WD blue Sn580 for $65 or Samsung 990 pro for $90, both 1TB, I'll just be playing games

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Why is AMD driver so bad?

Why is it so hard to find TBW stats on the MX500/870 Evo 500GB? They all claim a different lifespan.

>>101131663
Only for paypigs who buy it on release, waitchads get price drops and updated drivers. You have to be fucking mental to buy AMD cards on release, if you have that kind of money just suck it up and pay the Nvidia tax already, otherwise you're just a beta tester for us waitbros who get the card later at the bargain bin.

>>101131663
>Gayshit troonpact

>>101131649
there's isn't a big difference in load times between any nvmes. youll only see a big difference if you go from hdd to nvme. save yourself some money and use that to buy some games

>>101131681
Go with the lower TBW, prepare for the worst.

>>101131624
why is happy? her skirt is being blown up

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>>101131681
they may have changed the nand chips, i would trust the newest specsheet. an old-ass one i have saved on my pc claims 180tbw for the 500gb mx500.

>>101131663
I didn't play far enough, is there a reason for Arlecchino's "glitching" idle?

>>101131624
>AVOID: Dark Rock Pro 4/5, Noctua
why?
i always had a soft spot for be quiet!

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>>101131541
I think you may be right honestly. I run linux anyway but ehhh.
>>101131611
Fuck.
>>101131614
Ok.
>>101131622
I want fat VRAM so 3060 is not an option desu. How much do used 3090's run now though? I'm talking in canadian funny money. If it's comparable to the 4060 Ti then I'll take it in a heartbeat cause that 24 GB vram looks awesome. Fuck I hate ebay auctions though.
>>101131779
True that it's not graphically intensive. I disagree about 'painfully outdated' stuff though. The game is aesthetically pleasing, that's all a game has to be for me. I don't even play AAA's anymore anyway.

>>101131778
[spoiler]Her fire power corrupts reality around her (Character Story 4)[/spoiler]

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>>101131846
Dark Rock coolers are fine for Intel CPUs.
be Quiet decided not to invest in developing & providing offset brackets to better cool Ryzen CCDs.
>Then why is Scythe Fuma 3 recommended
Because it's specifically recommended for smaller/tighter form factor compatibility. Plus it's cheaper.
The Mugen 6 dual fan (black) edition superseded the Fuma 3's performance with similar dimensions.

>>101131752
I believe the 180 TBW figure because I have around 110 written for my old MX500 here I believe and it's got around 30% left. Most of that is from pagefile/hiberfil/chromium cache.

Are 5.25" SATA USB expansion hubs a thing at all? I'd really like to populate the remaining 5.25" bay in my case with something useful, but I've already used the remaining USB header on this motherboard for a 3.5" SD card reader. And I could really use more USB ports for stuff like peripherals and wireless receivers (unless I'm better off just getting an expansion card of some kind here on my old ass FM2ish system).

>>101131909
what would u suggest for AM4 platform, 5700X3D?

>>101131752
>700 TBW on the 2TB drive
Holy shit, that's about as good as an HDD I imagine. Wondering if people would be better off spending the $170-$200 on these higher capacity SATA SSDs instead.

>>101132048
What is your current AM4 CPU? If the cost makes sense for you, sure.
I wouldn't get it if you already have something like a 5600.

Don't worry about CPU temps if you already have a Dark Rock cooler, it will just run louder & hotter (with boost throttling thermal protection) under high CPU loads.

>>101131873
>How much do used 3090's run now though? I'm talking in canadian funny money.
im not gonna search it for you. but performance in languiage models is proportional to memory bandwidth. 4060ti has 288, 3090/4090 have around 1000GB/s

>>101131624
>AVOID: 4000D airflow
What's wrong with it? I was about to get that case.

>>101132109
well im getting 5700X3D new week and my 2018 cooler master AIO... i just dont trust it anymore
it does it job for the old 2600 but its 6 years old
i follow the principle of - if you can afford expensive piece of tech, take good care of it

>>101132069
HDD don't really have TBW in the SSD sense.

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>TGoG quit jewtube
>Techonomics now DOA with only NAAF left
>All there is left is the fat vaping irish neet man
>It's over

>>101132177
Mostly the top panel not supporting a 360mm radiator and it only ships with 2x preinstalled fans.
Lian Li Lancool 216 or Phanteks XT Pro (Ultra) are better alternatives.
The XT Pro will require an additional fan purchase, but it's still cheaper than the 4000D airflow assuming you buy a P12 5 pack.

4000D has no business being a +$90 case anymore.

>>101132192
You don't need a better cooler than a $35 Peerless Assassin for the 5700X3D.
Either that or the Mugen 6 dual fan would be my air cooler option.
Use an AIO if that's your personal preference.

>>101132212
Was more thinking of "how many TBs am I expected to write in an HDD's lifetime" and I'd say around that much would fit the bill.
>>101132233
NAAF's been bedridden and hospitalized a bunch lately, though Techonomics might make a return now that his health is improving. What people should be really missing right now is the fact that Adored and Chris are missing.

>>101131429
I just told my guy to pick one of these from most expensive to least expensive. I'm certain the cheapest 850w Vertex GX will do a fine job with a 3070 and I forgot what else he got scammed on by an obese redditor. No room for upgrades, but by the time this dude upgrades the new Nvidia GPUs will require 1500w PSUs.

Asus ROG Strix 1000w/850w
Seasonic Vertex GX 1000w/850w

Why the fuck are PCI/E expansion cards so expensive? They quickly add up to the cost of a low-end PCU or motherboard if you want stuff like lots of USB ports or some other specific I/O.

>>101132397
Where are you sourcing your card and what the fuck kind of exotic ports are you using. An x1 to 4 USB3 ports card is like $2-4 on Aliexpress. Are you using Firewire or old SCSI?

>>101132487
I bought my Digitus ds-30201-s over on Allegro for around $30 since the price was pretty much the same everywhere I looked a while back when digitizing a lot of old cassette tapes. I've been looking at some x1 USB 3X expansion cards with 4-6 ports and they seem to hover around the $20-$35 range which just makes no sense to me considering stuff like ODD/FDD/card readers even with shipping are like $5 at most. Ironically the chinkshit listings which have flooded the site in recent years are the more expensive ones with shipping taken into account more often than not.

>>101132145
Thanks, I think that's sealed it for me basically. I'll get a used 3090. Looks like the best value for what I want.

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Be honest, did any of you actually use the regular PCI expansion slots after the mid 2000s? I still see these included on motherboards from the mid 2010s when they could have been served much better by having additional PCIE expansion slots. So even if you get a full ATX motherboard you'll still have only around 2 full PCIE slots, three x1 or x4 slots, and then two more PCI slots instead of 7 PCIE slots.

>>101132177
> What's wrong with it?
It's Corsair. Always avoid Corsair.

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>>101132487
This shit goes for like $40 where I am.

If I want to install linux (endevouros) do I really need to get an amd card or not? I I have my old gtx 1070 that sitll holds up and I was thinking of upgrading everything els.

>>101131663
Bad? If they don’t bother optimizing for that tranime game they are actually based.

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what the hell is this thing

>>101132699
M.2 to 10/20/40gbps usb? blame mobo manufactures for stealing lanes from normal PCIe for nvme drives

>>101132603
Get the 3090Ti if you can. You need to set an undervolt, power limit, and maximum frame limit on regular 3090s to protect it from randomly dying (inadequate overcurrent protection allowing current spikes to destroy fuses & DrMOS IC).
Not fearmongering, someone in this thread had their 3090 AORUS randomly die recently and replaced it with a 4090.
The guy wasn't even playing demanding modern games.
>>100973294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq4ZHNldvGI

Does it matter which m.2 slot I use on my motherboard? There's 1 in an awkward position right above the GPU and 2 others further down which are easier to access.

>>101132771
yes, manual should have diagram, you want to use slot connecting directly to cpu instead of running though chipset

>>101132771
yes it does, since often they are different gens/speeds. read the mobo manual pls

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>>101132777
>>101132858
Apparently the top and middle ones are connected to the CPU while the bottom is a chipset one, so using the middle one should be fine as I'm too lazy to remove the GPU.

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What temp difference would I be looking at going from my current Arctic Freezer 34 Duo to a Phantom Spirit or a Frozen Notte/Liquid Freezer AIO?

CPU is a 5800x3d, main concern is silence for me so if I could lower them it'd be nice.
The Freezer 34 I'm using is from my old 3700X build, it holds temps fine (with CO -30) but I feel like it could be better.

When will second hand sellers finally acknowledge that their FX systems and parts are not worth the asking price when AM4 parts and LGA 2011 shit is cheap?

>>101132969
just sold a 1080ti for 200€, buyers are as clueless as sellers regarding prices

>>101132969
Wait what exactly are they asking for FX chips, isn't that the kind of shit you get for pocket change on a yard sale?

>>101132969
lmao never
have you ever tried to buy a used car?
ppl are delusional about what their crap is worth but >>101132999 is also true so it will never change

>>101132969
let me guess, top tier system by retarded nouveau riche who wanted to "futureproof"?

>>101132939
I've got a liquid freezer II 280 bolted to a 5800x3d running a -30 offset (via co) and it is inaudible to me basically all the time. A sustained 100% load might get the fans to be audible (and even then, that is just the default fan curve on my mobo - if I use the silent option or hand tune the curve i'd never hear it). I do have my pc under my desk and I use open back headphones a lot.

In fact the two noctua NF-P12's (non-pwm) make more noise than the 140mm fans the liquid freezer ships with because they 140mm fans simply never spin up because the chip just doesn't draw enough juice to heat up.

>>101133076
What do your temps look like in say Prime95 or OCCT?

Even at -30 I'm looking at close to 90°, ideally I'd like to be able to push some more VSOC voltage and try running IF at 1900Mhz to get a slight performance edge.

>>101132939
If you're just gaming you should be able to get your current CPU cooler to be quieter than your card fairly easily. Tune your fan curve to keep it under 1300RPM or so. A larger cooler would let you set that even lower but the card will be the noisiest component in most games - the GPU sitting at 90%+ while the CPU is plodding along. Of course if you have a nice beefy GPU cooler as well then a larger CPU heatsink would be warranted for max silence.

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>>101131624
I am currently using an AM4 build with a Ryzen 5 2600 and a GTX 1060. I want to upgrade to an AM5 build. Since I am from Russia, everything is limited. Here are the components I plan to use:

Ryzen 5 7500F
RTX 3060 TI
ASRock B650M-HDV
ADATA XPG LANCER DDR5 16GB (2x8GB) 5200MHz
WD SN770 1TB
Fractal Design Ion+ 750W
Cheap mini tower case
Is there anything I need to change? Can I overclock the RAM to 6000MHz? Should I get a heat sink fan (HSF) as well?

>>101133258
>Since I am from Russia, everything is limited
Looks fine. Just take what you can get. What's your other options.

>>101133258
Update your bios and upgrade to a 5700X3D instead, use the rest of the money for a better GPU.

>>101133037
The 990FX, A88X and FX-8300 sellers are the worst offenders here.

>>101132969
I wouldn't even buy a CPU + Motherboard + RAM combo for AM3+ or FM2+ for anything more than $50 to be honest.

>SIs are destroying their Deepcool Inventory
>Others are refusing to pay for DC inventory being shipped to them
>Delisted from all US stores amazon newegg etc

So that's it? They're fucked you can't even buy them any more. JUST GONE

Does the T600 have a hardware encoder? I'm tired of all these single-slot GPUs skipping out on basic shit like hardware encoding, which is why I refuse to buy the RX 6400 (which has no encoder versus the RX 550 much like the 6500 XT).

>>101133258
>everything is limited
do they not let you buy or do they not let you ship? you can use shopinbit to buy stuff with crypto if payment is the problem

>>101133354
Why the fuck would they be "destroying" their inventory
Are they just going around to warehouses with deepcool coolers fans and cases and just taking a hammer to them or melting them down or what?
That sounds so stupid and wasteful

>>101133258
>AM4 build with a Ryzen 5 2600
You could replace that with a 150€ 5700x3D without buying a whole new motherboard and all, you can order one of those on AliExpress which I'm pretty sure Russia has access to even now.

If your current PSU is above 600W, you can buy any GPU up to the 4070 Ti Super and your PC will run just fine.
Going to AM5 is only worth it if you at least get a 7800X3D imo, the 5700X3D/5800X3D both outperform the majority of the AM5 non-X3D lineup in gaming.

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>>101133354
Jewish retailers are still selling their remaining DeepCool products, not a joke (Adorama, B&H).
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu-cooler/#m=225&sort=price&page=1

As time goes by all the 40 series cards have sold and sold well

why is it always like this

>>101133542
Isn't deepcool chinese company?

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>>101133564
What are you going to do? Buy Radeon or Intel Arc?
At least the 4070 Ti 12GB and $1200 4080 had to be discontinued.

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>>101133589
You buy 16g 6800 for 300$ and wait for series after rdna 4.

WE NEED NEW GPUS
NVIDIA 50 SERIES
AMD RDNA4
INTEL BATTLEMAGE

WHERE ARE THEY

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>>101133576
Yes, US retailers & system builders who have DeepCool products on their shelves & warehouses were supposed to get rid of them.
The stores founded by Jewish families are still trying to sell the DeepCool products because they don't want to write them off as a loss.

>>101133631
September probs

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Summing up all the vendors they have released over 1000 variants of the 40-series. They are releasing 4090s with AIO Displays. Enough is enough. It is time for a new generation.

>>101133633
do they literally have some sort of israel war exemption or something. Seriously how is this possible

>>101133633
I mean, the way Chinese companies work, they will just change branding, legal structure and keep operating. This ban is nothingburger.

>>101133285
>>101133290
>>101133463
>>101133516
thx, so stay in AM4 ? my motherboard is trash
its B450M Steel Legend

>>101133693
Isn't it funny, if they would be true to justice they would also ban shintel products because of muh war oh wait killing palestinians is kosher.

>>101133354
>DeepKek

current specs

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B450M PRO4 AM4
>RAM
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 3600 MHz
>GPU
EVGA GTX 960
>PSU
Thermaltake TR2-600W

looking to upgrade GPU, should I buy a RTX 4060 Ti 8GB or is there a better option for the same or lower price? I game very seldomly and photo edit a lot

>>101133712
>B450M Steel Legend
Not trash, maybe uninspiring.
ASRock is the direct-to-customer subsidiary of a larger OEM (Pegatron).
They sell reliable, often boring, products.

>>101133704
Yeah, just watch in next few months a brand new cooler company named Deep Heatsink roll up to the stage. Might even be registered in Singapore instead of China. Nothing new under the sun.

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>>101133133
This is after a few mins of prime95.

>>101133753
These new entities still need US retailer's cooperation to gain access to US customers, very unlikely to happen.
The retailer's margins on DeepCool products are too low to bother cooperating in their scheme.

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>Paid 75$
>Can run helldivers
I'm broke

>>101133808
just stop being poor

>>101133808
One should never feel ashamed of actual diy jury-rigging efforts.

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>>101133631
RVTRN TO SINGLE SLOPT GPUS
MAKE SINGLE SLOT GPUS GREAT AGAIN
WHERE ARE THE SINGLE SLOT GPUS

>>101133831
https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-launches-radeon-rx-6400-low-profile-gpu

Finally got an oled monitor today. It's great already, can't wait to see how it looks in the dark tonight. My setup is now complete

>>101133831
>RVTRN TO SINGLE SLOPT GPUS
just but an A6000 bro that'll be $5000 plus tip

>>101133855
Which one?

>>101133846
>RX 6400
how disgusting

ok frens
bearing in mind dlss shittery might keep the gpu relevant for longer, why should I get the 7900 gre over the 4070 super?
(besides the retarded power consumption, fuck you amd)

Put together this setup that should last a while:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Kg7pTY

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30
Storage: 2x Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME
Video Card: Palit GameRock GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W

>>101133944
You shouldn't

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>>101133831
>blower
never enjoyed the loud sound it makes

>>101132378
>NAAF's been bedridden and hospitalized a bunch lately
ACK
>though Techonomics might make a return now that his health is improving
it's over, nobody needs to see his shit mic vaping obese irish ass, after his amd shilling days, it's now over, it was a good run
>Adored
scottish amd cuck MIA, good
>Chris
demoralized after fighting the amdrones, he gave up
>>101132969
second hand sellers are not human, simple as

>>101133712
>my motherboard is trash
perfectly fine, just find out the procedure for updating your BIOS with X3D chips compatbility (tons of tutorials) and you'll be fine

>>101133990
I know it's fine but I'll never get why cheaping out on the cooler instead of getting an AIO considering the prices of the Thermalright/Arctic ones
nice build overall but I'd swap for a PNY XLR8 4090 or something like that just for the noise efficiency

>>101133829
Hat to solder the gpu (1080ti)and mobo myself because it was given away for free lmao

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>>101133776
I've been running it for a while and temps haven't moved and neither have clocks really.

>putting anike tiddies in your computer

>>101133808
haha looks fantastic anon, had something similar set up a couple years ago

>>101134110
For something funny, try compressing CUE or ISO to CHD. Never failed to take my 5800X3D into the high 80s even when Prime95 fails.

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>>101134151
>why yes, i do put anime tiddies in my pc

I don't know much about coolers. Can a dual tower with 6 heat pipes and aluminum heat sink fully handle a processor from 2022? Namely a Ryzen 7 5700X?
I really have no idea how to check something like this

>>101134239
A 5700x isn't a very thirsty cpu (remember the basic rule - energy in = heat out) so a dual tower will keep it under tjmax in a typical atx setup.

>>101134239
My 5700X (admittedly with PBO off) sits at like 55C in cinebench with a basic Hyper 212 black. Any dual tower will be mooore than enough

>>101134239
general rule is that a dual tower 140mm cooler can cool a cpu drawing 170watt to 80 degree. you can even cool a 14900k as long as you don't do any overclocking

>>101134260
>A 5700x isn't a very thirsty cpu
True but truth be told I can't find info on cooler release date so I don't know how old this one is compared to the CPU to see if it should handle its thirst.
>(remember the basic rule - energy in = heat out)
Well, the voltage of the CPU should be 65W. The power supply should be between 850W and 1000W. Not quite sure if you can deduct anything based on this info but if you can let me know.
>Basic ATX setup.
Well the motherboard is mATX apparently, didn't think this would really matter for the cooler, gonna use these with a GTX 1660S too.
The motherboard will be an Asus PRIME A520M-A II.

>>101134273
>>101134323
Interesting, I will be using it to play some more modern games on it now. A friend told me to watch out about the cooler because some CPUs can be a struggle, but I will take your guys word for it then.

>>101134394
>>101134323
Oh and I forgot to add, the cooler is 120mm, not 140. Let me know if that can be an issue.

>>101131624
Is a Ryzen 5 5600 enough to not cause a bottleneck with a RTX 4070 Super?

>>101134069
>scottish amd cuck
You're retarded, he's literally spent years calling out AMD's bullshit.

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>>101131624
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LLJg6D

How is this build? Don't really know what I'm doing with some of these parts like cooler or case. Budget is around 2000-2500.

>>101132378
>Chris
Who?

>>101133354
>one of the most up and coming company
>cleaning up their act, building shit loads of new factories
>dropping cheap as fuck banger products
>clearly new behemoth in the rising
>bunch of techtubers visiting, and giga shilling (der8auer, GN) etc
>suddenly struck down mid ascend
Who was it?

>>101135062
>Who was it?
thermalright

Feedback on this build please. I’m making it for gaming and video editing/3D animation. I’m mostly thinking of what I could do to make it cheaper without sacrificing performance.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nHTrkJ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($151.34 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($191.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($132.51 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($1009.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2054.69

>>101134890
What are you going to use it for?

>>101135292
Programming, running servers and some gayming.
I just want a high-end PC.

>>101133938
Asus XG27AQDMG
I'm unfortunately stuck with only being able to use a 27" for the next few months due to my living situation, it's not what I would've chose if I had better options for space
I might end up returning it, I have 15 days, I'm not sure yet. I'll probably grow too attached to it and not be able to go back to IPS for the next few months
I haven't used any other oleds as a comparison but it looks amazing even in a bright room, can't wait to try it at night tonight

Anyone know how to properly calibrate an oled? Should I just try to steal some fags settings? This XG27AQDMG has been out for about a month, would it be a bad idea to take settings for the matte version of this panel?
Man I'm excited for some vidya tonight on this thing. Gonna play elden ring until I get pissed off again then SMT V V

>4080 Super
>7800x3d
>1080p screen
>Cap my games to 60 fps so my PC runs quiet
Am I smart or retarded?

>>101135513
Retarded and gay
Give your nice specs to somebody who is not a dumb thirdie. Whites do not even like their desktop usage at 60fps.

>>101135471
If it is just for vidya then these oled monitors are pretty accurate out of the box but yes, you could just use someone else's config for a little bit more accuracy (assuming they are calibrating it correctly) but there is always panel-to-panel variance.

>>101135338
Looking good then. Any changes I'd make would be minor optimizations or matters of taste. Let me know if you'd like to hear them.

>>101135581
Sure, I'd like to hear them.

>>101135606
No problem.

>Cooler
I'd want an AIO for a 14700K that's going to hit 100% load regularly. Mainly for noise but it'll maintain slightly higher boost clocks too.
Your case can fit a 360mm up front which is what I'd recommend if you're wedded to that model. Speaking of which:

>Case
The 4000D is suboptimal for high-end cooling. Limited to 240mm on top and requires a "tubes up" orientation for front mounting. Doing so isn't the end of the world but there's better options out there now if you're not wedded to the aesthetics. I'd suggest the Meshify 2 if you need filtration or the Lancool 216 if not. Also the Air 903 if you need to cut budget.

>RAM
Might want 64GB if you're running multiple VMs.

>PSU
It's good but buying an ATX2 unit for a high-end build is odd. There's 1kW ATX3 units for about the same money eg. Focus GX ATX3 @ $139.

Thoughts on NVMEs? Is it just better than a regular sata SSD?

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>>101135128
That ASRock board got price hiked due to its popularity, it's no longer the budget choice.
There are cheaper B650(M) boards that are worth buying now. >>101125028
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jN3gXL/asrock-b650-pg-lightning-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-pg-lightning
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PskH99/gigabyte-b650m-k-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-k
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mkqrxr/gigabyte-b650m-d3hp-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-d3hp

This be Quiet Pure Power 12M 850W unit just as good, with native 12VHPWR port & cable supplied.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XsV3C/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505

>>101135768
You don't have to replace the SATA SSDs you already own, but I'd buy NVMe drives if your board has the M.2 slots for them.

>>101135757
Thanks, I'll do some more research tomorrow about what you said since it's getting late.

>>101135882
You're welcome. Do bear in mind that they were all basically nitpicks - that last 5%.

>>101135513
Cap at 60 if you stream them, otherwise just vsync and cap fps at monitor refresh. Some good closed back headphones eliminate any need to worry about sound pollution.

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How do you deal with expansion card brackets that can't get a grip? Duct tape? Bigger screws? No amount of screwing will secure this one in place.

>>101135973
Unless the bracket is actually warped to fuck that card isn't inserted correctly to have that much of a gap.

should I buy PC now or wait? I got 7k budget

>>101136021
i think you should at least wait to see what new gen cpu / gpu have to offer that's coming later this year. t. 6th gen i5 connoisseur

>>101136021
Just keep waiting®. You can afford to pay full/premium price on the latest hardware.
New Ryzen CPUs in July & New Intel Core Ultra CPUs in September.
The Intel CPU might deliver underwhelming performance, but the memory controller is going to be dedicated for DDR5 for the first time.
Spend the bulk of that budget on the RTX 5090.

Maybe buy a high-end NVMe drive while you're waiting if they're decently discounted.
The more you save on boring parts, the more you can spend on expensive new hardware.

>>101135973
a nut from the other side?
a washer inbetween?

>>101136070
my motherboard doesn't support nvmes

How do you deal with the 12vhpwr adapter in a narrow case?
I have a Phanteks P400A and I simply can't put the glass panel back on because it bends the connector just enough for one of the contacts to stop working, hence black screen on boot.

In the year of our lord 2024.
What processor is best for CPU mining on the side?

>>101136021
Buy parts on sale as you see fit going for one good deal after another.

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>>101136110
>How do you deal with the 12vhpwr adapter in a narrow case?
You pray.

>>101136126
7950x and 5950x are pretty good for certain types of CPU mining

>>101135973
i would use ziptie. no point overthinking

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any tips?

go for 1000w psu?

4k editing, vr and gaming.

yes I have a case and more HDDs

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>>101136010
The issue here seems to be either the hole is too big or the screw cannot be tightened enough, the bracket just likes to slip out. Maybe tape will be enough here.

>>101136222
Or just stick a washer on it.

>>101136021
Don't spend it all on the PC - diminishing returns. I'd personally allocate $3k for the computer, $1k for monitor, $2k for audio, and $1k for furniture. If you've already got decent stuff in the other categories then you can roll it in to the PC budget or stick it in your IRA.

>>101136183
Gee anon, twenty cores?

>>101136222
Washer.

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>>101136110
Get a 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 cable with a 90° bend on the GPU side of the connector, one that is compatible with your PSU.
You need to be mindful of the 90° connector's orientation.
The Seasonic one in the image requires the cable to go over the top of the video card unless it's an ASUS model.
https://store.cablemod.com/product-category/cablemod-basics/cb-12vhpwr/
CableMod's 90° cables are fine, it's the adapter they've had to recall. 2x 8-pin to 12VHPWR cable is also fine.

>>101136269
Twelve of them are estrogen cores

>>101136104
Christ anon upgrade your shit what the fuck are you doing

>>101136183
Try moving out of the pajeet infested shithole you live in

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>>101136476
He's waitchadding for better boards.

>>101136400
>estrogen cores
lol

>>101136252
>>101136293
This should be ideal, whether it is rubber or metal.

>>101136269
?

>>101136512
I live in forest hill its all white

>>101135840
Seems like I would at most save $50 on the motherboard if I switch. Should I just go for a 1000W psu at the same price?

>>101133354
>tfw bought an AK620 digital a few weeks ago
>saving for a 7800x3d, buying in a week or two
>my options were to buy ddr5 ram, new PSU and cooler or the 7800x3d
Seems like I chose right kek. Got my cooler before this shit dropped

How do you research on which parts to chose?

>>101136706
The Lighting board is similarly priced as the HDV due to a time-limited discount (expires in 9 hrs).
Wattage for CPU & GPU is only going up so getting a 1000W PSU isn't a bad idea if you plan to get more power-hungry processors in the future.
850W is fine if you don't see yourself buying a video card that draws over 450W.

>>101136748
say a budget, resolution, intended use case and someone will provide a list of parts to buy

What are some motherboards similar to the EVGA Classified SR-2? I want a motherboard with a shitton of PCIE slots/connectivity and bandwidth, don't care if it's 15 years old.

>>101136785
What’s the advantage to the lightning board? Only thing I’m seeing is bigger memory limit which I will likely never use.

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>>101131624
>budget
$1000 excluding monitor
open for monitor suggestions too
>country
australia
>use-cases
he browses web, watches netflix, thinking of getting him a comfy 2k/4k @ 27/32" screen
any good pre-built sites? looking for a computer for my dad, don't feel like organising shipping/couriers through my week

what specs do i go for to make sure this lasts several years?

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>>101136826
WRX90E-SAGE

>>101136786
yes but what if you have multiple options? Like for example motherboards, how do you chose a motherboard if there are multiple options within same budget, usage, size etc. Where multiple motherboards perform the intended use then how would you decide which to pick

>>101136922
generally define the features you want, check what are the cheapest options and check if reviews or list makers say something bad about it

>>101136748
Hardware Unboxed's motherboard compilation shows the ones with weaker power delivery components that end up performance-throttling higher-end CPUs.

Memory chips are made by three major manufacturers (Micron, Samsung, SK Hynix), SK Hynix makes the more performant DDR5 chips so far (A/M dies).
6000MT/s CL30 or 6400MT/s CL34 and kits that have an XMP/EXPO profile with over 7000MT/s speeds are all made by Hynix.
The brand that assembles the chips isn't that important, TweakTown has decent memory reviews if you're concerned with it.
Micron and SK Hynix have their in-house memory brand. Crucial for Micron and Essencore/Klevv for SK Hynix.

For video cards, just try to find information regarding the cooling capacity and power limits of the card.
Budget permitting, you want to buy a card with high power limits and that runs relatively cool & quiet.
There are differences in VRM components but it's applicable for XOCing.
All major GPU designers (NVIDIA, AMD, & Intel) share the minimum component requirements for card manufacturers, this is commonly called reference design or reference cards.
Basically, card manufacturers will lose their GPU partnership if they decide to use components that fail to meet the GPU designer's minimum standards.
TechPowerUp performs teardowns for component analysis and posts temperature & noise tables of their review sample.

TomsHardware, TweakTown, & TechPowerUp have good SSD reviews.

PSU reviews, check Hardware Busters.

Case fans, listen to noise sample recordings and check performance graphs on YouTube.
HWcooling.net provides in-depth case fan reviews.

PC cases, check reviews in YouTube.

>>101136844
More power phases for the CPU, one extra M.2 slot (Gen4x2), and more USB ports.

are people being stupid or am i missing something

i currently have an arctic p12 argb which claims
>Airflow: 48.80 cfm | 82.91 m3/h
>Static Pressure: 1.85 mmH2O
>Noise Level: 0.3 Sone
at 2000 rpm

cooler master sickleflow 120 claims
>Fan Noise Level 8 - 27 dBA
>Fan Air Pressure 2.5 mmH2O ± 10%
>Fan Airflow 62 CFM ± 10%
at 1800 rpm

Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM chromax.black.swap which generally gets a lot of praise is expensive but i might be able to get it on the secondary market. it claims
>Airflow 102,1 m3/h
>Acoustical noise 22,6 dB(A)
>Static pressure 2,34 mm H2O
at 2000 rpm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1enkixRhok

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM only costs $15 in my country, same as cooler master sickleflow
>Airflow 120,2 m3/h
>Acoustical noise 25,1 dB(A)
>Static pressure 2,83 mm H2O
at 1700 rpm
>It's okay, but for the money, there are better options these days. You would probably be better off with something like a Coolermaster Sickleflow or Arctic P12.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj4vrZLI128

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM has significantly more airflow and static pressure at full speed which is what i want for better cooling capacity, and it seems that you could easily run it a bit slower at 1500-1600 rpm for similar cooling performance and noise level as the other fans, yet people say it's not a great fan, because they look at noise at a given rpm fan speed even though the airflow and static pressure is different for the same rpm?

>>101136635
>?
>He doesn't know
Never mind anon...

>>101136748
I come here pick a part at random and then argue like it's the best part until I am convinced otherwise

>>101137107
based 4060ti believer

>>101137016
The P12 Redux @ 1500RPM in that video already sounds too loud to listen to every day.
If you're okay with that sound quality no one's going to stop you from buying them.
https://noctua.at/en/nf-a12x25-performance-comparison-to-nf-f12-and-nf-s12a

>>101137107
you will feel right at home with the linux community then I guess.

>>101135513
Do you have G-Sync at least?

>>101137124
the video is exaggerated, it's not worse than the NF-A12 at 2000+ rpm
it can't be worse at 1500 rpm than arctic p12 argb at 2000 rpm

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>Sound Blaster Audigy FX
does anyone even buy these
are they even any good

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>>101137165
NF-A12x25 sounds roughly half as loud @ 1500 RPM.
https://youtu.be/X1enkixRhok?t=67

>it's not worse than the NF-A12 at 2000+ rpm
>it can't be worse at 1500 rpm than arctic p12 argb at 2000 rpm
These noise-optimized fans have an operating sweet spot (600~1200RPM).
If you're planning to run these fans well over 50% of their max RPM, just get something cheap.
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/noctua-nf-a12x25-pwm-the-most-fine-tuned-fan-of-its-kind/

>>101137208
holy shit, kill yourself

Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM chromax.black.swap which generally gets a lot of praise is expensive but i might be able to get it on the secondary market. it claims
>Airflow 102,1 m3/h
>Static pressure 2,34 mm H2O
at 2000 rpm

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM only costs $15 in my country, same as cooler master sickleflow
>Airflow 120,2 m3/h
>Static pressure 2,83 mm H2O
at 1700 rpm

P12 redux claims significantly more airflow and static pressure even though the rpm is lower, A12 chromax at 1500 rpm won't come close

>>101137237
Hey you fucking retard, you don't buy expensive noise-optimized fans to run them at max RPM every day because they will run annoyingly loud.
Just buy the IPPC fans if you want to go full-retard RPM.

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>>101136880
Something like this:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KFjBKX
I also googled the main prebuilt stores in Koala Land and all the prebuilts they have under 1000 Kangaroo Bux have 4-5 generations old CPUs with 6-8 cores at best.

>>101137271
50% fan speed might be great for typical loads (not extreme stress testing), maybe equivalent to arctic p12 argb at 75%, but you're not comparing apples to apples with A12 chromax at 50% fan speed vs P12 redux at 50% fan speed

>>101131748
Why do you think women wear skimpy clothes?

>>101136880
>>101137307
Also for a display, a nice 27" 4K IPS will probably fulfill all his needs (32" would look blurrier from worse pixel density):
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/4xkWGX/lg-27up600-w-270-3840x2160-60-hz-monitor-27up600-w

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>>101137320
The old as fuck P-12 Redux @ 100% RPM can't even beat the A12x25 installed on the U12A's heatsink.
Testing was done by an aerospace engineer so he knows a thing or two about aerodynamics than you do.
Static pressure & airflow performance gains with higher RPM aren't linear as well.
Go ahead and buy those loud & old as fuck fans though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kkZAdqtZsE

>>101137172
Was thinking about getting one of these for use with my old-ass motherboards where I reckon the onboard audio sucks. Unless I'm just better off going for the Sound Blaster Z SE since it has Windows 7 drivers unlike the Audigy.

>>101137373
A12 is from 2018 too. probably very overrated for the price.

>>101137349
Because they're retarded hedonistic egomaniacs and like to show off for no reason?

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>>101137320
Look where that P12 Redux lands in noise-normalized testing, it's one of the worst fans he's reviewed.
>'It's not that loud! The testing's exaggerated!'
Absolute tool.

>>101137383
Yet no one else has come up with a better-sounding 120mm fan since 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA_WxvTbTeA

Obviously don't buy the A12x25 if you don't value that level of operating sound.

I currently have an AMD R7-1800X paired with an Asus ROG Crosshair X370 motherboard and a Radeon R9-580 GPU. I was looking to upgrade to a newer GPU. Would I get by just getting a 5800X3D or should I be considering a 7800X3D, new board, new RAM, etc? The 5800X3D is still $320 right now which is only $50 less than the new 7800X3D.

Would I have any issues with the 5800X3D in my current motherboard?

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Which one are you buying anon?

>>101137398
he's probably using a dense tower cooler, that's not what i'm doing, zalman cnps9900max has less obstructive copper fins with plenty of spacing between the fan and the fins, i also want a case fan for pure airflow

>>101137396
There are reasons but yes

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>>101137432
No, waiting for Arrow Lake (also the 9800X3D should launch in October).
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200-lunar-lake-set-to-launch-in-september-arrow-lake-for-desktops-in-october

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>>101137434
> i also want a case fan for pure airflow
P12 Redux is clearly disqualified for that as well.
That piece of crap isn't better than the A12x25 in any real use case.

>>101137492
noctua claims 120,2 m3/h so you're saying they're frauding? trusting some dunning kruger amerifat youtuber over le hitler autist engineers?

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>>101137467
>waiting for Arrow Lake

Sorry, I don't consider Tel Aviv gloware as CPU.

>>101137172
i have audio interface for knob volume control

>>101137508
Find a third-party source that replicated those official figures dumb fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkfu0H_yJoo
he says it's great for the price

>>101137526
>for the price
That wasn't your argument
>P12 redux claims significantly more airflow and static pressure even though the rpm is lower, A12 chromax at 1500 rpm won't come close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7ia_FZcthQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dZ-ZqsTAjw
noctuafags mogged by poorfag arctic p12 lmao
especially arctic p12 argb has the updated connected blade design so it doesn't make weird sounds at specific speeds like the original arctic p12 pwm

>>101137591
No one here's recommending people to buy dogshit Noctua Redux fans.

>>101137591
>arctic p12 argb has the updated connected blade design so it doesn't make weird sounds at specific speeds
Wrong.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/99102818/#99106685
>Installed the other p12 max white onto my single tower aircooler. Fuck me it also grinds whenever it changes speeds, but in a slightly different annoying way to the first (I assume the fins are catching the vibes).
>Tried different control methods on the motherboard, both the system and cpu headers, no other fans I own do this shit.
>I like how quiet they are at static speeds compared to the Thermalright fan I have (max 1500rpm compared to 3300) but they don't sound healthy. Just pay an arm and a leg for Noctua next time I guess.

There's a reason why even Thermalright's making case fans using LCP, there's no way around it if they want to sell better fans.

>>101137625
my arctic p12 argb works fine lmao
no matter what fan you use the controller should ramp it up smoothly instead of going 0 to 100 in an instant

it shouldn't make a freaking grinding noise, maybe it's bad QC on those max fans with not enough lube in the bearings

>>101131624
how dumb would i be to sell my 4070 to get a 4070ti super?
want better VR performance, 5070 will only have 12gb of VRAM compared to the ti super getting 16.

should i just wait and see if 4080-90s drop in price, or see what the 5080 looks like?

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>ryzen 9 is only $10 more
Is there any reason not to get it over the 7?

>>101137432
Waiting for midrange to low end Arrow Lake. I also want to try it on Windows 7 and XP out of morbid curiosity.

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>>101137709
Arctic was telling their customers the ball-bearing noise emitted by their black P12 Max was working as intended.
People's replacement fans were sounding worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQDJBl32QZ0

It took an internet outrage to get them to use quieter FDB on the black 120mm Max.
That's their standard.

>>101137756
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQDJBl32QZ0
loool

>>101137740
It's worse in games.

>>101137740
You'll have to use something like Process Lasso to make sure each games' affinity are set to a run only on the CCD with V-Cache on it, otherwise you'll get lackluster performance:
https://old.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/1afnszu/how_to_get_the_most_out_of_your_7900x3d_or/

>>101137737
4070 Ti Super is not a big enough performance upgrade for VR gaming.
The RTX 5080 will make more sense, but rumors say its performance will be capped near the 4090D because it needs to pass the US government's tech sanctions against China.

>>101137307
how is a 12700K still $400

>>101137740
it's dual CCD with 6 cores with higher clocks and 6 cores with X3D instead of 8 cores with X3D. probably better in productivity but not gaming

>>101137830
Highly in demand by Kangaroos, it's converted to USD 266.

>>101137740
Still a bad buy if you are solely gaming.
If you have another use case that will put 24 threads to use, go for it.

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Am I being memed? This looks like a steal. I was already going to get this case + Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Amazon). Why shouldn’t I just get this bundle?

>>101135933
>>101136110
No side panel gang

4060ti or 7700xt?

>>101138148
That's a good deal.

bought a 2060S from a faggot with anime figurines inside the case, hopefully the card is in good shape right ? you twinks dont overclock your shit or anything am I right ? you are just a bunch of vanilla babybois that probably just play LoL or some gay game like that

>>101138408
they literally open their cases every day to touch those figs and masturbate to them

you got ripped off enjoy your card covered in anime cum and pubic hair you fucking retard

>>101136183
>go for 1000w psu?
Not strictly needed but I would in your budget range. Both 4080 and 14700k can have power spikes and both happening at the same time might bring an 850w psu to its knees. Again super likely, but not worth risking on your budget range.

I really like that hard drives aren't even a consideration when it comes to gaming rigs anymore
The meta used to be to have an SSD just for Windows and maybe your favorite game and a hard drive for everything else since SSDs were so insanely expensive. Even SATA SSDs are becoming less popular in favor of NVMe

>>101135513
Nah ignore retards. Silencemaxxing is much more comfy for gaming than chasing high fps with diminishing returns.

>>101138471
that was the case a decade ago
you're a bit late

>>101135513
You fucking retard you get expensive coolers if you want to silencemax
Noctua NH D15, maybe gen 2 depending on when you make your build, avoid water coolers because you might be able to hear the pump, Noctua fans, and a 1080p GPU with a high end cooler

>>101138471
HDDs simply can't keep up with asset streaming demands of modern games anymore. Reading speeds are too obsolete for large assets, without loooooong load times at least. Since devs stopped considering them during development, you will get a lot of stutter and texture pop-in if you try to force gaming from them.

>>101138501
That's why I said used to be

>>101138501
Yeah devs transitioned to ssds when consoles had them out of the box(PS4/Xbox One era).

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Help very much appreciated! After 9 years i finally wanna get a new pc and since i dont know a lot about this topic i need some advice for a complete build.

My budget is ~1000€. (I could probably squeeze out another 100€ if you say there are some parts where it is very important or makes sense, otherwise i would rather use it to maybe get a new monitor). Im from Germany and will probably simply end up putting in one of your suggested configurations into an online pc shop, let them build and ship it to me.

All i want to do with it is basically watch youtube, movies, twitch etc. and play games (For games i dont really care about ultra high settings more about performance and i just want to be able to play some games that came out the last few years like the Resident evil remakes, Red dead redemption 2 and maybe GTA 6 when it comes out).

Some requirements:
-Doesnt need flashy colorful lights or to look cool.
-I want normal Air cooling and not a water cooling system
-Preferably Nvidia graphics card (my old one was an AMD and it sometimes caused some annoying blackscreens and also i read everywhere that AMD in general causes more problems than nvidia)
Also i dont know anything about things like overclocking and buying new parts and adding them in the future so that is all completely irrelevant for me.

Im someone who barely ever changes anything if it its working alright so I just want another solid and reliable PC which i can use for atleast the next 5 years. Thanks for any help!

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>>101138541
Since you insist on Nvidia, on your budget that is tough. But I managed to squeeze something for you with some compromises. Enjoy!
PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wdbRdH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€173.87 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€115.97 @ Galaxus)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€119.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€56.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card (€563.33 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€39.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 CM 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€48.89 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Total: €1118.85

>buy 4080 Super
>excited to play Cyberpunk with Path Tracing
>it kinda runs like shit on 1440p
>DLSS looks blurry as hell
>input lag is bad
what the hell. so you really do need a 4090 if you want to be graphics maxxing

>>101138738
Tbh its just because like i said my old AMD R9 380 caused a lot of blackscreend over the years and thats why i have such a negative thought of AMD. But im not familiar with how current graphic cards are so if there are solid and proven AMD ones i would also use them (or even other brands if there are, i only know nvidia and amd lol).

Also what i just thought of when i saw your config, it only has 1 hard drive right? Would it be better to get a seperate, smaller one for windows and another one for games/movies etc? Atleast thats what my old pc was like

Thanks for your help!

>>101138833
>Path Tracing
It's a glimpse of future tech, just like some of the overkill settings available in the original Crysis.
Path tracing takes down the RTX 4090 as well.

>>101138846
>Would it be better to get a seperate, smaller one for windows and another one for games/movies etc?
nta, drive partitioning takes care of that role (ex. 100~200GB for OS & productivity apps, rest for other uses).

>>101138875
Ahh okay. Didnt even know that was a thing

>>101138846
>Tbh its just because like i said my old AMD R9 380 caused a lot of blackscreend over the years and thats why i have such a negative thought of AMD. But im not familiar with how current graphic cards are so if there are solid and proven AMD ones i would also use them (or even other brands if there are, i only know nvidia and amd lol).
It improved a bit. Though AMD has substantially inferior feature set compared to Nvidia(ignore the coping replies). I would definitely buy 4070 super if you can comfortably get it in your budget. Though it is not the end of the world to buy RX 7800xt for a bit cheaper and 7700xt for even cheaper(a quarter less raw performance than 4070s, excluding lack of features)
>Also what i just thought of when i saw your config, it only has 1 hard drive right? Would it be better to get a seperate, smaller one for windows and another one for games/movies etc? Atleast thats what my old pc was like
We phased out of hard drives years ago. You only buy them if you need to dump archives, files, movies, etc. You don't use hard drive for gaming.
As for having two different drives some people still buy 1 good ssd for OS, and a more cheap and mediocre one for dumping games. Though this doesn't make sense in your budget. You have a one drive that does both.

>>101138940
https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000143677/how-to-create-or-modify-a-partition-in-microsoft-windows
You want to have at least 100~150GB reserved for OS and productivity-related apps & documents, minimum required space for W11 is 64GB.

>>101138833
I experienced cp path tracing with 3080 so you should be fine, you get frame gen on top.
nvidia reflex should help lag

Another game you should check out is alan wake 2. It looks pretty sweet with maxed rt

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Is this a solid deal from Microcenter? I currently have an i7-6700k and am just looking for a solid option to game

>>101139026
Seems so.

>>101138833
Lightmapping was invented back in 1996 by Carmack to create prebake raytraced lighting as a texture file without taxing the shit out of the graphic accelerator. Metro Exodus fixes the performance issue by throwing the traditional lightmapping technique into the trash and recreate the game from scratch.
For most AAA devs they just go "why not both?" and the performance goes to die.

>>101138956
I dont exactly know what you mean with lack of feautures (if you mean stuff like nvidia shadow for recording and apps like that i dont really use that sort of stuff so mainly care about performance) but i wrote those 2 other cheaper ones down for now. The problem is i probably cant just swap them out and the rest of the config stays the exact same because some other parts might not be compatible with them right?
Gotcha with the hard drive thing, really didnt know that lol.

Another thing tho, i was looking for usb ports and a cd thingy. This tower got 2 usb but no place to enter CDs correct? Is there a way to add that or would i need an entirely different one?

>>101138969
Thanks will look into that!

>>101131624
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fgFmt7

What are your thoughts on this build with the new fractal mood?
I like SFF PCs and the Fractal Mood looks like an Xbox
I would use either the lg ultragear or Alienware 4k oled monitors
I also want a PlayStation and Nintendo for physical copies of games
Also pcpartpicker says that gpu isnt compatible but on fractal designs site, the gpu’s dimensions are compatible with it

>>101131699
>calling east asian games gay and troons
>meanwhile western devs exist

>>101139026
>upgrading to am4
Ive seen microcenter 7800x3d bundles as low as $450. And you can then wait™ for zen 6 x3d.

I'm wanting to get a dual monitor setup for gamedev/art/text editing, so one horizontal monitor and one that can be flipped vertical. Can I just throw any monitor I like into a rotatable stand with an HDMI splitter box (this is the setup I'm familiar with from my last office job).

>>101137740
You can have best buy online pricematch to microcenter $320 7800x3d.

>>101139255
Whataboutism

Can I build a 1440p pc for 1.5k USD?
I don't need a monitor or a kbm, it would be my first ever desktop though, so a bit nervous about fucking it up.
I was told to just go get a prebuild from ibuypower or somewhere like that but that's probably a bad idea so I wanna try to build it myself

>>101139026
It's a solid upgrade from the 6700k but the 7800x3d is just way faster (22% in games, 40% elsewhere)

>>101139361
Sure. Even a 7800x3d, am5 with 32gb ddr 5 ram and 4070 super should fit in the budget

>>101139361
Easily, 4070 Super would be your most expensive component.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pvmNMV
You can get a cheaper board & a lower capacity storage drive to stay under the $1500 limit.

>>101139089
>I dont exactly know what you mean with lack of feautures(if you mean stuff like nvidia shadow for recording
No not exactly that. But probably not that important if you don't know about them anyway. You said you were fine with not running ultra so you might be fine with AMD limitations on stuff like RT and upscaling.
>the problem is i probably cant just swap them out and the rest of the config stays the exact same because some other parts might not be compatible with them right?
You can just swap them in actually. You can use pcpartpicker to change the build, it will show (most of the) potential conflicts and problems.
>usb ports
Your case and motherboard comes with enough.
>cd thingy
Do you seriously use CD/DVDs in 2024? Anyway, you are not going to find many modern cases with the space for that. If you actually need it one day, you can just buy an external USB DVD drive, around 30-50 euros or so I think?

Here's a question: Would AMD be better off with relaunching with a new GPU brand? I think them abandoning the FX/A Brand and making the Ryzen Brand name did wonders to show consumers that it's a new product and a competetive one, far removed from their old product (bulldozer).

If so, what would the new name be?

>>101138833
There are mods that'll have it run better

>>101139456
Their video cards need to fulfill advertised performance and have feature parity before brand issues are brought up.

>>101139456
amd wont be able to compete unless usa requires nvidia to open their software to other companies use to avoid a monopoly

>>101139456
Whatever it is, it needs to have a Z or an X in it
It also just needs to be a massive improvement, not slightly better performance with a complete name brand change. Ryzen also succeeded because of how amazing its price/perf and that is was actually competent, as opposed to bulldozer

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>>101139481
>avoid a monopoly
The discrete gaming GPU market is shrinking, and NVIDIA will argue they don't have a monopoly on mobile GPUs.
NVIDIA will also say the government shouldn't punish them for selling better, more in-demand products.
It's not like NVIDIA's dumping their GeForce cards below cost to maintain a grip on the market, they're maximizing margins per unit sold.

>>101139128
>14900
>No 360+mm AIO
Insanity.
>Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory
I am not super well-versed with Intel but there is some chance that expo won't work with that ram without manual OC.
>Windows 11 license
Use Mass Activation Script, or better Linux.
>Also pcpartpicker says that gpu isnt compatible but on fractal designs site, the gpu’s dimensions are compatible with it
I dunno man, even if it actually fits, you would need to bend cables more than I would be comfortable with high power draw 12VHPWR.
Recommendation: start from scratch

>>101139432
Oh yeah i dont really know about these kind of features. I always played games on lower settings anyways even if higher were possible just for better performance. Thats my main criterium.

I often use 3 usb ports which are on the front of my PC so i wasnt sure if it only had the 2 i saw. And yeah the CD slot i use extremely rarely but its just something i thought would be nice to have in general. But if there are external ones that you can just connect with USB then that totally works too.

Appreciate your help. I was hoping a few more people would suggest configs (i even waited for it to be middle of the night here so it would be evening in the US and increase the chance of replies lol). I wrote down all the stuff you said and your config for now and i will probably post another time in a couple of days. Thanks for your help!

>>101139532
The real grim reality is that GPUs will become tied in to the MIC soon as VR becomes more prevalent as a tool for military planning and local AI models start being implemented for visual/facial recognition and autonomous swarming behavior in military drones.

>>101139456
They need to unfuck their mess in the GPU division first, otherwise it's just dumb stunt.
Eitherway, they won't even bother though. All the money is on server GPUs and SOCs. They barely care about DIY gaymer nerd market anymore.
Let me put it this way: You are giving it more though than Lisa does.

Bought a refurbished legion T5.
what do I do to unshitify windows 11?

>>101139471
please share, I do enjoy the game but a little more performance in certain areas would be perfect

>>101139541
14900(non k) runs with less power so the included stock cooler is enough

Mass activation script?
How do i set up the cheap or free windows you guys can get

Start from scratch? Wdym?

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>>101139607
>what do I do to unshitify windows 11?
Install linux.
Serious answer. No cap. It was an absolute NIGHTMARE to fully unfuck Win 10 and virtually impossible to do so in Win 11. Lots of fake settings that do jack shit and get constantly reset anyway. Many useful registry tricks neutered or hidden behind the labyrinth. I gave up and went fully daily diving linux after decade+ of dual booting. I have been doing it for months and it had been great. It's time for any self-respecting non-NPC human to give up shitdows for good.

>>101139549
The only change I'd suggest from the other's build list is to spend a bit more on a be Quiet Pure Power 12 750W or 850W PSU and buy a better case.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/KLQcCJ/fractal-design-pop-air-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-poa1a-01
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/gWFbt6/fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-07
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yp9wrH/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn504
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/4XsV3C/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505
I know he cut costs to help you build a PC within your original budget.

>>101139621
https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/10490

>>101139656
I already dual boot mint on my current shitbox.
But I need windows for to play halo CE with my bro's that are 40years older than me

>>101139622
>14900(non k) runs with less power so the included stock cooler is enough
Admittedly I glossed over that part, probably enough for gaming then. But I would still but something like peerless assassin for multicore.
>Mass activation script?
Google and execute one basic command specified on the github.
>Start from scratch? Wdym?
Well it's up to you but I wouldn't personally buy that build due to previously mentioned reasons.

>>101139658
Thx got it noted and will look into it!

P12.

>>101139691
Only thing I can offer is that installing and MASing Pro version if you are not on it already. More control(or more aptly put, less lack of control). But as I said before, there is no proper unfucking of modern shitdows, it's a globohomo corporate abomination that actively hates its own users. It sucks but I, or anyone else for that matter, have no magic tricks to give to you.

>>101139290
bump

>>101139841
>>101139290
If the mounts are compatible yes. Should be standard VESA but doesn't hurt to check.

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Well shit, my new card has coil whine starting at just 140fps. Asscock Phantom Gaming 7900 XT.
Two questions:
1) Is this a particularly bad case? Most people online seem to report it only at over ~300fps.
2) Is there unit variance between cards of the same model? I have read conflicting info on this. Some people say it will be about the same across units of the same model, others say it's a lottery. I'm probably gonna send it back, but I want to stay on this particlar model because of the color if possible.

>>101139858
cool, thanks. Probably gonna just get two of those 1080p ASUS monitors in the OP then.

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>>101137172
>not going with the AE-7

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>>101131624
Genuinely curious. Would putting an anime girl figure potentially increase heat inside the PC because of the figure's materials, or damage the figure itself?

>>101139892
If the vibration frequency of your graphics card matches that of the PSU, they resonate and the vibration becomes loud enough to be audible. Both of them are right. Generally cards and PSUs of the same batch have the same frequency, so exchanging might not solve the issue. On the other hand, the coil whine frequency is largely random among all the parts (and even among different production runs of the same model), and it IS a bad lottery to get coil whine.

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>>101139985
Increase heat, probably. Due to impeding airflow, not the material.
Damage the figure, unlikely unless it's directly touching the hot heatsink of a part or something.
Picrel is inside mine and makes it run roughly 1 degree hotter, tested.

>>101139892
I have bad news for you, it's not that simple.
Your new video card could be exposing a bigger (costlier) problem.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/coil%20whine%20sparky/

>>101139756
Alrighty, seems like it un-unfuckable

>>101139892
>1) Is this a particularly bad case? Most people online seem to report it only at over ~300fps.
Many card will push some sort of sound into audible range at super high fps. What fps do you hear cw at? Does limiting your fps to your refresh rate fix it?
>Is there unit variance between cards of the same model?
Yes. Though some models are just bad and most cards of that model can have it. For others its rare. You need to research this for your model yourself.
>others say it's a lottery.
Even in the worst models there are always lucky ones that don't make any audible sound. It's a lottery either way. Do bear in mind that it is possible that the next card will have even worse cw.
>>101139995
>If the vibration frequency of your graphics card matches that of the PSU, they resonate and the vibration becomes loud enough to be audible.
This is nonsense. Coil whine is caused by vibrations of the coils inside the GPU inductors resonating with each other. The way PSU delivers power affects GPU coil whine shitton but PSU and GPU do not resonate with each other lmao.
> and it IS a bad lottery to get coil whine.
Sadly not that bad. Many manufacturers cheapen out on inductors, nor glue them properly. Many cards have fairly widespread CW rates.

>>101140048
This is sometimes the case but it's rare. The core problem with cw is most commonly poor acoustics surrounding inductors and gpu board design. Many cards will scream like crazy in perfect power delivery too.

redpill me on why to avoid noctua fans

>>101140223
expensive for what they give you

>>101139995
>>101140092
Thanks, I'll try getting another one then. If it ends up having more coil whine then I'll just cope and seethe and anti-shill the company on every forum.
>>101140048
Hopefully not - none of my previous builds had any whine at all so I'm gonna assume its not that

>>101140223
they signify you're white and most people on 4chan are brown so they shouldn't use them

>Arrow Lake non-K at CES 2025
>Intel B860 at CES 2025
>potentially RTX 5080 and under in Q1 2025
Early 2025 is going to be expensive for me

>>101131624
i've waffled for years on whether or not to upgrade my pc, but i'm finally at the point where i want to play games that my current rig (ryzen 3 2200g, gtx750 1GB i got from my friend) simply isn't specced for.

came up with this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QQbRdH

some notes:

live in the US, budget ideally sub-$350 for these upgrades to what's been a very solid system for the last 5-6 years or so

i've upgraded my motherboard's BIOS so it should be able to take the ryzen 5 3600

it's cheaper to get another 16gb 2x8GB set and just put it in alongside my existing one than getting a new 32gb 2x16GB one

the graphics card is where i need the most guidance - i do have a 1060 6GB someone gave to me when i helped upgrade their rig, but it's HEAVILY used and i have no clue how reliable it'd be. i also run linux so i'd rather not have an nvidia card, though i do have one right now. i chose the 580 in my build because you can still buy it new and it doesn't seem overkill to me

turns out my GPU is both an extremely terrible overclocker and a totally average undervolter, at least it's totally quiet

did you guys ever hit silicon lottery on some parts?
best I ever had was a 3700X that could somehow boot and bench at 2000mhz FCLK

>>101140302
okay for the gpu you can buy a 6600 or 6650 (new) for 200-220. On the used market you can get something like a 5700xt for the amount of money the rx 580 costs (120-125). RTX 2000 series is also doable at that price range, used.

For the processor If you don't mind buying from AliExpress you can get a 5600 for 95 or so. The ram is a nothing burger they cost pretty much the same all of them so 35. You won't exceed the 350

>>101140302
RX 580 is ancient junk. Buy something like second hand 3060 or 5700xt.
>i also run linux so i'd rather not have an nvidia card, though i do have one right now.
I have been daily diving arch on my 3060 last few months. No major issues, but your call.
I would also strongly recommend buying 5600 for just a little bit more. Should be worth it.

>>101140315
>at least it's totally quiet
Worth infinitely more than practically unnoticeable single digit performance boost.

>>101140315
I have one of the best 4080 Super FE according to 3DMark leaderboards.
The GPU deserves to be water cooled because the FE cooler is thermally limiting the performance, but I bought it because I like the FE cooler.
I would’ve bought a 4090 if I planned on custom water cooling my card anyway.

>>101137426
it's tricky, AM5 might last long enough that you'd have to get a mobo+ram eventually anyway, you can get a decent mobo+ram combo for <$300 currently. but current non-X670E motherboards are shitty ass at getting DDR5-8000 stable, takes literal weeks/months of tuning if it's even possible at all. maybe cope with 1800X until zen 5 and X870/X870E motherboards come out. overclockable 7200+ mhz DDR5 kits don't have to cost that much especially if you get them during an aliexpress sale or a temporary reduction on amazon.

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>>101140315
I own a 290x tri-x that will do 1200mhz on the core which is a monstrous 20% overclock and well above the average overclock (which is 1150mhz). Sucks down more power than my current 7900xtx though lol.

>>101139532
>Q1 2023
old as fuck

but yeah, i thought about it a while ago. nvidias offices have already been raided with no rhyme or reason in france. even if they wanted to cut prices, they dont really can because it would result in even bigger market share and who knows if, especially the current, FTC wouldn't demand some divestiture

>>101141315
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