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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.

>UPCOMING
AMD Ryzen 9000 (Jul 2024), 9000X3D (Sep 2024)
Intel Arrow Lake (Q4 2024)
Intel Battlemage (Q4 2024)
RTX 5000 Series (Q1 2025)

>CPU
Web browsing: i3 12100/5600G
Budget: 12400F/5600/12600KF/13600KF
High end gaming: 7800X3D
Workstation: 14700K

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: TR Phantom Spirit 120 SE/EVO/Peerless Assassin SE, Scythe Mugen 6
Single towers: TR Assassin Spirit EVO
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
AVOID: Dark Rock Pro 4/5, Noctua

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3600CL18. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6400CL32 (Intel), 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>GPU
1080p: RTX 4060; budget: RX 6600; ultra budget: used RTX 2060
1440p: RX 7900GRE / RTX 4070 Super
2160p: RX 7900XT / RTX 4080 Super
Production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Montech Air 100, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 216/III

>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atx-v3-0-pcie-5-0-ready-psus-picks-2023-hardware-busters/ (updated for 2024)

>MONITOR
Standout:
1080p: Asus VG249Q1A
1440p: Dell G2724D
2160p: Gigabyte M32U / Dell G3223Q
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YmTPkJ

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Budget: Arctic P12/P14 Max (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM

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First for Arrow Lake
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>Lunarlake 30W: 7561
>Radeon 780M 45W: 5102
Thank you intel. amd is done
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>>101170741
>xe2 64EU 50% faster than xe 128EU.
its over for amd
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am I, a below average human, going to notice the difference between a 137ppi density screen and a 163ppi screen?

I'm currently using old 24" 1440p monitors and am ready to upgrade. I like the idea of having 32"s being significantly larger than what I'm used to (even mix of gayming and cad work), but I'm sure i'll be fine with 27"s if the increased pixel density is significantly and noticeably "better"
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>>101171231
also I've never had larger than a 24" screen- would a 32" look weird with shit like the task bar?
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>>101171290
people generally get used to larger screens very fast and dont want to go back to a smaller one
32" 4k is pretty standard for productivity
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>look on ebay
>HGST Ultrastar DC HC520 HUH721212ALE601 12TB SATA 6Gb 256MB 3.5" Enterprise HDD
>$80
>but it's refurbished
>has 6 year warrenty
Worth it? It'd be backup/media drive
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https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200v-lunar-lake-reportedly-hits-4100-points-in-timespy-at-30w

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL
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i have an 8700k and want to upgrade, it's either a 9700x next month and upgrade to x3d in 2027, or wait til next year for the 15th gen intel. wwyd? the lower tdp for a silent case is a big draw for me
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>>101170717
It's the new meme marketing but

Asus Fast VA
v
MSI Rapid VA
v
AOC Fast VA

Which one is better? All Taiw--Chinese.
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>>101171925
RIP there goes the main reason for considering AMD
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>>101171935
Just enable 65W eco mode in bios bruh
>>101171925
I'm getting a 7800x3d and quality b650 for cheap now and giving it to my brother later and getting a 9800x3d+x870e
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Christ just how much overtime is Intel paying you shills?
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>>101172045
thanks, you convinced me
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>>101171935
>even the box art is starting to resemble the FX series again
kek
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M3yTL9
USA ~$2000
First time building a PC, trying to make sure it's fairly portable since I'll have to carry it around a lot. Planning on using it for college (data science) and gaming (Most intensive game I plan on running is probably Arma 4 when it comes out). I just want to confirm with you guys if the parts look good (also I have to get all my parts from Amazon since they're a gift from my parents and they don't want to buy parts off other websites).
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I need help upgrading.
I've been using an i5-9400f since 2019 and up until I started playing Cyberpunk 2077 I did not feel it was bottlenecking my 3060ti.
Friends are saying ddr5 has its issues such as boot times and some boards are finicky on the am5 side. I do not want to be stuck on an older generation again just because of the socket on my motherboard. Where do I go from here?
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AYYMD was always a second source supplier living in the shadow of Intel. Their response to Hector Ruiz still holds true to this day.
>Intel pointed to AMD's "playing it safe... with anemic investment in manufacturing capacity, leaving Intel to shoulder the burden of investment to enhance the usefulness of computers and enhance the market." In addition, Intel claims that AMD has been "dogged" by a reputation of being unreliable as a supplier, has traditionally lagged in innovation, and has seen products delayed well beyond original launch dates.
>AMD has only itself to blame for failing in the marketplace. When AMD delivered on time, it gained market share. Intel has no control over their delivery schedules, that is completely in AMD's hands, they just aren't living up to their customers and it shows with their market share.
>Intel said it has demonstrated over a 30-year period that it can deliver faster, better, and cheaper products to consumers, in part because of its continued multibillion-dollar investment in new capacity and research and development even during downturns in the semiconductor market.
>"In short," Intel wrote in its response, "AMD's colorful language and fanciful claims cannot obscure its goal of shielding the company from price competition."
Particularly bang on pointing out AMD's poor reliability as a supplier (especially now since they are fabless) and lagging behind in innovation and launch dates whilst investing little in R&D and capacity. It's less of Intel and NVIDIA being bad and more AMD just being stupid as always.
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>>101173035
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haven't upgraded my PC for 7 years other than a new SSD
looking forward to when this one dies and I can go from my i5-8400 to the new i5-fuckin....18000 or whatever they're up to now
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>>101172959
Am5 is fine if you avoid MSI boards and non-hynix branded ddr5 ram
>>101172747
Ram is too fast
6000cl30 is better for a plug and play expo profile
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>>101173075
Cope. Intel and NVIDIA used every lever at their disposal to gain market share and deny it to their competition, "rules" within the market are just dressing for pencil pushers. If they didn't think they could get away with it, they wouldn't do it. Especially considering the incompetency of their main "competition", particularly in diplomacy and marketing.
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>>101173087
RAM can be too fast?
Also I don't really plan on using it as a plug and play, it's just that I'll be moving around every couple of months so I don't want carrying it to be hassle. Besides that though everything looks fine? Also a big concern I am having is that it seems like only 1 of the USB 3.2 Gen 1 headers is connecting to the case despite there being 2 headers and 2 ports, anyone know why that's the case?
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>>101171429
Depends on how you see it
You can see it as these drives have been running constantly for 5 years in a rigorous operating environment and that alone make them untrustworthy to use
Or you can see it as these drives are otherwise in exceedingly good heath despite how long and hard they have been ran and thus likely have lots of life left

Personally I see it as it's $80 for 12TB, a new WD red is $240 for the same capacity, you'd have to get very unlucky for a new drive to be worth it.
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>>101173218
6400 is too fast for most am5 CPUs since you'd have to run the fabric at 2133mhz where most CPUs max out around 2066mhz (6200mt/s ram)

Plug and play means that you'll not have to fuck around with voltages, clocks and timings manually to get it working reliably. If you're into overclocking, by all means get a 6400 or 6800 kit to play around with.
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My pc is from 9y ago. I got an RX 6700 XT on a discount some time ago and I would like to upgrade my pc. It would have to be basically a new pc. I don't know much about pc building but I was thinking about jumping to ddr5. Any advice or some builds to recommend?
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>>101173218
Its a quirk of the architecture, if the memory speed is too high the infinity fabric can't keep up and switches to a lower speed ratio to the memory speed which hurts performance
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>>101173100
>Intel and NVIDIA used every lever at their disposal to gain market share and deny it to their competition, "rules" within the market are just dressing for pencil pushers
Not him but why do you people exist. You will never have any of this benefit you because you are not a shareholder. Competition applies positive pressure to provide people like you and me better products and services, certainly. But the result of eschewing the 'dressing' you're dismissing is borderline scam products like the 4060 Ti 8gb, and more and more predatory price rigging.
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>>101173273
>the infinity fabric
is that what the cosmic stones are wrapped in?
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>>101173218
USB 3 header carries 2 ports, type-c headers carry one port
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>>101173268
>jumping to ddr5
my advice is to stop thinking in these terms
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>>101173274
That said I agree AMD is retarded.
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>>101173364
Absolutely. I mean who fuck just glues cpus together? That shit was outdated by 2004.
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It really surprised me how much of cooling is just diminishing returns
Like, a perfectly good dual tower air cooler is $35, yet a 360mm AIO over 3x the price is only marginally better. Lots of fans are also unnecessary, just 2 intake and 1 exhaust will significantly decrease your temps vs no fans, but adding more case fans barely does anything, I guess unless you need lots of low rpm fans for a quiet build but still with good temps
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>>101173274
Let's not also forget that prior to the onset of the 2010's how AMD has been making virtually no money or growth from their product sales due to Intel simply being able to shut them out through bribes towards retailers and OEMs among other unfair tactics all over the board as the US DoJ put it. Most would probably be able to remember how you literally couldn't find systems with AMD parts in the early 2000s even when they were dominant for over 7 years, or that most people would be completely unaware that they even existed or had better performance in both desktop and servers.

That, and the decades of litigation since the 1980's where Intel was trying to kill off AMD from the start and have the x86 market to themselves. Had they succeeded, and AMD went bankrupt come 2010 due to having no money left to invest in R&D or fabs (which Intel likes to poke fun at deliberately ignoring why they don't have the resources to spend in the first place) then NVIDIA would have also likely been shut out of the market overnight as Intel controls the PCIE and ATX standard. They were that close to becoming a total monopoly.

This would also trickle into the graphics market, as Radeon GPUs would become neglected and sidelined in favor of CPUs. So even the current GPU market can be partly to blame on Intel's corporate antics.
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>>101173381
>yet a 360mm AIO over 3x the price is only marginally better.
it is all about what heat load you are throwing at it.
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>>101173315
Ah okay, thanks a ton. So basically the one USB 3 header connects to both ports on the case?
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>>101170741
>>101170774
>shitel marketing team
Guess Intel will release yet another DOA product.
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>>101171841
>reportedly
0.0001 shekel have been deposited to your shitel account
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>>101173035
>one shitel shill post after another
absolute state lmao
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>>101173415
>>101173428
>>101173440
The scared AMDumb reveals themselves.
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>>101173254
>>101173273
Thanks for explaining, never knew that was possible.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CJC6HG31?tag=pcpapi-20&psc=1
In that case think I should just use this?
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>>101173381
Everything outside of CPU and GPU is diminishing returns pretty much
It actually annoys me how much people try to convince others to spend so much more on what ends up being small changes. Like I get your excited a $25 fan is 15% better than a $5 but that doesn't make it good for everyone.

>>101173406
With CPUs being as heat dense as they are it's not all about heat load. A 360mm AIO should be able to dissipate 300-400w but struggles with certain CPUs well under that wattage
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>>101173455
cope and seethe shill no amount of spam will make intel recover
israel lost
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>4k this 4k that
>oled this oled that
>brightness issues
>cable issues
>dsc
>scaling shenaningans with ppi
should I bend the knee and buy a slopcore 27" 1440p180hz N-IPS slop?
they are almost free, I haven't had a monitor for ages that works now
or is it just a poorfag cope
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>>101173546
Why would anyone ever possibly need more than 1366x768 @ 60hz? Brainless consoomers is the answer and you are falling for it hook, line and sinker.
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>>101173455
Post some arrowlake news and people will actually start caring about intel again
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I wanna build a new pc that can handle running a bunch of VMs, 4k gaming and 3d modeling. I was thinking about a ryzen build with some ddr5 ram and an msi 4090 suprim liquid cooled gpu, but I havent built a PC in 10 years and im still unsure. whats better for running a bunch of ram and still be stable intel or amd? what would be a good case that can fit 2 radiators and not be overkill? im in the US and my budget is around $4000-$4500

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yxkP4M
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>>101171290
how much scaling are you gonna use
>>101171932
>VA
they are all bad
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>>101173651
>liquid cooled gpu
I don't recommend this, it's going to be annoying to maintain and resell in the long run.
It's going to need an air-cooled shroud or a custom water block when the pump fails or the coolant evaporation affects performance.
Practically all of the air-cooled 4090s have oversized coolers to keep it relatively cool & quiet.
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NR200P is based, that is all
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>>101173651
Both platforms are pretty stable as long as you only install 2 ram sticks, so, up to 2x48gb would be fine.
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whats the best value GPU for 400-500 euros? Would prefer AMD since I use Linux, but I am open to Nvidia
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>>101173806
7800xt is pretty gud
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>>101173806
RX 7800 XT is precisely at that price point and is pretty competitive on price/performance
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Day 448 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
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How is ssd improvements throughout the years, in terms of gaming?
Are loading times of SSDs nowadays significantly shorter than 5 years ago, or is the difference basically negligible?
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>>101171932
Look up black smearing and you're never going to want a VA panel, even the ones with really good response times have it
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Blue bad
Red good
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>>101174150
Israel bad
Taiwan good
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>>101174150
Shh… amd fans hate innovation.
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>>101174083
It's not significant
Even in the best case
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>>101173583
I wouldn't even use that on my phone, need more ppi
then again windows and scaling and fucking about is a different thing still
>>101173651
be prepared to lasso your system to deal with the slop that is dual ccd x3d
>>101174050
>tfw no hawkmaxxed ashkenazi mommy milker milf
>>101174083
I think only gaymes that have long sequantial loads you will see big improvements, but in 99% of the time a sata vs nvmeme doesn't even matter
I wouldn't buy below gen4 though, those you can still use with normal heatsink
gen5 I think you actually start needing active cooling for the memes to function
I think we have hit the point of diminshing returns
those shitty gaymes need to implement that new loading thing that was supposed to happen but nothing happened yet so yeah
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is 1100€ for the lg 32 4k oled a decent price?
also is it usable at 100% scaling or do fonts still suck asshole?
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Does it matter what 4070 Super I buy or should i just go for the cheapest?
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>>101174266
Vile
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>>101174479
considering that shit cost 1700€ here I would say yes
it's even 100€ less than the cheapest 4k 240hz oled then which is the alienware one here
where are you getting it this cheap
the ppi and wrgb clarity seems doable yes, but I think 100% scaling at normal desk viewing distance would be miniscule, even at the same ppi at laptopt distance it's quite small, I'm using like 125% browser scaling at laptop distance
>>101174492
law of the cheapest aib holds firm sir
>>101174746
PLAP
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>>101174492
Look at the reviews to see how the fan noise is like if that bothers you, otherwise go with whatever brand offers the best RMA without charging too much.
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>>101170717
Is there any reason why I should pick RX 7900GRE over RTX 4070 Super if they're priced evenly where I live?
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>>101173806
7800 XT but look at the 6800 and 7900 GRE too and grab the best deal overall.
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>>101174769
no way it costs 1700€ lmao
check lg website, on my socialist shithole it has a base price of 1399€, but there's a 15% pre order discount, 5% coupon for first buy, 2% discount on everything for being a member of lg website and i also added a 1% cashback because of my card
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>>101174782
It's supposed to be cheaper so that's a negative. GRE has more VRAM and slightly better raster, 4070S has better features and is more power efficient.
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>>101174795
>no way it costs 1700€ lmao
https://www.lg.com/se/monitor/ultragear-gaming/32gs95ue-b/
it's the most expensive one out of all of them by far here
the alienware is "only" 1200€
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>>101174858
it's possible that they will update the price, on my country's website the price was 1599€ until the 24th and then it was lowered and the pre order discount was also added
oleds are overpriced anyways
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>>101174881
same price on all other retailers
if it's cheaper than the alienware buy it easy choice
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How hot is too hot for a hard drive these days? There's around a 5-10C temperature difference If I stick my Toshiba drives inside my chassis versus laying them outside separately. They're cooking at around 46c right now. versus 35-41c.
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>>101174782
GRE is only worth it if you only need raw rasterization (no RT) and it's considerably cheaper, the 4070S is just plain better otherwise
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>>101174789
>>101173833
>>101173835
Wait fuck I forgot to say im with a 750w PSU and I use the 7950x as the CPU
Wouldnt it be too much for it to handle?
Also, between the 7700xt or the 7600xt which one is the best value? (Im leaning over or the 7600xt or the 7800xt cause of the vram)
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>>101175213
>Wouldnt it be too much for it to handle?
No it's fine, and you can cut power consumption quite a bit with an undervolt.
>between the 7700xt or the 7600xt which one is the best value?
Neither are really great. The 7600 XT is pretty weak and the 6800 performs the same or slightly better than the 7700 XT but with more VRAM.
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>2025
>new cpu prices stabilize
>nvidia 50 series
>4K oled

I gon' splurge real good shiiieeeetttt
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If someone could help me with understanding PCIe SSDs and NVMe and stuff I would greatly appreciate it.

I am in the process of building a brand new PC but ran into trouble late last night while installing windows. Both windows and my bios did not recognize my ssd. I have a gigabyte b650 eagle ax motherboard and my ssd is a team group 2tb 4.0 x4 with NVMe. I installed the ssd into the first (top) PCIe slot on the motherboard, which I am now seeing is actually a 5.0 slot. Is this why it is not being recognized? I see there are two other PCIe slots behind where the GPU would sit that are apparently 4.0. To be honest I haven't built a computer or dealt with new parts in over 10 years so this is all very new to me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am planning on taking the GPU out and trying those other 2 slots today, but I just want to know if that is actually the reason why the ssd was not recognized.
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>>101173391
I actually never knew that. That's pretty wild, and very jay eesh behaviour indeed, thanks.
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What will be price range of x870 boards?
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Honestly if intel releases another faulty line of CPU's with Arrow Lake, I think im going to buy modded ps2 and call it with PC gaming.
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>>101175710
Quitter, the chips are only going to get better.
Arrow Lake is meant to be a stop-gap product until the 18A process is ready for mass production.
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>>101175790
>two more generations until shitel wont be shit trust the plan!
kek
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>>101175710
>using boost algos and not all core locked oc and get wild volt swings
>not disabling cuck cores and get cucked ring clocks
>not being a sigma tuner and having problems that don't exist for real ligma chads
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>>101170717
>just built an aliexpress/ebay PC for $250
>x99 board/xeon 1650 v4 (broadwell 6c/12t)
>16gb duel channel ddr4 2667
>512gb nvme
>5500 xt

Im able to play Pubg and Apex @1080p/med/120+fps

>feels good man
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FSR 3.1 is out in a few Nixxes games by the way.

The reason you're not hearing anything about it and AMD didn't bother to advertise it is because there's virtually no improvement over the previous FSR version whatsoever. That gif comparison about massively reduced ghosting and disocclusion was 100% a scam, it's still the same as pic related.
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can you tell me whats the cheapest tier A or b psu ? i want to spend the rest of my money on case
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>>101176235
you're not hearing about it because my pirated copy sourced havent uploaded the patch yet.
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>>101175710
just get a 7800x3D, literally the best gaming CPU by far

not going back to Intel till they have something comparable, it's too fast and efficient (30 watts while gaming, beating 200+ watt 14900k's)
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Who here uses a hard drive?
Why?
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>>101176235
The signs were already there when reliable PS5 Pro leaks claimed Sony developed their upscaling solution.
DigitalFoundry confirmed the hardware specs & features shared to PS devs are true.
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/97009/playstation-5-pros-new-pssr-to-radically-improve-image-quality-has-1-2gb-more-ram-for-games/index.html
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>>101176478
since fsr3 is open source whats stopping someone from taking it and making it better than what it is
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>>101176472
There's no point wasting write endurance on SSDs when documents, media files, and retro games take 0 advantage of it.
Steam and GeForce Experience's continuous gameplay recording feature is also better saved on HDDs.
https://youtu.be/7Ub4wDMo17Y?t=196
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>>101176472
Because an 8TB SSD is expensive as hell? And even then it's nowhere near enough storage for me so the only option is still HDDs.
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>>101176575
Poorfag
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>>101176472
i have some oldass leftover drives so i just put one in my pc for maymay storage and use the other ones as additional backups.
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>>101170717
how much paste i need for a am5 cpu? is 2g syringe enough? also why do trannies keep shilling kryonaut and noctua when theyre 3x the price of mx4/6? is the arctic goo somehow bad for high heat loads? lots of dryouts or something?
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So what will be NVIDIA's gaming gimmick for Blackwell? For Ada it was frame gen.
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>>101176749
They've got some texture compression shit in the works, that's all I know so far.
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>>101176522
The image reconstruction technique used in FSR's upscaling algorithm has a lower image quality ceiling because it uses less frame data from the game with no AI-trained upscaling technique.
FSR only looks at current frame data whereas XeSS & DLSS uses data from current & past frames for image reconstruction.
AMD just wanted to make something that even works on PS4, Xbox One, and even the Switch hardware.
They don't prioritize delivering the best possible features for their Radeon dGPU customers.
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>>101176737
It's just faggots trying to validate their purchase.
NT-H2 is fine. Kryonaut is wasting money because it was never developed with maintaining long-term optimum heat transfer in mind, it's probably going to perform worse than MX6 in the long term.
Thermal Grizzly showed off new pastes for long-term application purposes during this Computex.
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How much should I value a dGPU in a laptop? Looking to buy a gift and I've got the choice between 12650H for $320 and a 12450H + RTX2050 for $400($500 for same ram/ssd).
They mostly play older games, but modded to hell and back to the point of >10GB mods per game.
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Why the fuck do companies stagger releasing their new products instead of pushing it all out at once? Why wait longer for X3D chips or lower end GPUs?
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Der Bauer has the integrity to tell people to just buy Hydronaut instead of Kryonaut for standard application.
https://youtu.be/bbVAG5MNi2E?t=826
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>>101176737
Use an indium sheet.
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Is a rx 6800 enough if I'm only going to play at 1080p and don't plan on playing AAA games?
Is there a better/cheaper alternative?
By budget for the gpu is at most $500
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how bad would a rtx 3080 struggle in 4k gaming? i'm itching to finally replace my shitty monitor with an oled but blackwell might be so far away ;___;
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>>101176994
The $360 6800 is probably the best bang/buck GPU right now, more than enough for 1080p and can even do 1440p. The 7800 XT is better and can be found for $480.
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>>101176997
The cucked 10gb version might struggle, but otherwise you could be able to get by with DLSS.
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>>101176997
Adjust some settings and use DLSS on supported games.
Most of the hardware-demanding modern games support DLSS anyway.
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>>101170717
Any good looking budget cases with decent temps?
Under 100€ if possible, can go higher if it's a full glass casen
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>>101176325
750-850w psus are like 100 euroshekels, you just buy any half decent reviewed one
>>101176235
artifacts and render pop in when moving mouse even on nshittya in vidya games and eshit titles
is this shit even usable?
haven't tested since my gpu is not rtx so I can't see if it's actual shi
>>101176450
there are reasons not to but if I mention them smooth brains will attack me
but it's all the same shit really, almost
cuck cores are shit, dual ccds are shit
>>101176472
storing slop, not gonna put in any in a desktop build though
>>101176575
>expensive as hell
satas are cheap
>>101176749
dp 2.1 ports and uhh better raytracing
>>101176909
even a shit dgpu beats the integrated gpus easily so
>>101176997
can't run ER in 4k maxed at 60fps so yep, it's quite over
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Is Lunar Lake gonna be better than Ryzen AI 300 or what
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>>101177182
lianli lancool 216
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Should I wait for Prime day to buy PC parts?
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looking to get a small form factor optiplex for linux. what kind of GPUs will work with picrel's anemic 300w power supply? they offered these things with rx 640s when they came out but i want to know if i can get anything better
all i play is cities skylines 1 and ksp
i could probably dump $200 on a shitty gpu for this thing
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how's this for web browsing and youtube? an anon asked specifically for this for his parents and was looking at older piece of shit PCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR8nHMSDxzE
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>>101177707
Maybe a 1650?
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are you getting any frame drops in youtube (looking at "stats for nerds") when using a basic cpu with igpu? i was getting a ton of dropped frames with core 2 duo and nvidia gt710
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is an AIO really justified for the average user? Like, what do you need to use your pc for that a standard fan is not enough and you actually need an AIO?
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>>101177682
no, pretty much only Alexas and Kindles get discounts, you will be disappointed
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>>101170717
Telling ppl to buy GPUs in the 600 bucks range that come with 12gb VRAM should automatically get you gun down.
Stop being a Ngreedia drone.
https://youtu.be/dx4En-2PzOU
https://youtu.be/P2qs2lLdWHY
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>>101177938
I hear some people say it's better if you move your PC around a lot, less stress on the socket. Otherwise I think it's mostly about aesthetics and noise, in that order. A lot of air coolers now are really quiet anyway.
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>>101177938
no
i have a nhd14 air cooler that has lasted over 15 years across multiple platforms
show me an aio that has lasted that long
they are a meme
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>>101177938
what does average user mean
if you run housefire cpus or oc you want aio, if not then its optional
unless you transport pc and cant ship with a mounted tower cooler
>>101178034
less than 16gb vram lmao worse than a console
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>>101170717
>Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA)
>Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX
>Lian Li Lancool 216/III
these are cheap asfuck, what's the catch and which one is best?
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>>101178389
Apparently the fans on the lancool 216 are custom made for it so it might ont be that easy to replace them if they die.
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I need the lightest, smallest mouse possible .
My quakeboomer wrist gets fucked up after a couple hours of strafing.
Any suggestions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skdzrMZJr_c
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>>101170717
>putting plastic doll inside pc
cringe
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>>101173391
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>>101173035
>repeating literal intel propaganda
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I have no SSD slots left in my MB, and they are both full. Are HDDs still viable for gaming? I wanted to get a 4TB WD Red drive for games I don't play much, but when I was playing new games like Alan Wake off my HDD. I was experiencing textures not loading in.
I currently have a 2TB 980 Pro for work stuff
1TB Crucial SSD, which is full just for games
2TB shitty WD HDD 90% full for movies and older games that aren't affected by SSD speeds.
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FX-fags, what's the absolute best no compromise FM2+ (or AM3+) motherboard feature-wise (especially connectivity wise) that I can acquire? Doing a retro build because reasons (I have the money among other things). Pretend this is 2014.

Most common AM3+ board from the 990FX chipset I can find is the ANUS Sabertooth, for FM2+ it's Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-DS2 along with ANUS A88XM Pro boards. But I am certain there are much better models if I want a complete build from this era.
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Best sub $60 GPU to game with while waiting for RTX 5000?
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27 inch 4k OLEDs when?
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>>101179572
>FX-fags
>*echoes* FX-fags
>*echoes* FX-fags
>*echoes* FX-fags
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>>101179567
Maybe just get a sata SSD or an M.2 to pcie card you can slot in to an empty PCIe slot?
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>>101178586
There are specialized "fingertip" mice that are tiny and basically missing the entire back end.
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>>101179606
>27 inch
>4K

retard
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>>101179582
You might see an RX580 go to $60. If not, 570 or 1050Ti. By the way, if you're really this broke you're going to be waiting for most of a year for the low end 5000 series to drop.
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>>101179743
is the 70 series 'low end'?
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>>101179737
Don't take your shit eyesight out on me
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>>101179572
>FX-fags
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>>101179689
These things? Looks promising.
I can probably still palm it since I don't need to click really.
Good call
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>>101179757
Not really but the 5070 going to be $600+ in all likelihood. A bit out of the price range of a guy looking to minmax a $60 card.
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a 750W psu is fine for a 4070 super, right?
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>>101178586
Zoomer who plays Quake and Unreal Tournament here, am I going to do myself harm by using something weighty like a G502 for these games in my later years?
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>>101179794
What's so hard to understand about not wanting to waste money on a current gen card that will lose 40%+ of its value in a few months? I may be poor but I'm not a retard.
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>>101176997
You'll be running in DLSS Performance in new games most of the time, and occasionally you'll have to optimize around the VRAM for the best performance. But generally the VRAM will be the least of your worries. High end RTX 50 will be out by the end of this year, at least the 5080 if not the 5090.

>>101176994
>and don't plan on playing AAA games?
Nvidia is usually a lot better for random PC games. Often PC devs don't give a shit about Radeon, as the install base is so small

>>101176930
They generally release the lower selling items first to try to milk.
Higher profit margins on bigger graphics cards, profits from the people who can't wait.
Everyone knows the X3D chips are the best for gaming, so AMD hopes to convince the non-X3D buyers to upgrade faster out of FOMO

>>101177813
Sucks, look for a used Dell Optiplex 7050 Mini

>>101177852
You probably don't have hardware acceleration, meaning the CPU has to brute force the encoding with its ancient performance
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>>101176997
10 gigs of vram is too low, aim for 16 at least
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>>101179851
>Nvidia is usually a lot better for random PC games
what is a good alternative to the rx 6800 then? I was planning on a 3060 but apparently is not really worth it for the money
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>>101179823
I was just saying it's odd to be aiming for a $600 upgrade but not be willing to break triple digits on your holdover. Fair enough if you don't mind sticking to indies and old games for 6-9 months.
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>>101179807
Hmm. Kinda hard to say, but I think you'll be alright.
I've always been a bit of a wristlet (probably because I've slept on them my whole life).
If you just take a few days off any time you notice some discomfort you should be able to avoid any actual persisting damage. Carpal is a meme if you just pay attention.
Playing low sens and using your whole arm to aim is really strong in AFPS and that also happens to reduce wrist fatigue.
It's only when I started lowering my sens for strafing and pushing my limits that I started having problems.
Happy fragging.
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>>101179968
4060
because DLSS will give you ultra high performance frames
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>>101179968
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/E6B83wN--AdxMQ6SfA-M_w/
Just so you know.
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>>101180016
>4060
>substitute to a rx 6800
Man you ppl aren't even trying with your shitpost anymore.
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>>101180028
oh I see. Thanks for the heads up
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>2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD)
IS IT MUST TO BE CL30 6000MHZ?
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>>101178389
I'd pick a case with the tallest CPU cooler & widest GPU compatibility.
The maximum CPU cooler height also helps you guess the cabling clearance for wider video cards.
Phanteks XT Pro (Ultra) appears to be the case out of the three.
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>>101180105
I'm not saying it's wrong just that it has an agenda. The New York Times seldom straight-up lies but that doesn't mean they're on your side.
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>>101180125
Speed matters more, CL30 helps you get Hynix chips.
CL36 will most likely be Samsung or Micron chips, these don't perform or OC as well.
You won't notice the difference unless you're tracking 1%/0.1% lows.
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>>101180157
a lot/10
no AM5 paste guard/10
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>>101180179
>a lot
That's fine then, it's not conductive so no harm done
I was considering a paste guard, but there's no way I'm paying 10 fucking dollars for a tiny piece of plastic that's as thin as a piece of paper
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>>101180156
>Speed matters more
What is this? DDR4?
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>>101179806
Yes, if you're buying a new PSU make sure it's ATX 3.0 / got 12VHPWR

>>101179794
I don't think it'll be more than $600

>>101179582
Integrated graphics

>>101178034
Retard
AMDumboxed produced the most low effort, trash methodology 'muh vram' video I've had the displeasure of not watching in a while, and pic related is why. 8 GB is barely insufficient for max quality settings in a small handful of games, and you retards are already meming about 12 GB
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>>101179572
Formula V - it is the cream of the crop AM3+ board.
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>>101180195
Oh this guy, notice he cropped the chart to present a one-off case.
Not to mention 5600MT/s CL28 kits are costlier in the real market because these kits can most likely run 6000MT/s CL30 and sold as such..
Costlier than 6400MT/s CL32 in fact.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#S=5600,8400&Z=32768002&F=6000000,10000000&sort=price&page=1
Fuck. Off :)
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>>101180157
its 'fine' but im gonna rate it 4/10
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4080 Supers are getting cheap
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>>101180303
Most people who wanted it already bought one by this point. It's getting closer to the next-gen card announcement.
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>>101180303
>card nobody wants drops in price
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>>101179966
Moronic

>>101179968
>what is a good alternative to the rx 6800 then?
Depends on what you want to play. Personally I would punt with a 4060; current gen, cheaper, cooler / quieter, etc. It'll probably play anything you want, but of course check some benchmarks on youtube.

>>101180028
A record of my victories in /pcbg/, thank you

>>101180125
For AMD, you need low latency and high bandwidth. That means 5600CL28, 6000CL30, or 6400CL32. With the X3D chips, memory isn't as important to performance.
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>>101180303
where? they're all still 1050+
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I feel bad for the clueless ppl that come here for legit advice and get baited into buying literal scams because of Nvidiafags.
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>>101177707
>Anon's correct with GTX 1650 low profile
see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khrsfvI8kmI
I did similar with a HP Slim and a GT 1030 low profile gddr5 plus a intel Core i3 10100 and 16 gig ram upgrade
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>>101180365
For that kind of performance $1500 is a steal. A mere $1000 (plus tip) is daylight robbery. Especially when you take in to account DLSS RAY RECONSTRUCTION, DLSS FRAME GENERATION, and DLSS HYPER UPSAMPLING.
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>>101180409
>AMDrone outs themselves
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>7800X3D
>4070 super
>G.Skill 32GB (2x16GB) 6400MHz
>Seasonic Focus G12 GC Gold 750W
what kind of tower should i get for this setup?
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>>101180535
It's a 300W build so anything will do. Also don't bother with 6400MT/s on AMD. Not worth the hassle especially on the X3D.
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>>101180535
One you like and fits your component.
If you plan to own a massive video card in the future, get something with at least 170mm CPU cooler height and 370mm video card length clearance.
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>>101180303
The 5080 is less than six months out

>>101180195
>What is this? DDR4?
DDR4 isn't any different: the real latency (as calculated from both MT/s and latency) is most important

>>101176749
Could be something to do with upscaled textures, but I doubt it'll be exclusive to RTX 50. Possible though

>>101180409
AMDumb with no argument
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I can't get half of my standoff screws to line up with my motherboard so I can only install 4 throughout the board (micro ATX)
Is this fine? I'm using a dual tower CPU cooler so it's carrying a bit of weight
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>>101180577
Only 300W?
So maybe i should rather be looking at something with 6000mhz
>>101180580
Oh that reminds me, is a cpu cooler enough or should i look into getting case fans as well
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>>101180617
arent the 5080's looking like an absolute nothing upgrade from the 4080 supers? going by the leaks at least?
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>>101180246
I saw a Crosshair IV Formula board listed spmewhere but i'll have to check how much it differs from the other models.
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>>101180881
Cases listed in the OP usually have enough preinstalled fans.
You want 2-3 front intake and 1 exhaust.
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>>101180931
The 2nd best is the 990fx sabertooth which honestly is 99% of the board the formula is.
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>>101180890
RTX 5080's rumored to have the same 16GB memory configuration and performance is expected to be capped near the 4090D's to pass the US tech sanctions against China.
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>>101180956
Something I find amusing is that the top FM2+ motherboards seem to sell around the same price as the AM3+ motherboards ($50-$75) despite the obvious performance gap. I really don't understand why the FM platform even exists and why it wasn't merged into AM3+ to begin with.

Arguably overpriced in both cases but still amusing. Also, a lot of damaged Sabertooth boards. Even the Crosshair IV Formula's seem to have weird shit going on like scratches and damaged memory slot clips.
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>>101180976
alright i guess ill keep waiting
we are only talking months here
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>>101176472
I have around 30 TB of HDD storage

>>101176235
>FSR 3.1 is out
>there's virtually no improvement over the previous FSR version
Source?

>>101175338
It'll definitely be a decent time to buy

>>101174782
None, the 4070 Super is superior for gaming (and pretty much every other use)
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When is the 9950X coming out? Should i wait for it or just buy a 7950X right now?
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>>101181123
im waiting for x3d
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>4x PCI-E x16 slots
>2x eSATA ports
>8x SATA III ports
>14 USB ports
They don't make motherboards like they used to, holy shit. All of this for less than the cost of current low-end motherboards at around $200. Though the same mistake of not having a post code readout seems to persist.
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>>101181123
It'll be available in-store on 31 July
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the radiator with fans weighs 22.3lbs. I don't know the exact liquid capacity, but i'm gonna guess it's about a liter to a liter and a half, which should weigh 2-4lbs i think, so i'm going to design the server rack enclosure to hold 30lbs without flexing.
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>>101174492
Check roundups for the best cards, such as at techpowerup. The 4070 Super doesn't need beefy cooling, but some cards like the Windforce are louder than they should be

>>101173546
>27" 1440p
It's a fine option if you're waiting for OLED to get better (e.g, more models with DolbyVision, etc)

>>101173268
The RX 7600 is a reasonable purchase if you're thinking you might upgrade to an end of the line AM5 CPU. But if you're going to leave your PC unchanged for another nine years, just get an R5 5600X. The 6700 XT will already be the limiting factor in most games.

>>101172959
R5 7600

>>101171429
HGST is a great brand
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>>101181198
the radiator with fans weighs 22.3lbs. I don't know the exact liquid capacity, but i'm gonna guess it's about a liter to a liter and a half, which should weigh 2-4lbs i think, so i'm going to design the server rack enclosure to hold 30lbs without flexing.
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>>101181207

this is roughly how i figure i can mount it. a shelf on the front and back, with the threaded posts in the radiator being used to keep it stationary, with rubber sheet to clamp the radiator into the shelf. maybe 3mm Z shelf.
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>>101181207
>22 lb aio
are you using an intel cpu?
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>>101171231
If you're going to 32", just get 4K. For gaming you can use DLSS. 4K DLSS Performance > 1440p DLAA

>>101180890
Hard to know. Personally I'd waitTM if you're in the market for an XX80 class card and you have something usable now
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>>101181253
its not an AIO lol. it's just a plain old radiator.
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>>101181253
but yes, it's for a direct-die 13900ks
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>>101181293
what does the piss smell like
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be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850W or Corsair RM850x 850W at the same price point?
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>>101181382
i don't like corsair
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>>101181382
RM850e* fuck
Looking to buy new PSUs for some builds and I'd like them to be ATX 3.0
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>GTX 1650
Name a more overpriced and overvalued GPU than this piece of shit besides the GTX 1630. This thing easily costs at least twice what it should. Asking over a hundred dollars when the 280X/7970 or used 680 is right there.
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>>101181393
Corsair e series is chinesium garbage so you'd do well to avoid those
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>>101181683
i would rather trust krauts than insects desu
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>fsr 3.1
Not looking good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO4NYf-JWtM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjiYARQBakg
And here I had enough faith to think FSR could get better

>>101181537
>280X/7970
Can't use adaptive sync, massive power hog.
Why would you be looking at a 1650 anyway? The 3050 6 GB is the best GPU if you need mobo only power, otherwise you obviously wouldn't be considering a GPU like that. You8 can get a 2060 used for a little over $100
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>>101181753
>Why would you be looking at a 1650 anyway?
Trying to do the impossible and hunt down a single slot GPU for a reasonable price (equally impossible). The RX 6400 is another overpriced piece of shit that floods this category, but it is useless due to the lack of features like hardware encoding unlike the RX 550.
>You can get a 2060 used for a little over $100
Lol, no. They're $150-$200 minimum. The 3050 is even more expensive.
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>>101181753
>Can't use adaptive sync
Am I the only one here who has never ever actually used anything other than a bog standard 60 Hz display? Never used or even seen Adaptive Sync in action. Using an LG 24MP55HQ and BenQ PD2700Q as my primary displays.
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I just built my system and I have a b650 motherboard, and the CPU and DRAM lights are on when I turn it on and won't go into BIOS
I checked online, is this supposed to be memory training? How long does this usually take? I've been waiting about 10 minutes by now and haven't gotten anything
I know that my CPU and RAM are fine, because I was able to boot into BIOS before by removing one of my 2 sticks of RAM, but now when I try it it doesn't work, just the CPU and DRAM lights stay on
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>>101176844
>>101176958
why is choosing thermal goo this hard bros?
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>>101181276
Which car you stole it from?
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>>101182039
Indium is always solid state tho?
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any way to avoid gpu's that were used for mining ? or just always buy brand new
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>>101181893
$115, sold today
https://www.ebay.com/itm/375496846337?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true
If you're not in the USA, fuck off retard
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>>101182171
>If you're not in the USA, fuck off retard
yeehaw murica fuck yeah amirite
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>>101182151
nvidia gpu is likely to be mined on, amd gpu is likely to be gamed on.
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>>101182190
during the mining boom people used a shitton of gcn cards for mining
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>>101182201
we're assuming you're talking about modern gpus architectures (rtx/rdna) not gtx/gcn.
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Why are ITX cases, despite probably costing less resources and materials to make, more expensive on average than regular sized cases?
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>>101182171
>bidding war
>not factoring shipping or taxes
wew lad
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>>101182228
Because they are non-standard and require much more r&d to make not shit and also troons will pay more for them
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>>101182151
Look for slightly newer gen card like rx 6600 and avoid older gen, even if they are mining card, they are likely mined for only a short time before the mining bust
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>>101182232
The $115 is including shipping
Taxes are almost never included in the sticker price in the USA, and certainly not when the price of graphics cards are discussed
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>>101182171
>calling other builders retards for not living in the US
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>>101182254
That actually sounds retarded unless you pay zero taxes
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>>101182228
ITX board & case manufacturers need to collect a higher premium to offset the lower sales volume
There has to be enough profit from tooling a smaller-scale production compared to a 4000D.
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>>101182256
I'm calling him a retard for not stating his region. Even retard OP includes this line
>State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
because it's assumed you're in the USA otherwise
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>>101182332
A lot of places in the USA don't have sales tax, and sales tax isn't uniform when it is applied
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>>101170717
Anyone here use qd-oled 1440p on linux? How is the text rendering?
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>>101182039
thermal goo is a solved problem. you want something that doesn't pump out, lasts a long time, and performs well. mx-6 according to arctic lasts for 8 years after its applied which is about the time you upgrade your hardware. if you want to go the extra step theres ptm which lasts forever.
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does anyone have experience with Deepcool AK500S?
thinking of buying one
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>>101182440
>mx-6 according to arctic lasts for 8 years
pretty sure that's the advertised shelve storage time
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>>101182608
MX-6 and MX-4 both state they can last up to 8 years "after application". If you properly store it with the cap on it will last forever.
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>>101182590
Based ruskie supporter
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What size of PTM7950 do I need to cover Intel's heatspreader?
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Need a low profile PCIe wifi card. Was looking at this on amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NFMSGGR/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Is there a better option on the used market? This is for a emulation box SFF PC.
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>>101182022
> I was able to boot into BIOS before by removing one of my 2 sticks of RAM, but now when I try it it doesn't work
Of course not. Always clear CMOS after changing DIMMs or CPU to reset BIOS to default values. Default means the BIOS does not expect a configuration it learned before. Once you found your optimal settings for a specific hardware configuration save them to a USB stick so you can just load them in after a reset instead of dial in all 9000 settings manually again.
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>>101182228
Profit margin
Catering to niche market often requires higher price tag because the product sells less.
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>>101181382
They are both made in China. But the Pure Power at least was "engineered" in Germonkey by Germonkeys.
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>>101182081
It looks like a Watercool Mora "Monster Radiator".
I have such a beast, used it for 10 years but no more.
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>>101182853
I don’t know about pure power but my 850x psu said made in Vietnam
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>>101182709
Get a 80x80 sheet and eyeball cut it to size.
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>>101182899
Ooops! Didn't expect that. But my Pure Power is made in China.
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Has anyone had experience with the fractal terra case? Is it a relatively easy case to build in?
Going to be moving to a new place for only a year, so I sort of want a small case that I want to be able to just conveniently bring back afterward.
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Will any surge protector be good or is there something I need to look out for?
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steam sales
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>>101183208
I've been using the same surge protector from radioshack for almost 20 years now without failure.
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Another Massive Disappointment (AMD)
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>>101170726
20A is the future
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>>101183313
No Vidya (NVIDIA)
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>>101183451
malding amd fan lmao
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> drive for 6 hours to go to some store
https://youtube.com/shorts/9J47Hxo2EC0

Why mutts always mention micro center? But every time I see information about it people driving there for hours.
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Hey anons, please help me understand what's wrong.
I bought a used CPU and a new PSU. Installed everything, but the computer doesn't boot nor beep, it just manages to turn on, and the red light next to the power button does never blinks, just stays continuously on, even though it usually blinks.
GPU's fan spins, cooler's fan spins, PSU's fan spins, so I presume they are working alright. What I'm wondering is if the CPU is the culprit or if I might have fucked the RAM, because I took it out and used a brush on it due to dust.
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>Fiber optic cpus
>Better bandwidth
>Higher energy efficieny
>Lower latencyy
>Longer reach
2024 is the year of Intel
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>>101183576
>I bought a used CPU
You better have buyer protection on that thing.
Check the debug LEDs on the motherboard. Try using only one memory module, it's usually recommended to install single stick in A2 (depends on manufacturer).
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>>101183549
I been there, its really nice. Its a really quiet and clean place and everything in it is just tech stuff. It's a type of store you really don't see anywhere so you're just kinda of amazed by it. Its really hard to describe it, you really have to visit it to understand.
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>>101180157
>he didnt buyed the noctua©™ nt-h2®™ am5 edition with the fool proof paste guard that keeps cpu clean no matter what
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>>101183576
Have you tried unslotting and slotting the RAM sticks? I've had to do that once or twice to get a new PC up and running for the first time.
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>>101183615
>>101183549
I think a better way to describe it for you is if you imagine its just you and maybe a few employees at a large store just dedicated to selling anime figures. Its just kinda wild
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>>101183615
Yeah but do they have a diorama of ancient Aztecs offering PC hardware as tribute to their gods? Fry's was pretty awesome before they just started stocking pallets of water and washing machines.
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>>101183594
Yeah thanfully I have protection.
I'll try to put the stick on A2 and see if anything changes.
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>>101182619
so how much i need for am5? is 2g tube enough?
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>>101183647
Give the system a minute or two to initially train the memory.
I'm guessing you reverted BIOS settings to defaults before you upgraded the CPU.
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>>101183682
I don't think I changed the bios, just took the old CPU off the socket and installed the used one in its place. The bios is already updated to support this used CPU
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>>101183578
>Intel 18A
>RibbonFET
>CFET
>HighNA
>Foveros Direct
>Quasi-Monolithic
>Glass Substrate
>Fiber Optics
Intel == Innovation
AMD can't keep up
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>>101180157
You sure you don't happen to be a pajeet?
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>>101183746
>OMG INTEL INOVASHUN
Great
Their consumer products suck
I'm upgrading soon and I'm not even considering the platform
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>>101183796
Believe in Arrow Lake. In 20A, We Trust
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>>101183647
Turns out the mobo only has A1 and B1. Tested the stick in both, still no boot or beep, and the red light continues the same.
I'll try reinstalling my old CPU later and report back.
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>>101183664
sure
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Frozen Edge or LF III for a 360 AIO?
Leaning towards Arctic but it seems like the Frozen Edge is better (at least for the 240 variants).
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>>101183852
I would get neither, I would get an air cooler
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>New mobo will launch 2 months later
sounds to me like amd is rushing zen5 out the door presumably because they fear arrowlake
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>>101183957
AMD on 5nm is still struggling to grab market share when intel is on 7nm. intel on 2nm will be a death blow to amd
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>>101183451
Why can't Nvidia make reliable GPUs?
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>>101183957
Why would anyone buy Zen 5 now when you're stuck with last gen boards and no X3D?
wtf is AMD doing?
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>>101183957
This seems like AMD asking for trouble for its board partners, as there's no guarantee whatever board the customer gets will have an updated BIOS, and plenty of retards don't know about flashing
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>>101183576
What CPU and motherboard? Have you updated the bios?
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>>101183957
Computex 2024:
>camm mobo shown exclusively on Intel mobo
>cudimm mobo shown exclusively on Intel mobo
>backside power still exclusively on Intel mobo (despite being 2 years already)
>more arrowlake mobo than zen5 mobo
>All of this while intel releases months later
Computex 2024 showed us one thing: no one wants to make AMD motherboard. All the manufacturer are lining up behind Intel because they know once arrowlake is out, no one will buy amd anymore.
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>>101183957
Based
It only shows how flexible their platform is for not needing new boards for new CPUs to work
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>>101183957
That's because zen5 is just copy and paste from zen4 with most of the ipc work done by tsmc. amd right now is very reminiscent of intel during skylake era with 0 innovation
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>>101184079
amd bros not like this
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>>101184079
The only GPUs I've ever seen flat out die were AMD, in fact my old 6870 also killed my motherboard and PSU in the process
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>>101184027
>no one wants to make AMD motherboard
Socket longevity is probably one of the reasons
It's great for the consumer who doesn't have to buy a new motherboard every second generation like on Intel's side.
But it screws the board manufacturers because now they have to support their older boards for longer and they can't even guarantee additional board sales when people upgrade within the same socket.
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>>101184157
amd cope. Intelchads gets all the cool new things while amd fans gets to play in the mud
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RDNA3 DOA
RDNA4 DOA
RDNA5 and beyond will all be doa
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>>101184239
Tel Aviv good
India bad
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>>101184255
yes?
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>>101184257
It wasn't a question that needed an answer
It was a statement of fact
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im gonna install win 11
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>>101184299
just remember to not pay microsoft and get it for free
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>>101184307
I bought a set of 25 numbers from a 3rd party site for win 10 and itll work on 11 as well
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>>101184313
>I bought
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>>101184299
I hate Qt6. All my favorite applications are moving to being written with it which makes them incompatible with Win7, so I'll probably be forced to upgrade to Win11 next build.
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>>101184328
I dont have the technical skills to tell which windows unlocker torrent is safe and which are just trojans that send my every keypress to china/russia
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>>101184349
https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

this is all you need. thank me later
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what are the chances my Windows might be underperforming if I've been using the same install since 2015
I reused the same ssd going from the 4790k to the 3700x and copied the image to my current nvme
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>bought a case with THREE 5.25" bays
idk what to put there
do i buy an optical drive and throw it in for the hell of it?
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>>101183981
> AMD on 5nm is still struggling to grab market share when intel is on 7nm. intel on 2nm will be a death blow to amd
Cope
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>>101181254
I'm not sure what in my post made you think I was debating between 1440 and 4k but I guess reading is pretty tough these days



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