First for Lion Cove and CHADmont

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HDR sisters, is it worth upgrading to windows 11?

>>101184417
Booba

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I want to centre my next PC build around this little PSU pic rel.
It's a 600W flexATX.
I currently have a 5800X and RX6600XT. I was thinking of going for an R7900 but not sure which GPU to go with. Ideally it would be sub 200W and I'd prefer to stick with AMD.
I'll probably keep the 6600XT for now if AMD are coming out with new cards this year.

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>>101184417
Is that a Kuromi Exhaust Case fan? Damn the airflow impedance, give it to me.

>>101184417
Booba
>>101184429
ESTROmont*

Wait for 9800x3D or get a 7800x3D now?

>>101184443
that thing looks like it's gonna be loud as hell just like the 1U server PSUs it resembles. 40mm fans are like that

>>101184499
Its 3 months away

>>101184417
>2160p: RX 7900XT
>next to a 4080 super
Who keeps letting this retard post

>>101184417
>Gpu
>recommending any amd
Retard

>>101183981
> AMD on 5nm is still struggling to grab market share when intel is on 7nm. intel on 2nm will be a death blow to amd
Cope harder

>>101184555
>>101184529
It seems Intel clowns just choose to shitpost

>>101184417
>>101184445
SSRI ass thread

Hey /pcbg/, I don't understand much about motherboards. Think you can tell me if the board "Asus PRIME A520M-A II" supports legacy mode and/or UEFI mode for the BIOS?
My current old board only supports legacy for example, and the USB I made on /fwt/ to install windows is currently on legacy mode. I'm wondering if this USB will work for the A520M-A II or I will need to redo it on Rufus again on a different mode, can anyone here tell me?
[spoiler]Please help /fwt/ wasn't very helpful...[/spoiler]

>Web browsing: i3 12100/5600G
>5600G
I literally use this with a 6600 and play everything in ultra at 1080p

I installed win11
its like, random ui changes and I cant move taskbar to the left to save on space
cool I guess

>>101184515
Haven't seen anyone complain about sound, should be running without the fan most the time anyway.
The power estimate I got with PCPP for a 7900, 6600xt, 2TB m.2 and 64GB RAM was ~400W which is a good spot for efficiency

>>101184852
> cant move taskbar to the left
Skill issue

Is the 5800x3d and 4070 ok for moderate gaming? I know AM4 is an older platform but I feel like this will be sufficient for a couple of years until I start an AM5 build...

>>101184929
No, won't even get 10fps in solitaire

>>101184938
Gutted. On a side note, can you build me a new PC? I'd pay you in cash and blowjobs.

>>101184951
14000KS + 5090
>now pay up and open up

>>101184929
if you have am4 then 5700x3d is the easy option
am5 doesnt bring in that big fps increases for the money, you know they still make games for xbox series S so the devs arent gonna go and require 30gb of ddr5 ram to launch their games

>>101184929
unless you have a strange definition of moderate it should be plenty

>>101184955
Id prefer a 7800x3d & 5080. What country are you in?

>>101184987
I'm a new PC newb. Was told AM4 is old now, so wasn't sure if that would be sufficient. Good to get some positive reinforcement I made the right choice. Cheers.

>>101184430
Yes. HDR real good. Auto HDR also good.

>>101184703
Yes it should support it, modulo some fuckery with integrated graphics, but you should use UEFI anyway unless you're doing something particular.

is the 4070 super worth the extra $60 and -4gb vram loss over the 7900 GRE?

I have an ancient 212evo and the fan brackets have shat the bed long before now, had them 3d printed couple years back to replace
now I'll probably have to yet again touch those pieces of shit to change the fans back to that stock shit, to sell the whole build
if not a single pair of brackets survive, can I use those wire fan mounts like every other cooler has for the past 10 or more years, or is the 212evo heatsink not compatible with those?
are they even standartised or are those wire mounts exclusive to every manufacturer?

>>101185034
The base raster performance is similar enough that you're not going to notice so the question is mostly a matter of whether you prefer DLSS+RT or 16GB VRAM (plus $60). I think that most users would want the former, after all $60 isn't much when you're in the $600 price bracket, but if you've got specific plans then 16GB might be desirable. They're both good GPUs so don't overthink it.

>>101185034
Depends on what you're doing with it, the 7900 GRE is better for gaming without ray tracing. The 4070 Super is better for gaming with ray tracing

>>101185115
>>101185121
I legit dont even know what ray tracing is other than some lighting shadows and reflections. I guess I'll go with the super to experience something new.

>>101185034
>>101185142
ray tracing is a meme
4gb vram and $60 arent

>>101184990
u r not a hot girl anon , so no

>>101185142
>don't know what something is
>I'll pay my own money and gimp my memory to test this unknown "technology"
weird, but you do you

>>101185218
RT is whatever but Path Tracing is quite insane, depending on resolution the VRAM might forever be pointless except in the 2 or 3 unoptimized/specific games that would benefit from it.

I think there's an argument to be made about more VRAM being useless if the card itself can't even run games maxed out due to the RT performance.
Then again a 4070 Super probably shits itself with PT, so maybe it's all just for 1k+ GPUs.

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Is it a good time to change platform for AM5?

I could sell my 5800X3D/ram/mobo and upgrade to a 7800x3D for like 300€ which I feel isn't too bad, but I'm not sure how much of a performance increase I'd be looking at.

For example I've been playing a ton of CP2077 (with PT and DLSS/FG) recently but sometimes my base FPS dips under 60 with a 4080S making Frame Gen feel kinda laggy, would the 7800x3D bring enough performance to fix that?

>>101185142
Here's a QRD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyfTPG-dwOE
It's basically a lighting engine that works more like the real world. Much more realistic but also extremely computationally expensive. Enabling a "heavier" implementation will tank your FPS by 50% or more. Not good, obviously, but it is almost the only area where graphical fidelity is improving in a non-marginal way. Every other method - textures, LOD, draw distance, etc. - hit diminishing returns a while ago so, if you're a graphicsfag, RT is /the/ way to get your fix.
As for the 4070/S, I think it's the lowest card tier where you can enable RT without serious compromises like DLSS Balanced or low raster settings. That's what makes the comparison with the GRE more interesting than other tiers. Below it you're looking at <60 across the board with any sort of RT so Nvidia loses that edge. Above it you run into diminishing returns on your FPS - 150 isn't that much smoother than 100 so AMD's superior raster value is less meaningful. Ultimately it's a judgement call. Go watch some comparison videos to see if the FPS drop is worth the fidelity improvement.

>>101185444
Are you sure the dips are caused by the CPU? I could see even a 4080S being swamped by a heavy PT scene. I suppose even if they are it's hard to justify spending $300 to fix a relatively minor issue with one game.

>>101185444
5800X3D to 7800X3D isn't worth it. At least wait for the the 9800X3D to launch in a few months (rumors right now are September) to jump on AM5 and replace your whole platform.

>>101185444
isnt cp really well optimized for cpus
at least digital foundry videos make it seem so

>>101185515
>Are you sure the dips are caused by the CPU?
I don't know, I guess that's also why I'm asking.
I've heard the 5800x3D might be bottlenecking the 4080 Super in certain games so I was thinking maybe the 7800x3D could help.
>even if they are it's hard to justify spending $300 to fix a relatively minor issue with one game
Sure, I just planned on upgrading my whole PC this year hence why I'm considering it right now.
CP2077 still runs incredibly well, I've mostly noticed the performance degrading after a few hours of playtime which then leads to some dips.

>>101185520
>9800X3D to launch in a few months (rumors right now are September)
If it's that close I'll wait I guess, are there rumors of the expected performance increase?

>>101185538
No idea, I would assume at 1440p the difference might be more subtle but nobody benchmarks CP2077 with PT enabled or in the latest patches.

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>>101185608

>>101185608
You should check first. Go get Rivatuner and look at your utilizations in those scenes where it drops below 60. A CPU bottleneck usually manifests as a generally uneven FPS - consistent drops in graphically demanding scenes are usually down to the GPU (though with PT it can be either).
In any case, I'd wait for the 9800X3D at least. 5800X3D to 7800X3D is only a ~20% jump which is pretty marginal in the grand scheme. Like it would help in this one scenario, assuming it is the CPU's fault, but spending all that for one game is, again, questionable.

>>101185043
>fan bracket
>212

wire fan clip are universal it should be works.


but i recommend for silicone rubber fan mounting

just force slide rubber into tiny gap heatsink

>>101185490
thanks

>>101185655
Do you have the same chart but with CPUs?

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>>101185608
>>101185798
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/20.html
>If it's that close I'll wait I guess, are there rumors of the expected performance increase?
AMD already let be known that Zen 5 has a 16% IPC improvement over Zen 4 @ Computex (but with no increase in core count or clockspeeds).
If we take the relative improvement from Zen 3 to Zen 4 X3D chips as a guide (~20%) it seems reasonable that'd stack another ~20% improvement in gaming from Zen 4 to Zen 5 X3D chips. In other words, going from Zen 3 to Zen 5 should gain about 40% in games theoretically.

>>101185267
But I can suck better then a hot girl.

>>101185882
How do you know? Can you self suck?

any tips for painting a PNY XLR8 GPU white?

I'm using DDR5, some software, like Ryzen master, is reporting that they're clocked to 3000 MHz, this means they're at 6000 MHz, right? Theyre 6000CL30, I turned on AMD expo, I vaguely remember it's normal for software to report ram speeds as lower than they are for whatever reason

Any news on when the next generation of GPUs are coming out?

My 1070's fans are dying

>>101186946
The 50 series is looking like dogshit and AMD is not going high end anymore so I'd say settle for a 4080 or something you want

>>101186975
>Believing everything he sees on the internet

radeon driver now only support rdna1 2 and 3

>>101184195
>amd cope that intel wont have another socket 2011 or lga775 moment
ok retard

>>101184721
I use a Haswell Celeron on my laptop and I can browse the web just fine

>>101186850
Take the cooler off the PCB and spray-paint it?

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Ran out of money, do I buy the 1440p slop in 2024 or do I save and buy something later?
Is the 4k meme worth it?
>Forced to use windows scaling and make everything blurry
>Deal with the DSC/Blackscreen alt tab aids due to bandwidth cuckery and other cable related black screen bugs due to screens not being ready
>Pay more for this
on the other hand, can just buy and use a full bandwidth 48gbs hdmi 2.1 4k monitor which would not use DSC
at this point one might just go back to OLED TVs in all honesty you get hdmi 2.1 and 144hz if you don't need the 240hz and paying twice the price

>>101187196
What is your current setup and monitor?

Currently stuck between choosing a Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 32 inch (currently $450, down from $1,100...) or going for a GIGABYTE M27U or LG27GR. $500 is the the budget. Anyone have any insights on this?

Strong opinions on the Samsung's curve or response times or anything?

>>101187328
Between the LG27GR & M27U IPS options, I'd pick the LG on account of having full bandwidth HDMI to carry the 4K signal without resorting to DSC and also having a a bit better viewing angles and uniformity.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/gigabyte-m27u-vs-lg-27gr93u-b/39714/40716?usage=4112&threshold=0.10

Comparing the LG IPS vs. Samsung VA, I personally hate curved displays for the geometric distortion they bring. Basically, the VA will have better contrast, worse viewing angles, and less clarity from worse pixel density (32" vs 27"). See here:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/samsung-odyssey-neo-g7-s32bg75-vs-lg-27gr93u-b/33691/40716?usage=4112&threshold=0.10

If you crave for the better contrast of VA and already are willing to the spend up to $500, I wouldn't settle for the inherent drawbacks of LCD and save up a few hundred dollars more and get a 4K OLED around Amazon Prime Day/Black Friday/Christmas when they are likely to see sales. Otherwise, I'd stick wioth the cheaper LG 4K IPS.

miss PowerPC
miss MIPs
miss RISC-V8

>>101187196
24in 1440p makes me feel like a king. If they ever make a 24in 4k I'll consider upgrading in a couple years but right now I'm in kinotown.

>>101187272
I have no (modern) monitors been on a single laptop screen for too long
might be used for ps5 too
I stopped using scaling because of the blurry shit in windows too
these panels are literally free though almost
choices, chioces
>>101187579
you can get away not using scaling there, 24 4k you gonna have to use alot
niche panel

>>101187513
This has helped a lot. Thank you very much.

>>101186531
I've made straight men cum. I have a dick, so I know what feels good.

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Nvidia is build on gimmicky features.
AMD is build on real performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khomsd40V2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO4NYf-JWtM

Like I said last thread, the supposed massive image quality improvements of FSR3.1 are a complete nothingburger. It doesn't look better. It's a sidegrade to FSR2.2's upscaler in the best scenario, and 2.2 was already a sidegrade to 2.1.

The real good stuff of FSR3.1 is decoupling the frame generation from the upscaler. Meaning you can combine XESS/DLSS upscaling with FSR frame generation, their frame generation is pretty good honestly.

>>101188070
It's open source human code running on general purpose shader units (FSR) vs proprietary machine learned code running on specialized AI cores (DLSS).

>>101187328
...what is the monitor for?
4k is shit for gaming because you need expensive gpu for it
VA is obviously superior to media consumption that an ips with shit contrast
The curve is bad if you cant somehow view it straight ahead, but its fine if you use the pc normally.

>>101188093
Doesn't change the fact AMD themselves advertised 3.1 as a large upscaler quality upgrade over 2.2.

>>101188112
FSR quality is dev dependant just as DLSS is. 3.1 is only in Nixxes games which aren't exactly good ports (they need several patches just to not crash on Nvidia or load worse than AMD) DLSS is god awful in FFXIV dawntrail. FSR is better in No Mans Sky.

>>101184417
I don't feel like dealing with the Facebook marketplace lottery, and I dont want to spend $500 plus tax on a new mini PC.

Is there a small, cheap build I could do for a router running pfsense? Under $400?

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I've been planning an upgrade, but after getting some money today been thinking if I really need it. Honest opinions?

>>101188411
Don't think just buy

>>101188411
if your gaymes run like shit upgrade, if not, dont

>>101188137
>FSR quality is dev dependant just as DLSS is.
There's a reason why Starfield's official FSR implementation, for which AMD engineers worked together with Bethesda to implement in the game, looks worse than a DLSS mod that was created an hour after the game's release.

Is Intel sandbagging Arrow Lake IPC?

>>101188583
Highly likely

>>101188622
If they are Intel could have a really good opportunity to make it if they also have some extra longevity for the new motherboard socket.

>>101188044
AMD is built upon cheap PCBs that are easy to break and impossibly difficult to repair.

>>101188565
Bethesda are incompetent devs. Starfield was blunder of the century. Walmart has to burn physical copies or send them to the landfill like Atari E.T. to clear up inventory.

>>101188715
Just don't buy XFX. Stick to Sapphire/Powercolor.
https://youtu.be/y3uh7s3Scuo
https://youtu.be/GS35VHEfFDU

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/s/LFVVxuHYSU
>making jokes about tits bad
>but raging at them and insulting people good
I regret even posting my submission to this sub
What a joke

What are the cheapest and most quiet keyboards I can buy with media and volume controls?

>>101188757
anon why
you brought this on yourself

>>101188232
bump

What are the fastest USB flash drives I can buy on the market right now? I don't need anything particularly large in capacity, I'd lake anything from 8 to 64GB as long as the speeds are actually constrained by the USB interface.

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>They payed for an overpriced green card with a technology that will now be irrelevant because the competition is open sourced
Meanwhile 4 less VRAM will force you to buy another GPU in 2 years max, even though you wasted up to 600+ bucks(more than a fucking console that has almost 16 total VRAM nowadays) and less rasterization.
l
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lotta amd salesmen itt

>>101188849
External SSDs are a thing now. I've heard good things about the XS2000 by Kingston. At the same time, I'm also wondering what happened to eSATA and just using regular off the shelf SSDs and connecting them that way or via some SATA to USB adapter.

If I want to upgrade my CPU I will need to use an AIO. Redpill me on them. I'm thinking Lian LI's Galahad thing. I am terrified of leaks thoughever.

>>101188874
You have to understand, technoverse is the most buring fucking hobby and scene imaginable. Only the most boring fucking nerds participate in it consistently. Most of the people build a PC once in a while and fuck off from these threads and unsubscribe from the top 10 tech youtube channels.
There's literally nothing to talk about besides, green vs blue vs red, lmao gossip/drama, BREAKING NEWS new tech 5% increase in performance on 3$furryM4rk, 125more W usage, 220$ cost increase

>>101188883
Lian Li is goat
Don't listen to antirgb manchildren or Corsair salemen

AIO's are much easier to manage than open loops and perform better than aircooling

>>101188928
Is it true that you have to replace AIOs every 3 or so years?

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>>101188883
Leaks don't happen, they are a boomer meme from like 2011.
Lian Li is shit, check their reddit, shit is breaking every 3months.
So far if you really care about performance it goes like this EK Lux giga price performance - Artic 420 giga cheap with included a mandatory cpu bracket

Is there a way to get a front mesh panel on the Phanteks NV7? It looks like the perfect case.

>>101188860
>a fucking console that has almost 16 total VRAM nowadays
retard
You do realize video games use RAM as well, right?

>>101188936
I didn't need to

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This is the worst thing I've ever seen.

>>101184417
Can anyone recommend a good full build? I got money and im lazy to build shit. Was looking at one of those Legion Towers, are there other good companies that make full builds?

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>>101188881
>buying external SSDs when you can just get a SATA to USB adapter and use it on a normal SSD
give me one reason why I can't just use an adapter on a normal drive or shuck one out of an external hdd
pic related

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im not under standing the fan config in cases like this.

is this better than having fans in the front?

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>>101189149
right as I say that this piece of shit powers on the drives I connect to them but none of them wind up being detected by the OS
fucking seagate crappy ass parts

>>101189149
Because the fast SSDs nowadays are m.2 and need at least passive cooling. You could roll your own by buying an enclosure and some thermal pads, but unlike SATA SSDs they're not nice and safely enclosed in a metal case so you'd have to store them in ESD bags.

>>101188860
Truth remains the 7900XTX costs $900 and can barely keep up with the 3080 Ti/3090 in ray tracing.
>who cares about ray tracing
someone buying a $900 GPU

>>101189175
Its fucking AIR man, do you know the amount that is being pumped in that bitch by those 30mm turbines?

>>101184417
The fuck is with this trend of cramming a shitload of fans into cases now? Is it to counteract the shit heat transfer of all that glass? Or is it some poorfag imitation of LED water cooling?

>>101189218
ai post

>>101189213
It still scores less than the lancool 3

>>101189230
How about A I shove my foot up your ass?

>>101184417
>>101189218
Speaking of, you guys have any ATX case recommendations without those faggy glass panels?

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>>101189304

>>101189304
Fractal's Define cases. Though those are technically capable of fitting an E-ATX board so they're a bit large.

>>101189240
Because they fill out those cases with like 3 fucking fans for tests, nobody who buys NV7 is going to use only 3 fans

>>101189509
Fair. I think I'll be getting an NV9. It's going to be full of gen 2 noctua 140mm fans. I will be the aircooliest.

>>101189520
Careful, that shit will take off with your house

>>101189541
I want to go with either the 9000 series or intel's arrow lake, depending on which one is better. Do you think realistically I'd be able to cool intel's new shit with an nh-d15? I'm pretty sure I'll be able to with amd's stuff.

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5700X: 65 Watts
7700X: 105 Watts
9700X: 120 Watts

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>>101189304
Yes, the Fractal Torrent has two 180mm fans in the front and three 140/120 in the bottom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EMsPkBjqCQ this case is insaneo mode i can't believe tech jesus hasn't even talked about it yet.

They jacked up the prices on the microcenter bundles. The 7700x one is up $40.

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>>101184529
Fine wine

>>101189612
>Where AIO fractal?

>>101189313
Fuck me do I hate that I ever bought a Coolermaster case - the stupid rubberized coating went bad after a few years, became a horribly sticky mess that was impossible to remove and accumulated all kinds of nasty shit. Never again.

>>101189482
>>101189612
Should have mentioned I was looking on the budget end (I'm not paying 150+ for a metal box).

>>101189641
almost same as my HAF X

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>>101189834
Yes it is more on expensive side, but when you consider two 180mm fans and three bottom ones it's fine, also you could find alternative here.

>>101189834
Then buy an ancient dell shitbox off ebat and use that as a donor.

>>101189834
Fractal Focus 2 or Pop Air are more affordable cases with solid side panels, but they aren't very spacious.

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Steam Support officially recommends enabling G-Sync, V-Sync, and NVIDIA Reflex for CS2.
This combination presents the smoothest visuals & low input latency.
It's in-line with Blur Busters' G-Sync recommendations.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/418E-7A04-B0DA-9032
https://blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/14/

>>101188757
holy coomer
>>101188766
don't all keyboards have that with function keys now?
sound eh
>>101188883
if you can tolerate some throttling or don't run housefire cpus you don't need to run aio
>>101189018
swapping to ram because you run out of vram is not good bro
>>101189641
>uglier more gigantic o11
slopcore
>>101189724
>considering buying non x3d ayymds
>>101190085
>run sync tech in esports running at 700fps but limit it to your slop monitor 144hz
need a 1000hz monitor first

>>101190085
>using V-sync with G-sync
Isn't the point of VRR/G-sync that your GPU tells your monitor when to refresh instead of waiting for vblank?

>>101190085
I have never used a single G-Sync or FreeSync monitor in my life. I have focused more on power efficiency and image quality/color accuracy on IPS displays than gaming. I still use a regular 60Hz 1080p 5ms display for eShit. How much am I missing out?

>>101190165
>How much am I missing out?
Do you get screen tearing and does it bother you?

>>101190128
>need a 1000hz monitor first
You need to be a better gamer before refresh rate is the genuine limiting factor.
Post your competitive rankings & disclose your professional offers.

>>101190131
Read the technical explanation.

>>101190186
>You need to be a better gamer before refresh rate is the genuine limiting factor.
When I went from 60hz to 144hz I noticed a massive improvement in my performance, not a pro or anything but it sure is satisfying to do better when I play multiplayer shooters.

>>101188860
>>101190128
consoles have 16gb for everything, os, game logic, background tasks like recording, and then game graphics
you're free to be a retard and think everything before game graphics uses 0mb, or even 4gb

>>101190170
>Do you get screen tearing and does it bother you?
For whatever reason the only time I can ever recall noticing screen tearing was in Mirror's Edge and in some other UE3 games.

>>101190131
VRR/G-Sync has no effect when the game's rendering fps above your monitor's refresh rate, this is where screen tearing & microstutters manifest and you want v-sync to deal with it.
You enable NVIDIA Reflex to practically eliminate the input latency introduced with v-sync.

>>101190207
That faggot's talking about needing a 1000Hz monitor, not 144Hz.

Once you above 60hz, you can never go back. This is the tradeoff of 120, 144, 240, 360. Ignorance is bliss. If you never experience it you will never miss it. But if you do, you will only look upon 60hz, and possibly 1080p monitors with nothing but disgust forever.

It is further made worse by 1080p/60 GPUs still being made a thing for some reason.

Best controller? Debating between Xbox elite and PS5 dual sense but are there others I should be considering

>>101190310
/pcbg/?

>>101189960
That's the thing, I already have plenty of good fans. Guess I'll give that list a browse, thanks.

>>101189963
Unironically thought about that, but the cost of shipping kinda defeats the purpose. Not to mention all the weird proprietary shit Dell/HP like to do.

>>101190310
One with a gyroscope, using a controller on a PC means you have a moral duty to make gyro aiming the standard so that aim assist can stop existing.

>>101189186
this kind of adapter only works with 2.5" drives, because usb only provides 5v while 3.5" and cd/dvd drives need 12v to work.

>>101190285
Is 144hz more important than 1440p?

>>101190399
Depends on what you prefer of course. I'm a framerate guy and I don't give a shit if I have to make my game look like a potato to achieve 240fps. Other people just want to play Skyrim with texture mods and stuff. Basically resolution matters more for graphicsfags.

>>101190399
You want at least gaming 165/180Hz monitors in '24 since they're affordable, +240Hz for higher-end monitors.
144Hz are older models, these may or may not have better image quality (DYOR).
Very few gamers are good enough to make the most out of higher than 240Hz refresh rate monitors.

>>101189212
No, only people who pay over $2k care about RT

>>101190165
I mean skills are more important than hz but you realize everyone is playing on 500hz and you have like a 20ms built in monitor penalty against your opponents
if you play FPS slopshit that is
slow ancient monitor and pixel response times + built in insane latency due to 60hz
in short you are decade(s) behind
>>101190186
>You need to be a better gamer before refresh rate is the genuine limiting factor.
>Post your competitive rankings & disclose your professional offers.
if you can't understand that locking down fps to your monitor refresh when you play eShit that runs at 700fps *IF* your monitors is kinda slow hz you are fucking yourself, there is no point in having a discussion with you
even boomers who don't play games (steve HWUB) doesn't approve of this shit
if you have a 540hz maybe
how shit your skills were not taking into account, by that account people should play at 60hz until they cap out their skills at this level too and this is fine
>>101190209
if you run out of vram you are already fucked
>>101190257
no, the point was not to lock down 700fps to 144fps due to your shit monitor, nobody plays like this
unless the engine is shit and has limits ofcourse
using sync tech in esports only make sense with engine limits below your monitor hz or a 1000hz monitor yes indeed
>>101190285
fake, I can still play 60fps games
>>101190310
the comparision to the xbox elite would be the ps5 edge one, both cost a metric fuck ton and I would avoid them just for replacing them when they get stick drift o break and go with the vanilla versions though
but they have paddles and shit
xbox just works on windows, ps5 you need to install the ds4windows thingy and then things work
depends what layout you like more they are kind of almost the same shit
ps5 has potential for alot lower latency you can run like 1000hz polling on it and I think it has more sensitive analog sticks
>>101190399
60hz monitors are not even a consideration now a days and they are both cheap

I'm building a home server inside a NCASE M1 v6.1.
I need a single-slot GPU that I can use for Plex transcoding. Which one should I get?
It must be single slot because I will be printing these HDD brackets https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3922826

>>101190522
again, you have a right to be retarded, 1st amendment and all
unless the game involved is 8k ray tracing tic tac toe, everything not in game graphics is going to take a few gb of ram, even on consoles

>>101190399
Both are important
However, you can get the benefit of higher res (1440p and 2160p) on your monitor using DLDSR.
You can't do the same for 144 Hz.

>>101190522
Good of you to walk back your 1000Hz bullshit. I accept your concession.
+144Hz is enough for most people, very few players can take full advantage of +240Hz monitors.
Pros use +480Hz tournament grade monitors to get accustomed to the hardware and compete at an even footing.
Normies are nowhere near good enough for those monitors.

>>101190620
Your seething has been noted

13600 kf or 7600x for light gaming and web browsing?
The GPU I'm planning to get is an rx 6750xt because it's quite cheap.

>>101190728
7600 non-X unless the X is going for very little (you will also need to buy a cooler for the X). 13600K only if you want to also go ddr4 to save more money but at that point might as well consider AM4 too.

>>101190578
I'm derailed I don't even get what the argument is anymore
>>101190620
did not walk back anything, further clarified since you can't make logical assumptions using your limited brain power, not my problem
>+144Hz is enough for most people, very few players can take full advantage of +240Hz monitors.
>Pros use +480Hz tournament grade monitors to get accustomed to the hardware and compete at an even footing.
the point was not hz, the point was locking down 700fps to 144fps and thus handicapping you for no reason using shitty sync tech when there is no benefit as you can a benefit running higher fps on a lower hz monitor for ESHIT games
it's exhausting arguing with retards you have to walk them through every single step yet still they don't understand
the jews were right about you people ngl jesus fucking christ

>>101190873
>locking down 700fps
Gaining imperceptible latency advantage over visible screen tearing and microstutter is not a good trade off.
https://youtu.be/Fj-wZ_KGcsg

>>101190310
>Best controller?
Xbox controller, no contest.

Playstation controllers are a fucking disaster to get working because Sony intentionally makes it so. Random solodev tools that could lose support at any time and 'trust me bro' drivers are required to get a PS controller running + every game maps the buttons as Xbox by default anyway.

>>101189834
>Should have mentioned I was looking on the budget end (I'm not paying 150+ for a metal box).
Beggars can't be choosers bitch, suck it up and get the Montech Air 903 if you're a poorfag. High quality cases that buck trends (like a glass panel) are much more expensive.

You do not need more than mITX

>>101190570
Arc cards for Quicksync and AV1 encode maybe
Unless you're already using a newer Intel CPU with support for AV1 encoding in the iGPU

Why is 165hz a common monitor refresh rate? Who decided on this particular number instead of one that's a multiple of 30 or 24?

>>101191060
It's probably got to do with production costs & yield rates for higher refresh rate panels.

>>101191012
mini-STX with a 19V AC brick is the golden format

>>101184417
What is the modern gearcheck game, like Crysis was in the old days?

>>101191145
Crysis

>>101191145
Cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing

The CPU cooler market is fucking confusing to me. What's the best & most silent cooler for the 7800X3D?

>>101191145
Portal RTX

>>101191172
Just buy a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE

>>101189801
>fine wine
>doesn't include 1080ti
>doesn't include Radeon VII

>>101191172
>most silent cooler for the 7800X3D?
A 360 AIO, or even larger, doesn't matter
>the best
All of them are the same because the core is insulated under the cache layer and the heat can't reach the heat spreader. Buy the one with the least noise, in this case 360 (or larger) AIO.

>>101191007
>High quality cases that buck trends (like a glass panel) are much more expensive.
Yeah, unfortunately seems near impossible to avoid this narcissistic zoomer vanity shit on the low end. I'm not really like some of that high-end shit either - Fractal's stuff is all pretentious modern decor aesthetic, looks like Apple crap.

Fuck it, if I have to I'll just rip out one of those preening faggot windows and replace it with an aluminum sheet sprayed with appliance epoxy.

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>>101191212
The radeon vii is unobtanium.

>>101184417
>AVOID: Dark Rock Pro 4/5, Noctua
Been a few years since I built a pc and everybody was shilling noctua then, why avoid them now?

>>101191290
U12A is too expensive compared to its performance.
D15's successor is scheduled to be released next month.
There are two or three other Noctua coolers to consider for tighter case compatibility, but it's a niche product like the NH-D12L.

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in ASRock B650M-HDV/M2
can i install 1 ssd sata and 2 hdd ?

>>101191384
Yeah, it's got four SATA3 ports.
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B650M-HDVM.2/index.asp#Specification

>>101191290
>Dark Rock Pro 4/5, Noctua
Extortionately priced for no extra value. Don't get the SE versions of Thermalright either, they have shitty plastic mounting hardware. Get the Phantom Spirit or Phantom Spirit EVO, they have metal mounting hardware.

We really need a comprehensive paste to stop wasting bumps with these same questions

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>>101189801
>muh cherrypicks
Keep in mind that Radeon users are forced to use garbage FSR

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>mfw looking at the number of SATA/USB ports/PCIe slots on current motherboards

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>>101191490
>USB-C
What am I meant to do with this?

>>101191490
you will have 1 pcie x16 slot and 5 m.2 slots for $500 and you will be happy

>>101190570
An Arc A380 is probably all you need, good video encoding/decoding and low power draw.

>>101190165
>>101190241
If you play competitive FPS games, you should be using at least a 144Hz monitor.
I'm guessing third-world net cafes use at least a 120Hz monitor.
144Hz gaming monitors have been overtaken by 165 & 180Hz budget products like the Dell G2724D.

Is 1080p still fine for a 27" monitor?

I've been using the Fractal Design Define R4 for my current build. Is there any upgrade in terms of noise/airflow or is it good enough to keep using?

>>101191614
I'd go with 1440p resolution for that monitor size.

>>101191614
It was never fine

>>101191614
I'd rather go for 24-25" at 1080p for the pixel density.

Is 720p for a 1280x720 still fine?
Because there's someone in this thread who is using that right NOW.

>>101191619
R5 actually, now that I'm looking again.

>>101191682
>Is 720p for a 1280x720
What?

Typically, how long after the next gen GPUs are launched is the previous gen no longer readily available to buy from non-scam sites?

>>101191619
>>101191683
Keep using it.

>>101191717
until stock dries up which is unknown and depends on the model. you can still buy rx 6800 brand new for example from xfx despite amd and others no longer making them.

>>101191712
Meant 16:9

i bought everything new except for the drive because i was planning to use my old SSD
this shouldnt be an issue, right? anything i shoukd be aware of?

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Day 449 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>101191776
lol
lmao

Speaking of resolutions, since 1080p is 1/4 of 4k, does it mean that a 27" 4k screen running at 1080p should look fine? So you can swap between the 2 modes depending on whether you want pixels or frames?

>>101188110
It's for gaming, probably streaming, and watching TV/Movies/Twitch. Normal gaming PC shit.
I'm doing a 4080 super with 7800x3d so it'll be able to drive most stuff in 4K120 just fine.

>>101192010
It's basically what the new high-end 4K switchable OLED monitors are doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aJLTx12UQM

>>101191909
what
give me an answer

>>101191614
I wouldn't go above 24-25 with a 1080p monitor. 27 is definitely the last stop before the PPI gets low.

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Redpill me on Mini ITX builds. Can they have
>good (air) cooling
>decent thermals
>solid performance
>low noise levels
>reasonable price
in current year?

>>101192752
You need to build a low-power system.
7800X3D with an undervolted, or even power limited, 4080 Super is about as high as you can go.
Consider water cooling the 4080S/4090 if noise mitigation is a high priority, but you need extra case fans to cool the 12V-2x6 power connections.
https://youtu.be/bbVAG5MNi2E?t=121

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Im going to build my first pc with a budget of $1000.
Any suggestions? I picked that case because it's at that price where I live which seems very nice for what it offers.
The specific gpus model is because the cheaper, bigger 6750xt dont fit in the case.

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>>101192852
>you need extra case fans to cool the 12V-2x6 power connections.
What a fucking time to be alive

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>>101192752
ridiculous.

my computer weighs 155lbs, is resistant to pistol cartridge threats, has wheels, and would total an F-350 if i pushed it into the road.

i'm working on the gen 2 build, and it's going to be 190lbs.

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>>101192930
but how loud is it?

>>101192882
I’m not sure AM5 is worth it if you’re going to use a 5200MT/s CL40 kit, check some comparison against DDR4 systems.

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>>101192951
its in my living room. my living room has two 3" tweeters, two 6" midtweeters, two 15" midwoofers, and four 18" subwoofers, with 8000 watts between them, in professional live sound/concert loudspeakers. how in the fuck should i know 'how loud' a computer with a server rack mounted car radiator is.

>>101192882
Cut down on the 7600 to a non-X and use the stock cooler for now, get the $360 6800 instead and just go for a bigger case that can fit it, no reason to constrict yourself.

>>101192971
Record sound at max rpm and post catbox vid.

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>>101193021
the loudest computer will just be whichever one has the fan that goes the fastest, the bigger your radiator and the more fans you have, the lower the speed you can go with the fans.

on a radiator that size, the fan speed where you've already reached maximum dissipation possible is so low that the entire thing is pretty much noiseless.

there truly is no replacement for displacement

>>101192852
>but you need extra case fans to cool the 12V-2x6 power connections.
the fuck? Is this a common issue with mini ITX?

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>>101184417
>no maids

>>101193230
>tranimaid

>>101193225
It’s an issue with the new GPU power connector, it can easily deliver about 40A of current on such a dense terminal for a 4090.

>>101193439
the problem is that it's easy to tweak the connector and make a bad connection if the cable is strained in any direction. with a good connection, it can easily pass 1000+ watts without any concerning heating of the wire.

>>101193495
Did you not watch the video linked in >>101192852 ?
Thermal Grizzly internal testing showed the temperature of a water-cooled 4090's 12V WireView adapter can reach over 90°C in gaming loads @ 450W power limit because the power connection is no longer getting the stock fan shroud's airflow.

I hate being poor

>>101193707
ok, but did anyone asked if you're an amd user?

I´m building a new pc and I need help choosing a CPU, should I go for the i5 14600KF or the Ryzen 7 7700x? I need the PC for gaming.

>>101193771
for gaming go with x3d. for productivity go with intel. 7700x literally makes no sense

i just started putting my build together
really hope i wont fuck it up

>>101193849
don't forget to remove sticker from cpu cooler

>>101184417
Built new PC run Finals 1080p maxed everything, run 2042 maxed everything and both games don't even look all that different from low-medium settings. Shit still look jaggy in the distance. Do I need to try better games or buy a 1440p monitor

>>101193854
I dont even know how im supposed to actually get it on the motherboard lmao
deepcool assassin iv on a b650 lightning

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>>101193981
try reading the fucking manual?

>>101194023
stop assuming that i can read bigot

>>101194031
>>101194023
holy shit i literally forgot i got a mount and all with the cooler
there's so much stuff that i cant keep track

>>101193910
You fell for the max slider memes.

im so paranoid that my motherboard is going to break from the weight of the cooler

>>101193798
Thanks, the decent x3d are a bit over budget for me but I will keep it in mind.

>>101194227
The motherboard is secured by the standoffs.
https://youtu.be/XSTKVZcp5sQ?t=40
The cooler's mounting brackets should help the board spread the weight of the cooler more evenly.

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Whelp it's official boys. My Radeon Fury X has finally started to fail, specifically the pump unit on its included AiO. I don't think the card is worth the money or the hassle required to replace the pump or air cool the card. Lastly, I have and AMD Athlon 880k on an FM2+ motherboard. I really don't think there's anywhere I can go with this platform as well as the CPU being too weak for new GPUs without bottlenecking, so I'm doing almost an entire new PC at this point yea?

Pic related is my new motherboard

>>101194340
I meant to say it's my current motherboard, not new.

So the recommended cooler for 5700x3d is aio? I only have a cheap heat pipe cooler.

>>101194244
The 7800x3d barely costs more than the 7700x in many countries

>>101194340
That's a relic
The current amd socket is am5 which supports Ryzen 7000 and the upcoming 9000 series releasing in 4 weeks. If you just want a pc for normal pc things, an a620 or b650 motherboard with a Ryzen 7600, or a b760+intel 13400 will be more than enough. Otherwise the 7800x3d will offer the best gaming performance for slightly more.

>>101194445
I figure I might as well build high end enough so that I don't have to do so again. If I was going to use a 7800X3D, what's the GPU I should be pairing it with? RTX 4080 Super seems at top end but I feel like the RTX 4060 isn't enough grunt. Are the new radeon cards OK? I was looking at the 7900GRE

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why is there so much hate for the 4090? and why is everyone telling me that its gonna blow up, catch fire etc? arent most issues with these cards user error?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AAJs4VMbp4

>>101194467
Yeah it's a CPU that's fast enough to handle a 4090 at 1080p and 1440p high refresh rate >240hz gaming
7900gre is pretty good value
4080 super isn't top end. The 4090 is, and it's 20-30% faster but those cards are priced for it's ai capabilities these days

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>>101194564
Alright cool. Any reason not to get the 7900XT vs the 7900GRE? Microcenter in my state has the following bundle, pic related. From reviews, it seems like the 7900XT runs a bit hotter but gives overall high average fps.

>>101194617
oh I forgot to mention I can swap out the 7900X for a 7800X3D for $50 less.

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just to be sure, the fan should turn against the heatsink, right?

I enjoy PC building and I'd like to do it more than once every few years. There's really no market for PC building around me, so doing it as a side-gig or even for free wouldn't get me much.
What options do I have? I'm happily employed in webdev so I'm not quitting my job to work at Micro Center.

>>101194641
the air should blow over/in the direction of the heatsink yes

>>101194617
7900x3d is a pretty mediocre CPU. Like, way worse than a 7800x3d because of it's 6+6 core complexes making it a 6-core vcache chip in gaming whereas the 7800x3d is a full 8 core complex CPU that doesn't need special thread scheduling

7900xt is def a better GPU. As for the ram in the bundle, check whether you can swap it for a 6000 cl30 kit instead of the cl36 one that's likely included in the bundle

>>101194645
buy parts, make a build, sell it for like $50 more than what you spent on eBay. use profits to build another PC. Repeat until bored.

>>101194663
Oh yeah, just saw it's a vanilla 7900x. It's even worse than a 7900x3d in gaming and not worth considering at all

>>101194663
>>101194677
see >>101194636
I can just change the 7900X out for the 7800X3D

>>101194680
That's a really good deal then, go for it
Just make sure to check whether you can choose a 6000cl30 kit at no additional charge as that'll guarantee a hynix ram kit that won't have stability issues at fast speeds and have low latency to boot

>>101194754
from what my friend says who bought the bundle, they give you like $150 off the top regardless of which RAM/CPU/etc you choose. They just increase or decrease the price based on the choices you made but the overall bundle deals stays in place. So if I have to spend another $30 or so for a higher end RAM kit, that's fine

so there's some guy selling his 2070, and also selling his whole rig, this is a good sign right ? it feels to me like he basically got bored of it and wants to get rid of everything, or maybe he needs money or has other priorities, it feels low risk, probably no mining on the gpu, original box, also his shit on the background looks expensive which gives me a good feeling about this.

>>101194812
could be he got bored or maybe he just upgraded. either way it's not a bad card if he's letting it go cheap. Like sub $200 cheap

I have four ram slots and two ram modules
Is it better to put them in slots 1 and 3? or makes it literally no difference?

>>101194909
read the manual

>>101194909
Slots 2 and 4 counting from left to right are usually the preferred slots

how often would I need to dedust the AP201 full mesh case? give it to me straight. I want this shape.
gentlemen, I think I'm gonna build again, my old system with amd R9 390 and skylake is losing it every day. good time to be boughting now? I see GPUs for 700 euros, seems good.

like all the cool kidz:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ccWRdH
Dshermany

>>101194947
Yeah that's what i found out
the way they are supposed to turn is filtering me, the notch is centered

>>101190522
>in short you are decade(s) behind
man all of these high refresh rate babbies

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I just ordered an i9-12900H mini PC as a Gentoo machine. What am I in for?

>>101195039
nevermind i got it
im so paranoid lol

I want to upgrade now bros...
Give me strength to wait for the next release

>>101192882
Go with a cl32 6000mhz expo kit you are literally loosing performance by going with a lower speed kit

I need NVIDIA to release 50x ASAP bros, I want to upgrade

>>101195418
Same but AMD releasing 8xxx

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>>101195462
>RDOA4

>>101193910
Render more pixels
>>101192361
At 24 it's already low and looks like shit
>>101192178
>I'm doing a 4080 super with 7800x3d so it'll be able to drive most stuff in 4K120 just fine.
Let me update you... you aren't even hitting 60fps locked in elden ring. 4k rt off...
>>101192010
I will look like shit because you are used to 4k
But also can look better due to higher pixel density and better quality panel.. most likely
It depends
Maybe not
>>101191614
Depends on viewing distance but why tho, costs the same as 1440p
>>101191478
>Best GPU on market
>57
Was 4k a mistake?
>>101190930
I think you are exaggerating a bit but Xbox just works that's about it
But if preferring the ps layout i don't see why not
>>101190909
It's already solved bro, not a discussion

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>>101195418
I recently bought brand new 6800 for 300 euro shekels, feels really nice coming from 2060.

>>101194617
Check amd official store they have bundles too.

>>101194506
>why is there so much hate for the 4090?
Most of it is the bitterness of being priced out of the best GeForce cards (From $650~750 1080Ti to $1600 for a reference-tier 4090).

>and why is everyone telling me that its gonna blow up, catch fire etc?
Disaster porn voyeurs. Hardware Unboxed, DerBauer, and Kingpin all couldn't get their 12VHPWR adapters/connectors to melt.
Gamers Nexus had to loosen their adapter by a lot to melt it.

>arent most issues with these cards user error?
The fact that you have to pay extra attention wrt installation, clearance for bending, connection temperature & voltage regulation swings means these connectors aren't safe enough.
As long as you don't use random third-party adapters, you have a low(er) chance of your 12V power connection melting.

>>101195516
>giving money to jewvidia

Hey guys
Are pre-builts still the best way to get new gaming PCs with card prices as they are?

I got two problems, I want to upgrade but an upgrade for my close to 8 year old machine will be a complete rebuild at this point. Second is that I'm required to be to be using a standing desk for most of the time. I'm currently just using a laptop on it and letting my gaming PC (Massive fucking tower, would never fit on a standing desk setup) collect dust. So with form factor and price in mind, is a pre-built the best option?

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>>101195605
>you have a low(er) chance of your 12V power connection melting.
but basically all you have to do is literally just connect the adapter properly into the card.
like how hard could that be?
I didnt have any problems installing the card with anti sag bracket or plugging it in.
I'm checking every day for sagging, constantly watch my temps and there havent been any issues yet.
but if you check all these complaining videos on youtube, it sounds like 4090s are dying all the time.
wtf do I do now?

>>101195709
Because multiple people have confirmed that despite triple checking that their connection it still melted as well as professional card repairers thanking nvidia for being fuckwits you stupid faggot

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>>101195526
>It's already solved bro, not a discussion
>No proof
I accept your concession. The latency graph in the image has G-Sync & Reflex disabled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msOWcvoIC8M

>>101195709
Some users claim the connection gets loose over time.
Most of the burn happened from the shitty GaybleMod adapters, and they send affected cards to Northridge Fix & resell them.
Their shitty adapters even caused melts on the 4080 with a base 320W power limit.
https://store.cablemod.com/

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>>101195732
they probably installed it wrong.
maybe their söy fingers werent strong enough to push the connector all the way in.
seems to me more plausible.
>>101195793
>Most of the burn happened from the shitty GaybleMod adapters
what are these for? why not use the adapter that comes with the card?

>>101195039
>>101195219
The side with the specifications sticker is usually facing the CPU socket

>>101195793
>Most of the burn happened from the shitty GaybleMod adapters
You got a source to back that up?
No, of course you don't

>>101195819
>what are these for? why not use the adapter that comes with the card?
The adapters voluntarily recalled by Cablemod allowed for tighter case fitment.
The official adapters bundled with the card require at least 35mm extra case clearance before you bend them.
https://cablemod.com/adapterrecall/
https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/72-psu-recommendations-for-nvidia-rtx-4000-cards

All the more recently manufactured RTX 40 series cards use safer 12V-2x6 power headers anyway.
You have to be a genuine retard to start a melt on these new cards.
https://youtu.be/aI-soO7_l_M?t=66

>>101195632
>giving money to amdicks who refuse to price competitively

>>101195851
>Noooo they should lower the prices further so maybe jewvidia might lower their price
Reminder that the world would objectively be a better place if you killed yourself right now

>>101195837
It's the only 90°/180° adapter that's been voluntarily recalled by the seller because they were done making a significant loss on every incidence (refund of original card purchase price or a new replacement + shipping fee to receive card & send to Northridge Fix + Northridge Fix repair of broken card).
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2024/GPU-Angled-Adapters-Recalled-Due-to-Fire-and-Burn-Hazards-Manufactured-by-CableMod
Show me another 12VHPWR adapter recalled by the seller themselves. No, of course you can't.

>>101195875
So what part of that retarded shit you just posted proves "Most of the burn happened from the shitty GaybleMod adapters"?

Do you know what "most" means?

>>101195889
It's the only adapter that caused enough property damage claims to start a voluntary recall you dipshit.
The exact number is 272 reports according to Cablemod, with over $74,500.
Go ahead and find over 272 unique instances of NVIDIA-branded, or any other, adapters that caused more property damage.
No, of course you can't.

win 11 requiring explorer patcher program to change taskbar to the side is really fucking with me
it bugs out, 2nd monitor doesnt respond propely. sometimes windows pretends the taskbar is at the bottom and you need to refresh things to put them in place

>>101195905
Northridge alone receives ~20 4090s a week you retarded faggot
Holy shit I hope this is a bot because this is pathetic

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>>101195917
And the box he shows mostly have Cablemod adapters.
Their adapters caused a melt on PNY 4080 with basic bitch 320W (27A) power limits.
It's a terrible product that was causing enough losses to Cablemod to voluntarily recall them.
Now fucking list over 272 unique instances of NVIDIA-branded, or any other, adapters that caused more property damage.
I'll wait.

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>alchemist already a better value than amd
battlemage will save us

101195938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_47bWBYutc
>80 to 100 cards a month
>But one company has 272 melted cables so that means they're responsible for "most" of the burns and jewvidia is kosher
No more (you)s for you faggot

>>101195941
On one hand more competition good
On the other fuck intelaviv

>>101195964
Imagine completely believing what Northridge Fix has to say, he's the sole repairer for burnt-up cards sent by Cablemod (lucrative client).
Imagine defending a company that makes crappy adapters that can even melt RTX 4080 connectors.
https://store.cablemod.com/product-category/refurbished-graphic-cards/
272 burnt Cablemod adapters vs. 3 Thermal Grizzly WireViews.
You still haven't tallied up over 272 unique instances of NVIDIA-branded, or any other, adapters that caused more property damage.

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>having to argue about (((power connectors))) of all things
I'm glad I bought a 7900xtx

>>101196025
There's no argument, just a one-way bitch slapping.
PNY 4080 cards have an even lower maximum power draw than Founders Edition cards of 3080/Ti & 3090/Ti.
It takes supreme incompetence to melt PNY 4080 power headers, which Cablemod managed to do.

>>101195971
cope. amd could've lower price to compete with value agaisnt intel, but they didn't

As someone who's had a a 560ti, a 970 and a 1070, what's the current best 'bang for buck' GPU?

>>101196025
What's there to argue? Some retard made false claims and got called out

>>101196067
But... they're still selling better?

for me its northwest repair

>>101196091
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>>101196086
>Some retard made false claims and got called out
You have no proof other than Northridge Fix, a related-party to Cablemod, claiming otherwise.
You haven't listed over 272 unique instances of NVIDIA-branded, or any other, adapters that caused more property damage.
You are my bitch.

>>101187900
where you at?
i need someone to suck me off

>>101184417
this computer belongs to a male