Cable techs editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference (basshead, female vocal, treble sensitive, etc.)>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio, Bloom Audio, MusicTeck, Elise Audio (UK)>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tangzu Wan'er S.G (mild V) - $20• EPZ Q1 Pro (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero (bright neutral) - $15• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• RY4S 32Ω mmcx Plus (V-shape) - $10• Yincrow X6 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• Moondrop Dawn Pro - $50• Tanchjim Space - $90• Tempotec Sonata BHD Pro - $90• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• Shanling M0 Pro - $130• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200• Tempotec V3 - $200Previous thread: >>101180147
first for doing drugs and sticking pinecones up your ears
Rember to qe
>>101189713Remember to EQ in your preferences.
EQ = Endgame Quotient
>pos owner has horrible tastewoah
after seeing gaymousetranny's fingers I have to ask is he an obese midget or something? thay shit is not normal.
>>101190072I'm 6'1", 183lbs. its just my genetics i guess. im not a white collared faggot either, ive always done laborious jobs.
>>101190126you are double my weight...
>>101190136man's gotta eat
>>101190126I refuse to believe there's someone who weighs 90 lbs among us. Are you a girl? Favorite pos?
>>101189713Someone please EQ a POS to this graph and tell us how it sounds lmao
>>101190172thats because he lives in africa
>>101190178The graph is a total lie, their customers would have to be idiots to believe it. I'm sure it's a straight line like any cable with enough copper and without defects. It would take 10+ capacitors and inductors to make that crazy fr.
>>101190172im close to 77 pounds actually
>>101190126All of bro's fat went to his fingersHuman physiology is truly insane
>>101190208post hand
>>101190208I think gaymousetranny ought to donate some hand fat to you, it's not fair he keeps it all to himself.
>>101190126They looked like a laborers fingers. I didn't want to make fun of you or anything, but as a blue blood, I thought we are not the same.>>101190208kawaii, don't post hand, post feet
>>101190208Are you 4’9”?
>>101190243
>>101190258all the tallfags stole my height and thats a fact>>101190261>feetno>>1011902725 3
>>101190284flip it over, right now
>>101190305anon there are no women here...
>>101190316good
>>101190305This, show the top of your hand brownoid
>>101190336thats gay
>>101190126Not beating the rat allegations.
>>101189943Sepaking EQ I may finally bite the bullet because USBAPP has 30% sale for addons and PEQ from ToneBoosters is around $2
>late 2022Hola sounds almost good as the Aria, this thing is a banger!>mid 2024Gate sounds exactly like an Aria, this thing sucksDamn man people’s expectations are ridiculous. KZ is scummy af but they were right about one thing: Just shut up and enjoy the music
>>101190464It takes a lot of work to start enjoying music through KZs.
ale these double paperclips stacked onto each other's frequency, divided by some internal crossover, divided by limiting physical ability of these drivers just enough to play their bands, or does it vary depending on the model?
>>101190507blue collar boomer certainly explains how fucked gmt's hearing is that he enjoys kzs
still no iem better than simgot em6l?
>>101190560enjoy your nozzles breaking off your pos
>>101190464god forbid standards get higher and people are less receptive of derivative products>>101190560ea500 (og) better
>Tangzu Wanker>Zero:2>Moondrop Chu II>EPZ Q1 ProWhich should I get if I mainly care about comfort? Is Q1 Pro actually worth double the money compared to the others?(I can't get the Gate, sadly)
>>101190672Q1 Pro in my opinion. small/medium sized semi custom design.The Chu II are too small for their own good.
>>101190243>>101190284Are there still even europeans in this thread?
>>101190706slavs aren't europeans or humans for that matter. scandinavians are animals but they can be broken in and used for labor at least.
>>101190706hello sirthe future is indiani don't make the rules, sorry
>>101190535dont forget, I've had 3 babies. i speak for those with similar life experiences. go ahead and keep following virgin no-life losers like shartpoo and criniggle and those weird tranny fags.
To that one anon that recommended the T1S for max comfort, thank you.
>>101190785you mean like tyvan aka TROONvan?
>>101190785lmao, following women's audio recs is even worse
>>101190785irrelevant if your offspring isn't white
>>101190706this and /mkg/ is an asian magnet
>>101190785>3 babies>still on /iemg/>still on headfibro...
>gets bullied on head fi for being a poorfag>gets bullied here for being a retardPoor gmt, you should try sbaf.
>>101190881>bullied>onlinedo zoomers really?
>>101190790Extremely comfortable, and stock sound is not bad, it just lacks refinement. Channel matching is pretty impeccable, and distortion is ok.
>>101190802>15%>>101190805in what world do you live where women reproduce asexually?>>101190830replace'd>>101190860when I'm with my children, phone's off. they don't even play on my phone unless we draw on it with my s-pen.
>>101190790>>101191051Based. Hit play and enjoy friend. Among many pos encountered over time, T1S and Delci fit with similar slim profile and light weight. I like pseudocustom molded resins up to fairly chonky proportions, but no doubt T1S and Delci are good non-intrusive universal designs.
>>101189713What is this shitty ass graph?
>>101190534Isn't that just 2 identical drivers stuck together because 1 of them wouldn't be loud enough?
Saars, please redeem Hexa in 2022 + 2.
listening to music
>>101191511Listening to real music.
>>101191051A lot of 1DDs seem to have near perfect channel balance, even some normie-fi products do too. Some companies still lag very behind though, *cough* Final Audo *cough*
>Gato arrived earlier than the nova I ordered a million years ago
gato or wankers?
>>101191594>Some companies still lag very behind though, *cough* Final Audo *cough*Samurai does not choose the sword. The sword chooses samurai.
>>101191713Shartur redeemed your novas.
>>101191728wait for wanker studio
>>101191728gatobetter tuning, better shell, better cable, better accessories overallneither wanker nor wanker shit edition comparealso wanker se is just a reskin, it's still the same garbage shell and garbage stock tips, they didn't even hand out their fancy tips to actually give people a reason to buy the skin
>>101192144It's weird how every single marketing image still uses sancai tips.
Someone in this thread (prolly chuzo) gave me a nice EQ preset for my oxygens, it was basically crin's new target, does said anon per chance still have that pic?
>>101192339it was probably JM-1. it's available almost everywhere, although crinacle's tool does allow for variable tilt.
>>101192266weird to the clueless, real niggas know that they gotta advertise those shitty tips somehow.
are gate's stock tips good?
>>101191483so it can basically be considered a single BA but louder?
>>101192589The wide bores are comfy, the narrow ones not so much because the Gato's shape doesn't allow for a deep fit.
The Tangzu Wan'er will be the case study's subject.
The very reason I was hesitant buying gato was that it looks extremely gay, dont get me wrong I have nothing against transperent design but gatos implementation is way too appalling.
>>101191533The music: https://youtu.be/yj2rmoSryfs
>>101193076at least it's better than the kzoid shit at the same price point
Hey y'all, small question, kinda want the opinion of people here.I recently purchased a set of iems, pretty expensive ones too (>700 usd), and after maybe less than 10 uses the mesh filter came off while in my ear (thankfully still partially attached so it didn't come off in my ear).Is this normal? The company when I reached out to them said it will only "improve sound quality" and is okay to have them off; which sounds like a total bunch of bullshit.What do y'all think?
>>101193603if the front of your boeing falls off, it will only improve sound quality
>>101193603Take a pic. Resin nozzle iems sometimes come with filters that are fucking useless and fall off like variations.
>>101193555true actuallyI wish they had worked on the design a bit more but eh gotta wait till their next fotm
for me it's the balut pos
>>101193603>this is what you have to go through when you don't know how to EQ $20 pos to achieve endgame
>>101193603>Is this normal?No, but weak adhesive on the edge surround is typically all that holds it on. Not insane for it to fall off eventually / if disrupted. Like other anon replied, sometimes filters are simply to prevent debris from going deeper inside the IEM, having negligible impact on the sound. Other times, it is an integral tuning element which gives you the "stock" sound.>said it will only "improve sound quality"Yeah that is a BS response lol.
>>101190706Yes sir. Buy the castor bass.
>>101193713I will say wait for next sale and get $50 pos for $5
>>101193713$20 POS is already dangerously close to endgame too. This is sad
>>101193741your fingernails are uncomfortably short
>>101193741>fat, old, nail biter, terminal stage of hypertension, thumb looks like a toenever swap nudes with me again
>>101193741no you dont pass as a white, tyvan
>>101193772my hand is similarly veiny, but has more visible tendons & I just got my blood checked and it's perfectcope
>>101193746I'm upgrading from $150 dentpos to $50 pos. Somehow I find it hard to believe that budgetpos has gotten this good, but soon I'll see for myself. The dentpos scene is incredibly stagnant and the western 99% hearing loss tuning cartel is artificially inflating prices. I'm not giving the sonic jew any more of my money. Instead I choose to financially support the Chinese army to ensure total western destruction and complete chifi domination.
>>101193823I checked this anon's blood and it tasted just fine.
>>101193830literally just redeem truthear gate and be blown away by how shitty your dentpos is in comparison for the price difference
>>101193830I was skeptical at first too and blindly went with a premium 200 dollar pos. I only got buyers' remorse once I finally pulled the trigger on the pocket change pos. They're really endgame. Plus, if it shits in bed, you just get a new one.
rosemary spc 4.4 is nice. i like the upgraded wire
>>101193900if you told me your sexual orientation, i'd need to look it up on urban dictionary
>>101193741>Slight pink tint on the knucklesyou get a pass
Redeemed FD15, I wonder if it's massive cause it made fatfinger's fingers look like Vienna sausages.
>>101193966>mmcxlol lmao. what a way to ruin a potential earphone
>>101194020enjoy your gay pins breaking off
>>101194037enjoy your connector disintegrating after half a dozen pull offs
>>101194020Its not that bad who cares. Can't wait for ipx or pentaconn to become standard, the seethe will be insane.
>>101193839My gf is very upset about this information
>>101193876>>101193878>>101193830Truthear gate POS is very very good to my ears honestly. Slightly bright but controlled. The bass is insanely good. I’ve never tried expensive gear but I do have an HD650 and overall in terms of detail it’s no competition. The timbre is lighter and livelier which has its pros and cons but in some ways it sounds more “open” than the openbacks.If there’s one category headPOS can never compete it’s in bass. single DD due to human anatomy if it’s tuned well like gate literally has the ideal Harman bass shelf. Actual bass presence is somewhere between 5128 and 711 measurements.
>>101194121God I hope they start selling these to Europe before I can redeem my coupon from the Ali euro cup
>get amazon order>its defective>they send me a full refund before I return the item>they offer no shipping slip, and expect me to pay for shippingCan they re-charge me if I just keep it?
>>101194211who's gonna stop you? detective chang?
>>101194225well it's amazonnot sure what kind of options the seller has
>>101194208My hearing is fricked so take what I say with a grain of salt but overall i agree with listener here. It’s a different flavor of neutralhttps://headphones.com/blogs/reviews/truthear-gate-new-ultra-budget-king
What pos do you consider the underdog in the in ear ring, one that nobody hardly ever talks about but is actually a well crafted pos worth having?
>>101194344kz libra, tuned great, also so fucking cheap. but yet nobody wants it because of obvious reasons.
>>101194037nta ive had my fd5 for 4 years now. not a single issue regarding connectors. my shit is beat to fuck as well. just be an adult.
>>101194376its obvious because it doesnt have an interesting box
>>101193966i spent some time with it today and i just love the bass performance on that pos, it oozes technicalities.
for me it's the euthanasia special
>>101194599>unironically millionaire budget techs
i want to commit a hate crime
>>101189713Add the Iris 2.0 (warm) and the Temperament X10 (neutral). DO IT!!
>>101194824it should have been in the recc all this time
>>101194824>>101194837I have both of them coming in. I'll do my usual measurements and share impressions, although I don't have the Yincrows anymore. Never tried the RY4S.
>>101194907great, i'm sure you'll appreciate both
>>101194907there are two versions of them out there, one has significantly higher impedance I reccon, also need to try the nicest hack
>>101194121>I’ve never tried expensive gearIt explains your post, and similar ones. But if you're happy and blissfully unaware, it's fine.
would you buy an IEM version of this?
>>101195730the real gato we deserve
>>101195730looks fucking stupid
>>101195483I mean…
>>101195782>newfag having headfi-levels of graph literacylike clockwork lmao
>first iem was wankers>hurts my left ear -doesn't fit (my left ear has a disproportionately large pointy earbone sticking out in the middle)>is gate a different fit or should I just stick to buds?
>>101195926check the official/store photos and see if that certain part collides with your knob as compared to wanker
i got an astell and kern a&norma mk II and for the money i spent on it youd think its a good product. fucking no. wigs out when i rearrange a playlist, temporarily applies an album art to all my albums, screen shuts off randomly sometimes, slow as shit, takes 10mins to scan all my music every time i power it on, and it wiped all tracks from 2 of my playlists for no fucking reason. cant even return this pos bc ive had it for like a yr in the hopes it will get better, but its only gotten worse. do all of their products blow like this or did i just get unlucky.
>>101196006>he fell for the overpriced astell pmp memeoh no no no no no
its over for me...
>>101196006i think they all blow, they're only a known name because they were early to the scene in marketing daps as "audiophile" grade/slapping good headphone amps on android hardware back when there were few options. they've always had shitty software that people just dealt with.
>>101196058damn now that's a RARE update
>>101196058sorry gweilo,,,
>>101189943using EQ to make the set worse lmao, could of just gotten a shrillgot or a hexa if you wanted limp bass and tinnitus highs
best around 50
>>101196058At least you got an update. Hopefully the fish enjoy your pos.
hifigo has a pretty decent intro article on FR graphs, color me surprisedhttps://hifigo.com/blogs/guide/frequency-response
What are other IEMs besides the Zero Red that would be good for Metal.
>>101196822any pos + EQ
Finally fun thread.
>>101196865>black mold on white foamsbro...
>>101196881It's just a dot made with gel pen..
>>101196822preferences always apply even within genres. some people want visceral biting crispy edge, whereas others recognize the generally poor recording/mastering quality of metal and want a warmer smoother presentation.
>>101194211>>101194246Do you see how it says >We are expecting your return.?If they don't get it, you will be re-charged.
>>101196964Yeah I get that. I was more talking generally. I thought about picking up a 7hz Timeless when I was shopping for IEMs. But I'm not sure if it's worth it for this kind of music. Same with the Dioko.
>taint is a budtardbudchuds... its over
>>101197116you need to go back
>>101197080dioko is a hard pass. horrible iem.timeless is old. all planar iem drivers come from the same factory which has made iterative improvements over time. basically getting the latest planars is the smarter option. nicehck f1 pro, shozy p20, artti t10 give you same performance at lower cost.
>>101196895forgot name, delete plz
>>101196822Modern? EPZ K5, old stuff - Penon Fan 2 is okay. Generally something (bright) neutral. If you want more fun then U/W/V signature.
new pos>Geek Wold GK300$550 1DD+8BA+1Planar+2EST. Bright technical sound.>Oriveti bleqk Dynabird$100 1DD. Head-Fi shill brand, beware. Their pos are mostly tuning of yesteryear (subpar).>Juzear Butterfly 61T$220 1DD+6BA. Following recent trend of bassier, less forward upper mids like PA02 / D41 / Explorer.>Tinhifi DUDU$80 13mm Planar. Same dual-sided diaphragm as Letshuoer S08. Tinhifi often uses same OEM components as other big brands with less articulate marketing and less fanfare.>Smabat SL10$50 2DD earbud. Smabat been around a while, they don't get much love, probably rightly so. Gimmicky pos lacking substance.>Tangzu Waner SE$20 1DD.>Tang Sancai Narrow BoreNew buttplugs.>FiiO FD15$150 13.8mm DD. Rare decent FiiO product.>TRI I3 MK3$220 10mm DD + 1BA + 10mm Planar. Rare decent TRI (KBEAR) product.>Dunu Titan S2$80 1DD. Adequate refresh of the original.>7Hz Aero$15 1DD. New bullet.>7Hz Five$150 5DD. Probably a meme miss.
>>101197194I almost grabbed a dioko for $79, but decided to pay a bit more and get the nicehck f1 pro instead.
>>101197243No shot they called their product doodoo
>>101197243Thanks, been a while since I've last done a noteworthy post.I'll enjoy my extended vacation.
>>101197286ikr lmao. silly chang
>>101197066I did.That answers the question.Thanks.
do you guys actually have an ear simulator?
>>101197672Anyone worth their grain of salt has one.
>>101197672I do. It's a real game changer.
>>101197672No, but I have ears
>>101196006A&K players are distilled dogshit essence, ergonomics are non-existent, and you get some totally cucked Android without any benefits of a proper OS with 5 whitelisted apps but all the lags and bugs.>>101197672Overrated, you still need to EQ by ear.
>>101197672I unironically believe that the only people getting them are reviewers getting free pos and retards who buy $300 cables for wankers and chus.
>>101197783>>101197808Post preset right fucking now
>>101197721>>101197743what do they cost?
>>101198006Around $70.
>>101195730I already have fox IEM.
>>101197672Yes.
>>101198210Legit question - how does insertion depth into the tube affects measurements?
>>101197672>do you guys actually have an ear simulator?Yes. I got it when I got EA500LM and a tuning kit. I tuned by set to exactly what I wanted.Can't really call yourself an enthusiast without having one.They're cheap too.
>>101198268From shallow to deep. But even the shallowest insertion is not shallow enough to represent my fit.
>>101198368Great, thank you.
Music is typically produced with anechoically flat speakers in a room. The frequency response of such a speaker in this room is tilted downwards above 1 kHz and there is a bass-boost below 200 Hz. They do make the music sound good under these conditions. However, the strength of the tilt and the bass boost depends on the room. That means, if I use anechoically flat speakers inside my own room to listen to the music, it sounds off because my room (probably) sounds different than the producers room.The influence of the room to the sound are flaws. In an ideal world, we would produce music on flat speakers in the free field without any room effects. And it would sound perfect if we also listened to music under these conditions. However, when listening to such music in a typical room, there should be too much bass and too little treble. We would have to EQ to minimize the effects of our rooms.But what about IEMs? In an ideal world, where music is produced on flat speakers in the free field, all we'd need are DF tuned IEMs. They would sound perfect in such a world.Our reality is, that a DF tuned IEM sounds horrible. We apply a tilt above 1 kHz and a room curve below 200 Hz on the diffuse field target. But this is flawed, because we would have to match the producers room.It is actually not the DF tuned IEM that sounds bad, it is the music that does, because in our world, music gets produced under bad circumstances, i.e., in a room that increases bass and attenautes treble. So producers have to decrease bass and amplify treble.Maybe music should be produced so that it sounds good on a flat speaker in the free field, and all room effects must be seen as flaws that have to be equalized. I'd only have to EQ my speakers to my room, and all music should sound good. For IEMs, there would exist only one target curve, the DF, without bass boost, without tilt.
>>101198722>flat speakers in the free field>all we'd need are DF tuned IEMs
>>101198722>muh faithful reproduction>>>/hpg/this is midbass bleed vs earrape central
>>101198778What's my mistake here?
>>101198805D
>>101198722DF doesn't sound like speakers in a diffuse field. FF doesn't sound like speakers in free field. Your own HRTF doesn't as good as HRTF of KU1000. Not only we don't have any objective target, we don't even have the means to develop an objective target yet.
>>101198831*KU100
What are some good quality single DD options? I was thinking Tigerism Octave. What else? Simgot, Fiio?
>>101198831Maybe I made mistakes regarding FF and DF. I just thought it would help make music sound better on IEMs, if the producers would not decrease bass and increase treble because of their shitty rooms. Maybe (most likely) I'm wrong, just want to discuss a bit I guess.
>>101198859>I was thinking Tigerism OctaveExplain your thought process.
>>101198864We have a century of recorded music. Most of it already sounds good on flat speakers in a moderately treated room(ie has furniture). You think we should throw it all away?
>>101198867fuck harman, nice shell, apparently same guy and driver as MiM Dark Magician, better executed ikko oh10?
>>101198903Delusional.
>>101198915https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xxE9gV9YBg
>>101198887Listen to the recordings of different decades for example. Everything sounds different. I think more standardization would be beneficial, even if that means that we'd have to eq the old music, to make them listenable on "new" systems. Just a thought, really.
>>101198936Baby steps. First we need a way to reliably reproduce at least one listening environment on IEMs without listening tests. Then we can decide what is a "good" environment and standardize it. There is impulcifier and the dev said it just works but he also says that autoeq just works and we know it's bs. Once we can model everything we can convert legacy music to an environment it's meant to be listened in and use object based audio for all new music. I strongly suspect we'll be unable to do that until head-tracking gets accessible. The brain doesn't audio alone for spatial cues.
og Trn v20 still werks, much more neutral than og salnotes zero. why did trn suck at tuning now?
I am looking for something very specific and I am not sure if there is even a market for that shit. I am no headphone enthusiast and the only to brands I know for inears are westone and shure. Now I am looking for inear wireless headphones preferably designed in a way thats suitable for sprinting and heavy movements and from a premium brand like shure or westone. The best I could find is generic from jbl for 100€ but I would be willing to spend more.
>>101200166>a premium brand like shure or westoneanon...
>>101200250I dont care about the brand like I said these are the only two I know of. Just point in me in the direction of the next best thing. I dont care about brand loyalty or whatever. I just want a good working product.
>>101199618Nah it's just everyone kept on shilling moonderp and turdear to care about this.
Did I do good by buying the nicehck f1 pro?
>>101198284you need to tell yourself all of this to justify your consoomery? fucking redditors man.....
>>101200166Premium brands don't do wireless shit. Get something IP certified and commence the jogging.
>>101200262Then I'm fairly sure what you're asking for exists, I thought you were just going to say no to all options that weren't from a brand you knew & claimed to be a "premium brand".The issue with in ears specifically designed for working out/running is that they tend to care less about the sound than the fit aspect
>>101200166>sprinting and heavy movementshave you considered bone conductors like shokz? if you really need the isolation that in-ears provide, you could probably try something else one of these autismos recommend. i recently tried Technics EAH-AZ80 and enjoyed them. going cheaper and you'll start gambling with qc and durability.
>>101200481bro it's pos
>>101200621>Premium brands don't do wireless shit.yeah thats what my limited research also conducted.>The issue with in ears specifically designed for working out/running is that they tend to care less about the sound than the fit aspectI mean it makes sense but its still a market that is seemingly untouched or maybe I am just a single autists.>have you considered bone conductors like shokz?looked it up and it looks weird, have never heard or seen that tech in action let alone tried it myself.>if you really need the isolation that in-ears provideyeah since I would also use them while using the bus and I dont want to bother other people.>Technics EAH-AZ80just going by design they look like most inears. no way they stay in my ear while sprinting.
>>101200732maybe try one of the cheaper options available like KZ Xtra and get some aftermarket tips like Spinfit Omni or W1, Dunu S&S tips, Symbio tips, there's lots of them out there. KZ Xtra seems good for the money.
>>101196865now THAT's a whole next level of being an Alchemist and a Star Child, even reconnection with the cosmos is now possible! CERN Incident didn't happen as long as you listen to*FAAEAL* and *Vido*earbuds! No more listening to farts, now real music sounds like it should, a symphony in your ears played by billions of celestial objects!
How stupid would it be to use an old phone with a SD card slot as a make shift DAP?
No good coupons on ali this choice sale
>>101201277if you want the highest sound quality possible, you're not getting anything comparable to dedicated DAPs with 4.4mm balanced outputs this way, but if you're content with stuff like Sansa or iPod Classic with Rockbox, an old phone with good DAC will do the job just as well
>>101200974What if you like listening to farts?
>>101201441then use following:*ThieAudio Prestige LTD*You're an alchemist, a star child. Reconnect with the cosmos. Go back in time before the (2012 CERN incident).
>>101200732I would say "premium" tws are overrated when working out. Fit should take priority, then shit like anc and ambient mode depending on your scenario. From experience: Snoys have small form factor but WF1000XM5 make funny noise caused by shock when running and jumping, they also benefit from different eartips. Linkbuds S would be better but depending on your ear their microphone grill can catch sweat and skin and require cleaning after every use, still toppest of the top form factor. I've tried AZ80 but returned them, great sound but they weight is not very well distributed and when jumping I've felt like they will fall off. In all cases it's all about genetic lottery. Ironically, at home I use bulky $30 Engine 4 (barebone as fuck) with penon liquer tips, they are grippy as hell. Dunu S&S and latex tips should do the trick too. Tl;dr fit/good eartips, then functionality, music quality third
>>101201617Fuck, I forgot to replace the name after shitposting from tablet and a phone
>>101201617in TWShit repairability comes first, shit lives as long as its weakest link so you want to replace batteries as soon as they fail
>>101201668Don't you have 2 year warranty in your region that covers it? If it doesn't fall under that promised 60% during that time you should be fine for that year or two more. And then we will probably have new batch of codecs.
>>101201688>2 yearif you consider it a long enough period of time, then get continuously scammed on that shit more, while I use my over 20y/o equipment
>>101201320Cheap dongle is as good as dedicated DAP.
>>101201764which one? Dawn Pro?
>>101201773Even jcally shit (ap7/ap10) is as good.
>>101201761name that 20y.o items, I'll wait. People change phones on average every 4-5 years, wired IEMs die after a year left and right and now magically 4 year old outdated TWS is a sacrilege.
>>101201898actually it's cheap stuff, snoy MDR-V150 and senilegeezer HD515 among a bunch of others, including earphones included with my ancient phones, sometimes the cable will break from abuse but a patchwork will always save it, but many of those cheap shit is still alive and kickin', probably for next 20 years or so, and all that despite being as far as possible from TOTL stuffmeanwhile, in the modern exciting and amazing twshit world...
>4 days since the last delivery update>23 days since the order was placed
>>101202150Up to two months is normal for ali.
>>101198864>if the producers would not decrease bass and increase trebleAnon, producers increase bass and decrease treble. Or at least leave it as it was in the recording. Music has the same spectrum as pink noise, with more bass sometimes.
>>101200974Earbuds should get a comeback for sure. 2000s were so comfy
>>101193772all of those are false but I can send you nudes if you send them back?
>>101198722>That means, if I use anechoically flat speakers inside my own room to listen to the music, it sounds off because my room (probably) sounds different than the producers room.That's why you buy a measurement mic and use REW
best $10 iems?
>>101203261just get Faaeals and NiceHecks with Vido on side for that money.
>>101203292my nigga i said iems cuz i need bass and some isolation
>>101203261KZ EDX Lite
>>101200554you sound like a jaded poorfag.
>>101203341Wait for the next big event and get green wankers for close to that price. if you're a new aliexpress user you could've gotten them for that price exactly
The wankers have subpar ergonomics because of their nozzle angle.
>>101204476Then whats better at $10 without resorting to earbuds?
>>101204566KZ Libra dumbass
>>101204566I hate talking about KZ, but both the EDX Lite and the Libra have been measured by anons here and seem to be quite good.
the wankers are sibilant for me. how fix?
>>101204762stab your ears until they bleed
>>101204566Just get the gate.
>>101204762Most likely due to a resonance somewhere above 6kHz. Try 7100 and 10300Hz (my resonances) but they can very well be shifted. Use a sine sweep or tone generator to check
these iem thingies sound pretty good bros, even better when i figure out how to left and right and up and down to wear them properly
>>101204758edx lite is indeed good but the shell is huge for being a single dd. it looks like the shell for libra is more comfortable. i really wish they'd stop fucking around with PET diaphragms and put that welded coil design on an exotic metal diaphragm with a 3d printed shell like their hybrids.
>>101204845tbf edx lite and wan'er are about the same size when worn
>>101204827Not gonna lie it’s gotta take some skill to get an IQ that low ironically invalidating the test
Redeem gate.Redeem hexa.Redeem nova.
How would I go about troubleshooting fit/seal issues and making an educated guess as to what kind of tips to get? Like, if you're experiencing xyz, tips made of ldkjfg material would help, or tips shaped like this or that. People seem to generally experiment with random tips from different pos sets and eventually amass such a collection that they're bound to find something that works for them, but what if you're a pos virgin and don't want to buy 50 $20 iems just to find one decent set of tips?
>he doesnt know that you can get bass in earbuds
>>101205130generally wide bore: + heighs; narrow bore: - sibilance + bass; epro horn weird mindfuckery
You could get bass whenever he uses his DAP.You could get bass even when you're on top.You could get bass sitting down.You could get bass on the ground.You could get bass here or there.You could get bass anywhere.But could you? Would you? With a Gato?Could you? Would you? Matte Kato?Could you? Would you? With a Yincrow?Could you? Would you? Wearing Vido?
>>101205236>Could you? Would you? Wearing Vido?yes
>>101205218Thanks
>>101205130It's impossible because everyone's ears are different. If you want to tiproll on a budget, you could start with Fiio HS19 which comes with 12 pairs of tips or Tennmak Whirlwind which comes with 9 pairs
>>101205145Not real bass.
What cheap(20-30$) IEMs (+ tips, if it makes a big difference) would you recommend for a very long flight? Aka comfort & isolation taking a strong priority over sound quality
>Bought during the 6.18 sale>Order still not shipped
>>101205375its in the op bro
>>101205380its not coming bro chang forgot to put it on the delivery line
talk me out of redeeming Kinera Celest Wyvern Abyss
>>101205490It looks really pretty, is cheap, and looks to be tuned well. Get it
>>101205543what's that humongus ear gain
>>101205435those aren't specifically about comfort/isolation & just a few posts ago someone says the wanker is uncomfortable due to the nozzle angle
>>101205607it's the grado special
>>101205607? It looks completely normal. What are you on about
$30 pos looks like this? t10 sisters, how do we reply without sounding mad?
2nd fattest fingers in the game here. FD15 is okay, fit is nice and the accessories are good. The sound is listenable I guess but there's something in the treble that bothers me. Will have to play with EQ later but overall I'm not impressed but I wasn't expecting to be. Gonna slap a gigantic bass boost on them and see how they perform.
>>101206113>something in the treble that bothers metoo bright or too dark?
>>101206128It sounds like there are narrow band peaks in the 7-15K region that can get activated with certain sounds. Percussion and female poison especially.
>>101205705Beauty is fleeting, sleeper planar pos bragging rights are eternal.
>>101206198>female poisonwow was planning on getting them. Will avoid I guess
>>101206113try different tips. stock tips and hs19 suck ass. dunu s&s tips work best for me.
>>101204653>>101204800it was rhetorical. KZ is scam company, not an option, gate is almost double the price, at 20 you're better of getting the trn conch
>>101206515>KZ is scam companynpc reply
>>101206539Rat reply
How destitute do you have to be to spend $10 on something that should serve you for years?
>>101206498s&s tips seems like a collective delirium to me. doesn't work for me at all.
>>101206622werks for me
>>101206622it doesn't work for me either, the thicker bore opening makes it uncomfortable
>>101206498I'm using jvc spiral dots ++, stock tips are just for the pic
for me it's planned obsolescence foam tips. nothing else works half as good
Daily reminder that techs are stored in the electricity
>>101192339pic related is a better preset but heres the old one: >>100045892
daily reminder that hunters use dynamic drivers, rangers use balanced armatures, forces use planars
>>101207065the fuck is this schizobabble
Reminder to ONLY listen to real musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z75uZfsvtUU
Size comparison FD5 vs FD15, they're basically the same size FD15 is maybe half mm bigger in diameter and 1mm thicker. Can't get the cables off because lolmmcx
new cables for my pos
>>101207297wow anon!! it's so beeeg and thick!
>>101206601Werks for my faaeal earbuds. I could just solder a new wire if it broke.
>>101207297>didn't redeem impregnated cablengmi
4 years and still counting>>101207065What about hybrid?
These shits any good?
>>101207602reddit
Only retards use meme drivers.
>>101207763as good as the price you pay for
>>101207763better than apple dong tbqh
>>101207763>KT dac insideShould be warm-ish signature with some floor noise if you're using low sensitivity $20 pos. Just get anything with CX31993 it should be better.
>>101207106Leave and never come back with your earrapeing noisehttps://youtu.be/ZSUOK0V6qwc?si=nwecVsWra_eB_dJd
I EQ my pos just like I EQ my body with HRT
>>101205145>bass >earbudsyou are deaf.
Is it time to retire my Blon bl-03 even though it still works perfectly fine
>>101208796Upgrade to the aful explorer for a slightly toned down take on the same tuning
What do we think about the tinhifi doodoo?
>>101208796give to me please, that thing is gonna be museum material some day. the first iems that got everyone saying "i don't know okay?! it just sounds like magic", of course those were simpler times
>>101208891pod
Smabat SL-102 DD earbuds
>>101208930is this the one where the housing has some kind of acoustic u-shaped pipe in it? saw that a couple days ago forgot which earbud it was
>>101209042>is this the one where the housing has some kind of acoustic u-shaped pipe in it?Yeah, "open backed" but i guess the open back goes to the pipe
>>101209064ahh yes found it. Do like that they made the shape actually have an function
Is the CS43198 the one that sucks?Dunu made a dual CS43198 dongle for $70 that's actually smallDUNU DTC480
>>101209042>>101209086The Moondrop U2 also has a similar thing going.Supposedly used for acoustic tuning, but I'm not too sure about the details.
>>101208903aight imma keep it
7Hz Aero is the new FOTM! Redeem ASAP!!
>>101209273>3.5k pinna>recessed mids>nigga bassbro..
>>101209296dont forget, fixed cable
>>101209273gay I'd rather get the new 5DD turbomeme
>>101209312sub $15 eh who cares
>>101194625kek
>>101209407This is what you can get instead.
>>101209407Is that true? I heard it was going for $22.
>>101209446I told you faggots, at $22 7hz would literally be competing with themselves, it would make no sense. This set is basically a blon zero 2 hybrid with no detachable cable for approximately 10$ less. I for one welcome these at a price point of $15 or less and will probably pick it up along with my gate depending on the graph. >>101209427Libra is v-shaped af my guy. I’m sure it’s not bad honestly but not my cup of tea desu.
>>101209472>Libra is v-shaped af my guyThe measurement is pretty similar to the one shown for the Aero, except with (imo) a better ear gain placement, and detachable cable.
>>101209504Ya i mean Im not gonna lie its actually done pretty well…that 8khz peak might be real though. Also I dont trust KZ as far as I can throw them I know this set will get stealth revised the only real question is “when?”
>>101209472Aero right now is selling on Amazon jp for ¥3500 which is like $20.
>>101209520>that 8khz peak might be real thoughYeah I wouldn't be surprised, most KZ pos aren't damping any type of resonances. I wish the anon that posts these would include different insertions just to see how to reacts.>Also I dont trust KZ as far as I can throw them I know this set will get stealth revised the only real question is “when?”Agree, I don't have much confidence. I think for now, they're still worth looking at.
>>101209533holy shit yen has dropped a lot
>>101209092>DUNU DTC480Basically you should ignore the Dunu and Simgot DEW4X dongles. They are cheap implementations of the dual CS43198. For only a few dollars more, you can get the superior Aful Snowy Night, EPZ TP50, or the new king obsoleting all other options: Shanling Onix Alpha XI1
new bread >>101209718
>>101209533Baskingshark said it is sub-15$ idk so verdict is out but it checks the boxes>non semi custom shell(less material)>stupidly minimal package and accessories>non-detachable cable
