you are retarded

>>103285563
It's like the Windows Vista or Java of compression. Everybody moved on but there's still one faggot stuck on it who you must interact with occasionally.

>>103285564
get out, wintoddler.

>>103285592
rar isnt windows only mr tech illiterate

>>103285563
it just werks

>>103285595
it is de facto
it's a meme format with no specification, no standard and no nothing meant to be used only with a proprietary piece of shitware called winrar and available only on windows
the fact that some people managed to reverse engineer the format on other OS's doesn't mean that it's not a wintoddler garbage format which should die
>>103285608
it literally doesnt
.zip is the just werks format

Everybody should be using ZPAQ now.

>>103285627
>Ummmm..... WinRAR = Windows Only! even doe its just a file manager
>What do you mean the developer didn't made cracking it so easy on purpose? YOU NEED TO PAY!!!!!!!!!!
>What's RAR Archiver and Unrar....?
>Proprietary le bad
7zip tar and zip so terrible against it, aside of compression algorithms
i may elaborate further if you please
>>103285644
soon

>>103285664
>soon
Why soon? It's ready TODAY.

>>103285724
zstd now

>Why do people still use it
Cause it was made by Microsoft and people don't want to vet new software. 7Zip isn't malware, but does IT want to take the time to vet it and be on the hook if someone somehow uses it against the company. If someone does that with winrar you can always just throw your hands up and say that Microsoft fucked up and they cant do much with that. No one ever got fire for using Microsoft shit.

>>103285760
>Cause it was made by Microsoft
No it wasn't.

>>103285760
Microsoft didn't invent it, it was by a USSR software engineer.

>>103285563
And use what instead.
zip is ancient garbage and 7zip is kind of shit.

>>103285846
>ancient garbage
you're retarded, zip is what everyone should use. alternatively, tarballs.
>>103285664
what makes zip terrible?

>>103285863
>zip gets corrupted
>not recoverable, everything is gone
>rar gets corrupted
>everything is recoverable, or few files are gone or able to recover the rest

>>103285880
that doesn't matter at all
most people use archives as glorified tarballs, they dont need them for long term storage
besides i sincerely doubt rar has strong guarantees against corruption but i admit i've never looked into it

>>103285899
tar deez balls in your mouth

>>103285899
for storing archives? it extremely matters to me.
>besides i sincerely doubt rar has strong guarantees against corruption but i admit i've never looked into it
https://www.liamfoot.com/analysing-the-effectiveness-of-winrars-rar5-recovery-records
you can think as an parchive, except its baked in. heck evens supports blake2 checksum.
rar is likely to go open sores when the creator calls it quits or dies. see his orthodox file manager "FAR" it's quite good!
i will never understand 7-zip developer refuses to implement this as *.7z is pretty flawed

>>103285915
haha lol

.rar is good and recovery records are good though...

>>103285880
I mean, nice to have. Call it OCD if you want, but rather than considering whether it's recoverable, my approach would be
> archive gets corrupted
> restore it from backup

>>103285563
rar is better overall. Yes it compresses slightly worse than 7z but is a lot faster. Also the rar developer is not a retard who doesn't understand what an IV is for in encryption. Also recovery records and better GUI. There is nothing worse than 7z simps. The 7z dev is an ignorant Russian retard.

>>103286392
oh and I forgot, RAR uses blake2 while 7z still uses crc32. I swear, 7z is the perfect redditfag indicator.

>>103286362
multiple backups as always

>>103286392
>>103286406
i hate 7z so much i rather use zip or tar

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>right click
>send to compressed

Why do you dislike 7z? It has better compression than rar. Do you use ape for lossless audio compression when you're at it?

>>103286660
NTA but 7-zip developer is a nigger for not officially supporting this https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd

>>103285563
>>103285590
>>103285592
>>103285627
>>103285760
>laughably oblivious to xer own retardation and continuing to double down
Holy shit.

RAR works on pretty much every major OS, at the command line, or through some GUI. It offers a great compression ratio for most formats, is fast and multithreaded, supports encryption, deduplication, multipartite archives, and recovery records. It is also actively developed, and one of the only proprietary, for-profit software products that still offers and honors lifetime licenses (not that you even need a license to use it). I have been running GNU/Linux as my primary OS since 2009, and still use RAR on that platform semi-frequently. The license I bought for WinRAR back in 2001, continues to be recognized by RAR on Linux, and on OS X. It is good software. Plain and simple.

>>103285760
>it was made by Microsoft
Neither RAR nor WinRAR was ever a Microsoft product, you braindead zoomnigger.

>>103285760
No, Zip was Microsoft's abortion of a format. RAR is zigger shareware.

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>he doesn't archive his files inside eggs

>>103286833
ZIP wasn't created by Microsoft either, retard. It was created by PKWARE, a tiny company created by an alcoholic dude.

>>103285563
Winrar has way better eastern asian language support I still run into files that don't show the file names correctly with 7zip and I have to fire up winrar and manually change Name Encoding to SHIFTJIS or ANSI BIG5

>>103285564
fpbp

>>103285608
this

>>103286833
holy fucking shit, so many clueless retard zoomers in this thread.
Zip was created by Phil Katz, solo dev

>>103286797
>t. ChatRAR

>>103285563
>>103285627
> format
it's a compression algorithm, not a "format", you fucking retard.

zipping everything to one file is comfy 2002 vibes

>>103286660
>Why do you dislike 7z? It has better compression than rar.

it compresses better than RAR4 but not as good as RAR5. It may beat it using solid compression on many file archives like ROM sets, but solid compression is a fucking major pain in the ass (it has to decompress the ENTIRE archive even if you only want to read a 1kbyte txt file).

and I don't care if 7z is 1% better in compression when it is 1000% slower on decompression.

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>>103287802
chatrar this

so you incels saying 7zip is bad? what's the most chad format then?

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>>103285563
white man format.

>>103286722
>yet another special combination of formats in a separate project
Nobody needs this shit, just open a PR for libarchive

>>103286797
You need the proprietary unrar to work properly. All free extractors are limited to older versions of RAR compression.
Standard distributions of GNU/Linux won't be able to handle it out of the box or with just the default repositories. You'll have to download the source code and compile it yourself or rely on further repositories.

>>103287924
He's not wrong, retard.
The entropy coder is the algorithm.
The container is the format.

rar and tar is all you need

>>103288188
I package rar for the distro I use, so it's not a problem for me at all.

>>103285664
>aside of compression algorithms
Nowadays it's the only thing that matters nowadays. LZMA2 and zstd eat RAR compression for breakfast. RAR was good before LZMA was a thing, but after that it's archive repair functionality and whatnot ceased to matter, compression was always about getting better compression ratios, and RAR failed to stay competitive in that regard.

>>103288188
This is all self-inflicted suffering from letting the FOSS ideology taking over software usability. Remember that the only reason the Linux kernel is anywhere near as viable as it is today is because thanks to GNU GPL your biggest ideological enemies such as Intel and Microsoft were able to contribute proprietary software blobs to the kernel that make it actually run on your computers. Without proprietary software Linux would remain a lousy hobby project of some Finnish student.

>>103285563
RAR is genuinely amazing for general compression. Much moreso than ZIP. 7z is either almost as good or a bit better, I can't remember nor have done any benchmarks yet (and I'm not sure how to get RAR on Linux, preferably without using Wine if possible).

>>103285733
>>103286722
You can shove Zucc's Sexually Transmitted Disease up your neovagina.

>>103289265
zucc's has been making technological leaps in virtual reality so the phat greasy /g/entoomen neet can afford it

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>>103285563
It just werkz

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>>103285563
>when will this awful piece of doodie format finally die?
Maybe when 7-zip finally incorporates one of the par2cmdline forks so that one can get parity data to recover dorked up archives.

QRD on why everyone hates the 7z dev?

>>103292675
contrarianism

>>103285590
Windows Vista was okay, the problem were the toasters they bundled it with. It was literally 7 with a different name.

>>103286797
good morning eugene

>>103288013
>it has to decompress the ENTIRE archive even if you only want to read a 1kbyte txt file
which is a thing you do in 90% of cases
also you can kind of solve this by sorting negligible-sized files at the beginning of the stream

>>103285563
Two weeks from now.

>>103289291
do you still need an internet connection/meta account to activate their devices?

>>103295008
netguard + https://github.com/basti564/Oculess

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RAAAARRR will neva die!!

>>103295023
Nice.

>>103295023
>Much of this app's functionality no longer works, and/or requires device owner which may cause issues. Read further for more information and non device-owner alternatives.

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>>103285563
in 40 days unless u register

>>103295053
still works also https://gist.github.com/wt666666/5a1cab2216a3fa50b8892debc6043209

>>103288013
>but solid compression is a fucking major pain in the ass
as opposed to liquid compression?

>>103295880
No solid compression means every file is compressed individually, in some use cases this can lead to much larger sizes (for ex. ROM sets where you have 100+ romhacks with only a few kilobytes different each, these would compress orders of magnitude better with solid compression).
Solid compression means compressing every file as 1 data stream, so if you want to decompress any one file, you have to decompress the entire archive.

Which is very fucking annoying when I just want to read a text file stored in a 20 gig archive.

>>103285563
i remember when i first encountered a rar file i didnt know what it was and i searched how to open rar files and i downloaded peazip and used that

>latest version shreks 7z even without using a solid archive and while still letting 7z cheat with partially solid blocks
>still the only way to make a compressed archive with whatever amount of parity (recovery record) you want built right into it (read: retard proof)
Never. There are no archive formats that even come close.

>>103286916
9 times out of 10 I don't even have to touch WinRAR's automatic detection for filename encoding, it remembers Shift-JIS "from last time". I got so fucking sick of 7zip showing me mojibake in Shift-JIS ZIPs and forcing me to go open WinRAR anyways that I just uninstalled 7z and made WinRAR default for everything. And then I went and paid for it too, because it just fucking works.

>>103297719
7zip does decompress much faster than winrar in practice at least on my machine.