>>107187986
and it's good, should be everywhere, zoomers shouldn't be glued to their mobile phones and social media.

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So what? I host forums and I couldn't give a flying fuck. What are they gonna do huh? My services are behind proxies and nobody knows who owns the domains.

>>107187986
And that's a good thing. We need to protect our children from online pedophiles.

less shitposters from italy

>>107188004
>zoomers shouldn't be glued to their mobile phones and social media.
this unironically, kids should have access to the web at all without supervision. adults only.

>>107188004
>>107188093
>10 years later
>children who have grown up in the walled garden of microsoft windows 12 and think the ai is their helpful friend now view all your shitposts as the insane ravings of a madman because you let children be shielded from reality all their lives

this isnt going to play out the way you think it is. It will create a generation of children who grow up to be adults who 100% blindly believe whatever the corporations/government tell them because during their formative years, they never had any kind of counter narrative. This will create a massive generational divide that will never be fixed, which will allow for even more systemic abuses by the government and corporations.

social media should be treated like alcohol

>>107188259
The generational divide is already in place- look at homeownership. There is significant vitriol from the younger generation realising they'll never own homes against the older generation with homes and investment properties etc.

>>107188004
>>107188093
But you already know that's not what's going to happen. They will continue to be connected 24/7, just now with someone looking over their shoulder. They'll continue sexting, looking at porn, and being really stupid with their personal info. The observer isn't going to encourage them to be smart about protecting their privacy, it actively wants to siphon as much of their info as possible. Whatever degeneracy you're pretending this will stop will go on- just now it'll be used to control and punish people arbitrarily.

>>107188334
>12 year old children know they wont own a home!!!!

because of social media. now remove social media from the equation. Good little boys and girls will think they can work hard and do their job and grow up to be blah blah.

look retard. they are trying to remake the millenial swindle. Millenials grew up right before social media was a thing, and as a result they were naive as fuck about the world around them, which allowed them to be tricked and cheated out of the oppertunities that did still exist for them. They ran around with big dumb smiles on their faces, helping people who hated them out. They happily obeyed when boss man told them to train their own replacements. They didnt think twice when the government told them to harm themselves by not having kids and not starting families.

The government wants to roll black the clock to the 1980s and 90s, when the average person was still ignorant of reality. Where the only source of information came from the state. It will be much easier to collectively put us all in the grave when the time comes if a significant amount of us doesnt think anything is wrong.

Right now, even the average zoomer idiot can still spot fake ai articles and fake ai content. But the next generation wont, because without the counter balance of autists shouting into the void at them, they will blindly believe everything they see is real as they are taught to believe by the people who want an easier to control population.

>>107188334
>>107188259
thats why you need a present and educated father during your formative years, to tell and guide you throughout these dangers. "never belive what you see on the screen son!" or so.

the valid criticism is that these verifications will not resolve that, itll enshitify the web more. if the final point is really to protect kids, we need another solutions.

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>>107188259
more like children who used tech to make up id cards and generate facial recognition videos are now the tech overlords who know how to do stuff and 99.000% of the other children are not so completely brain dead that even 80 iq zoomer mongoloids of today are master race wunderkinds by comparison.

The only silver lining is that women will suffer, boomers will never ever get a pension and everyone who supports the government today, will die/suffer in one way or another.

>>107188786
>because of social media. now remove social media from the equation. Good little boys and girls will think they can work hard and do their job and grow up to be blah blah.
do you really think that professional NEETs like me who have not worked for 10 years do it because I once read on Facebook that I will never own a home or some shit? Are you that retarded?

>>107188799
imagine believing that IDs can't be verified
fucking retard

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>>107188810
>>107188786
and no:
>The government wants to roll black the clock to the 1980s and 90s, when the average person was still ignorant of reality. Where the only source of information came from the state. It will be much easier to collectively put us all in the grave when the time comes if a significant amount of us doesnt think anything is wrong.

is never ever going to work unless salaries just get 10x bigger, women get 10x easier and finding a job is 10x easier. No amount of attempts of blocking porn or real discourse will work. If the jews did not manage to make people like them after 20 years of trying to censor the internet, nothing can be done about people sharing information.

Even today, online ID for the most part is just providing a face id - it is meaningless. https://use-their-id.com/ works. and other methods work too.... even the so called online id is just an iq check

>>107188827
they can't. i can always use a leaked ID from the tea app leak or the 10000 other leaks. you cannot verify that me using some id, is the person whose id is the owner of the id. I can just make a video with AI to pass the verification process and the ID is itself valid.

>>107188827
>>107188840
furthermore, in many ways these laws are going to actually limit the accesss of people over 18 to the internet as a horny 12 years old boy is goign to be even more creative than a boomer like me. Using AI to make life videos of a stolen / leaked ID card is fun and all but a 12 years old boy will just steal his mom's id card and make some videos of her while sleeping. Creativity is lost on the boomers and millennials and a horny boy will always triumph. If the horny boy cannot cheat the system it will just rape some 13 years old girl and that is a just way of rebelling against the modern world.

>>107188840
>>107188860
american IDs might not. most of the rest of the world has been using IDs for decades, and we know that IDs have ways of verification.

>leaks
are you retarded or just pretending? >>107188799 literally said kids can make up IDs. there is a whole fucking difference between making up something and using something from someone else, you tech illiterate retard.

>>107188975
first you try a made up ID
then you try a leaked ID
then you steal ID from someone else
And in the end you just use a website not part of the blocked list.
There are like 12 different ways someone mentioned on how to ignore any ID laws.
I just do not care about going into details. For as long as even a single russian has a website with porn on his server in siberia, all of humanity has access to porn.
for as long as a single Uzbekistani has a 4chan like webiste on his dark web onion server, all of humanity has access to social media not controlled by (((them))).

Most of these laws only work on people who are so retarded they will give their ID to pornhub when pronhub asks.

>>107188004
You know, zoomers are adults now. I'm nearly thirty. I own a house. I've been on 4chan since I was 14. You're thinking of gen alpha, and the answer is that you should be shot in the head for supporting your own shackles

>>107187986
Starlink chads eatin' good tonight.

>>107188093
women shouldn't be allowed to read.

>>107188006
How do you pay for the domains?

>>107189952
Like their aren’t tons of domains even the government can’t figure out.
They were running a 100,000 cell phone sim farm in new york by a nation state, but couldn’t figure out which one it is.

>>107189991
>but couldn’t figure out which one it is.
Anon, I...

>>107189952
Italy can ask Verisign to remove his domain and they'll respond with something along the lines of

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You have 19 lookups left today

The internet is American and Americans don't care about your retarded Italian ideas.

>>107187986
we wuz Romans and shieet. Pathetic.

>>107190477
Google keeps sending me "we can't confirm your age, please scan your rectum" emails to me now, even though my account itself is over 18 years old.
The fact this is being pushed everywhere is not a coincidence. Neither is the fact that chatgpt was recently taken over by Israel.

>>107190527
Google isn't the internet.

Also if you don't have a dozen or so burner gmails these days you're using google wrong.

>>107190727
>missing the entire point
The noose is tightening. Big tech and country laws walking in lock step. I don't care how many burners you have. Many sites don't take email addresses for sign up that aren't part of the cabal. Only a matter of years.

>>107188006
>nobody knows who owns the domains.
I think you're very wrong about that.

>>107190527
Serves you right for cucking yourself off in a closed wall garden. But did you learn?

>>107190761
>Many sites don't take email addresses for sign up that aren't part of the cabal
Then they just demonstrated why they don't want users.

If more people took such a stance aint none of 'em bother trying it because they know they'll not get away with it.

>>107190793
>muh closed garden
I'm constantly amazed by how retarded the average channers is thinking that they are safe because they post on this shithole. Its only a matter of time before they take everything that isn't offline. Or if you are online, they will tie you to your real name anyway, without you giving it to them. Enjoy 4chan going on more obscure protocols and dying like ham radio.

>>107190806
People won't though. This should be obvious. It just needs to hit critical mass before you no longer have a haven, moron, no matter how superior you feel.

>>107190811
>Enjoy 4chan going on more obscure protocols and dying like ham radio.
To be fair, it's already pretty obscure. The location not the protocol. Will I enjoy it? Probably not. Will I lament? Doubtful. If I'm that bothered I'll up a replacement.

>>107190811
>It just needs to hit critical mass before you no longer have a haven, moron
*only* because people *keep* bending over and taking it. That dynamic needs adjusting or that is all you can expect. In fact, you can expect it to accelerate.

>>107190938
>If I'm that bothered I'll up a replacement.
It will be barren. You won't draw any users to talk to.
>*only* because people *keep* bending over and taking it.
And yet they will continue. People as a mass are very predictable. The individual doesn't matter here. The game is won, even if it's not over yet.

>>107190980
>The game is won, even if it's not over yet.
I strongly suspect you are accurate.

That's not a reason to make it easy for them.

>>107191039
Sure. I mean, I'll go offline before I give them my ID. But I won't be shocked when it happens.

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>>107187986
italian here

nothing landed, out of 45 sites that were demanded to ask for age verification only 2 responded

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>>107187986
MAMA MIA!

>>107188093
The parents responsibility should not be pawned off at the expense of other people's rights. Anyone pushing for ID and censorship are Palantir pawns. In fact, the Age verification laws only allow the current monopolies on SocMed to maintin the monopolies through censorship. The goal of the circular data farms for AI are for this purpose.