Why does the internet seem to get "emptier" by the day? I mean most places seem like a ghost town with barely any activity. It almost seems like people just disappeared, which shouldn't be possible.This isn't a schizo post either, just a genuine observation. What is causing the apparent slowdown of all online activity? Where are all the people going? Are people just slowly disconnecting from the online space and doing something else with their lives? Was there a massive amount of bot activity everywhere that has suddenly stopped over the last couple of years, which makes the internet seem slower than it used to be?The quality of the interactions online has also seen a massive drop. On /g/ 10 years ago during the last ram price spike you had genuinely good discussions and insightful posts about the situation. Now it's just a bunch of pepe pictures with "Lmao I got mine" and almost no genuine insight such as calculating the die-sizes between fabs and calculating output and decrease in supply from HBM to calculate when the supply shock should be over. This was just a random example but even hackernews is slowly dying out.A couple of potential factors that I can think of>Everyone primarily interacts through places like discord which isn't on the public web anymore>Since 2022 LLM breakthrough most people interact with their LLM instead of with other humans online anymore>Economic situation is so bad that people are too busy with work to use the internet anymore>Internet quality has dropped so much that there is a downward spiral of quality users leaving the internet, which lowers quality, which causes more to leave.I'm guessing it's the last mentioned option because I am also considering leaving this place (not 4chan, the entire internet) as it's not even worth visiting these places anymore.
Everyone is hidden away in their discords, nobody posts anything effortful outside of discord or twitter, if you're not in those discords, you don't get to see it.
>>107925128The emptiness is the chemo that will save the internet as bloated social media sites lose the ability to support themselves.
>>107925269This. Everything is locked down behind log-in walls and private areas hosted on big tech servers. This is what happened to all the stuff that used to be on forums and wikis. The forums and wikis are ghost towns because everyone decided to>join the discord!10 years ago. Ensuring all of that stuff will be lost forever the moment discord decides to ban the server. Of course no one will have archived it.Normalfags are on shit like facebook, twitter, instagram and the other big networks. Even on shit like youtube and reddit you won't see half of the posts because they're shadow banned. If you don't have an account you won't see any posts at all. Which is why I hate people that link to twitter so much. Website doesn't even work if you don't have over a phone number. The few forums that are left are just a sea of twitter links.Any place that isn't like this has been flooded with bots to the point where the place isn't worth using. Like here.
>Why does the internet seem to get "emptier" by the dayBecause it has effectively become consolidated to 5-10 websites for daily useSmaller websites aren't searchable on Google, they get less traffic and eventually shut down which leads to a decreased total number of sites annually.Those aforementioned 5-10 websites use personalized algorithms, short form content, infinite scrolling among other user hostile design which leads to content being served with 0 effort rather than being discovered through curiosityThere's also 0 new urban legends due to the need of everything being fact checked, millions latching onto them and no incentive to being created unless there is money to be made from.The influx of billions of people onto the internet has ironically made it more lonely, empty and unsocial than it was before
>>107925347facebook, instragram and reddit all have dwindling userbases and a drop in posts, let alone effort posts.
>>107925444They're reverting back to Web 1.0 where only a few users would post and the rest would be lurkers. Subreddits literally require you to have a karma threshold before posting on big subs
It's going to get a lot worse as Youtube is actually dropping users in favor of tiktok. And the worst of it all is that data shows users PREFER AI generated content. Straight up users continue scrolling the moment they realize something ISN'T AI. Most users are not like us so no one is going to cater to us.The 4chan situation is also completely unstable, how many more years (months?) will it be viable to have captcha that keep bots out? There will be an obvious inflection point where one day 4chan is still usable and the next day it's just dead because of the AI activity.
>>107925444Their userbases aren't dwindling. They're being shoehorned into ever growing list of sub-areas where you only see content you agree with or content hand picked by the AI to enrage you to drive engagement. They're still there they're just endlessly scrolling and only interacting with a small sub-set of users.>no effort postsThe average IQ of people has gone through the floor in the last decade. Effort posts are now considered "walls of text". The average person can barely read now and has zero attention span. They see a paragraph and they scroll past it to get to the next vertically filmed video or three word reply they can react to.Another issue is everyone wants to be a>content creatornow and is desperately attempting to monetize their posts and get famous. But they don't understand that it's a rigged game and only hand picked people get placed on the trending lists.
I don't even think the internet will survive as a network. We will see WW3 pretty soon and the networks will fracture into their own smaller networks for every surviving polar. American internet, European internet, Chinese internet etc.
>>107925128this thread was made by a bot. only pre approved anons can make threads.
>>107925128>Now it's just a bunch of pepe pictures with "Lmao I got mine" and almost no genuine insightmobile users took everything over, it's them that you can thank for the drop in discussion quality. it's discouraging to post anything effortful when you're always going to get drowned out by people who are bored sitting on the toilet and trying to pass the time by posting some ragebait.personally i just don't bother writing anything up publicly outside of a few select places, because it's pointless to spend an hour writing a decent post when the next twenty are going to have less than two seconds of thinking put into them anyways. i don't mean to sound like some high iq snob with this but it's just the reality of the two mediums clashing: if you have both people using a full-sized keyboard and a large monitor occupying the same space as users who can't see more than a single tab at a time (and there's a lot more of them, too) the discussion quality is unfortunately just going to drop to the lowest common denominator.the only solution that i can see is to create a space where only desktop/laptop users are allowed to post in. i'm a little surprised that there hasn't been something like a pc-only social network blowing up already as this is something that i very much desire (and i'm sure a lot of other people do too), could be an untapped market perhaps
>>107925598check out this hugely insightful post about how people using mobile phones have ruined everything. have you made an interesting thread at all? no? you couldnt if you tried, 4chan have a list of bots and anons who can make a thread. i supposedly failed 20 captchas yesterday when trying to make a thread but never fail one when posting.
>>107925598I miss it so much bro.
>>107925674now look at this equally insightful and knowledgeable post. these guys have really got their game ip. rather than whinge and moan they make amazingly insightful posts
>>107925637just tried it, the captcha is more difficult when creating a thread than when making a reply but it's still solvable. you're either not smart enough to solve it or you're indeed blocked, idk what to tell you bud
>>107925739link to thread?
>>107925739and yes, its different, but im able to count 4 spikes on stars and 7 shapes, some with dots and some not. im not brown.
I welcome it's demise. Shit can't die soon enough.
funny how none of the troll shitposting spamming retards can do the captchas, it's like a filter on the ability to be attentive
>>107925851>>107925739>>107925789link to thread? still waiting
>>107925859Look, the paranoid schizophrenic anon has found another pattern in the wild.
>>107925851captcha is so ridiculously easy. it's just that they're all brown and low iq
>>107925575Polar bears are brutal.
>>107925357So glad the urban legends are gone, was so tired of hearing retards yap their nonsense.
>>107925873Correct. Takes roughly 10 secs to nail that shit and that with peripheral vision alone.
>>107925877>>107925873>>107925866yet you couldnt make a thread to post the link. getting defensive and insulting is always the same when faggots get caught in their deceitfulness. be great if you could prove me wrong. you cant
>>107925897True but only once you get the cookie for the trivial one.The tier you get with no cookies is requiring focused attention.
>>107925128theres a huge age demographic which is moving away from the internet in general, and isnt making as much of their presence publiclike, hi, im 29, just old enough to remember the pool being closed due to aids, not being old enough to have been in that circle of internet culture at the timei stopped using social media 10 years ago, i use a flip phone, i try to use offline stuff as much as possible, ive mostly moved away from PC gaming in favor of simplifying my computer presenceits because i watched it all get really bad, really fast, and had just enough education and experience on how it all worked but not enough long term commitment to itwhen things went to shit i didnt feel an obligation to stick around, the computer hobbyist and internet spaces were disposable, something that i could simply give up and move on froma lot of people older than me cant bring themselves to do that, a lot of people younger than me didnt see the change so this is their normalcy and theyre committed to itpair this what else has been said early into the thread, whats actually out there is fairly private now because public means are outright unusable nowi would never post my daily experience casually into the void like a facebook wall, or just ramble about my day on twitter, and its not because i dont want to share those things or that i dont want people to read those things, its that so much of it would be mixed with garbage advertisement and bots and scammers and spam and i wouldnt want to use thatpeople would rather make small controlled circles they can manage
>>107925935>i would never post my daily experience casually into the void like a facebook wall, or just ramble about my day on twitterno one fucking wants to read that, keep it privatepeople want media, memes, ideas being discussed and that requires no privacy, yet it's all dying
>>107925935i recommend trying out some old internet culture platforms that still exist for social interactionim telling you to go make a habbo hotel account, and just wander aroundtry out secondlifehell, get on one of those club penguin clonesyou're going to be around a ton of people who have similar views on wanting their internet experience to feel like it used to, for reasons other than just nonsensical nostalgia, they prefer the added layer to their social experience online and find it more controllable, cleaner and engagingthere isnt a feed of content to run throughin habbo your social interaction is a small group, maybe a coordinated event, maybe its random game roomsin secondlife there is no short form content, no posts into the void, its scheduled meetings and voice chat or virtual crowds all kinda vibing togethereven if those arent really your things theyre fascinating to experience for a moment because it feels like stepping back in time 15+ years in what internet social interaction once was, it feels a lot more alive and detailed, less vague and generalized theres no corporate presence or advertising of anything real, its all roleplay and virtual companies and its done for fun
>>107925975>people want media, memes, ideas being discussed and that requires no privacy, yet it's all dyingYou must not have seen how normalfags use the internet then.>>107925935I don't even have a flip phone. I've reduced my footprint to almost nothing and all the old forums I used to use finally went offline and weren't archives. So I'm now a ghost.My goal is to stop feeding the beast information about myself so it can't build up more of a profile on me than it already has. I also shit up the profile it does have on me with lies by dropping a few here and there.I'll be offline for good the moment there are no more imageboards with people on them. I'm really close to that already. Since the smaller ones are just as bad as discord and IRC is dying pretty quickly as of late.
still no link. looks like my inkling is valid. three times on three boards in three threads anons have failed my challenge.
people like my mom have been using facebook for 15+ years, they view it like an obligation, theyll use it forever, its how they keep in touch with people, it became a core part of their life in many waysit centralized a ton of the internet for them, instead of 100+ sites they would visit and explore, they now visit the one site and explore its componentsi viewed facebook the same as any other miscellaneous internet thing, it came and went for me, one day it wasnt something i wanted to continue with and moved onjust like dozens of flash game websites, forums, smaller social media platforms, imaging sharing sites, web comic sites, etcone day you stop visiting addictinggames, you stop playing tanks and pawn and razeone day was the last time i went to danball i used the runescape forums for the last timei stopped reading buttersafei stopped using funnyjunkand i stopped logging into facebookand i stopped using twitterand i stopped watching youtubeand there was no difference in those things to me, its just something that came and went
>>107926062You're challenging someone that's raging about a thread that was one of the few on /g/ yesterday that had actual discussion happening. You shouldn't expect any truth from them.You're right they've made it as annoying as possible to post threads in an attempt to get people to buy a pass. It's why bots and shills have free reign over all boards now while every thread is just a handful of real people pissing into the void. They removed the IP counter for a reason.
one day will be the last day i post hereone day will be the last day i check an emailone day will be the last day i turn on a computerthings come and go and separation from computer technology and the internet is more and more appealing to people as time goes on, you cling on to something you enjoy but as it changes in ways you dont like or dont understand eventually you move away from it and do something elsenothing is going to bring back the internet culture i remember, its gone, there is no replicating it, one day it simply ended and this will end toothis has been deranged internet philosophy with your host: some retard
>>107926062you're a confused schizophrenic
>>107926079i was so frustrated that i thought about filming myself solving the captcha. it wasnt on this board but even so, it’s probably pre approved anons that can make threwds. funny thing is someone made a thread but they didnt link it to btfo me, they didnt cause they’re pre approved and they knowmit>>107926103ouch, meanie.
>>107925444Reddit has mod problems and eternal september. All the effort posters get pissed off and leave due to mods removing/banning them and are replaced with mobile users who don't post anything and who tend to be lower iq. Most mods remove way more content and users than they add to the subs which will kill a sub over time. Almost every sub has some crazy rules to post anything or a mod/bot immediately removes it. Then the admin started suggesting posts from other subs based on the sub you are on which cross-pollinates communities unnaturally. Large parts of the population does not like reading and writing and is not very good at it 40-60%. Thats why TikTok does so well. You don't have to be literate to use it.
