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Discussion of Free and Open Source Diffusion Models

Prev: >>107966185

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP
re/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneo
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext


>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2

>ZiT
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo

>Wan 2.2
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/wan22/

>LTX-2
https://huggingface.co/Lightricks/LTX-2

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Base
https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>NetaYume
https://huggingface.co/duongve/NetaYume-Lumina-Image-2.0
https://nieta-art.feishu.cn/wiki/RZAawlH2ci74qckRLRPc9tOynrb

>Illustrious
https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Misc
Check Metadata of an Image: https://sprites.neocities.org/metadata/viewer
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link

>Large Language Model Talk
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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remove comfyui from the OP
comfyUI killcount:
>WAN 2.5/2.6
>Hunyaun 3.0 Instruct
>Seedream 3/4
>Flux Pro/Max
as long as comfyui remains in the OP, local will continue to sell out to saas
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>drag drop video from civitai
>spaghetti mess
>absolutely no organization or cohesion
>groups overlapping each other
>nested groups
>boilerplate nodes
god damn I think I understand why some people get intimidated from using comfy when you have literal apes making workflows.
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>>107970473
They're apparently retraining it from scratch, won't see "Z Base" until it's better than Klein in 3-4 months. They know their model sucks, which is why.
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>>107970174
Apparently that's with thinking disabled. Most of the spicy samples from their Discord was only with it on, so probably around 15 secs per gen on a 3090 with thinking enabled.
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>>107970499
I was thinking it would be a great troll to upload kino images to civitai but embedded with the most retarded and bloated workflow imaginable
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what's best wan 2.2 shitmix if i want to animate my 2d henti. don't wanna bother with loras, also they might not work since i'm a vramlet
no trolling please
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>>107970493
2 Klein is better than Pro/Max, unless they have updated their base model weights to reflect their superior distillation process.
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>>107970508
Source?
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>>107970596
His ass.
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>>107970596
>>107970599
X insider leak.
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>>107970526
i wrote a node that replaces my workflow with a broken default kek
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>>107970602
lmao sure thing bro
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>>107970625
It was here a couple of threads back.
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Does CUDA 13 break something on windows in comfy?
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actual insider here. they're working hard on tightening safety filters after that one incident. don't ask me where i heard this, but it was also shared a couple threads back
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nope, usin it rn
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>>107970673
What I said is true. Initially they had 2 models, an Edit model and Base. But you don't hear about their "Edit" model, because it's separate. But after Klein released, the community wouldn't accept that, so they're training on a different model arch that has both models baked in. The source is a tweet from a few days ago, but given the Chinese community has already accepted this and it's also their culture to not tell you, I believe them.
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>>107970842
the edit model is still on their github readme (the only thing they bother updating), stop bullshitting
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>>107970842
China does what China does.
They'll take klein 4b architecture, add a few layers, inject noise, and then train it, delivering it with flux vae2.
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>>107970857
Yes, and if they release it as is, no one is gonna use it. For one, it's more slopped than Klein. Second, it's a separate model that has to be tuned separately. The Chinese aren't dumb, they know it's better to keep you anticipating the model and just train a better one than release shit.
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>they know it's better to keep you anticipating the model and just train a better one than release shit.
qwen, hunyuan, and glm would like a word
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>>107970875
Let's be honest.
They release Z Turbo and announce shortly thereafter that they will deliver Base soon:

1) Due to its success, they decide to continue training Base because it would not have met expectations (remember when they described the visual quality of Base as low on GitHub).
2) During training, there is an international outcry over grok and csam. They test their model and realize it can do the same thing, so they decide to increase security to avoid the backlash.
3) While they are in security training, flux Klein comes along, which is better than their base model. No idea what they're doing now, probably more training.

I would bet that's how it went and how it's going right now.
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as long as it doesn't produce mangled garbage and doesn't have a shitty license im good with whatever
but this is local we're talking about, it's never that easy
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>>107970864
hopefully yes
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>>107970906
4) the team responsible fully intended to release the base model but were otherwise stopped by the higher ups within the company or a potential merging or moving of teams within the alibaba ecosystem. And everything since then has been biding time waiting for approval that may never come.
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>>107970921
Shut up license troon
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>>107970906
>better than their base model
Better than ZIT as well at realism. It's better than NBP as well. The Flux.2 VAE has solved professional photography, and it works extremely well as an edit model.
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*gulp* whatever you do. Don’t read the latest random anime man tweet.
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>>107970944
Just say that you're the random anime type
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>>107970944
bdsqlsz bros??!?!?!!??!?!
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>>107970969
we already got the news >>107970180
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>>107970973
sorry but I trust more the chinese twitter anime fag then anonymous...
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>>107970969
>>107970973
so do we begin the group jerk off session?
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has anyone been able to train 4b base with onetrainer? 9b works but 4b throws an error when loading
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>>107970456
Is Wan2GP any good for i2V?
I just wanna make /d/ vids.
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>>107970969
Screencap this, it is NOT coming tomorrow. It will be that Ace Step model.
t. bdsqlsz's bdsqlsz
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>>107970395
HunyuanImage-3.0-instruct is in the checklist of their "open-source plan" but not released yet, ideally they aren't lying
https://github.com/Tencent-Hunyuan/HunyuanImage-3.0
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>>107971055
llmao.cpp doesnt support it, and i dont think any of the UIs wants to implement it, so it's pretty much DOA
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>>107971037
video anons moved over here >>>/wsg/6072442
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>>107970456
>>Maintain Thread Quality
>https://rentry.org/debo
>https://rentry.org/animanon
why are these back in the op? did the mods let the monkey escape containment?
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>>107970456
replace the rentry links with
https://rentry.org/ranfaggot
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>>107970456
>>Maintain Thread Quality
>https://rentry.org/debo
>https://rentry.org/animanon
why is the troll baker back? are mods not doing their job? where is our 24/7 janny?
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>>107970969
I think people have already moved on and are starting to train klein. It's the right thing to do considering how they've led everyone on. Fuck those people. I hope the way they've played this bites them in the ass. In fact, I hope they wait even longer, that way, there will be more klein loras, more klein finetunes, more nodes for klein.
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just bake a new thread
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>>107971104
see >>107971092
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>>107971085
>>107971092
>>107971103
reminder to report posts like these derailing the thread either for off-topic or for instigating flame wars, specially now if z-image releases
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about:config
dom.ipc.processCount = 1
dom.ipc.processCount.webIsolated = 1

do it, thank me later.
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Even if z base were significantly worse than flux klein, it would still be the most commonly adopted.
How do I know this?
I wanted to teach myself AI, but accidentally ended up in brain research. We are mentally challenged, herd animals, and Flux is a burned brand.
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>>107970493
>Seedreams success is owed entirely to ComfyOrg and Comfyanon
woaawh
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>>107971024
even if it releases, perhaps it's not even particularly better for jerking off on release.

could be just more interesting for training.
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If it actually happens all four anons ITT must post their faces
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>>107971126
flux 2 vae is much better than the vae z-image is using, 4b is also more appealing for your general user than 6b even though you can lower that to 7? gb VRAM with Q8
>>107971125
can you just stop this? i did not even know what was written in those rentry until you started spamming them from the moment you wake up to the moment you go to sleep
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>>107971146
That's the funny thing about our thinking organ.
Feelings > hard facts

If two or three people make enough noise against Klein and for Z Base, it's enough to negate your own ability to think.

But for now, we can only drink tea.
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>>107971104
klein training has been a disappointment for human character loras imo.
for zit you only need like 15-20 clean images and the likeness is great. klein seems to be way more demanding for mediocre results, which is why i am looking forward to zbase in 2 weeks
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>>107971170
for me it was ok, i think the difference mainly comes from z-image being a turbo model, we should wait until we get a proper base model to compare them. z-image turbo trains "better" but also collapses much faster
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>>107971170
>human character loras
It doesn't need a LoRA. And comparing Z LoRAs to what Klein edit is capable of out of the gate is like comparing a 20B model to a 1T parameter model. The model arch is just way better than what Z can output. 2 Klein is SOTA.
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>>107971159
>steal collage
>bake 3 hours later than this one
>"real thread"
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>>107971197
>forcing thread war bullshit
you know everything was GUCCI before you woke up and started shitting up the thread right? anyway im not going to reply anymore, kys.
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>>107971170
> I'm training my z base to z turbo quality, it's really easy
Did you overlook the part in the paper that mentions fine-tuning the base with 24,000 hours of h800 (a slimmed-down version of h100)?

Oh, the base will definitely be easy to train, as easy as z turbo kek
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>bake the quality thread
>z-image release announced
based and blessed thread. this is the one
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>>107971256
Actually it was posted earlier in this thread, I just missed it, kek >>107970969

Real thread, fake thread, it dont matter. Its culture either way
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>>107971209
Welcome to the "club", you know the one. There are dozens of us.
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>>107971291
Still a rumor desu
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btw if z-images releases could some kind anon bake a comfyui general again, just for us to have a place to post for a bit. otherwise we will just have to scatter to some other boards
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One of these schizos comes from my IP range and is constantly blocked between noon and evening.
Schizo, please wear an LDG T-shirt in case we meet while shopping.
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we need a comfyui thread for saas containment, i agree
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>>107971316
it's the same for me, and i am living in the jungles of brazil. i just wish they make e-mail verification permanent at this point for my ip range
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>>107971333
I'm from southern Germany, I think Ani lives in Munich or south of there.
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>>107971316
i was ranged banned also, this faggot is ruining all discussion, i come here for news etc. I don't want to have to scroll through hundreds of one spackers one liner troll posts, its tiring. if they are uk based they should just contact the ISP for abuse of communications act. persistent cases like this is against the law in the UK.
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>>107971365
>>107971316
>>107971333
The schizo uses proxies from all over.
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>>107971365
He's just burning through gorillions of proxies. He's from cali or canada or some similar troon place.
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>>107971316
>>107971333
Same here, because these retards arent banned we all have to suffer. Also a reminder to ignore posts like these >>107971085 >>107971103 https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/why%20are%20these%20back%20in%20the%20op/
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>>107971398
hands
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I used Flux2klein, but it's too censored. Is QWEN any better for image editing?
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>>107971411
Way heavier on hardware but at least it didn't try to turn panties into shorts. You'll still need loras tho if you want to do actual porn.
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>>107971316
I’ve also been randomly banned by this shit and like everyone else here I don’t have an easy way around it because of how my ISP works. I genuinely hate these schizos
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>>107971398
fixed 100% better ur welcome btw
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>>107971441
Your vision model captioned the mangled hands lol
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>>107971433
posts like these can be reported for off-topic and spamming
>>107971434
ani doesn't care, even though the whole threads despises him at this point. another thread for z-image omni might be a good idea if it really releases and this is still happening. could be a noodle general or just something specific for z-image
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>>107971388
Fuck off asshole, I've been range banned trying to warn you girls to ignore the drama and actually discuss local diffusion. Just wait until the mods step in an delete the actual spammer's posts/duplicate threads.

Anyway, new radiance x0 x32 https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Radiance/tree/main seems to werk, posting gens soon
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>>107971458
NTA. I don’t really care who it is. I just want the individuals involved to stop or be stopped.
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>>107971462
cute!
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>>107971458
totally natural that it only stops whenever there is a bake without the rentry and with your UI on the OP.
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>>107971443
fuck, fixed with zimg inpaint
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>>107971462
I can feel all 4 channels here struggling
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>>107971479
>>107971465
Better not to give him attention, just don't engage
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anyaways, either the mods or a new general if z-image releases will fix this. just ignore his sperg out and usual gaslighting
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>>107971514
how much for sucky sucky?
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my wife taking a picture of me
>>107971535
do you accept crypto then?
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>I've been range banned trying to warn you girls
>girls
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>>107971566
>>107971450
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*glomp*
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>>107971572
LONDON
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>>107971572
>>107971579 (me)
What's the original picture/anime?
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>>107971586
fate strange fake, currently airing. I added the background description. I genned twice and it got the hair wrong both times, but I'm a vramlet and cant upgrade to a bigger VL model for captioning on the fly :(
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>>107971592
>I genned twice and it got the hair wrong both times
Good, I like the Z hairstyle. That said, you know you're allowed to manually edit your prompt, right? RIGHT?
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>>107971592
https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
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>>107971597
>having to put it ANY effort whatsoever
picrel is what im running, I just add something to it to guide or exclude text
>>107971602
I have joycaption but it's especially garbage, at least compared to GEMMA or QWEN3VL models. But I guess it can do NSFW better. But I don't gen NSFW so I don't really care.
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>>107971560
man, zit can't do panties. It'll give you exactly what you want but fuck-up the panties

'OK, I'll use a lora' I said to myself. Oh look! Missing arms, adherence completely destroyed, flat matte skin, still no panties.
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>>107971616
>'OK, I'll use a lora' I said to myself. Oh look! Missing arms, adherence completely destroyed, flat matte skin, still no panties.
You have to inpaint using the lora, same as nipples and pussy.
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>>107971616
inpaint with the lora, using crop and stitch nodes and the modelpatch for the cnet (new one is FUCKING GOOD)
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>>107971411
>>107971537
neat
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>>107971623
Wait, wait. What do you mean by new one?
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>>107971629
the 2601 loras fixed ALL the frying, and I mean ALL OF it, check the examples in the card too. they also added a lite variant if you just need simple stuff.
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>>107971610
I use that model too. It will give you anything. It's a little wordy and heavy on the prose, so sometimes, you have to edit its output to get a better prompt but it's definitely the way to go, especially if you don't quite know what you want, it will fill in the details and give you new ideas
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>>107971634
How's the lite differrent from the other?
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>>107971634
Holy shit, thanks, I don't know how I missed it.
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>>107971640
not really, labs do LLM captioning + human review, models are trained on slop prompts
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>>107971641
Lite is weaker and faster, 2gb vs 6gb, it fits on smaller cards better. I use lite for img2img LLM prompting tasks, and the heavy one for inpainting.
>>107971643
ure welcome bro, it's really fucking good compared to the 2 previous versions where you HAD to basically do an extra denoising/refining step to remove all the fucking burn in.
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>>107971666
i dont think so, checked last month's commits and it's not there. not that haoming uses descriptive commits to begin with lmao
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i am so fucking tired of anons supporting the drama thread. all of you deserve to choke on that trans nigger's cock and die. you braindead morons are supporting the slander of an innocent dev who is our only hope at saving this hobby from jeet enshittification. you deserve what you get, don't cry when you have to buy comfy coins to gen and there is no viable alternative because you chose to slander someone with more talent than all of you combined. kill yourselves
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>>107971085
>>107971092
>>107971103
Do you ever sleep
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>>107971537
>>107971572
I really like the color grading. What's your secret?
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>>107971684
Who cares, if that happens, I'll code my own shit.
Claude is enough to build a gradio for the 2-3 workflows I use.
Anyone who still relies on other programmers in 2026 deserves no better.
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Kill ani
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>>107971572
>fingers
Flux?
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>>107971735
Kill ani
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this is the real thread, i will use this one
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Ani delenda est
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>>107971729
'Kemono Tech Foundation was founded by two former Stability AI engineers'

Why were you excluded by rombach? Didn't they offer to take you with them after they founded BFL and left Stability AI? Remote work would certainly not have been a problem. Kek
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Hey #1 ani fan and defender here(totally not ani) AMA
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>>107971801
Not enough dicks to suck there
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>>107971790
Sorry - that was a sore point. I'm sorry. Sometimes you just miss the big chance of your life. But I think it's great that you're not giving up and are now randomly annoying people on 4chan.
It might result in another chance for you to work at a unicorn startup, just be more persistent.
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>>107971833
sure thing, that is why this stops the moment his UI is in the OP. the issue with goal oriented schizos on 4chan, especially shills, is that their intention betrays them every time.
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>>107971833
Same, thats why "someone" wants the rentry removed and anustudio added to the OP every thread
Kill ani
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>>107971833
Yes, retards are indeed unable to see and comorehend the world around them
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funny to think it stops at just getting his UI in the OP. he started harassing /adt again after his UI got removed from there, after he did the same thing to get it there in the first place; we seen this go further before, and once he gets his UI in the OP he starts proxy samefagging to get comfyui out of the OP.
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>>107971888
Always anyone but you
No wonder you're such a worthless failure
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>>107971833
ani said many times he has nothing to do with any of this. he wants threads to be peaceful first and foremost and i think everybody else want that too, the drama is tiring. that's why we all just need to start ignoring schizo rentry bakes. jannies won't always be here to delete them so it's on anons to do what is right. ran is alone and will give up if anons just reject her attempts to start drama.
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>3 weeks vac
>open /ldg/
>still giving audience to ani
jesus, use a better ui, nigga. his imgui approach is shit. anyways, flux klein is a flop btw. censored af.
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>>107971916
You seem to have good contact to julien
Can you tell him from me that no one cares what he thinks and that the fries wait for him?
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>>107971924
i wouldn't say so. some anons just don't visit this thread every day and this can be confusing, especially when ran does her usual false flag shtick. ranfaggot rentry in the op could be useful but that might be considered off-topic by some, maybe. this something to be discussed.
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Funny how he always knows where tje avatartroon is or what it says
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Can sompne ask trani who the schizo really is? Debo, ran, hlky, yup, rainy girl, all of them, some of them .... i'm lost in his schizo lore
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Oh yeah, don't forget to report Ani's early thread
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>>107971958
yeah i agree. but there needs to be a way to make everyone here aware about ran's trolling
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>>107971958
>>107971975
>>107971980
>>107971981
How will you look back on this is a year's time?
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>>107971990
Not many people can boast about having put in the effort to ruin a general thread on anonymous imageboard for months
People will sing song for generations to come
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>>107972005
Look how fast you scramble to deflect and project when faced with a simple question
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>>107971999
all you need is one schizo and a bunch of proxies. most of it can be automated too. the fault here is on the mods for not doing something to solve this long-term. btw the gaslighting isn't for us, it's for the mods that have no context on what is happening.
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>>107972011
They should all have sex with each other then die of AIDS
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>>107971999
i hate the upper level jannies that dont implement anything to help non-schizos deal with them
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>>107972018
would be just as exploitable by ani or anyone with multiple proxies. anon boards are pretty much i just stick around at this point out of nostalgia, but it feels like it's time to move on
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>>107971947
>>107971850
>>107971794
>>107971765
Klein as upscaler?
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>>107972026
i think a really long new device post cooldown would help together with ids
it would screw over phone posters but it could be made bypassable with a pass
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>>107971754
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Based mods
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thank you mods
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>made almost 100 posts to get people to move to a dogshit thread that has already been deleted
I'd kms if I was Julien, honestly
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Mods = Based. Also, new chroma does NOT like limbs....
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mods demonstrating they know nothing about this shit and he's just going to use a proxy. extremely unnerving anons wish to continue the drama faggotry
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>>107972046
>>107972049
>>107972053
>>107972061
>>107972062
there is no way this isn't the same "anon"
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>>107972062
>new chroma
Every chroma doesn't like limbs lol.
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>>107972073
we just went over how debo and tran abuse proxies. I wonder who it could possibly be
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>>107972083
dude you are abusing one right now, have some shame
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wow! so much more room to complain about the rentries, ranfaggot and debo! make sure to false flag ani too! it's all his fault haha
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Hey bros, what are my image to video options if I have 8gb of vram? Quantized wan 2.2?
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