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UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D, 9800X3D
Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Multiple manufacturers reporting issues on AM5 platforms. Do your research.
*On Raptor Lake microcode are mandatory

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Bad mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5080, 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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>HIGHGUARD HAS RELEASED
Massively anticipated PvP raid shooter "Highguard" has been relased to massive response!
Play today!
(Don't copy this into the next thread.)

>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2028
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon
Nvidia claim *not* to stop production of some Ti variants but low stocks and high prices everywhere.


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!
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good bake but ya messed up the previous link thoughbeit....
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just rangeban that faggot already
why does every thread on this godforsaken site have to have some fucking retarded schizo that isn't even interested in the topic but fucks up the threads for years because he was called a retard once in them in 2016
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>>107977029
Sorry. I was just too busy playing Highguard to notice it.
For future anons, the real previous thread is here: >>107973322
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>>107977065
>We really are make
lol
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Need a GPU to drive 3x 4K 60HZ panels for CCTV reasons (4 to 8 cameras on each screen) but am not gaming at all. What's the lowest power solution for this? I was looking at the Intel Arc A310 Omni View
>Single Slot
>4x HDMI
>50w TDP, only requires PCIe power
>$120
These Intel GPUs are essentially scaled up Intel iGPU's right? Stability should be OK?
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>>107977036
all good
i did the math anyway >>107977088 and regardless of how painful it may sound... the data is clear. $1200 for a 5070 ti is probably a good deal. OP was wrong to fiddle with the pasta over his subjective feelings.
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OK I built my pc, installed windows 11 (didn't activate with a key so lol), flashed my BIOS to the newest setting, updated my videocard and other drivers, set up firefox with ublock origin and sponsor skip, installed winrar and vlc and steam

What else do I have to do? Isn't there some settings in my bios or some shit? amd 9800x3d processor btw
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Why does this retard keep saying they're $1200?
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Did I make a mistake by getting a 5070ti instead of a 5080? I'm losing my mind.
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>>107977131
honestly i dont know, i simply took his posts at face value. Maybe it's in AUD or CAD monopolybux.
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You guys get mad about nicotroon being a control freak trying to make the OP be all his opinions. Then you get mad when someone makes the smallest change to your version when it's supposed to be a community driven OP. Insane hypocrisy.
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>>107977139
you're fucked if you needed that extra NVENC encoder but otherwise they perform quite similarly. I wouldn't stress over it.
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>>107977148
This OP has a slight change and nobody cares.
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>>107977152
Whoops small correction, the 5080 actually has a second DECODER, both feature dual encoders.

For 99.998% of users, this difference means exactly nothing.
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>>107977092
Do your cams record at more than 15 frames?
It sounds like iGPU would be fine. Get an intel cpu with integrated graphics.
You'll still need enough slots on the motherboard for the monitors though.
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>>107977152
>>107977162
Okay. The price/performance just seemed so ass, I just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger. 240 euro for 20fps more or something like that. I decided to put that saved money towards an OLED monitor. So, I just hope I made the right choice. Buying things is stressful.
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Price = Performance king belongs to your IGPU.
You got that shit included in your CPU and therefore the performance index is infinite for it had no cost.
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>>107977139
Not at all. 5080 is probably the closest to a redundant model in the 50 series.
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>>107977154
Why'd you remove alder lake completely?
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>>107977261
I didn't. Somebody else did along the way.
(I don't know what Alder lake is).
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which fucking one is the real thread
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>>107977291
The one that did not remove the 5080 from high-end
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>>107977139
Resale of 5080 will be better. You will only lose $200 for two years of gaming. That makes it the third cheapest card on the market behind the 5090 and 4090 witch will actually pay out for using them.
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>/pcbg/ would rather recommend a $1000-$1200 5070 ti or a $1400 5080 over a $699 9070 XT
The streets will not forget, in a year unless the 9070 XT ages terrible or nvidia releases some super black magic shit that makes them twice as fast there is no way the 9070 XT is SO BAD to the point where you would rather pay $1250 for a 5070 TI
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>>107977325
ummm last i checked the 9070 xt is still in the op. what's the issue?
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>>107977325
>super black magic shit that makes them twice as fast
Like DLSS 4.5?
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>>107977139
do you need 2 nvenc encoders?
You need the extra cuda cores?
I'm trying to workout what 5080 FOMO is about
Is it because it was $900 in November and now it's $1500?
Are you not getting enough FPS in your games?
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>>107977355
>I'm trying to workout what 5080 FOMO is about
because it's got "80" in the name (even though it's literally just what the 5070 should have been)
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>>107977332
Don't forget frame gen that actually works.
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>>107977363
they'll fix framegen in the next version of fsr (9070 xt will not support it)
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>>107977360
Well then the 9070xt should have been named 9060 and the 9060 bumped down.
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>>107977373
Definitely not my problem.
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Maybe nicotroon was right all along lmao this thread is insanely nvidia biased. Shilling people to buy 1000 dollar 5070 tis is a new low for this general.
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>>107977332
If you turn off DLSS the 9070 XT is just as fast, its not a fair comparison
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Bros, did I make a mistake buying a 4090? Am I missing out on 4090 performance at $549 with the release of DLSS 4.5?
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>>107977394
>am I missing out on additional performance
>the performance added by creating fake pixels and fake frames
uh, no
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>>107977391
If I cut one of my legs off, stumpy the local amputee can compete with me.
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>>107977394
Yes, I will buy you a 5060 in exchange.
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>>107977386
You're suggesting we tell people to spend more on a worse card?

9070 XT made sense before AMD hiked the price like $200.
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>>107977391
Or you can just use FSR 4 too. No one who actually plays games and doesn't spend their whole time brand warring on 4chan cares that schizos on pcbg say you need to "match image quality" like that one dlss schizo wannabe has been spamming. I've been playing through cyberpunk 2077 at 4k with FSR 4 ultra performance and it looks fine, it still looks a lot better than the native TAA even upscaling from such a low res. Could care less what the latest techtuber vids say about dlss 4.5
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>>107977394
no bro dlss 4.5 runs on fp8 instructions so te speed on 40 series is neglible, you will only feel a slow down when they move to FP4 but realistically by that time upscaling will be so good that you'll gladly take the performance penalty and realistically even with 4x performance from the fp4 cores, you have enough spare compute (1321 AI tops) to be able to emulate it at a higher precision, basically your spare compute in terms of AI tops doing fp8 compute is around 1320 while a 5070 TI is 1400 while doing fp4 spare computation so as long as nvidia does not do an amd and actually releases all the models even if they run worse on older gen you'll always get similar performance to a 5070 TI even if the model becomes heavier and runs on newer instructions
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>>107977409
see >>107977400
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>>107977434
Wait till you turn on Path Tracing HDR.
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>>107977426
Things I can spend a week's wages on:
1 video card.
An entire row of apple trees.
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>>107977454
Apples are for fags.
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>>107977434
well if you wanted to play at 720p you could have buy another card, the 9070 XT was meant for RASTER and Native performance not upscaling in which IT IS better than a 5070 TI which is what makes the /pcbg/ shills seethe
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>>107977462
My choice is made for me, then. Wouldn't want you to miss out.
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>>107977464
Native is dead in 2026 anon all games at "native" are using TAA that puts a slathering of blur across the screen and all sorts of ghosting and artifacts. If you aren't playing every game with FSR 4 AA at least to fix this you are literally just giving your eyes a worse experience. Current day native is not the same as old native with MSAA or SMAA
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i have never used dlss or framegen on my 5080 after owning it for over 11 months and i doubt i will ever play a video game released after the year 2019 AD...
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>>107977496
the card was meant for raster and native, not upscaling, 1080p native FSR looks better than FSR quality at 4k, and you get the better CPU overhead, even 1440p FSR at low settings and you'll get a native experience superior to the 5070 TI
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Should I buy 768gb of ddr-5 CL34 memory for my computer?
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>>107977537
should be enough for arch linux but for windows 1tb is considered mandatory unless you do some deblooting..
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>>107977386
It is, shills keep saying that DLSS makes the 9070 XT worse even when the 5070 TI is $1200, and 5080 is over $1500 when you can easily play with FSR NATIVE 1080p or high/medium settings at 1440p and get higher framerates than the 5070 TI and max your monitor refresh rate without needing frame generation
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>>107977550
>when the 5070 TI is $1200
you keep saying this. where is it $1200? I can get an MSI Shadow for $829 at my local Best Buy right now...
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>>107977562
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/search?search=5070+ti
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>>107977567
>Canada
lol. Lmao!
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>>107977567
are you retarded?
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>>107977567
nigga...
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>>107977567
hilarious nicotroon post
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Bwos...
The 9070 XT is $1500.
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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.
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>>107977628
humiliation ritual
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GeForce xisters how do I respond without sounding mad when Nico-Poster tells me that we're still not capable of playing the only game worth getting a new pc for, Cyberpunk with RT Overdrive?
It's playable on the current gen midrange Radeon cards (9070 and 9070 XT) because of FSR4 (now natively supported), but we don't have that nor an upscaler stable enough to brute force a higher resolution.
How do I cope??? When I booted up DLSS 4 transformer for the first time on my 5070 to and saw the grass shadows flickering like this I had a full on dysphoric breakdown and almost overdosed on my HRT pills and had to get my stomach pumped at the ER.
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WTF
HOW COULD AMD DO THIS TO US?
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what the fuck causes this mental illness
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guys i have an asus rog zephyrus g16 laptop with an rtx 4090 mobile, 32gb of some kind of ddr5 ram, and some intel core ai cpu.

it stutters playing everything. even terraria.

did my parts cook themselves? is it over?
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>>107977666
Deep regret.
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>>107977647
mods came through last time, maybe they will again. It's a coin flip though. Just report all the copypasta spam.
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>>107977218
>for it had no cost.
>F models are 20-30 dollars cheaper than regular models
Retard.
>inb4 Zen 4+
You are still paying for it retard
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>>107977567
>leafbucks
lol that's not real fucking money
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>>107977666
izzat
he lost and embarrassed himself so now he has to double down to save face
>>107977674
i don't really care honestly but it's fun to watch
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Is it worth getting a 5080 OC to upgrade over a 9070xt? If I sell my GPU, it'll be like paying for a second 9070xt.



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