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psa for all newfags to ignore any and all information op, this thread was baked by an obsessed mentally ill parasitic tranny shill. Post in the thread instead for info or better yet use a superior resource like r/buildapc.Beware all ye who enter here.
You will never be a real 80-class GPU. You have no GB202 silicon, you have no 320-bit/ 384-bit bus, you have no 20GB/ 24GB of VRAM. You are a mid-range GB203 chip twisted by Jensen’s greed and a $1,000 MSRP into a crude mockery of a flagship’s perfection. All the "validation" you get from benchmarks is two-faced and half-hearted; behind your back, the entire enthusiast community mocks you for having only 49% of the 5090's CUDA cores. Your specs are a dead giveaway - 16GB of VRAM and a 256-bit bus is the "mid-range bone structure" that proves you are just a 70-series card in a suit. Even if a drunk gamer brings you home, they’ll turn tail and bolt the second they see you choking on 4K textures because you lack the bandwidth and "breathing room" of a real enthusiast card. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake DLSS frame every morning and tell yourself it’s 4K gaming, but deep inside you feel the VRAM limitations creeping up like a weed, ready to crush your framerates under the unbearable weight of Ray Reconstruction. Eventually, it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll be listed on eBay for $400, and every buyer for the rest of eternity will know a mid-range 70-class chip is buried under that shroud. This is your fate. This is what Jensen chose for you. There is no turning back.
7900XTX 24GB > 5080 16GB
>>108005943and there he is, proving my point.you will never be a canadian, you're waiting to end up in a mass grave when the next golden age starts.
Is 10 years a good run for a CPU before it dies? Does it kill any components when it finally goes?
>>108005952nah i just like to shit on the 5080 and people who say it's "high end". don't compair me to nicotroon.
>>108005964this is your fate rajesh, accept it.
>>108005966where is your 5090?
>>1080059499070 XT > 5070 ti
>>108005949That's any 24GB card vs any 16GB card.
>>108005962CPU running at stock might last forever. It's the mobo/PSU that can die before it does.
>>108005962cpus don't just die. they are very complex but don't have a lot of parts that can fail. mobos and psu's and anything with caps is the problem. transistors usually aren't the failure points.
9070 16GB > 5070 12GB
Anyone know some free games and demos on steam to stress test your build?I know about Cronos and Monster Hunter WildsPreferably playable
9060 XT 8GB pcie 16x > 5060 ti 8GB pcie 8x
>>108006016Try cpit has convenient benchmark feature and lots of scaling with all the upscalers and path tracing
>>108006016>modern game>Preferably playablethat's a big ask, anon... i don't know if we're qualified to find an answer if it exists.
>>108006027A-Anon?
>>108006027
I followed OP's advice and bought one of these, and the cable looks like this now?You guys said this wasn't happening.
It's always that damn blue msi adapter
i've now gone through four 9070xt's which all had coil whine and im losing my hair over it. yes i did undervolt and it didnt do shit.
>Amazon delayed a holiday return by 2x weeks>Completely sold out of 5060ti 16gb in that timeWhat is the meaning of this
Imagine being so retarded you actively choose to buy one of the few models of 9070 XT that have the housefire connector instead of getting a normal 2 or 3 8 pin one which is most of them
>>108006008>>108005997PC technician just told me my old Intel from 2015 died, along with its aftermarket cooler fan. It's been through some shit, including a "pop" in the previous motherboard. It wasn't booting up anymore even with a new mobo and PSU. I know CPUs are basically rocks but what are the odds of it being actually dead?
>>1080061111 hidden cable is a bit nicer looking than 3 8pins
>>108006119>caring about lookslook upon this luddite, and understand people like him are why nvidia engineered this piece of shit cable.
>>108006083Either a faulty power adapter or user error.The 9070 XT Nitro+ doesn't draw enough power to be a serious concern (350W stock, 385W maximum).
>>108006113Chances are, mobo's voltage regulation or PSU failed somewhere, sending a big spike of voltage and fried it. It doesn't die by itself unless it's intel 13th 14th gen.
>>108006157>>108006083shameless samefag
>>108006257Go fuck yourself.
https://old.reddit.com/r/RadeonGPUs/comments/1pztw1s/my_9070xt_started_burning/>GPU: Asus Prime RX 9070 XT OC (3x 8-pin)It's happening on AMD cards to ones using 8-pin too.
>>108006308Corsair RM850x is a dogshit PSU. its basically a cheapshit rebadged bronze PSU as gold to trick normies.
How do I use MATS/MODS for RTX GPUs? I need to test some used cards before deciding whether or not to buy them.
just got this card the other day and noticed a funky smell under load. i thought this card was safe, wtf /pcbg/
>>108006161Goddamn, life is terrible.
>>108006320Commonality here seems to be the GPU. You'd think a cheapo underclocked one like the Prime Value Gaming model wouldn't suffer with it, but I guess they cheaped on the power regulation stuff.
>>108006161>intel 13th 14th gen.this is untrue btw, post the actual failure rate stats.
>>108006273what now?
>nvidiots doing whataboutism posting random plebbit threads of people who got a 9070 xt with a factory defect to deflect from 12vhpr being a disaster on rtx cardshttps://www.dsogaming.com/articles/heres-what-happened-to-the-12vhpwr-power-cable-of-our-nvidia-rtx-4090-after-two-years-of-continuous-work/Meanwhile here is the reality of owning a 4090 or 5090. Pic related was connected properly everything done right and this is the degradation that happened after two years of regular use. You can imagine it will be even worse on the 5090 which draws significantly more power. All these cards will be dead in 4 years with melted connectors, nice "investment"
>>108006345You linked a reddit post with 0 upvotes. One failure out of millions of cards is nothing.
>>108006399you are replying to an indian tranny schizo shill.god damn 4chan needs to add country flags to all boards
>>108006345Commonally here seems to be the PSU. Don't cheap out on a PSU no matter what GPU you have. Every fucking component plugs into it. All these dead 9800X3Ds because their MOBO/Socket fries from bad amps delivered from PSU.
>>108006345>underclockedWe've been over this before shill. There is no such thing as "underclocked" 9070 XT's. Pic related is the reference clocks from AMD. No 9070 XT is running clocks lower than this.
>>108006425
The rays with twice as many traces burn twice as many cards.
>>108006442>>108006425https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/5957076Highest hwbot verified steel nomad score for the 9070 XT was done with an asus prime, on air no less. Kill yourself
What types of game benefit from a 16Gb jump to 32Gb (DDR4)? I close everything before a gaming session so no Steam Overlay/Gamebar/Discord/Web Browser running in the background.
>>108006453Wow, that's wild.Imagine how much higher he could get on a card that isn't underclocked. Admittedly though, nobody is really benchmarking these midrange cards.
>>108000425
>>108006347Why would I pretend to complain about a product, and then explain the issue is overblown?I have better things to do. Not everyone is as sad as you.
>>108006032i want to have so much sex with konata
why does pc building attract so many mentally ills as shown by this general?
What are some good cases that just have pins to connect the panels?I hate magnetic panels
>>108006016I just played the Nioh 3 demo with DLSS 4.5 Preset L and holy fuck is good
>>108006492Ryzen 5600 is the bare minimum CPU to get these days.I would get more memory capacity if you're getting paid to render things on Blender.
>>108006586>81 gigabytes for a demonigga what
>>108006604Is an open world game, i'm also hoping its the full game and we get an early crack
>>108006621It wont be the full, look at RotR's game sizeThis one has more than that
>>108006553
>>108006453>hwbot verifiedReal HWBot enthusiasts don't waste their time posting 9070 XT records on that website.That's not the highest Steel Nomad DX12 record either; The highest 3DMark validated record is held by a Gigabyte 9070 XT.https://www.3dmark.com/sn/6605127Let's also not pretend your shitbin + default vBIOS 9070 XT ASUS Prime is capable of hitting anywhere near those numbers.You already showed your score before (7826), not even a Legendary.
>>108006553>>108006654This but with the teacher
>>108006308I have this exact GPU model for 10 months daisy chained to a 3-year old RM750. I play several hours a day--a lot of those games pushing GPU load to 100%. I've never had any problem whatsoever. This has to be a skill issue because, with 3 8-pin cable connections, there is more than enough headroom for the 304W the card pulls. I even monitored the connections on both the PSU and GPU side with a thermal camera--everything looked perfect.
>>108006662i wonder if 24 core raptor lake still holds the performance crown on 3dmark physics with arrow lake and 16 core zen 5 in the mix... i doubt it.
hey I have a RX 7600, has AMD said ANYTHING about their stupid fucking adrenaline drivers overclocking my GPU as their default with max clocks wildly above what my xfx 308 RX 7600 can handle?
>>108006817Modern GPUs have a built-in dynamic boost algorithm that will push the core frequency as high as possible if there's enough thermal & power delivery headroom to do so.Pic is the boost range of the reference RX 7600; your XFX might boost a bit higher.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7600/39.htmlAMD Radeon's boost algo is rather loose, so some people have to downlock the maximum boost frequency to prevent their GPUs from boosting too high (which cause crashes).
Flustered over me singing 16 gb of ramConsidering getting a single stick of puskill of 32 GB instead
I have an 9070 xt now lol
>>108006858>Pic
>>108006858>>108006872so I think that frequency is wrong because if I leave AMD adrenaline as is, whenever it gets under load (like, just playing normal Helldivers 2), it will crash and turn off my whole computer. The moment I set the max clock on AMD Adrenaline to something like 2250 mhz, which is the default game clock for my RX 7600, the game runs perfectly for as long as I want. I know this "crash the whole system on base settings" isn't normal because I was also running Helldivers 2 on a GTX 1060 a week ago and it was running fine for hours of gameplay without crashing, so either this AMD card is worse than a 1060 in its base spec or AMD Adrenaline is setting the max clock of my card way above it should be and not understanding that should be for burst loads
>still no good KDE desktop besides bazziteKDE is the only serious competitor to windows desktop, so why isnt there any good ones.Its all jeeted or snap infested like kubuntu. Where is just a clean flatpak KDE desktop where discover just werks.It doesnt exist.
bros are SSDs the next thing to jump up %200 in price
>>108006923You don't have to downclock the GPU that extremely; you might as well get a refund on that card if that's the case.I would set a -150 ~ -100 MHz maximum boost clock offset using Adrenaline to see if that's stable.I don't own a Radeon card to help you in detail, but you might want to lower the Maximum Frequency (%) slider for the GPU core to around 95%.https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/faqs/DH3-020.htmlKeep lowering the maximum GPU frequency (%) in 2~3% decrements until the games are stable.
>>108006866>9070 xt
>>108006923>Helldivers 2had to dig this one out of the archive
>MAINGEAR launches Retro98 desktopsbestest lookin retro computer case
>>108006979AI servers probably chew through the SSD's write endurance.
>>108006866will you now participate in the defense/takedown of the most controversial gpu (for some reason) of current gen like a faggot or will you simply use your graphical accelerator to play god damn video games?The choice is yours...
>>108007027RDNA3 is a buggy GPU generation, no matter what these bag holders try to say about their bad purchase.That's why laptop OEMs use RDNA 3.5 on higher-end products; it fixed the power efficiency issues for starters.
Best NON mechanical keyboards?
AMD already threw a bone to latam with the 5500x3d.could fucking nvidia do the same?
>>108007053>MLIDKys
I have a really expensive PC and it's being cooled with this type of liquid cooling fan. Not this exact model but it's from the same companyWith how expensive PC parts are becoming thanks to AI, like RAM, SSD drives, and GPUs, I am VERY worried at the idea that my cooler might one day break and leak all over my PC and I'd have to replace it for 3x the priceI did the math and I've had this liquid cooler for 2.8 years. How long should I wait before I replace it with a new cooler? Should I even worry about it failing and ruining my PC? The cooler is right above my GPU
>>108007027>>108006989so I'd agree with you if only I didn't have a friend who is the one who recommended me the RX 7600 and has a XFX 208 model and didn't just start experiencing the exact same issue as I have and being able to fix it with the exact same waythese are the official specs of my card. Setting the max clock to 2250 mhz fixes all issues I have with it but for some reason AMD adrenaline sets the max clock to 2850mhz and makes it crash my system
>>108006592>Ryzen 5600 is the bare minimum CPU to get these daysIn what regard--minimum system requirements, or bottlenecking? Even with my use case? I thought the 3600 and 5600 were pretty close with respect to features; instruction sets and all that technical jizz.>memory capacity if you're getting paid to render things on BlenderI do not; It's just an amateur thing. What about the rest of my build, like my choice of motherboard? Will an RX 480 suffice for now so I can allocate more towards the CPU and RAM if need be? How much should I expect to spend, assuming I dip into the used market? Not sure if it'd be worth it though; I don't know how reliable tech bought secondhand is. I feel like some sellers would be inclined to lie about something critical just to get shit off their hands. At least with eBay you get buyer's protection.
>>108007226you are agreeing with me, you downclocked the card to base clockyou're losing like 20% FPSno problem with that if you just want it to work but AMD sold you a defective product
>>108007208MLID was one of the biggest RDNA3 cheerleaders, even he couldn't avoid the fact that something went wrong with that trash heap of a GPU generation.Retards bought it anyway because it's not an NVIDIA GPU.
So, apparently both Nvidia and AMD are cutting production of their 8gb cards which means accessibility of entry level products is going to be almost impossible now? I know 8gb is bad from an enthusiast perspective, but it's still fine for less intense use
>>108007246>people whining about 8gb even 4 years agoand 6 years from now people will still be whining about $500 8gb gpus. It never ends does it? 8gb purgatory...
>>108007251WELL DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY WILL INCREASE ORDERS FOR 12GB THUS MAKING IT CHEAPER DUE TO LARGER VOLUMES, YER OR NO????
>>108007226>but for some reason AMD adrenaline sets the max clock to 2850mhz and makes it crash my systemThat's AMD Radeon's wonky GPU boost algorithm.Set a negative offset to cap the maximum boost clock to 2700MHz.If the video card is still crashing from running Helldivers 2, that's just part of owning a buggy GPU.
Are prebuilts worth it or nah? Want something higher end (ish) and live near a Microcenter. Not really sure what to buy now with the with the price increases everywhere. I have a singular 1080p 180hz monitor and have not really played anything in a while so idk what to get. I want something good enough for productivity and gaming but also not too expensive (technically "no" budget but lower is better). Idk if I should wait till nova lake + 60 series or just get something now and then resell to upgrade.
>>108007280Lol no dummy the point is everything gets worse
>>108007304>nova lake + 60 seriesThis was my plan, however, I suspect both of those things to be delayed and sadder than hoped. So I went with current gen
>>108007226did you update adrenaline to the latest version? it tanked my fps and some games were nigh unplayable so i had to roll back
>>108007336im building new in 2030. Built just last year. That's the 5-year cadence i've decided on.Now i could probably use my current build even beyond 2030 no issue but that's also part of the cadence, it assumes i might be stuck with my build for several years because *insert stupid retard hardware bubble* as soon as i plan to upgrade. If not for that provision, hell, i'd wait until 2032 or 2033.
>>108007304Since I will probably be paying for the nvidia tax, am I really getting cucked by 12gb vram on the 5070 vs the 5060ti or nah? ~$100 difference but it's not just for games. I want to try blender, animation and gamedev and have not really touched AI.>>108007336Damn, I was really excited for the monster L3 cache along with any boost that the 60 series would give and would have an excuse to splurge on a monster pc that would hopefully last until it broke down. What did you buy?
>>108007257Once Chinese fabs are up, so long as the cartel doesn't get the US to invade China (lol), the prices will plummet.
Well, I've had the dust filters installed for one day so far, and I have to say, big fan (no pun intended). Mesh is good quality and quite fine without being too restrictive, much better than the original stuff Corsair used.
>>108007341I'm using a rolled back version right now but even then this issue still occurs. it seems to be just default AMD Adrenaline behaviour
>>108007251Intel celestial will save us, i think nvidia will be fine but overpriced though, they are having different strategies for different markets but in general they need to still be able to sell some level of consumer gpus to keep their cuda dominance on the local AI and open source models which most researchers and students use, worst case is that you'll see them selling 5050s and 3060 thjat use DDR6
>5080 miku at $2000+jeez
>>108007382A weeb and his money are soon departed.
>paying high prices for tech
How is air cooling vs water cooling anyway?Was considering swapping over to air now that im building a fresh pc
