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Discussion of Free and Open Source Diffusion Models

Prev: >>108003668

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneo
AniStudio: https://github.com/FizzleDorf/AniStudio
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>Z
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo

>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2

>LTX-2
https://huggingface.co/Lightricks/LTX-2

>Wan
https://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Base
https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>NetaYume
https://huggingface.co/duongve/NetaYume-Lumina-Image-2.0
https://nieta-art.feishu.cn/wiki/RZAawlH2ci74qckRLRPc9tOynrb

>Illustrious
https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Bakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/r/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg
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The main innovation of BFL with Flux 1 was the female buttchin, why didn't they add that in their subsequent models?
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>>108003345
I missed your reply a few threads back drawfag anon but if you're still here, I fed the image at half resolution (3060 12gb cope) into flux klein 4b with a prompt to color and shade it as an anime illustration then fed that output to img2img with cocoStyleNoobaiXL at 0.45 denoise to upscale back to the original res with adetailer to do a second pass on the face using forge classic.
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finetune friendly z-image got released so long ago, at least a week, and we still didn't get any big finetune? wtf is going on
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>>108006797
the new node uses some api bullshit, do you trust them? I dont
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>>108006871
NTA, I don't and I won't ever use that, but it's optional so who cares if some people do, it doesn't really change anything for me.
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>>108006871
These nodes.
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>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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>>108006871
retard not the gemma node, the cfg nodes. Fucking /g btw
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>>108006883
oh, ill have to test that as well
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How many models is lodestone training now?
- that one vae less model or whatever
- one based on klein 4B I think?
- one based on ZIT, I wonder if he's gonna train on ZIB now.
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>>108006883
I think their defaults are overtuned for lip sync.
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>>108006902
those 3
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>>108006909
Is he an oil baron or something?
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>>108006914
he made ramtorch and apparently is using old servers + a bunch of 4090s. Though apparently he got two rtx 6000 pros as well
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>>108006765
no ones using your UI lilbro LOL
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>hello fellow furs I am making it easy to make diaper fur content
>infinite blank cheques roll in to make degen furfag garbage
it's always been this way. it's the way of the internet
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>>108006921
>he made ramtorch
It's apache 2.0 so there is no money to be made there unless it got him some very well paying job as an outcome.
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>>108006942
No, I mean he made it so he can use a bunch of ram with minimal slow down instead of needing to fit everything on vram. With a high batch size it is only slightly slower.
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>>108006941
I want more richfags with enough disposable money to fund nsfw finetunes so it's all good anyway lol
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>>108006765
Be careful anons there is malware in the OP
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>>108006948
Oh I see.
But knowing he used 100k+USD for chroma, even with this method, are these finetunes even that cheap?
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I've been consulting with gemini3 pro for two hours now, and it says that an NSFW fine-tune on Klein 9b would be possible with 25k images at 2mp on an 8xh200 cluster in 48 hours, provided I use dozens of tricks such as masked attention for genitals, train the text encoder for 10% and the VAE separately and dozens of other stuff i dont want to explain.

I think gemini3pro is “smarter” than all of you, but feel free to add your two cents.
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the fact we don't have a full finetune of z-image when the non distilled model has been released shows it's a dead model
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>>108006967
No, before he just rented H100s but he decided that was unsustainable so that is why he made ramtorch and bought a bunch of 4090s instead
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>>108006960
comfy has always been malware
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>>108006980
I guess as long as he continues releasing stuff, it means he can afford it.
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>>108006988
I think he has a old server + 8 4090s for one setup and 2 6000 pros for another
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>>108006972
The sota thinking models has generally been more reliable for me, but I don't know how much of that is true.

Start a new conversation with the conclusion, and ask it to prove to you with sources if any of what the conclusions are correct (without telling it it's the outcome of another conversation).
No context and asking for sources would have it at its smartest.
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>>108006997
>8 4090s for one setup and 2 6000 pros
If this runs 24/7, the cost in electricity alone would be steep unless he lives in specific areas of the world.
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why does comfy always break when i just want to update it
i'm so fucking tired of that shitware
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>>108007004
Nice tip, thanks
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>>108006997
which adds up, you need about 180GB vram to full tune these 9B ones or so
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>shitty collage
>3 image posts and 30+ text posts
>rentries missing
>trannystudio in OP
fucking kekd
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>>108007018
i just updated and it works perfectly fine.
122 custom nodes
latest nightly

i think you're too stupid to use comfy. stick to api nodes or something. bleeding edge ai is not for room temperature morons.
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>julien
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>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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>>108006984
kek
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>>108007018
I see these posts once in while here, meanwhile I had exactly one problem while probably updating every week or so for 2 years+.
And that problem was just me forgetting to update sage attention, torch and a few other dependencies after changing cuda and python versions, so not even comfyui related.

I don't know if it's just anons being retarded or if it's genuine botched installations.
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Blessed thread of frenship :D
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>>108006984
Wait what the fuck. That gremlin snuck his shitty UI in the OP. We need a new bake.
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stop it with the drama
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>>108007083
it's literally python just being the fucking worst
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>filtered by python
holy techlet
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kill ani
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>>108007123
Works perfectly fine on my machine.
I can gen at cuda speeds, I can get any model working, I can use loras, and I can make weird exotic ideas work.
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Comfy literally has 1 click installers that also install sage / triton. People are just retards
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so can someone tell me why ranfaggot just screams into the void for years over a dev that didn't actually do anything to deserve any of this? it's just pathetic and a waste of time. not sure what kind of enjoyment he gets out of it anymore when it's his own reputation being tanked into oblivion
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i wonder if any newfags will fall for that post
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>AniStudio in OP
Please just fucking kill yourself already
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LTX2 is MUCH MUCH better with the new nodes.
https://files.catbox.moe/r1z356.json
But its also a lot slower. It really is just wan2.2 with audio now but its smoother cause of the higher fps
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>>108007278
I can make way longer videos than wan2.2 actually. And no 2 step refiner wf is easier to manage too.
Once enough nsfw loras are made for it, I'll definitely migrate to it.
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>>108007308
it can do BJs about as well as wan2.2 already with the furry all in one + the 'oral' lora + the penis lora
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>>108007223
you kept asking for it to be included and now you are kicking and screaming it's in. go fuck yourself it's staying now
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>>108006765
>AniStudio
Aaaand there it is again. Next baker better flush twice.
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Yeah AniStudio stays.
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z-image base keeps making creepy weird looking 1girls for me, with all the default settings from their workflow. cant seem to figure out what im doing wrong. anyone pin down the ideal prompting/settings for 1girl nude selfie slop yet?
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>>108007370
z-image base has been a disappointment for me overall. I seriously don't see the hype for this slow ass model.
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>>108006854
kek
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>>108007328
Yeah current wan2.2 is kind of easy to make nsfw with, it's just cumbersome, and slower for me vs ltx2, especially when I want 10-20s clips.
Both will probably never have nsfw finetunes so we'll have to play loras.
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>>108007370
post an example
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>>108007344
>>108007368
Does it support the very expirmental image to image feature yet?
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https://huggingface.co/Phr00t/LTX2-Rapid-Merges/blob/main/LTXV-DoEverything-v2.json

neat workflow

https://files.catbox.moe/exjarf.mp4
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>>108007424
People on Le Reddit are definitely Emperor's New Clothesing it a lot. Especially when you could already train great loras on ZIT and ZIB existing doesn't change anything in terms of stackability unless you only inference with ZIB.

```A weathered, yellowing parchment menu lies flat on a rustic dark oak table, featuring the handwritten text "Le Petit Bistro" in elegant, flowing black calligraphy at the top. A fresh, dark brown coffee ring stain obscures the bottom right corner next to a silver spoon. Warm, dappled sunlight filters through leaves outside a nearby window, casting intricate lace-like shadows across the paper texture, evoking a nostalgic, cozy, and tactile morning mood.```
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>>108007438
If you disregard ani and use sd.cpp directly it has img2img.
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>>108007444
Bro this workflow is super cooked.
get one of these:
https://huggingface.co/RuneXX/LTX-2-Workflows/tree/main
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>>108007446
ZIB one looks best
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>>108007446
>unless you only inference with ZIB.
Why would I use ZiT since ZiB has much broader knowledge and isn't double distill locked? It's not that hard to prompt despite what some anon have said.
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Anyone have a simple z base wf with upscaling? I don't wanna download a million nodes
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this is with the new nodes
https://files.catbox.moe/u6gse8.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/r1z356.json
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>>108007551
xixxix on civitai has one for zit that probably works (hes also an ldg kino poster) but i simply generate at the size i want outright
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>>108007574
do you have a comparison with the old using the same seed?
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>>108007574
do you have anything good?
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>>108007444
https://files.catbox.moe/08kz5y.mp4

i2v with the 2026 gits motoko promo from today
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>>108006642
nice
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ComfyUI 0.11.1 update, probably mostly for Grok Imagine.
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>>108007574
the only new thing is picrel right?
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>>108007604
FOUR FOUR FIVE FIVE MATCH.
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>>108007613
looks like there is audio as well

And then for ram-lets they put in a free gemma encoder api thing if you dgaf about sending your prompts over api I guess
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>>108007629
Let's see the next posters.
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>>108007580
>xixxix
Seems based, thanks I'll check it out
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qwen models still need some better seed diversity value.
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>>108007551
I tried simply going x2 resolution using SeedVR2 Tiling Upscaler and it works pretty well.
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>>108007601
>>108007633
API NODES OMG!!!! THANK YOU FOR THE API NODES FOR THE LOCAL GENERAL!!!! GREAT POST! WE NEED MORE API NEWS IN THE LOCAL THREAD!!!!
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>>108007594
kek

https://files.catbox.moe/25gyms.mp4
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>>108007551
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uh oh melty
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>>108007446
Man, Turbo phoned that one in.
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>>108007658
holy shit, it didn't botch the pronunciation.

https://files.catbox.moe/tvxm56.mp4
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```Clownshark Batwing```
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>>108007675
>140 KB, 448x192
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>>108007721
cool. now try 9B dumbass.
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>>108007721
zisters, our response?
>>108007744
low res kinosthetics
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is there a reasonable way in comfyui to generate one or more images up to like 5-10 steps, output them to view what they look like so far, and then choose whether or not to continue generating for more steps? this would be incredibly helpful for how slow z image base is for me.
better yet, is there some way to do this but then do the last few steps with z image turbo? i feel like maybe itd do a good enough job getting the crisp details up to par while maintaining the better variety from the base models first however many steps. this shits just so slow its taking me forever to work out good prompts
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>>108007756
I mean it's pretty funny too, IDK why you'd expect it to be in that comparison exactly though
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>>108007780
there is a way but it won't be reasonable
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>>108007791
crying and pissing myself. does no one have premade workflows for this kind of thing? struggling to figure out how to describe that in a google search
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>>108007806
use a tae for previews
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>>
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my lora baked on base running on turbo doesn't work at all
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https://files.catbox.moe/ywomcm.mp4
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Clownshark Batwing but in Chinese, all models
```小丑鲨蝙蝠翼```
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>>108007783
>>108007721

I’ve got this burning question and it has to do with clown shark. Why does every generation using clownshark insist on the generation being about or mentioning clownshark? I see it on the banadoko discord, now I see it here.

It gives off massive crypto cult vibes. Is there a reason behind it?
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>>108007923
it's a funny word to use and that's it
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>>108007757
>zisters, our response?

Zib sucks. It's time to stop coping.
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>>108007721
klein has MUCH better prompt following
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>>108007874
it's almost like the "base" model we got isn't even an ancestor model of turbo. crazy, right?
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>>108007932
yeah clearly zib is even worse than the first release of stable diffusion way back then, such a failure
no one even did any finetune since release, it should show how shitty it is
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>>108007917
I want to watch JLOR's movie he looks like a cool dude
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>>108007941
It fucking better, with how much longer its text encoding takes when both are Qwen 3-4b based.
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>>108007874
Raise the strength to ~2
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>klein released before Z
>currently more Z loras than klein
k sisters......
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>>108007969
Klein often turns panties into shorts and wants to spontanously cover women's exposed skin.
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>>108007976
>panties into shorts
and mini skirts to shorts too, it's kind of funny
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>>108007923
Clownshark Batwing is the username of the dude who makes the widely used RES4LYF node pack. He's a nice guy. The `bong_tangent` sampler is named that because he's from the UK. So IDK, it's just funny I guess. I'm not sure what you mean by "mentioning it".
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>>108007969
huh? there was already a ton of ZIT loras because it's been out forever. The Z Image Base ones on CivitAI look identical or worse than what already existed.
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>>108007969
It's a bitch to train
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give me your lewdest z-image prompt
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>>108007969
people were training on z turbo and so it already had support anyways everywhere. People had to wait for klien support and now I'm waiting for lonestones
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>>108008011
big black willy
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>>108008011
Sexy sexual sexy sex of sexy sex with sexual sexy sex in a sexy pose with sexy.
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>>108007864
yes
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Currently trying to set up ComfyUI for AMD on Arch. I plan to use this docker container.
https://github.com/YanWenKun/ComfyUI-Docker/tree/main/rocm
However, I am unsure if I need to install rOCM on my install although it states that the rOCM packages are included in the container. If so, I have no idea what packages I need to install. I checked the Arch Wiki and the AMD website, but the AMD website was geared more towards Debian derivatives, and the info on the Arch Wiki seemed obtuse. Likewise, there was some stuff on OpenCL, but anons on the archives stated that OpenCL was a shit. Is there anything that I need to do that are not included in the install instructions?
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>>108007721
>>108007917
Can you do a comparison of how they all handle multiple subjects? Like a group photo of 3 subjects each with specified characteristics eg "girl on the left with red hair and green eyes wearing business suit and glasses" etc.
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A medium shot, high-angle selfie of a handsome, muscular man with a defined athletic physique, including visible abdominal muscles and broad shoulders. He is wearing intricate black lace lingerie, consisting of a delicate bralette and matching high-waisted briefs with sheer floral patterns. The man is holding a sleek black smartphone in his right hand, angled toward a large, ornate gold-framed wall mirror to capture his reflection. He has a confident expression, short groomed hair, and slight stubble. The setting is a luxurious, dimly lit bedroom with velvet emerald green curtains in the background and soft, warm ambient light from a bedside lamp casting gentle shadows that define his muscle contours. The texture of the skin is realistic with subtle pores and highlights, contrasting against the fine, web-like texture of the black lace. The composition follows the reflection in the mirror, showing both the man's side profile and his front view in the glass.
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>>108008130
lol, please tell me this is like what happens sometimes on huggingface where retards post prompts on github comments thinking its a fucking generation service
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z image absolutely flopped and majority of users are turning to nano banana instead. what a terrible year for local so far
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>>108008140
was meant for >>108008011
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>>108008143
Wait nano banana can do tentacle hentai now?!!
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>>108008144
workflow with interpolation, seems pretty good

https://huggingface.co/Phr00t/LTX2-Rapid-Merges/blob/main/LTXV-DoEverything-v2.json
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>>108008155
z-image can do tentacle hentai?
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>>108008143
Really? Not even mentioning /adt/, that general used to be busy, but rumors says that at the end of the year people left for better quality anime generals and never returned. Now they're having 6 days long threads.
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>>108006765
Hep, how do I into outpainting. This shit is so ass.
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>>108008143
yeah it's so bad people are going back in droves to sd1.5
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>>108008039
Come on, fuckers. I want to generate something to wank off to.
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>>108008227
me three
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>>108008227
I would help you as a fellow fapanon but I only have nvidia cards sorry
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2026 and we still don't have a base model that's comparable to first week DALLE 3.
It's so over for local.
In all honesty, it's incredible how much time has passed and people still don't understand why normalkeks run to NB and GPT Image. It's kinda humiliating desu.
And to the anon who is gonna ask the obvious, make PC part prices down and people will finetune it.
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>>108008130
slop prompt
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Biggest flopps of early 2026:
ZiB
/adt/

What else?
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>>108008238
you
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>>108008238
my big floppy willy
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>>108008250
based
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>ironic shitpost spam
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>>108008130
Tried it on SD 3.5 Medium lol
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>Z image and kucks klein are basically sd3.5-tier
the absolute state of local
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>>108008284
Klein 9B Distilled
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>>108008292
Klein 4B Distilled
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>>108008291
more like sd1.4
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>>108008315
ZIB
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>>108008329
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>>108008334
woops this is ZIT obviously
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>>108008280
prophet
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>>108008237
true, got the old one instead of the fixed one kek
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it seems to me that a good proportion of the posters in these threads are very young and stupid
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>>108008374
There was a recent influx of newfag which is probably where that comes from. No idea why the influx though.
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>>108008039
>>108008227
I ran the container with podman on cachyos (arch based) and used the anime image workflow example on the welcome page, it ran in 152.74 seconds on an rx 9060xt 16gb power capped at 112w.
You shouldn't need to install rocm on the host since it's included in the container.
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>>108008024
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>>108008334
oh my
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Anon with connections to finetuners here. It's not looking good. Nobody has outright denied the feasibility of recent models yet, but the air is thick with uncertainty. Z-Image is certainly a letdown compared to what was expected, especially considering the fact that they didn't even release the omni/edit model. The outputs are of poor quality, the generation times exceptionally long, and loras are incredibly unstable.
Overall this is looking like another dry year for local. Many are questioning whether local even has a future at all. Hardware prices are going up, models sucks, and finetuners are exiting the scene. This might unironically be the end for local
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>>108008397
nice bobs thanks it's very sexy sex
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>>108008338
Nano Banana Pro for good measure
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>>108008397
Klein 4B one
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>/dall-e/ faggot migrated from his containment general to shit up /ldg/

sigh...
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>>108008411
You know who else? For /adt/, fewer and fewer people post there, less and less interaction between anons, and more spam gens as a way to bump rather than because it has any meaning. This might be unironically the end for /adt/.
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>>108006765
Reminder that AniStudio is literal malware
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I tried to be clever and use a bunch of GetNode/SetNode for this cleaned up workflow but those nodes are slow af
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>>108007444
>phroot all-in-one
bisgusting
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fluxjews are still seething LE KEK
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>>108007721
yea that is why the big finetuners are going with klein. That and the vae / all in one edit stuff.
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>>108008561
>yea that is why the big finetuners are going with klein.
Proof?
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>https://github.com/capitan01R/ComfyUI-Flux2Klein-Enhancer
>get native comfy conditional nodes
>copy them and replace their labels
>people download them and praise you for the "fix"
lol
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>>108008565
lonestone's discord for him / metal for one. people on the dandoco discord where tons of finetuners discuss settings / methods...
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>>108006883
where is the workflow
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Cope more fluxniggers, your cucked model wont win zbase, zbase is for fituning, and because has not a cucked license, the model will be the new sdxl
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>localkeks once again falling for BFL's siren song, ensuring another year of complete stagnation
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>>108008561
klein is so slopped due to aesthetic tunning though, alas
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>>108008593
the base model does not matter as much as the vae
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>>108006765
With a 3090, what flags should I be using with WebUI Neo?
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local has progressed yet the trolling has not...
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>>108008390
Okay, awesome. Thank you so much, anon.
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>>108008600
proof?
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Z-Image might hold the record for the biggest letdown in diffusion history. SD3 was shit, but everyone expected that. Z-Image managed to completely sink their reputation after delaying the release by two months only to release poopoo
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>>108008627
gwelo
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>>108008622
https://bfl.ai/research/representation-comparison
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>>108008634
>bro just click this random website
fuck off
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>>108008635
>random
its literally the BFL website.
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>>108008634
nice, well researched and to the point. seems like chinkshills have no response to this. don't worry, us actual finetuners understand the benefits of klein which is why we are so hyped over it
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>>108008506
ok it's not the Get/Set, it's the switch nodes.
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>>108008641
big fat lips?
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>>108008644
didn't ask
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/adt/ might hold the record for the biggest letdown in 4chan diffusion general's history. /hdg/ was shit, but everyone expected that. /adt/ managed to completely sink their reputation after baking the thread only to gen poopoo
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>>108008634
>Nicotine company says nicotine is good for you and can help you live a long life
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>>108008644
Thanks for this. Seems like a lot of ComfyUI stuff is just broken. Make sure to check for viruses, ComfyUI has been known to harbor malware nodes for months without detection.
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>>108008656
>2 + 2 might not be 4 cause that would benefit the bankers!
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>>108008646
B L A C K E D Forest Lab
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>>108008663
slop
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>>108008663
nice
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>>108008661
hello heinz
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>>108008648
np
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>>108008641
never heard of them, and I don't trust three letter agencies
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>>108008663
kino
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also literally simple mathematics
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>>108008661
I assume you also trust all those papers that come with AI model release that call themselves the best of the best lol
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>>108008663
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>>108008593
the Distills have a gorillion times more detail than ZIT though
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>>108008680
you are literally arguing against 2 + 2 = bigger number than 2
/g is the least educated of all the boards I swear
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>>108008573
>74 stars
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>108008685
kids only know 2 persons
what a mind raped generation
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EVERYBODY SHUT UP!!!! KEKSTONE WILL FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>108008678
xl to flux didn't help training which seems like a way bigger jump so why does the much more miniscule one help more? Genuine question
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>>108008585
ok there John China Guy, so far the only finetuner who has done anything recently that was good is doing both Klein and Z anyways
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>>108008634
>https://bfl.ai/research/representation-comparison
Why not just use original?
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>>108008627
I partially blame the community for rushing them to release SD3 honestly, people were frothing at the mouth over it
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>>108008702
flux 1 had a bunch of stupid mistakes which is why lodestone did surgery on it instead of just tuning it as is. Also its exponentially better / faster to fit than flux 1's vae. So the same amount of training would = far better results with the new vae
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>>108008715
This. If they had more time to remove offensive data things could've turned out better.
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>>108008709
....
Sure, here is a 1 petabtye folder of images. Who needs diffusion models? Ai? never heard of it.
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Anon is still blaming his lack of skill on the model I see
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>>108008753
benchod
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>>108008753
SD3's license and hostility to its users is what killed it, not the model. At least not 3.5
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looks like localkeks are back to the same stale cope
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>>108008757
i dont trust you
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>>108008723
censorship wasn't the problem, in fact SD3 actually had a problem with making women topless super often when you didn't prompt for it at all. The noise scheduling and embeddings just weren't set up properly in it and the way it handled resolutions was odd.
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>>108008760
sd 3.5 was actually a good base and was a long time ago. But they legit rug pulled their past license and tried reclassifying all their models with new rules that no one can tune then or do anything naughty at all with them, NO ONE trusted them after that.
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>>108008718
I'll be honest that didn't really explain anything lol, Ahh well, hoping it works out, we'll see the result eventually I suppose.
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yeah I am not bothering to train any more zimage base stuff for now.
It is exciting potential^tm but as a final product right now I think qwen and flux are much better even for training style loras for
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flux 1 had the best chins, they looked safe
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>t. no trainer
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so what performance optimizations should i be using? is xformers still good?
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>>108008783
ZIT training already worked well too, IDK why people are acting like there's anything to be gained from training on ZIB and using on ZIT
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>>108008619
I ran their lumina example again at the normal 160 watts and it got down to 120s gen time, but I found an sdxl workflow and it's happily spitting out images in 9.6s at 160w and 9.9s at 112w. I'll leave further testing to you, but it seems functional overall.
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>>108008789
you don't need xformers with Pytorch Attention. I'm pretty sure installing xformers will break your Comfy with an Nvidia card, nowadays
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>>108008783
Basically it's just stockholm syndrome browns who don't want to admit the first local release of 2026 was an absolute disaster. It's unsalvageable and somehow trains worse than even Flux.1 dev. Redditoids will cope about how finetunes will fix it, but the actual finetuners agree that it's not a strong candidate.
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is this all gpulet cope or whats going on
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>he isn't using hunyuan 3
the amount of poorfags itt is insane
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>>108008798
IDK, I always just did like 4 - 5 gradient accumulation steps with a batch size of 1 at like 0.0005 LR with Cosine With Restarts @ 3 on Flux, worked great. No idea how people are training loras at like 0.00004 model LR and shit
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>>108008805
new model out -> it's the worst model ever -> my team better than your team
you should be used to it now, just ignore the retarded posts
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>>108008791
I think it's just trolls, my assumption they think they can just say it enough times to get people to train loras on klein. It's not like people aren't trying, shit doesn't want to learn lol
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>>108008729
>Sure, here is a 1 petabtye folder o
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>>108008820
wait what does Klein have to do with someone implying that ZIB was ever needed for ZIT Lora training at all (which it wasn't)
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>>108008815
i wish theyd get new material its the same thing since SDXL
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>its the same thing since SDXL
first accurate post about local itt, thank you for staying on topic!
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>>108008837
it's not like it's changing the reality anyway, if the model is popular it's popular, and if it's a flop it's a flop, no matter their constant whining
complete waste of time, but it's their life they're burning on stupid shit I guess
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I love Feet.
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>>108008832
sloppa, looks like SDXL
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>looks like the only good local model ever made
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>>108008861
alright that one made me kek
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>>108007941
problem is its weird skin details and anatomy issues.
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>>108008831
I am waiting a week or so before I jump into ZB loras to let the trainers and people sort stuff out but ZIT loras gimped the model hard especially hand and anatomy.
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Only oldfags remember the SDXL fudding
>it cant do realism
>it cant do vagene and bob
>it takes too long to gen
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>flux loras killed the anatomy
>zit loras killed the anatomy
hmmm maybe the problem isnt the model but the fact that loras are outdated shit-tech from 2019
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Did he nail settings for klein 9b or is it still melted and blurry?
>https://huggingface.co/malcolmrey/klein9/tree/main

>>108008875
woman posing nude next to mirror and devs raging here. good times
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>>108008875
Oh man the pain in getting people to switch back then, like holy shit every delusional sentiment was said.
>>108008883
Klein loras don't hurt anatomy, klein has a bit of anatomy issues in general, loras didn't make it worse.
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how do I use comfy?
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I'm drowning in piss someone pull me out desu
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>>108008895
~

one does not simply use comfyui
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>>108008897
desu sovl
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>>108008897
Slava Ukraini
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>>108008702
>xl to flux didn't help training

Delusional. We now have the base model. If we had Flux's base model it would've been a different story for tunes too, but Chroma still turned out impressive for what it was. Now imagine we will get several models from different modelmakers that are better than Chroma (including Chroma's continuation itself) since we have a base model that is better than Flux.1 and is undistilled.
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https://files.catbox.moe/mkyh17.flac

Which audio model???
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>>108008875
>sd1.5 was good enough, why would I ever change?
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>>108008897
the piss forest?
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>>108008924
My favorite was "the backgrounds are so much better"
Which most of the time was just a incoherent mess
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>>108008928
dare you enter his magical realm?
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honestly, we have NovelAI to thank. If it wasn't for them, local would've never even moved on to SDXL. we were so busy failbaking until NovelAI V3 came out and they shared the secrets on how to train SDXL properly. that's the power of a 256xH100 supercluster
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>>108008875
it was a piece of shit what the fuck is this attempt at reinventing of history
took all the way till ponyv6 before it started being dominant
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>>108008873
hardware cope jeets training at 512 are the cause of this, the anatomy will ALWAYS be worse if you use a 512 lora at 1 megapixel or greater inference resolutions.

ZIB will never fix ZIT for loras, it's only useful if you actually use the loras on it directly (because then they'll stack fine like on any other not-distilled model).
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Fresh when ready

>>108008951
>>108008951
>>108008951
>>108008951
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>>108008924
Developers shilling sdxl was pretty funny. Regulars here made more realistic 1girls with their shitty old 1070s using 1.5
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>>108008950
weird, lodestone trained the entirety of chroma at 512x and now he's training klein at 256x
i wonder what will happen!
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>>108008960
the VAE is so good that 256x resolution shouldn't be a problem
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>>108008941
Honestly I actually blame them for how long local stagnated, people did not want to move past that damn leak only the furries did. Then Flux came and again people wasted time on model that you couldn't finetune.
>>108008960
Please tell me you are joking...
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>>108008954
> 281
retard
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>>108008939
indeed indeed
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>>108008954
>Klein gone again
Part of me wants to chortle that the trolls deserve it, but honestly it should be included. The editing capabilities alone are a big deal.
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>when you slightly edit the chroma prompt and it starts spitting out plastic oversaturated abominations
why
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>>108009020
>>108009004

Yeah Klein Edit is nice but that's about it.
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>>108008143
For me ZIB easily replaces every sdxl/illust/noobai/pony shit mix I have on my computer because it actual follows prompts and generated realistic images. It is exactly what I needed, prompting it is really easy and it fully loads on my 12G so its plenty fast for such a capable model.

I really suspect a lot of same fagging trolls ITT. probably some ass blasted BFL pleb
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nigger
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nigger nigger nigger
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nigga please
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niggerstudio
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nigger diffusion general
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nigger klein or nigger base?
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>>108006765
>>Maintain Thread Quality
>https://rentry.org/niggero
>https://rentry.org/niggeranon
why are these not in the op?
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niggertrix or niggerstep for my niggerbeats?
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ani = nigger
based baker of this nigger thread
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dumb nigger forgot to sage
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will china save nigger diffusion?
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>>108009321
I'm thinking yes
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>>108009331
me too
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>>108009335
based
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>>108009338
based on what?
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>>108009331
>>108009335
>>108009338
>>108009341
samenigger
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Is nigger here? I have a question.
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>>108009358
Yeah, what's up?
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>>108009363
Nevermind, I forgot
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>>108009385
>>108009385
>>108009385



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