>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3DBudget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 9950X3D*Multiple manufacturers reporting issues on AM5 platforms. Do your research.*On Raptor Lake microcode is mandatory>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Bad mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt-Used: 2080, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native/High-end: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)*Pulsar release soon, consider waiting if you've an Nvidia GPU.>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous: >>108089023
These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.>News & RumorsThe Steam console will cost more than projected because of RAM pricesMemory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell6x and dynamic framegen coming in the springG-Sync PulsarARC B390Prices rise for everything.>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviewshttps://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Other helpful LinksMobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PCGerman autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ
update your bios
based predictor of the futurehttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/350c_AMJjdw>whats it gonna be like 50 years from now, anons?
I don't know if I'm imagining things or not, but something about this Phantom Spirit doesn't sit right with me.
>>108095467if you look at the coldplate with a microscope it has all these pits and dents. its not a completely flat surface so we use paste to try to fill it in.
>>108095467a non issue
>>108095488No I'm saying that the tilt on these towers is fairly noticeable even from a neutral position and I'm not sure if that's from the asymmetry of the design or because something is catastrophically bent somehow. This Hyper 212 is a lot straighter for example.I am was worried for a while my thermals were compromised by uneven mounting pressure because I assumed this went down to the coldplate, but adjusting the tension on either screw seems to have no effect on the tilt.Open airflow case temperatures went up to 70C on the 3700X in Small FFTs, though I saw a spike at one point to 80C most recently that went unexplained. This chip shouldn't go past the mid-60s regardless of paste pattern application, MX4 in this case.
>>108095584the way you install makes all the difference in the world from paste to how you tighten the screws in a pattern.
How much better is the 9070xt vs the 9060xt if I'm use to 1080 60hz? Is 1440 and a faster refresh rate monitors much more common and cheaper now and less of a meme?
>>108095584Actually no, the Hyper 212 when centered is actually perfectly level on the 4770K, the PS120 is noticeably tilted downwards. I am superstitious.
>>108095619It will be more future proof to get the 9070XT if you can afford it.
>>108095621>level on the fanare you taking the piss on us
Seriously considering ending my friendship with someone because I just found out they bought an njudea gpu instead of 9070 xt. I just can't bring myself to interact with someone anymore who would betray Lisa and AMD like this. When he first told me yesterday i just screamed at him and hung up the phone. now i woke up to texts from him begging it's not that serious but he just doesn't get jt
>>108095671You know he is.
Report all flamewarring, trolling, spamming posts. Long live /pcbg/!Post your /pcbg/ anyway but know that we have enraged the amdshitposter to the degree that he has vowed to shit up this thread with trash with the goal of killing it.Spotting the shitposters: the shitposters may be working at gunpoint in a bot farm, paid shill/bot farm, lone schizo, etc. the shitposters rarely ever just tags the OP and asks for it to be updated or changed as asked for in the second part of the sticky. they also resort to things like ad hominem, racism, cherry picked benchmarks, false information, etc. and one of my favorite things is the lone post tagging no one but responding to some previous reply to whatever argument it felt it was losing or with a one-liner just to flood the vapid minds of the unwashed masses with <specific vendors products>. the shitposters necropost old tropes to flood the threads and bump post counts e.g. random garbage questions that any /noob/ would just google or disingenuous descriptions of problems that are copypasta with a few words changed in them. Single line, low-quality posts are often the copypasta. Most recently the OP appears to be trying a super stealth approach - creating the OP with only "subtle" alterations like "-Avoid Nvidia Due To Possible Melting Connectors & Driver Problems", and griefing /g/ by creating and self deleting the thread after a short while.remain vigilant, /pcbg/, report in silence, and above all - have fun.
>>108095671I just like to keep my fans level along with the heatsinks they are attached to.
>>108095720No one cares mini mod faggot. Go make your own pcbg subbreddit if you wanna try and control the general like this
If there's one upgrade you could make for your PC and setup what would it be right now
>>108095760big titty goth bitch
>>108095315Dumbass Canadian jeet
Well how about that. Something tells me this thermal paste pattern is not a coincidence, the area it was tilting towards is basically clean as you can see while the other side is still covered on both coldpate and IHS.Looks like my X pattern the first time was actually perfect while my pea of babel here leaked out all onto the PCIE side and created air pockets. Maybe it was just bad paste application on my second attempt rather than just uneven mounting, but I will check the standoffs just to be sure.
>>108095645Thanks for the rec.
>>108095799and this is why we spread the paste instead of falling for reddit memes
>>108095799>>108095811that's why you buy ptm7950 and stop with the memes forever.
>>1080957601000w psu -> 1200w psu
>>108095836im not spending the money equivalent of an entire syringe mx7 for a single use pad on a bulky cooler
>>108095867that single pad is not got to degrade. unless you like to repaste stuff i don't see any downsides.
>>108095867you can buy in varying sizes. a sheet that will do your entire system (cpu,gpu,nvme) is like $26.
>>108095836>that's why you buy ptm7950 and stop with the memes forever.Are they reusable? I was thinking about buying a sheet to chop up and use for my CPU and GPU from a supposedly legit seller, but I already bought 45g of MX4 a long while back. Bought had it with cleaning the paste off the AM4 socket for hours last time.How do you tell if you got legit 7950 versus a cheap knockoff anyway?
>>108095896>Are they reusable?not but why would you remove the cooler again.
>>108095836>ptm7950I tried it (Kryosheet), seems to work as advertised. Would recommend.
>>108095896>Are they reusable?no>a sheet>from a supposedly legit sellelmao>How do you tell if you got legit 7950 versus a cheap knockoff anyway?you dont, you heave no test stand and no reference numbers. You will forever wonder if your temps could be better or not
>>108095799Just spread the paste evenly on the socket before installing the CPU!
>>108095896>Are they reusable?Supposedly. Not sure what it will be like after some years but have re-used this type of materials in the past.
>>1080957604090 -> 6090
>>108095910>You will forever wonder if your temps could be better or notI got paste for days that is best before 2032 so I'll be doing that anyway, don't know about the Mastergel from 8 years ago or whatever Thermalright bundled here.
>>108095811>>108095912The point of the paste is to push the air out, by spreading it evenly you'll just trap more air when pushing the cooler onto it.
>>108095931never had air between my cpu and cooler. that's a meme. if you press it down and turn it a bit left and right it should be fine. like what is this bullshit. that's past and not some screen protector.
>>108095931the point of spreading is to wet the entire heatspreader. the dot in theory with the glass plate test spreads evenly, but with a bulky tower cooler and just two mounting screws thats not always the case, pressing the paste out towards one side while the other stays uncoated.And on modern cpucs with chiplets thats not good. Nobody recoments the center dot anymore.meanwhile a few tiny air bubbles dont even have measurable impact
>>108095931No matter how evenly you spread it, you can't make it any thinner than possible gaps between cooler and HS. But the thinner you get it the better even the heat transfer.
>>108095811>>108095912Since when was the Verge build method the meta?
>>108095925I don't like those suspiciously AM4 CPU shaped scratches on that coldplate
>>108095978my awakening was when i opened a waranty seal intact amd gpu (not mine) and looked at 1/3 of the die not being coated at all, no residue from pump-out, just shiny silicon
If you wonder why 4chan feels dead now this is why
>>108096000Frost the cake dude. It's guaranteed 100 percent coverage.
>>108096080What about leakage?
>>108095904You know, having a be quiet case for the first time even if it's a hotbox from 10 years ago makes me realize I should have appreciated German designed products sooner (where it makes sense)
>>108096067Idgi
>>108096098Just lick it off.
Isn't the spread method only effective for stuff like LGA 1700 and up CPUs?
>>108096209No it works on everything. Thermal paste is generally non conductive. Too much is better than too little.
what gpu should i get? im using my rig for gaming and modeling 3d 4k furry assesi live in mexico bordering texas, my budget is my 3080 and 450 dollars
>buy 3080 founders on release>spec out everything>mine for 2 years>sell as soon as payout hits my balance>free PCthere will never be a time as good as that. anyone who bought a graphics card back then was basically getting a free high-end gaming PC, especially if they lived in an apartment with free utilities.
>>108096067I really wonder how low the post count will get eventuallyI see it trickling down every day at a faster rate than ever I've lost count the times I went to make a thread, saw the new shit they got and up just went fuck it, it's not that deep
>>1080962344090 buyers are up there as well. Play for years and make money selling used.
>>108096246they really want people to buy a 4chan pass but nobody is buying a 4chan pass after they raised the prices and the leaks+weeks long downtime exposed how shit the service is.
>mounting a convex coldplate cooler (ps120) on a convex IHS (zen 2) cpu >wtf why my paste application weird>wtf why my coldplate scratched up and fucked up>wtf why my temps badBaka...
>>108096067i've been hearing people complaining about the stars or whatever but i still have the easy 'good' ones so now I see the issue.I figured AI wouldn't have a problem with these anyway but was kind of surprised it can't make heads or tails of em
>>108096234Should be able to afford a 5070ti if you look hard enough
>>108096231>gaming and modelingWhat modeling software you are using, maybe that will help anons advise.
>>1080962315070 minimum for actual productivity. If you can spring a ti, great, but not really as important.
I got a 5080 for below MSRP.But, you know, maybe I should have got a 5090.
>>108096280You get the harder ones when your try to make a thread. The ones just for posting are easy.
How much does RAM speed matter? I have bought half the parts for a new PC, but I haven't bought any RAM yet. It'll have to be DDR5 so I'm going to be eating shit whatever happens, but I've seen much cheaper DDR5 RAM that's just got a lower speed. Will that be a problem?
>>108096370With X3D, it doesn't for gaming. For everything else, it's a few percentages, but it's not a massive deal.It was spoke about more when RAM was cheap and getting fast RAM was only a $100 premium. Now it's like twice the price and makes sense to nobody.
anon tiptldr: some stuff will get dumped on the used market, so don't panic stuff that's too old.Basically the usa is running out of electricity. the whole world, actually.so, this basically puts pressure on older hardware that isn't efficient.VERY FEW old things will be kept.That's the basic situation.also, if you are smart you'll BUY a real gas/propane generator. Even if you have plenty of money & the grid stays up, the smart grid may say "whoa, too many watts gamer girl*"*ywnbaw
>>10809637716 gb ddr5 5 6000 with a 9800x3d is good?
>>108096452What's the CL?
>>108096452Shoot for 32gb even if you have to get slower speeds. Nothing is slower than running out of RAM. Freezing and crashing is far worse than a 5 percent performance hit.
>>108096539they coulda said this at any time but say it in the time when memory is the most expensive ever
>>108096539Windows 11 needs 32gb to run the spyware.
>>108095799The best paste pattern is windmill of friendship and tolerance.My CPU never gets above 85 ℃ at maximum stress test
>>10809645216gb is bad man I'm reaching close to that sometimes with a browser with a few tabs and an open game.
>>108096472Cl 32>>108096550I'll buy then>>108096632Fuck me
>>108095904>ptm7950>I tried it (Kryosheet)Those are two different things.The former is a very thin, light gray putty like sheet. PTM7950 is the Honeywell name.The latter is a shiny, paper thin graphene sheet. Kryosheet is the Thermal Grizzly name.
>>108096539>>108096551>>108096556https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/learning-center/optimize-your-gaming-pc-setup7800X3D/13700K/4080/7900XTX are the Microsoft recommended CPU+GPU combo for a immersive next gen experience. Everything else is driver issues or hardware issues.
>>1080966639070xt no good?
>>108096677Even AMD recommends you use Linux over Windows. AMDVLK was dropped and Windows has no replacement like RADV.
>>108096700I tried Linux but it was difficult, I tried arch
>>108096714Try Mint or if you're super normie those gaming distros like Bazzite.
>>108096730Like I'm a bit of a schizo, but bad at computersI'll try bazzite
My B650M-HDV/M.2 fried and I need a new mobo. My specs = 9800x3d + 4090 + 2x32gb CL30 ram.Which of these 4 would you go with?1. Asus Tuf Gaming B850m-plus Wifi DDR5 AM5 ATX - $3602. Asrock X670e Pg Lightning DDR5 AM5 ATX - $4203. Asus Prime X870-p Wifi DDR5 AM5 ATX -$4404. Asus Rog Strix B850-g Gaming Wifi DDR5 ATX AM5 -$470>inb4 buy xyz insteadUnfortunately these 4 are my only options. Communist country with not many options, prease understand.
Anons what do you think nvidia has in store for this "upgraded" 5090 this year?
>>108096663>modern quad-core>Ryzen 5600/Intel 12400lol, lmao, they're not even trying to hide this article was entirely written by AI.
>>108096809a 6 core turns into a 4 core with how windows hogs up 2 favorite cores.
