>forced DRM down your throat
>>108178981You're a retard if you think that steam forces deva to use DRM and they wouldn't use DRM if steam wasn't a thingSome games have their own fucking launchers and account systems in steam So you launch the game on steam which launches the game launcher where you login to the publisher's account system so that you can launch the actual fucking gameTechnology was a mistake.
>>108178981>DRM>DRM, Gaben
>>108179093so, since steam isn't drm, how can i unlink a steam game from my account so i can give it to a friend?dumb valvenigger cuck
>>108179125Steam provides a DRM option, which some devs use, some devs employ their own DRM instead/in addition, and some devs don't use at all. If the game has no DRM, you can just copy and paste the files regardless of whether they originated from steam or not, there are plenty of DRM free games on steam.You are literally complaining about something you don't understand
>>108179125If the dev chose to not use DRM in the game you can just copy & paste the game install and give it to your friend. If the dev added DRM, then you cannot because the dev doesn't want to let you do that. Steam offers a kind-of compromise in this case, you can do the account sharing thing it has and your friend will at least be able to play when you're not using your account.
>>108179143>valvenigger DRM cuck cant readshocker
>>108179143>>108179155so, since steam isn't drm, how can i unlink a steam game from my account so i can give it to a friend to link to their account and have full functionality including updates and multiplayer?dumb valvenigger cuck
>>108179199You asked how you can give a game you bought on steam to your friend. I answered that question in its entirety: If the game's developer does not employ ANY DRM, whether that's Steam's or another type, then you can simply copy and paste the files. The only one who can't read here is you
>>forced DRM down your throathttps://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steam (not exhaustive list=
>>108179207>I answered that question in its entirety:>>108179125>how can i unlink a steam game from my account>valvenigger DRM cuck cant readshocker
>>108179208>a whole 200 indie garbage games that no one would even pirate out of 200,000 games on steamDRM storevalveniggers are truly grasping
>>108178981OH NO NO NO NO, gaymers keep taking L after L after L, the dilation ratio is through the roof
>>108178981Hi TimAnother day ending in Y for you I see?
>>108179221That's not a DRM issue, that's a resale issue. "Trading" a game without DRM would still be technically illegal, and a game with DRM could be resold just fine if the account provider chose to allow it. You are using the wrong terminology then you're calling people illiterate for not answering the question you thought you were asking
>>108179205You are confusing license restrictions with DRM.Name a site where you can do what you described.>>108179226Don't hurt your back moving all the goal posts.
>>108179228Tim's Epic Games Store locks you out of most games the moment your internet connection goes away.
>>108179231>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT LE HECKIN DO THAT ITS ILLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEGAAAAAAALLLLL AND BAD FOR GAY BEN'S JEWGOLDSSSS OH GOD REAM MY ASS HARDER GAY BENValvecuck DRM bootlickers everyone.
>>108179251I didn't say any of these things, who's the one who can't read?
>>108179245You misspelled Steaming DRM store valvecuck. >>10817922699.9999% of your DRM store games are unplayable every time Gay Ben trips over his own fat rolls and rips out the ethernet from the DRM servers.
>>108178981invented locking you into an account and making you not own anythinginvented lootboxes and started peddling gambling to childrenonly ever made one game that they never finished (everything else was just buying out other companies to finish their games under his name)gaben is a piece of shit but valvecucks want to eat his ass out. literally a cult
>>108179125how do I unlink a game from my gog account
>>108179125You don't have a friend.
>>108179125You literally just copy files in your file browser in any non drm game and send it to your friend.
>>108179326But you don't have a friend. Why are you using this tired talking point when it doesn't even apply to you? You're obviously so lonely that you have to post the same nonsense over and over again. Maybe try to actually find a friend?
>>108178981I want GabeN to force himself down my throat.
>>108179125So here's the instructionsStep 1: Take the folder of your DRM free game.Step 2: Put it on an USB flash driveStep 3: Give USB flash drive to your friend.I tested it, works. I'm also the friend I gave it to, I have 2 Steam accounts.
>>108179326see >>108179226
>>108179408>of your DRM free game.lollmao even >>108179226
>>108179435Nice goal post moving. Now the games that are DRM free aren't good enough, only games with DRM are good.
If you can't resell it, you don't own it.Simple as.
>>108179428Don't see why I should care?
>>108178981gaymers b gay for gaben, MOAR news @ 11
>>108179093The game is on steam, it’s only in steam. There is no alternative way to download said game without steam. Everything goes back to steam requiring you to sign away your legal rights. Stop with the lies.
>>108179207That’s pirated content you idiot, that’s against steam user agreement. There is no way to give games away without breaking this rule.
>>108178981On paper I'm outraged but it's so trivial to crack it's just there for compliance, similar to YouTube and most other streaming sites not using widevine. And Windows and Office I guess. I don't really care about check boxes or licenses or EULAs as long as the software runs.
>>108179093They didn't use such restrictive DRMs before Steam.Valve is pioneer in the area, it's a historical fact and your gaslighting won't change that.
>>108179523>The game is on steam, it’s only in steam. There is no alternative way to download said game without steam.That sounds like the devs' fault, not Steam's.
>>108179561DRMs before Steam were very restrictive. You needed to have the literal CD in the drive. Even if the game was 100% installed on HDD, you still needed the CD in the drive.Some of the DRMs the CDs deployed were pretty much malware tier. Steam is pretty bad too, but back in 2006 or so when Steam was still relevant as frontier DRM, I'd take it over StarForce or Securom any day.
>>108179093The CD for Half Life 1 requires you to enter the code. They are not the good guys that you thought they were, they never were the good guys.
>>108179093Found the go online to go offline retard.
>>108179580>current stage: 3
>>108178981Rothschild thread
>>108179942ugliest sons of inbred fucks i've ever seen
>>108179096if every DRM was as uninstructive as Steam (single check on startup) then we wouldn't have massive performance impact and root level malware like what is considered normal today
>>108179956if valveniggers didn't guzzle cum for breakfast every morning, we would have GoG be the standard and have 99% DRM free PC gaming instead of 0.00000001% DRM free PC gaming like we do now
>>108179995why didn't they start their business back in 2007 when their model is such a better solution?
>>108179995this, i never got into Steam and don't buy there. If it's not on GOG I won't get it.
>>108180200
>>108180200>>108180373that form of GOG only started to manifest in 2013. it took em that long to convince dead software to be released DRM free (and also updated for modern hardware; something that Steam doesn't really offer afaik)
>>108178981>Be Steamie>Read disclaimer>Fuck off from Steam foreverSteam may be "nice" now but when Gabe dies it's going straight to hell. I know nothing of his sons and I can't trust them to not see the dollar signs and go public. When Steam goes public it's ogre.
>>108179093>Some games have their own fucking launchers and account systems in steam So you launch the game on steam which launches the game launcher where you login to the publisher's account systemValve are niggers for allowing this.
>>108181668Steam was DRM hell from day 1. Gay Ben has never seen anything but dollar signs.
>Gabe invents the weakest, easiest to subvert DRM ever>somehow convinced entire Industry to use it (aside from a small number of AAA)Thanks Gaben!
Steam made drm acceptable and I hate them for this reason. It's like selling your soul to the devil, one day or another you'll have to pay the price.
I know Steam is a privacy, ownership and security nightmare. I support Valve because of Gabe Newell's high impact sexual magnetism, not because they're good for the business.
>>108178981what's with the delusional belief that things would be better if it wasn't valve?everything valve did would've been done worse by someone else and it would've happened whether you want it or notlook at games for windows live for the non steam benchmark, that's what you'd getat least steam has paper thin drm and is pushing for the ecosystem to improve with their linux work and investment
>>108178981oh hey haven't seen you in a while
>>108178981nice try moron. GabeN saved pc gaming from dying since publishers were constantly pushing "PC IS DEAD". Fuck off and die.
>>108178981I simply cannot tell you how mad I was. I had like 512 MB of ram. Pentium 4 1.7 Ghz quite literally minimum specs. And this steam thing came along and hoged like 50~100 MB and the fucking Half Life 2 had a recommended requirement of 512 MB. And I also had a ATI Radeon 9000 PRO so the game barely ran really. Fucking hell. It took me until 2007 to actually install steam because I wanted to play CS Source. When I got a new PC.
>Crucifying the Combine soldiers with the crossbow because they would randomly de-aggro in the shitty Steam-downloaded version.People forget how bad and hated Steam was in the beginning.
>>108179143it's this dude's main shizo fascination. you can't have a thread on anything vaguely related to steam/valve/newell without him shitting it up with angry longposts. it's pretty fuckng all so tiresome. back in the day you used to need the game manual or something like that to get past the games copy protection. i don't know what this nigger is complaining about, apparently just pirating shit is becoming too hard or something? i don't care.
>>108179263and typically once he gets proven wrong he just degenerates into schizo greentext and ad hominen. i assume this is his main form of social contact with the outside world.
>>108178981As opposed to?
>>108184385the world where you sing kumbaya, everyone decides to not kill physical and some worse entity doesn't replace the power vacuum
>>108184385Forcing cock down your throat.
>>108181883It’s because of him we can’t pirate all games. This is a war crime in gaming.
>>108184236eat shit and die DRM cuck
>>108178981/v/ will defend the fat kike to death, and even though they have committed a lot of sins, it is true that steam provides advanced service in terms of:- instant messaging- sharing- mod downloads- user forums- ultrahigh speed download CDN for games- ultrawide game selection- one-click experience- running games on linux with Proton- Steam VR- Steam DeckIt seems primitive and asinine that apparently having this small degree of support is considered luxurious, but the fact that they're able to secure all this means that they're at least competent enough to warrant your business.Again, I know they have a lot of sins in their past, but their level of service, in practice, is really good and is worth of all levels of commendment.
>>108184885Game created denuvo?
>>108178981The issue with Steam is that no matter what they do they always come out as the lesser evil.If they do one thing bad, it's either quickly followed by something even worse by every other company, or was already proceeded by it.
>>108186366>fat kike hands written post
>>108178981>Gabe BTFOs the Rothjews >instant Steam seething threads on multiple boardsStay mad kikes!
>>108178981who the fuck cares about this fat, sweaty retardjust pirate hl2 and move on with your life.
>>108178981too many /v/niggers on /g/, no wonder it's absolute trash
>>108187036Gay Ben is literally the Rothjews you dumb kikelover.
man, that Rothschild lawsuit really made the glowie mald this time.I've already seen multiple threads on /v/ and /g/ from melties like OP
>>108179324LOL
>itt EGS sponsored trolls that pretend gaben invented drm in 2004
>>108178981Don't consoles have to be connected to the internet to work, too?
>DRM
>>108187773underage B&
>>108187773works on my machine
>>108187760Why are they like this?
>>10818880380% of the console market is digital, so DRM too.
>>108187760>>108188847steam literally invented account locking DRM valvenigger
>>108188803consolefags are so retarded lmao
Keep seething Rothschild
>>108179096It's so weird how gamers view Steam as the DRM free option while most Linux people view it as the DRM option (and stuff UbiSoft etc does just isn't available to us at all.)I quit buying video games for nearly a decade after the first game I bought that demanded Steam and couldn't update over my slow internet connection. I didn't start buying them again until I realized GOG sells newer indie games.Of course now GOG wants to be more like Steam so I might go back to just playing old/open source games.
>>108178981Hey Timmy, you're supposed to be posting on /v/, not here you dumb fucking retard.
>>108188976>>108188863Hey Gay Ben, get some exercise you fat kike.
>>108186366>ThEirSeViCeiSgoODNo it’s not, they literally hate refunds and Australia made them offer it. Valve fought the government to their Supreme Court. It’s now a landmark case that USA has to offer refunds to Australia.Valve fought in France to prevent online digital trading.Valve committed EU GEO price locks to scam customers in Europe.Valve paid a casino to shut up about their gambling business in their games.Valve user agreement says it uses FAGMAN to help them. They sell your gaming experience and information to the companies you hate.Stop with the lies.
>>108179581a CD key doesn't require any connection or account. you just need to type in a valid combination, like 0000-00000-0003
>>108190809niether does going the fuck outside.
>>108188803This bait is fucking delicious.
>>108178981he's too powerful, can he even be stopped ?
The holders of copyright also own nothing. Data cannot really be owned even if these criminals of the sect of law say otherwise.
>>108179093>You're a retard if you think that steam forces deva to use DRMsteam literally forces devs to use their DRM
can only run one app from your library at a time
Half life is the most overrated game to ever exist
>>108193886 >Gay Ben desperately and pathetically trying to win back valvedrones with $3 shovelware trash giveaways while Tim Epic gave me a 400 game catalog of AAA titlesEpic is the same trash as Steam, but they weren't the ones that invented account DRM. I feel less bad giving shekels to them considering the free library I've got now paid for by fortnite zoomers. Meanwhile the only games on my Steam account is HL2 from my retail copy that fatass forced me to authenticate over 56k just to play the campaign.
Steam DRM is so weak it might as well not exist. They have allowed it to stay this way for a very long time. Complaining about it is like complaining about getting a papercut without remembering how in the same situation people used to get stabbed all the time. Things were not better before. You just imagine they were because you either did not live through these times or you were not paying enough attention. Let me refresh your memory.https://youtu.be/p-wyIalhdPUhttps://youtu.be/u8ltfyqD3lMBesides all the problems this bullshit caused for people when these games were new think about how much trouble this causes for people who want to play old games on new machines. What's going to be easier ten years from now, using a steam emulator like Goldberg or hunting down cracks for the cumbersome cancerous shit they used to slap on games? It's so bad that there are instances of game studios selling old scene cracks so their games run in the versions on steam and such.Don't mistake this for Valve glazing. Just remember it can be worse. The past proves it. The present is a fucking cakewalk in comparison. You have nostalgia for a golden age that never existed in the first place.
>>108194734If it may as well not exist, why is it 99.99% of Steam games can't be just copied to a USB drive and given to a friend?
>>108179125Tell your poorfag friend to get a job and buy his own damn games.
>>108194748They can if you make the simple modification of adding Goldberg which is universal. Unlike old times where if you wanted to give one of your games to a friend you would need to hunt a no-CD crack from that specific game from gamecopyworld.com, or use fancy expensive proprietary software like clonecd to make a perfect CD-R copy.
>>108194734>Things were not better before.Spoken like a true underage Valvenigger.I used to copy my Starcraft CD and wrote a .txt with the serial on it to give to friends so we could all play LAN. We all did this for years until that fat kike dreamed up his DRM scheme to kill PC LAN gaming completely.It was absolutely 100% better before Gay Ben took a steaming shit on PC gaming.
>>108194757So Starcraft was that weak but not every game was. Hence the need for cracks in the first place. Just because you were a poorfag and only owned one game doesn't mean that was the experience with all games.
I think you guys are just too fucking retarded to know how to copy a dll file lmao.
This whole thread is PEBKAC. A bunch of boomers screaming about solved problems. You are old. You don't even play games anymore. You just want to complain.
>>108178981Gab' shit down my throat yummyyummers
>>108178981>DRM
The social media aspect of Steam has created lock-in and undying cult like loyalty. So much so that gamerfags will screech and cry if they need to use a different launcher to play a game, even if that game is given to them for free. I have not purchased a PC game since 1997. Since I only pirate my view on things comes from that position. Complaining about Valve for DRM is stupid. Their DRM is as weak as those TSA locks on luggage that can be opened with a master key you can buy on eBay. Except the key is free on github. You just put the DLL in the folder and you're off to the races. Just as easy as any crack you would use in previous decades except it's universal. That's the last thing I'm going to complain about.
>>108179093>You're a retard if you think that steam forces deva to use DRM and they wouldn't use DRM if steam wasn't a thingThis.
>>108194764>noooooooooo le heckin 0.001% of DRM out there at the time was WORSE than Steamingshit, that's why STEAMINGSHIT IS SO GOODvalveniggers subhumans need to be rounded up and lynched
>>108194868Steam itself is literally DRM and 99% of games on Steam will not run without it you dumb nigger. Not surprising that Valvetards don't even understand what DRM is.
>>108194871Calm down with the memespeak. It doesn't make you sound any more authoritative. Starcraft puts you in a very specific age bracket and you post like a child who is getting groomed on Roblox when he isn't laughing at soijak memes on the sharty.It wasn't just 0.001% of games that had something more complicated than a serial check going on. It was most major games. Who cares about shovelware? If you were a normalfag you could not simply copy game CDs in most cases without specialized software. If you were not a normalfag you knew where to get scene releases. Hence why I said I haven't purchased a PC game since 1997. Having an internet connection means you don't need to do that.
>>108191920It does not. Tons of games on Steam are literally DRM free and many use DRM other than Steam DRM.On games without DRM, Steam only functions as a method of download. After you've downloaded the game, you can back it up however you please.
>>108194884The only relationship I have to Valve is a 100% parasitic one because I only pirate games. Complaining about the situation, one that is very much beneficial to me, would be stupid. If I could copy a cracked exe to a game's folder in Program Files in 2001 as a literal child then you as an adult (you need to be 18+ to post on this website) can figure out how to copy a DLL so a game you purchased works without the Steam launcher. No excuses. If you refuse to except that stop your crying, pissing, and pointless moaning and do what I do. Pay $0 and pirate it. Enjoy the game for free.
>>108194949>If you refuse to except thatShould say accept that. Oh well sometimes the retardation of the people I'm replying to rubs off on me. Maybe I'll start aggressively niggering everyone in the thread next lmao.
>>108194908>a whole heckin 300 shovelware indie shit is DRM free on steam out of 300,000 titles t-t-take th-that!valveniggers are literally subhuman, unworthy of breathing the same air as human beings
>>108194969They subsidize what we do so we can't hate their mindless consumerism too much. Even if we watch them accept worse treatment all the time. Paying higher prices for worse things.
>had like 50 games on steam around 2012>had always shared my old games with my little cousin my entire life>he asks if i have any games i'm not playing one summer when they were visiting>they all use this steam shit now but you can just log in with my account to download and play them>playing some CS 1.6>you've been kicked off because cousin signed in on another computerThat's the last year I've ever given a penny to that fat bastard gaben.
>>108194963Strange way of coping. Nobody who seethes as much as you about simply getting a fact incorrect would be classified as a human.
>>108178981>Be VaLVE>Make Steam>Produce banger games.>Buy then produce one of the most famous and biggest FPS games ever made.>Implement skins cuz fatty needs 15th Yacht.>That face when skins make more profit then 1000 games together.>Fatty's yacht already docked.>Game in shambles, cheater shots trough the smokes and kill everybody 0 ban but when you flick insta ban since slop AI anti-cheat.>Players cry constantly about how broken game is.>Fatty enjoy's yacht and don't give a shit about his own games.He truly won.
>>108195010Now they introduced family group where people can play different games at the same time. I always share my games with family and they play some shit from my vast library of games without disturbing me.
>>108195041>won>so fat he needs s dedicated team of doctors following him around 24/7 for when he overexerts himself from taking 2 steps
>>108195042>finally eases his ironfist DRM grip after 2 fucking decades of shitting on PC gaming>haha th-they so gud to us gamers eh?valveniggers are literally subhuman, unworthy of breathing the same air as human beings
>>108178981>Microsoft deletes secdrv.sys>Physical copy of The Sims 3 ceases to functionAwful either way desu
>>108195050They used to have family plan for a long time now. Previously it was bit of a shit be abuse only one person could play at the time.>Things get better with timeTerrible isn't it? It's better to suck on EA dick, company that makes everything worse every year.
>pirate everything>have 400 game library on epic>even multiplayer games>never gave a penny to epic>never gave a penny to gay ben>uninstalled steam since it's useless shit>play everything for freeit's that shrimple
>>108178981How am I supposed to quit Steam when I've spent 2000+ dollars on it over the years?
>>108195068This is the valve shill playbook. Accuse you of being an EA/Ubisoft/Epic dicksucker. Valve hires shills to keep people from realizing it's a complete monopoly.You simply cannot release a game for PC giving a cut to Steam, and expect it to succeed. Textbook Monopoly.
>>108195045yeah even those two are too much.
>>108195041Yeah and the creator of CS is a pedophile.
zoomoids don't remember the different CD copy protection methods that eventually could be emulated by daemon tools. or when you had to use a code wheel or look up words on a page of the game manual.
>>108195182You can take any company other than valve.>But physical mediaSecurom/starforce only allowed installation on 3 devices and later versions didn't allow simultaneous uses.It's almost like drm was the way industry moved for a long long time.Side loading it all to valve is stupid when Sony is daddy of all drm.
>>108195271DRM isn't even the problem, it's the fact that you're forced to give 30% of your profits to the fatman in order to sell a game on PC.
>>108195368Why do you care?
>>108195041based as fuck, fuck gaymers in their neet ahssoles
>>108195379Oh I dunno, maybe because Valve parasites off the entire industry, making it less healthy as a whole.We're talking tens of billions of dollars that are siphoned away from the developers and put into gabe's yacht company.This is exactly why leftists hate all billionaires, this kind of behavior, where you produce nothing and take all the money. It's vampirism.
>>108195397They can always just publish themselves or on another platform.But no, they refuse to do that because Steam ultimately makes developers the most money despite their fees.Of course not a single soul sees the issue on console, it's only Steam that is the problem despite being not forced to use them to publish on PC.Arguments about Steam falls flat from the PC/Windows platform being open.Publish your shit elsewhere if you want to make a statement.
COME BACK HOME WHITE MAN
>>108195397That's how stores work. Greenmangaming also take % of sales. Do you think hosting, renting and up keeping servers is free or something?
>>108194777No the problem is Steam requires you to have an account to download said game. There is no actual way to download it without an account. On the old days we used to just download it without account required.
>>108195453>Steam ultimately makes developers the most money despite their fees.This is only because gamercattle are so brainwashed that they will literally boycott games that aren't on Steam, while simultaneously say that Steam does not have a monopoly.
>>108194814>IamOkSignINgwaYmYRiGhtsStupid American people, you can’t download games without Steam accounts and games are being online only is increasing. You will be left behind, you will lose access to the features games provided. You allowed this to happen. You supported them.
>>108196208>BUY FROM ME YOU RETARDED RACIST ANTISEMITIC GOY! REEEEEEEEE MONOPOLY
>>108195485>>108195453Yeah okay, Valve shill, you completely dodged the point. The developers "choose" to put their game on Steam because otherwise people wouldn't buy it. Why? Because there's a classic monopoly.Hosting costs are literally nothing today. I can go find a 100 random sites to go upload 50gb. It's not 2008 anymore.Valve at one point was the most profitable company in America per-employee. That's beating out the Finance Jews, the Crypto schemes, and all the Gambling sectors.
>>108195456VADE RETRO, GFWL!
>>108178981I've seen what the other niggerfags had in store for us, I still remember GFWL being such a piece of shit cracking games was the way to go if you wanted to enjoy your vidyas in peace.
>>108196239just because you've set up a website doesn't mean people will trust you when your motives are obviousyou need to make a game people actually want to play to pull them away
>>108196239>Why? Because there's a classic monopoly.No one is forced to use steam, they choose itValve isn't putting a gun to people's head to buy from steam, Valve isn't locking your PC down or kicking you out should you install games from another source.It's not a monopoly when people have choice yet still choose the company with the vast majority of market share.
>>108196179>There is no actual way to download it without an account.Torrents, https://cs.rin.ru etc
>>108196213You didn't even read my post lmao. I don't use steam. Better the devil you know. If you have an objection do what I do. Pirate everything. Don't buy unless it's on gog. Even then a lot of this slop you shouldn't bother spending your hard earned money on.
>>108196275Actually the entire Wolfgaming lawsuit is because Valve Corporation is doing illegal contracts that don’t allow developers to upload games elsewhere.The entire document court papers: https://www.classaction.org/media/wolfire-games-llc-et-al-v-valve-corporation.pdfThe news: https://lawstreetmedia.com/news/tech/full-steam-ahead-valve-corp-sued-for-antitrust-violations-tying-video-games-to-steam-store/So yes they are under investigation for crimes against gamers.
>>108196276How did they manage to download games from Steam without an account? Stupid. Everything goes back to required account creation.
>>10819545330% on consoles makes sense because it's custom secure hardware that is 100% pirate-proof and cheat-proof. You also get 24/7 developer hotline support, SDKs, and free marketing in the product catalogs.>>108196275Google was ruled a monopoly, it's only a matter of time Valve-shill. The 30% cut will not last. Gambling Lootbox NFT's will not last. People are getting sick and tired of all the vampirism. In order for the gaming industry to be great again, good people need to be rewarded for their efforts, and lazy people need to GTFO.
>>10819632110. Steam Key Price Parity Provision. Valve nominally allows game publishers tomake some limited third-party sales of Steam-enabled games through its “Steam Keys” program. Steam Keys are alphanumeric codes that can be submitted to the Steam Gaming Platform bygamers to access a digital copy of the purchased game within the Steam Gaming Platform, evenwhen the game is not purchased through the Steam Store. Steam Keys can be sold by rivaldistributors including the Humble Store, Amazon, GameStop, and Green Man Gaming.>11. But Valve has rigged the Steam Keys program so that it serves as a tool to maintainValve’s dominance. Among other things, Valve imposes a price parity rule (the “Steam Key Price Parity Provision”) on anyone wanting to sell Steam Keys through an alternative distributor. Putexplicitly by Valve, “We want to avoid a situation where customers get a worse offer on the Steamstore.”3 But that is equivalent to preventing gamers from obtaining a better offer from acompeting distributor. The effect of this rule is to stifle price competition.they're literally seething about not being able to bypass steam's cut while using their services
>>108196223Typical gamercattle response.
>>108196359No the contract says you the developer cannot upload or share anywhere else to customers with discounts lower than Valve Corporation. This is illegal anon.
>>108196383typical commie responseif you can't compete with steam and think that the rapport it's built up with its customers means nothing then you don't deserve their custom
>>108196335Who cares?
>>108195271>noooooooooo le heckin 0.001% of DRM out there at the time was WORSE than Steamingshit, that's why STEAMINGSHIT IS SO GOODvalveniggers subhumans need to be rounded up and lynched
>>108196275meanwhile in the real world
>>108178981steam also set the insanely greedy 30% cut of sales long before apple even invented the app store. this motherfucker isn't your friend. we would have amazing games if those millions had gone to devs instead of his fleet of ships. try telling a gamer this, they worship this guy like the retards they are
>>108196401That's not how it was at all, zoomer. But spam 1000 more memes and make more /v/ tier posts. You sound like fucking dumbass.Lmao let me imitate youAhhhhhhhhh le heckin cringeola nigger steam gaybin STEAMINGSHIT VULVA nigger nigger 0001% nigger chungus
>>108178981Ahh refreshing thread mostly away from the Valve cucks the rest of the internet are.Now to rag on Valve: VALVE GIVE US BACK CS:GO YOU FUCKING CUNTS. MILLIONS OF US DIDN'T PAY FOR IT TO TURN INTO A KEK BETA APP ON CS2'S STOLEN LIBRARY ENTRY.
>>108196386no, it says you don't get to freeload the steam infrastructure by selling entry to steam versions outside of steam
>>108179125so, since physical media isn't DRM, how can I unlink my game from a genuine disc and give it to a friend
>>108196401>0.001%100% of console drm is worse than steamall physical drm would be worse than steam had it survived to current day
>>108196386You can price games however you want on other platforms.You just cant sell STEAM keys cheaper or point out where they are cheaper.
You can tell OP is literally fuming mad when you read his posts. He's animated when he types these. My favorite are the posts written in the exact same style agreeing with himself. Even better are the ones when he's violently angry. He thinks a video game sales platform is serious fucking business.
>>108196439seethe valvenigger
>>108196441video games make more than all other forms of entertainment combined but go off king
>>108196450Who cares? Stop buying them.
>>108196448securom's limited activations beg to differalso console drm is way more restrictiveit has to be that specific hardware, can't be modded, its files can't be accessed in any way and disc always has to be in
>>108196459see >>108196448
>>108196456ignoring a problem won't make it go away, especially when its a monopoly controlled by a billionaire
>>108196409posting on /v/ should ban you from /g/ for a week at minimum
>>108196448>>108196462Sell your games as physical discs then.Valve is not stopping you.
>>108196428>>108196386The only reason this exists is so Valve can legally say that they don't price control. However, it's limited to 5000 keys, and to get more than that, you need to get manually approved by someone at Valve(Good luck).
>>108196462>doesn't even address the postyou're fucking fuming lmaojust because you have a piece of plastic doesn't mean you're not being limited by drm
>>108196466Don't like it? Don't buy it. You can't force the world to think like you do. You can just pointlessly spill your autistic rage over nothing into 4chan threads. This is not the defining issue of our time. It's dumb manchildren doing what dumb manchildren do. Spending money on things that have no inherent value. You're just as much of a dumb manchild.
>>108196478see >>108196448
>>108196483thanks for affirming you don't actually have a way to dispute what i said
>>108196475no? it exists so that you can't just freeload off themit's fucking obvious to anyone with two braincells to rub together
>>108196483Buckbroken.
>>108178981Why do you think people care about DRM? Paying customers care that the shit they spend money on works as they expect. Do I care I don't technically own any of the hundreds of games in my Steam library? No I don't. I care that when I want to install any of the games I have on Steam they saturate my gigabit connection, apply patches automatically to games and everything just works so that I can just click play when I want to play a game. I'm old enough to remember the time before Steam. I don't want to go back to that.
>>108196508thanks for affirming you don't actually have a way to dispute what i saidsee >>108196448
>>108196548kike hands wrote this post
>>108196561but i didbeing able to transfer your licence doesn't mean your licence isn't made worse by other things, and physical has a fuckload of those other things
>>108196548Keep in mind that if the whole world goes to shit and you can't rely on the Steam API to do it's job for whatever reason most of those games can still be played. All you need is the Goldberg emulator. If you really have hundreds of them then backing them all up probably isn't a cost effective option. This has become the reality of PC gaming. But you should consider it for the things you do want to keep. WW3 could break out tomorrow and the whole internet could be shut off for "safety" reasons. You'd be pretty fucking bored when it came down to that.
>>108196548I'm old enough to remember the time before Steam. Your steaming shit DRM store literally never works.
>MUH HECKIN DRM STORE IS TOTALLY NOT DRM FELLOW ZOOMIES
>>108196397The court finds, wolfire and two other customers of caring.>>108196440Again it’s illegal, there is no other method that Valve allows for cheaper services.
>>108196602Irrelevant. I'd be more interested in hearing how many have custom DRM on top of the toothless Steam DRM.
>>108196572Working hands wrote the posts. People with jobs have a limited amount of free time. They want to spend that free time enjoying things, not fixing stuff while trying to enjoy things. And Steam just works.>>108196585I literally can't remember when is the last time Steam had any issues for me. But it was 10+ years ago.
I still remember a time when you could buy multiplayer games on eBay that came with the CD key.Theoretically, the seller could keep using the CD key themselves, but it was a different time back then.Valveniggers weren't even born then and have never tasted freedom in their entire lives, so of course they pretend that was never possible and that being born with Gay Ben's cock up their ass is the natural state of PC gaming.
>be steam>against censorship, pro-user, rejecting giving an inch to journalists>wins lawsuit>suddenly there's anti-steam posts in 4chan
>>108196579You can’t save ONLINE ONLY gamed anon, stop defending their lies. This means no CSGO, no DOTA, no Greymod, etc. stop lying.
>>108196633>you can't have online only games when the internet diesyou want a nobel prize for that discovery?
>>108196633I have never played an online only game in my life. I have never bought one. I am not interested in multiplayer. If you are then that's your problem.
>>108196623>try to reuse CD key for mutiplayer>CD key is banned because of mutiple reuses
>>108196653That's so much better than Steam. The permanence of physical media was not at all stained by DRM (lmao)
>>108196646Then don’t claim things like “just use emulation bro” when you know it doesn’t work for every game.
>>108196669>steam is at fault for the entire internet going down in an apocalypse scenarioactual valve derangement syndrome
>>108196669Let's go back to my post, >>108196579 since you seem to have a problem comprehending what you read. I highly suspect this is because you are very emotional right now and are trying to write angry responses as fast as you can.>most of those games can still be played>most of>most
>>108178981I get all my shit off dodi/fitgirl/gog-games so I don't give a shit, imagine paying for gayms after already paying out the ass for a GayPU.
>>108196632>>be steam>>pro censorship, anti-user, floods internet with fake pro-DRM """""""journalism""""""""fixed for reality
>>108196653>let your little brother play one game on your account>he calls some sjw a tranny and gets your entire account banned and lose all 1000 of your gamesobviously so much betterdumb valvenigger
>>108196695That's what you get for teaching your little brother to be an annoying chud like you lmao
>>108196688>company constantly attacked by lawyers from big corpo and journalists is suddenly the villain nowI do hope you are paid or ill-intentioned, this level of contrarianism is pretty dumb
>>108196680Anon, you still claim that emulation will solve the problem which itself doesn’t. 80% of games required Steam login, telemetry to the server, DRM like denuvo make emulation not possible and corporate using their money to sue the emulation team is why your dumb idea is never going to work.Here’s a video showing how wrong you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXArovLJ60A
>>108196695can you make it even more evident you don't know what you're talking about and are just blindly seething?point to one instance of this happening
>>108196780I would bet money that OP just saw some youtube short praising steam and entered in contrarian mode
>be me>get fallout 4 on release day>physical PC "copy">It's a single DVD with not even 1/3 of the assets>steam key inside
>>108178981>if you don't buy physical you own nothing >buy physical disk>3 installs permitted>changed computer? Buy another box!Nah thanks. Steam has been working for me for 15 years and playing games has never been this comfy. I can>play on Linux>stream to my TV via steam link>play hot seat games online via play together>it provides its own networking layer that won't get shut down when the developer quits>have access to hundreds of games without wasting shelf space>buy games for much cheaper without going through physical retailer>easily setup dedicated servers using steam CLIThanks, but I'm sticking with Steam
>>108196695You can call other people whatever the fuck you want in Valve games and you won't be banned. At worst you lose your ability to communicate with others temporarily. No one has ever lost their Steam account for calling someone a name. If your "little brother" got you banned in some game for calling people names it's not Valve who banned you.
>>108196695Why are you making shit up? Community ban does not take away access to your games.Anti steam shills are so desperate they have to came up with fictional stories to justify their choices.
>>108196845Also I've forgotten:>DRM is so trivial and non-invasive that you can crack 99% of games simply by drag and dropping universal steam crack/emu and it even let's you play online
>>108196632Rothschilds are really upset that Gaben BTFOs them in court for their jewish tactics.
>>108196845No you can’t play Linux games, only Steam games in Linux not outside. You also can’t play games on Linux that have DRM, so no Sonic Frontiers or anything AAA. Waiting on release since Linux doesn’t support those games.Any software can stream on TV, you can do it with cheap HDMI cable to the TV you lazy idiot.Co-Op died because of Valve and here you are celebrating corporate online gaming. There was a better way to play with others than online multiplayer.No it doesn’t, Artifacts players remember. Game is now unplayable because Valve themselves shut it down.Literally why the lawsuit exists, read the comments anon.No it’s not easy you lier.
>>108196898Why did you not read: >>108196778
Reminder that OP is a consolefag and should be ignored.
>>108196845see >>108196401
>>108196946>>108196927>so defeated he's not even trying to argue
>>108196963>makes bullshit claim >>108196401>gets BTFO by facts >>108196401>claims victorysasuga valveniggers
buying on steam feels like paying protection money to a cartel. what if they at some point close shop
>>108196995>factssecurom wasn't as rare as you're trying to pretend it was, zoomerand it was more restrictive and harder to crack than steam tooif you let physical drm evolve to the current day it would be absolutely unbearable
>>108196865If you buy a banned CD key from a 0 feedback seller with no history then you're retarded.None of the keys I bought on eBay ever got banned or used by the original owner again.But keep slurping Gay Ben's kike cum valvedrone.
Connecting to the internet one time is better than going to the shop one time for nerds though.>>108179125 Goldberg.
>>108197024>if you let physical drm evolve to the current day it would be absolutely unbearableRetards don't know about hardware USB keys just to use certain software.Steam is nothing compared to the kikery afoot with CAD/production software.
>>108197154>>108197150>the last bastion of cope for the valvenigger is boogeymanning about even worse DRM that affected 0.001% of games while pretending GoG doesn't exist which is infinitely better than their child casino DRM store
