Use case for android now that its a walled garden?
>>108224676You mean like how iPhone has always been?
Use case for side loading apps?
>>108224824Use case for being a cuck?
>>108224824Having fun with Termux
>>108224841Use case for use cases?
>>108224824Running programs they don't want you to. Primarily emulators, but there's other stuff too.
>>108224888There are emulators available on Google Play Store.
>xhe is still using androidkekinstall gnome
>>108224676Is it really? I thought it was basically just a new setting to disable.>>108224918We all wish we could.
>>108224904And when they are removed? You'll just accept the censorship?
>>108225000shut upgoogle knows best
>>108224676Termux probably. If they manage to take that away too, it's no better than iPhone and the only reason not to get an iPhone instead will be if you can't afford one.
>>108224676i'll continue using my highend 2022 phone with 2025 android. no need for more
>>108224676Use case for phones that do anything more than call and text
>>108224824I make my own apps since most of the apps out there are dog shit slop made some Indian in New Deli. I make my own to get it to do exactly what I need. Now I will have to switch to a Linux phone.
>>108224817Yes.
>>108224918>No banking apps>Terrible security >Terrible hardware support >Turns cameras into shit>Horrible updating
>>108224918lul, no.sxmo is better.Would have kept using my pinephone, but every service provider around here suddenly decided only whitelisted modem models were allowed to connect and I didn't have another (whitelisted) phone on hand I could copy the IMEI/IMSI of as a donor.
>>108224817It's a good question, I always bought Android phones because they weren't walled gardens but if this is coming to an end and they're chopping its balls off then I no longer really have a reason to buy Android anymore.
>>108226955I don't think you retards understand what a walled garden actually is. You must be apple shills, since apple shills don't know shit about technology.
>>108226964I know that on my current Android phone, which is old at this point, I don't need anyone's permission to install software. I know developers also don't need anyone's permission to develop software either, or more importantly to distribute their software via whatever means they please, including ones which are not tied to Google or the phone manufacturer in any way.According to the news I read, Google plans to disable software installs that are not signed by a developer that Google has approved of in future Android versions. In other words, Google will now be arbitrarily capable of deciding which software the user can or cannot install on an Android device running these newer / upcoming Android versions, via the roundabout way of being able to ban developers or to refuse to bless them so they can distribute their software in the first place. Of course this also means that developers will need to dox themselves to Google, which is total crap even if it doesn't impact me personally, as I don't develop or distribute Android software. If software distribution and installation are not open and free, the platform is a walled garden. This is exactly what it looks like. Feel free to correct anything wrong that I've mentioned.>You must be apple shillsIs this some sort of projection, or an ad-hominem attempt? I have not owned a single Apple device in my entire life and the only time I ever considered purchasing one is right now, after reading the news about Android recently.
iPhones better
>>108224676Evidence screwgle has not always been a gatekeeper?
>>108227154The source i used to install pirated apps
>>108224676I only use my phone to simple tasks. Everything else I do on my PC. I almost have no apps installed as it should be.
>>108224824TermuxMihonReVancedAptoideLibreTorrent
The unromantic truth is that the average person is simply an NPC. There was a time when people relished the idea of theme'ing, tweaking, digging into the programs and their technology. Now we've become a population of literal NPCs with attention span of 0.2 seconds only concerned with>Comfort>Food>Popularity >Entertainment This is why apple has such a hold on the normie population. It does what the NPCs want and nothing more. Go out to the streets and ask 10 what an operating system is, how RAM works, anything on the most basic level of technology. 9 out of 10 will have no clue. As long as they can play the latest FOTM gacha, scroll TikTok, post their dinners on Instagram, beg for attention on X, text back and forth .. they don't care about side loading, they don't care about access to the device file system, they don't care about customization. They will gladly give any corporation, that requires it, their ID. I'm not meme'ing here... When you realize how genuinely stupid the average person really is, and realize just how large of a majority they really are, you'll see there is no hope Technology is essentially dead for the "nerds" and "geeks."It's all about absolute control and profit now
>>108228211True based and real
>>108224676?it isn't
>>108227611why are you doing these things on your phone instead of a laptop or tablet
>>108224676Unless they do some developer attestation like applel does your can probably still just download android studio, build the app yourself and install it with adb. Good chance that won't require you to build the app yourself and just install it with adb. Still pretty sad tho but what can you expect from someone like google
>>108232309WC
>>108228211>stupid is when unfamiliar with what I'm familiar with>tech is when riceThe guy who oversees the construction of a skyscraper, the guy who performs hours long difficult surgery and the guy who defends you in court are all smarter than you and are "dumb normies" that use an iPhone or a stock Samsung phone. Even in tech most people that know their trade well don't waste time ricing their shit, they just use what works.
>>108226955I think some weird shit is already happening. I recall there was some Anon where it forcibly uninstalled his homemade app from his phone and cited that it was because it 'could' steal his information. So Android seems to scan whatever app you install and just decide to remove it whenever it wants for any reason it wants.
>>108224676Being cheap and easy to replace.Smartphones are shit devices you're forced to use by the modern world because they want you to carry a tracking device with you at all times.Having a "good phone" is like having a fancier leash.
>>108224824I made my own apps I want to run.
>>108232309>you shouldn't want to do thatstackoverflow is that way
>>108232941See >>108232926
>>108224824Using my phone as a general purpose computer>>108226908Using my phone as a general porpoise computer
>>108232309cuz I want one pocketable device that does absolutely everything until I get ze brain chip.
>>108232414>Even in tech most people that know their trade well don't waste time ricing their shit, they just use what works.Bingo. Ricing is for kids or people with too much time. Techs use what works and is effective."Normies" don't give a shit about ricing because they just want to use the fucking thing to get what they want. Anyone that thinks going into config files to edit shit for pretty is smarts is fucking stupid.
>>108233019Samefagging is shameful
If you aren't a competent systems programmer everything is a walled garden. Who cares.
>>108224676not getting any pussy
>>108232309>why are you doing these things on your computer instead of a computer or computer
>>108232309Who the fuck reads manga on a laptop
>>108232981I'm not sure why you're using irony poisoned buzzwords about such an idea, the hassle of having to tardwrangle multiple devices is one of the more unpleasant parts of modern computing. Around 12 years ago I was using an android tablet with a keyboard as my daily and in a lot of ways it was a preferable experience to having a desktop and a smartphone. Nobody except Samsung really makes real Android tablets anymore and Android is shittier than it used to be for general purpose computing, obviously the recent news about sideloading but even real file browsing has been broken since android 11, but if I could sanely go back to doing that I would.
>>108233256Don't forget desktop-class multitasking is impossible on samsung devices for "battery life" even when plugged in or with a battery that will last upwards of 7 hours under gaming/video loads on 75% brightness https://dontkillmyapp.com
>>108224918I have a phone running Phosh and it's surprisingly usable. Dailied it for a week but it's really held back by only supporting old phones and slow development.One-day I hope to move to it full time and be completely open source. But this would require a phone manufacturer to commit to supporting PostMarketOS on a modern device (with open source firmware ideally). Maybe something will happen with GraphineOS partnering with a manufacturer. >>108226922>No banking appsMy bank's website is great so this didn't bother me>Terrible security How so? Android is probably better though>Terrible hardware support Yes, barely any phones supported and they're all really old now>Turns cameras into shitYes, the camera on mine is basically non functional >Horrible updatingThe only issue I have is the package servers seem to be really slow, updating can take ages.
iPhones are better. If Android turns into a walled garden then why wouldn't I just buy an iPhone?
>>108233370Lol lmao lmfao ROFL ROFLMFAO
>>108232414How is sideloading apps "ricing"? You don't even understand what you are talking about crapplecuck
>>108224824Same reason it has been for me since the beginning. Blocking ads and apps that have no business accessing the internet. Ad-away and AfWall plus root are required for me to consider a phone.
>>108224676In a way it could be a good thing, along with age-limitations and internet censorship this might open up the eyes of alpha gen (which are majority phoneshitters) to the evils of proprietary systems and make them rebel and it might also finally cause Linux-based phone OS to get enough momentum.Accellerate.
>>108224888They.will take that away too
>now that its a walled garden>can still install whatever trash i can find on githubhuh???
>>108237094It's definitely coming. They can't have you playing old games for free when there's subscriptions to be signed up for and money to be made.
>>108224884>no use case for being a cuck
>>108226908Smarphones are actually computers not phones.Having a miniaturized computer is a great idea, it's the execution that sucks because unlike earlier computers smartphones were designed with burger corpo-capitalist interests in mind and not with the user interest in mind, they were meant to be surveillance and consumption devices.But it doesn't have to be this way.>>108227134Legit question, how will this even work for Chinese Android systems? Google doesn't control them as much, and you can buy those in the west too.>>108228211It's not about stupidity but about ignorance and about a difference in values, there are very high IQ people that are completely oblivious to how much corporations fuck them over, there are also people that know but they are so absorbed by the current capitalist system that they refuse to acknowledge the evil (the market knows best, etc, etc), because intelligence != knowledge != wisdomAs long as bread and circus keeps normalfags busy this will keep going on, but it's a dangerous game for corporations, all it takes is for them to get too greedy and more and more people will start noticing, like it's happening with Windows for desktop.>Technology is essentially dead for the "nerds" and "geeks."Wrong, we already basically have our parallel ecosystems and the more things will get worse the more we will have a motivation to create our own alternative systems.
>>108224676Stupid question. Will this be backported to old Android versions or is my forever-stuck-in-Android13 G82 safe?
>>108237302That's a good question. I would like to know too. I assume at some point they'll pull an Apple (again) and lock you out of going back.
>>108237302probably through a google play services update
>>108232970How do you do that? What do you use for general computing and what kind of computing do ye do?Honestly useful software could be run on old shitty Android phones but ofc its a "le consoomer machine", termux is a blessing, being able to emulate old Windows versions is a pro too, with termux and chroot running a desktop Linux distro programming is not a problem for Android.What's a problem is all the other useful apps are desktop ones requiring a linux vm, and ofc if you really want productive software open source won't work and you'd need to run a Windows vm on your phone.If only the Play store had useful apps not riddled with ads and desktop level functionality optimized enough to not blow up the damn phone.
>>108224676> no pre-installed grindrBest Android feature by far. Not like faggot OP would understand.
>>108227611Use case for revanced when I can just yt-dlp in termux and watch the video in mpv?
>>108233272>any phones supported and they're all really old now>Turns cameras into shitThat suck, hopefully the hardware support improves. Anyway how is the GPS? Do mapping apps work fine?
>>108232926I think this is because he doesn´t have a developer account, you can't just sign an app with a random email when building it, because if the email isn't on their servers, they will block the installation.This has happened for like a decade already, so it's nothing new, but they're going to increase this in newer versions.
>>108238671iShit pre-installs grindr?lol lmao lmfao ROFL ROFLMFAO
>>108239065https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Applications_by_category#GeographyEverything pretty much uses openstreetmap or cached tiles through osmscout as a backend.Pure-maps is the retard-proof option. There's a bunch of others for if you're feeling minimalist.
>>108239127It IS the phone for fags, so it would make sense to have it pre-installed.But I never owned one, so I couldn't say for sure.
>>108239165>But I never owned oneMe either. They always seemed more like toys than actual productive devices
>>108224676Samsung Galaxy phones are made by cute korean girls that look like Karina from Aespa and they kiss the phone before it gets shipped to me to bless it. iPhone is made by fat black women. Simple as.
>>108233272>My bank's website is great so this didn't bother meHow does it verify logins and transactions?When I use my bank's website I still need the app to get in and transfer any money.Although there is also a card reader, my mom uses that, it is very clunky to use.
>>108239193My Samsung was made in Vietnam.Still by a cute girl no doubt.Most iPhones are made in India.
>>108239213>made>Made in India for India>BUT SAAAR
>>108239201There's this thing called a password
>>108239065The GPS technically worked, but it wasn't usable. Took forever to get a position and was too slow for navigation. The maps app looked nice, but was slow (probably hardware being old), and it needs to improve the suggestions as I type.It's hard to beat google maps since everyone puts there business on there.
>>108239356Your password is the only thing stopping people from plundering your account?
>>108239525Research has shown that so long as your password is long enough and random enough, two-factor offers zero additional security
>>108239397>Took forever to get a positionThat's often the case when you can't download the satellite positions over the internet.The satellites also broadcast that information themselves but it is dog slow.>and was too slow for navigation.That makes no sense.Once you have a signal and the necessary data it should work fine even on 90's hardware.I had a Nokia with perfectly usable satnav.
>>108239561An OTP does offer additional security.And when it's your life savings on the line there should be a OTP even if it's just a piece of paper with a list of codes.
>>108238959You're a dumb fuck if you think trannying commands in a terminal is superior to simply tapping on a video to watch it
>>108239640>streamfags
>>108226914>I make my own appsyou won't be able to anymore without google's approval
>>108227134Google's idea of having registered and signed apps is not bad, but I would prefer this to be managed by a local national agency, rather than a private megacorporation located in the US.Someone publishing an app should register the app with the local comms agency and get a digital certificate that binds the signature to someone identifiable. So if shit happens with the app and people get scammed, there's someone to call.
I don't know where this rumour is from but yeah. Google's business model seems to have pivoted to "make it impossible not to see ads everywhere". There aren't even that many good 3rd party apps any more. You guys probably use more than me but I just have a youtube app. Most of the other third party apps are shit and worse than stock these days. I know they all suck up your data, but every country have a piece or part in the phone with some kind of backdoor so it doesn't matter anyway. Apple legally have to allow you to sideload 2-3 apps here in europe so maybe will take a little bit longer than other countries.
>>108228211It's always been that way, normies always sought convenience.It's just that now corporations are starting to feel the heat as their hype schemes are collapsing and they're trying to build walls around their ecosystems, to block any outside competition or escape from the system
Somehow I think this won't fly in the EU, they'll get lawsuits that they're trying to exercise a monopoly on which apps they allow on a phone, thus blocking competition for alternative app stores.
>>108224676>Use case for android now that its a walled garden?Cheap. For someone like me who use my phone for calls, texts, banking and ID stuff I don't wanna pay a fortune for a phone. So a €100 phone like picrel is what I buy brand new every few years. I have no interest in paying more.
>>108239525>>108239607>Life savingsThe vast majority of my money is tied up in assets (couple of houses) and stocks (pic rel). I don't keep more than $20k in my bank, and the banks fraud/theft protection is excellent. If someone did get into my account the transfers out would either be frozen or refunded. Either way, I'm not going to use any service that forces me to use a phone app.
>>108240055>I don't keep more than $20k in my bankThat's still way too high. I don't keep more than $4k in my bank.
>>108232970>Using my phone as a general porpoise computerbest comment in the thread
>>108240055Do you own those houses outright and what is the property tax on them?
>>108239561>two-factor offers zero additional securityactually cluelessIf your password gets leaked either by your own doing or a vendor not storing it properly on their side then MFA completely protects you. Having a long random password does not change this fact. there's a reason it's called MULTI-FACTOR authentication
>>108240152I like to have some spending money on tap in case something comes up. I like to buy motorcycles, fix them up and ride them for a year then flip them
>>108237176>how will this even work for Chinese Android systems? Google doesn't control them as much, and you can buy those in the west too.google services does all the app security/scanning etc chink phones in mainland china dont run with google services
The EU will fine Google into bankruptcy, finally the bureaucrats will be useful.Can't wait for all the absolute burger seethe on the 4.
>>108240474yeah they run with Poo Bear services which is basically the same thing
I will say that online discussion of android, like AMD products, is overrun by jeets and poors because it's the cheap (read: inferior) alternative. If you enjoy engaging in any discussion at all about the technology you use it's worth a little gatekeeping if only to keep out the riff raff.
If there is one thing my 30 years of internet taught me is that people always find a way to counter the system.
>>108224817I thought you could spoof credentials or some shit to side load
>>108239646why not stream something you're only going to watch once?
>>108227611Shizuku
When is Google going to fuck itself with this? Android 17?
>>108224824That's going to become more important than ever before in the next 7 years or so lmao. Literally life or death shit
Is there a way to jailbreak unlocking the bootloader on ANY android not just le pixel and old pieces of shit phones?
>>108224676Only if you use a google certified device with its preinstalled OS. Buy hardware that allows you to install a different OS that doesn't have any of these restrictions.
>>108224849what do you do with it?>>108226914damn, how long does it take to make your own app? why not find good foss? >>108227134Omg. starting with which version of android?
>>108233370As a former Samsung user THIS!!Every reason I went to Samsung in the first place is now gone. Then I watch people desperately defend them just because theyre not Apple. I might understand if they went to Google to use GrapheneOS or got a chinkphone because it has X or Y features but buying Samsung after 2020 is an absolute joke anymore. Its an iPhone with more ads and bloat baked in than any other phone.
>>108227134anon..>Impact on Sideloading: While it makes sideloading more difficult, Google plans to introduce an "advanced flow" for experienced users to bypass these restrictions, allowing them to install non-verified apps at their own risk. You are just scare mongering
>>108224824I needed it for newpipe. Old pipe is shot>>108226904>high endPrototype
>>108239962NO SIR, YOU MUST BUY FLAGSHIP, DO NOT REDEEM THE CHEAP PHONE! DO NOT REDEEM YOU BLOODY BASTARD, I'LL FUCK YOU BLOODY YOU BASTARD BITCH!
>>108240955It takes a while. >Come up with idea>Design the layout, functions, turn ideas into "sketches.">Write the code>Debug it>Test it>Change this or that >Test again>Put it to real world test for a week or two>Finalize build push it to git for building Takes some time if you want to do it right
What do you guys think about /e/OS? Is it a good alternative?https://e.foundation/e-os/
>>108241418Not clicking your bait, iFaggot
>>108241424Huh? It's supposed to be a de-Googled fork of Android.
How can unlocking the bootloader be impossible just fuck the phone with a cable and rape it
>>108241418>>108241434Refer to https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm
>>108239743There's not a single good default note taking app with GDrive and Nextcloud support right now. Not even featured in the Play Store. They all are 3rd parties.
>>108224676Use case for having a penis?
>>108239201you are a cuck. my bank tried to force this on me, i demanded to keep using my card reader
>>108224676I assume China will continue to produce phones and use unmolested AOSP builds.Not that I like it, but the bugmen will have to save us from Jewy bureaucracy yet again. >>108226953I've been off and on trying to get around the whitelist bullshit, too, but I guess """they""" scrub the internet of anything pertaining to IMEI cloning, any pointers here? I've got plenty of spare devices I can use as donors.
>>108224676OneUI
>>108241060>scare mongeringIt'll become an "integrity check" built into the Android SDK that'll be enabled by default that a developer has to specifically know and care to opt-out of that prevents the app from even running if it wasn't installed via the Good Goy method. You know, Play Integrity, but worse.
>>108242051>unmolested AOSP forks>chinese phones>looks at XiaomiYou only got one choice to pick anon
>>108242166No really if you cant unlock a bootloader on any phone what makes you think they dont own you?
>>108240614theyre not stopping sideloading theyre stopping sideloading of unsigned apps, the same as apple. if anything the eu not going hard enough against apple is what caused google to think this is an okay change to make
>>108224824>need to install wabbitemu>purged from store>install a backup copy of app via adb since app is oldIt's useful if the app is gone.
>>108224676Walled garden?
>>108237403This seems most likely from what I've seen.
>>108226914GrapheneOS?
>>108224676I spent some time actually learning the Android operating system to try to make workable an old Android TV box that I frankly didn't trust that much. A lot of the initial work was just de bloating the amount of software and side loaders that the Chinese had stuck on the thing as well as updating software like Kodi.Is there a good resource forum website or something that talks about de bloating Android operating systems? I'm realizing a lot of this stuff just comes with a lot of preloaded junk from the factory that slows it down. If you root into the device you can kill and delete a lot of the processes and software that are running.My resource was using chatGPT to walk me through the entire thing, I figure there must be a better way.
>>108243850I really don't want a Google phone to be quite honest
>>108244133lol >>>/g/spg/ and read the sticky.
>>108226922>>No banking appsuseless shit, can always have meme secondary device dedicated to that if you realy care.>>securitynice try glownigger>hardware supportfair enough, though, who cares, get something compatible>camera into shitskill issue>horrible updatingnigger you can be more up to date than with any memedroid shit.
There is none
>>108244443>Yeah bro just get two phones and put all the shit you actually need and use on one phone and put Linux on the other then walk around with the Linux phone to show how fucking BASED you are and then use the other phone when you actually need to do something You ever walk by a mirror, stop, gaze into it and think to yourself "holy fuck I AM a retard" ??
>>108232309Laptops are useless. Desktop and phone are the optimal ends of the spectrum. Tablets and laptops are awkward middlegrounds. Not portable enough to be portable, not powerful/comfortable/ergonomic to use while sitting at home.
>>108244511>put all the shit you actually needi don't use banking apps and even if i did i'd not use them more than like once every other months.i mostly use my phone for music and being able to look something up when i'm not home.phone is a near useless device.
>>108244566Ahhhh this is a Fox and Grapes cope. Very transparent and traditional, I must say. Phones are amazing and have made my life 1000x easier. You could always do some diving in the Ganges for copper and sell it for some Rupees, no? Use that money to get a real device?
>>108244618>Use that money to get a real devicethat's called a personal computerphones are shit and near useless.
>>108244668Ahh now we've moved over the impoverished cope. Lots of people, at least over here in 1st World countries (I don't know about India, I'll let you fill me in), we can afford BOTH. So we get the best of both technologies. And we can even link them together!
>>108244720>impovrishedmy personal computer is worth 7kand my phone is worth 1.5kwhat are you talking about, nothing to do with money, i just refuse to use proprietary garbage.
>>108244720>>108244761and as i said, i do use my phone, for music or quick searches when i'm not home.can be useful for pictures but if i care about pictures i'll use my mirrorless camera.
>>108244761>my personal computer is worth 7k>and my phone is worth 1.5kRaji, 7000 rupees is like $76.00 and 1500 is like $15.You're not fooling anyone.
>>108244780i was talking in dollars retard.phone is a xperia 1 VI, i didn't want to buy something without the headphone jack.my current computer i built last december, top of the line hardware.previous one was 8 year old.i live in switzerland and am french.price is that inflated in part because of the price of ram, but also because i have 1 8TB nvme and 2x 4TB in zfs mirror.also got a 4090.anyway, my point is, android is shitty as an OS, i much rather have a proper linux phone, and idgaf about muh banking apps.all i use my phone for is to listen to music when i'm not home, do a quick search here and there and maybe post something on 4chan when i'm on the shitter.phones are not productivity devices, a computer is.there is the occasional picture i may take and use of the map when i'm going somewhere, but i could totaly live without it, i rather lose my phone than computer.also post hands before shit talking, i've proven more than once that i'm white on this board.
>>108244826>>108244780also for the records, those are CHF, 1chf being about 1.3 dollars.
>>108244826>live in switzerland and am frenchNice try, Raji. No one is falling for that..>Post while on the shitterYou mean Main Street?>Posts screen cap of dream computer, he doesn't actually own.>Claims to have spent $1500 for a headphone jack while simultaneously stating phones are useless.Look, Raji... It sucks being poor in New Deli, I know (well actually, I don't), but you're going to have to deal with the fact you'll never have a 5090, or an S26U. Instead of fox and grapes posting, you should be happy with your 1996 386 machine and your Redmi Note 14. It's true you can never be white or live in a first world country, at least, instead of putting your energy in larping and lying on 4Chanz, put that energy to work! Plenty of call centers in your area, I'm sure. You could also learn to code and change your last name to Patel eventually.
>>108242051I only know that Pixel 5 can change IMEI. Is that useful to you?
I'm using my mom's old iPhoon right now because I ACK-ed my real phone. It sucks. No Syncthing. No NewPipe. No Tor. No ByeDPI. No Termux. No Ghost Commader and the like. File managers suck. File management sucks in general. I pretty much have to use SMB to transfer files over the network and it sucks ass. They really don't want you to have files, even more so than Jeetdroid. iPhoon just wants you to be an NPC that uses the babby apps that store their shit in the cloud. Meanwhile I care about data ownership. Not even schizo but just practical reasons.
>>108244950>blah blah blah you are brownpost hands.>$1500 for a headphone jack while simultaneously stating phones are uselessi literaly told you that music is one of the only uses i have out of my phone, so yes, i paid the extra to have the headphone jack.reason being, i can afford it, in switzerland 1.5k is fucking nothing.now do you also want a picture or my PC faggot ?
>French retard - 0>Troll - 3Many such cases
>>108245030just admit that you are brown and that you have no comebacks.
>>108224676Walled Gardens are Superior. They are What the Market Wants. If You don't Like It then Create Your Own. Take a Risk. Start a Business. Succeed.
>>108245041Yeah. People don't realize economy is not zero sum. Just disrupt that megacorp that's hellbent on defending its market share. Easy.
>>108245041When the will of the market doesn't align with the will of the consumers and there is no correction, it's a sign that it's not a free market.Consumers hate big tech, they are tired of the tiranny of tech billionares, the people want freedom, either you join the revolution or you are supporting the tech oppressors.Lolbertarians lost.
>>108245083>Consumers hate big tech, they are tired of the tiranny of tech billionares, the people want freedomNo they don't. They want comfort, food, and entertainment... That's all. They don't care that apps will soon require a photo ID to use. They don't care that everything they do will become cloud based with a subscription. As long as they can "scroll TikTok," they don't a flying fuck.>hate big tech, they are tired of the tiranny of tech billionaresThat may be you, but you are in a tiny tiny minority. The majority of the world's population are literal NPCs.
