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We Don't Bend The Knee Edition

Discussion of Free and Open Source Diffusion Models

Prev: >>108254894

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneo
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>Z
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo

>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://thetacursed.github.io/Anima-Style-Explorer/

>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2

>LTX-2
https://huggingface.co/Lightricks/LTX-2

>Wan
https://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Base
https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>Illustrious
https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/r/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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>>108257308
>We Don't Bend The Knee Edition
kek, based
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There's anything left to be hyped about?
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>>108257397
Qwen image 2.0 and Z-image edit I guess
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What kind of retarded question is that
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Blessed thread of frenship
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>>108257404
and anima!!
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>>108257404
and wan 2.6 coming to local, and the seedance leak which is real just trust the plan, and the comfy grant which kekstone will receive any day now!!
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>>108257500
let's not forget the jews open sourcing LTX3 that'll be as good as Seedance 2.0, trust the plan!!
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>>108257397
unironically anima + addons (controlnets, etc)
Imagine being the sole category still stuck in SDXL
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>>108257514
if it's not an edit model I won't be hyped
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frogposter opinions dont matter
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>>108257308
Shit collage.
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>>108257619
true
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Everyone's feelings matter
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>>108257619
tons of zit slop in previous
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Anon leak ded wife LoRA. It's important
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I spend so much time proompting my armpits are starting to stink from friction, any tips?
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>>108257725
>mfw
gotta gatch them all boy
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>>108257656
Better slop than hideous abomination.
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/dedgen/
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>>108257772
unique abominations are more interesting than the slop that looks like every other slop anonie
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>>108257819
you lost
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>>108257836
you know it's true
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>>108257827
they are not
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>>108257397
no.
this general got suffocated by two autistic faggots
go do literally anything else with your time than engaging with this sad, sad general, and it would easily be a more valuable use of your time
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>>108257308
Thank you for baking this thread, anon
>>108257419
Thank you for blessing this thread, anon
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>>108257861
civitai is more your speed then kek
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>>108257891
proof?
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>>108257891
Civitai is a model platform and image generator and not an image board, retard.
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>>108257909
yeah
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>>108257933
how does it feel to be wrong
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>>108257979
ask your mirror
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>>108257991
mirrors can't talk back retard
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>>108257997
How do you know
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>>108258013
>>108257991
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holy slop
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>>108258017
>>108257979
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>>108258034
>t. nogen
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>>108258048
>complaining about nogens
>>108235328
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>>108258052
holy slop
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>saas can generate perfect game-ready spritesheets off a single reference image
local is so fucking outdated...
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>>108258066
>local is so fucking outdated...
especially with video models, seedance 2.0 is destroying everything, even holywood is scared lol
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>>108258070
>seedance 2.0 is destroying everything
it's not
>>108257145
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>>108258066
Show the saas that can generate degen
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>>108258099
>it got cucked before releasing the public API
lmao, fucking yellow cucks
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>>108258100
NovelAI runs circles around local, including anima. And their model is practically a year old.
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>>108258135
>anime
ew
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>queue the FUD
yaaawwwn
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>>108258135
>>108257909
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https://xcancel.com/laszlogaal_/status/2027341250886811677#m
>old films will be restaured to 16:9, with colors and more fps
SIGN ME IN
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ComfyUI do I need to /(series/) in SDXL? Or this is only an A111 thingy
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>>108258191
Very nice restoration. specially adding full modern sky scrappers and cars for maximum REMASTERED vibes. :fire:
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>>108257819
/adt/ can rot i will never post in your shithole
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>>108258234
the modern sky scrappers identify as old sky scrappers, don't be a bigot anon :(
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>>108258193
depends what the individual checkpoint you're currently using was trained on.
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>>108258191
>colorized old films did not exist for decades already.
Go home Xi you're drunk.
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>>108257819
>One such tactic would aime at gradually making these boards less interesting for their users
that's why they paid schizos to shit this place?
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>>108257981
>>108257990
>>108258001
>>108258014
You did the same in /edg/, /adt/ raider, at least change your trick

>>108258256
It's /adt/ they did the %100 same with /edg/ in january
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>Training ACEStep LoRA on pure kino bangers

Listen to a few here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-eE30Vgs7U&list=OLAK5uy_miYOLDtkeEkntU87XhJ4-f4xRYuY16wOE&index=11

This is gonna be sick bros. Has ACEStep made you discover new artists? It's so fun. Discovered them during my bid to train a Kawaii metal LoRA similar to what Udio does so well.
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>>108258263
They're trying to turn /ldg/ into the graveyard this /adt/ schizos.
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Wait, you're telling me the /adt/ ghost town crew got bored of talking to themselves and decided to raid us?
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>>108258277
>the quality is worse than udio in 2024
grim
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>>108258191
>SIGN ME IN
All nice and dandy until you get pic rel which they just started rolling out per another thread, hence the model is completely useless.
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What is /adt/ endgame? Do they want to revive SD 1.5? Are they lonely and want to see other general other preosh like their own dead thread?
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>>108258305
>worked hard to finally make a really great model
>all of this just to make it completly useless by cucking it
why??? it's so fucking sad, I would hate being an engineer in those companies, all my work reduced to nothing because of some HR too scared to face the anti-AI twitter trannies
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>>108258300
With a LoRA it becomes Udio tier though. Only thing is out of the box, the voices are not that natural unless you use SFT. But then if you use SFT instead of Turbo then the sound quality and creativity goes down a bit.
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>>108258026
>>108258014
>>108258001
oh god not again, remember last january? when /adt/ got mad at /edg/ and it suddenly became 2022 with SD 1.5 gens because nobody posted in /adt/? why does /adt/ want the same fate for us?
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come up with some new trolls anon please
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>>108258135
I will never understand the secret sauce behind NovelAI. it's just so easy to make stuff and it recognizes every mainstream character. the characters that it doesn't recognize, you can get pretty close with only a few reference images.

The amount of effort you have to put into local with impainting, controlnets, and further editing takes 10 times longer to get the same results of a single prompt from novel AI.
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>https://rentry.org/debo
>https://rentry.org/animanon
Thank you for maintaining the thread quality. It is ever important to include these articles written by our avatarfren Catjak aka Ran. In fact, it's so important I think we should include them at the beginning too.
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fuck jannis haha zoopeds forever

>>108257397
>There's anything left to be hyped about?
Bro AGI is here go distract yourself generating any software or mods to software you want. Claude Code or GLM-5 whatever you want nigggaaaaa

>>108257875
>this general got suffocated by two autistic faggots
No it just needs the audio+video sora at home to come out in the summer and then this general has a purpose once again.

>>108258277
I'm just happy to see you're having fun anon. More anons need to have fun with models or try out different modalities if they're bored of their current one
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>>108258326
>to face the anti-AI twitter trannies
It was probably a call by the highest levels of command at the company (E.G. executive team) following advice by their legal team, as they have a presence in the U.S and kikes seethed enough that Netflix, Disney etc.. initiated a ton of lawsuits.
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>>108259170
>I will never understand the secret sauce behind NovelAI
The secret sauce is training a model from scratch, on every booru image you can possibly get your hands on, for literally 1000+ epochs.

The model is so overtrained it's actually a weakness. It has nearly pixel-perfect memorized specific booru images. You can prompt it with the full list of tags from some danbooru image and get the model to regurgitate almost the exact image. Very poor seed diversity.
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>>108259262
Why does everyone train on Danbooru and not scrape pixiv? you would get a far bigger variety of fetishes and art styles scraping pixiv. sure, there's garbage on pixiv, but what if you want a garbage art style.
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>>108259211
total chinese victory
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>>108259282
because pixiv images have 6 tags max, while danbooru images can have hundreds. it was just a massive coincidence that the most detailed image-caption pair database of all time happened to be for anime/furry porn.
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>>108259282
try scraping danbooru, and then try scraping pixiv, and you will quickly see why.
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>>108258305
why did the chinks cuck out? wtf did the kikes do to threaten the chinks to submission? 2026 is really starting to look grim with censorship of ai models. Seedance 2.0 is already nurtured to shit before anyone outside preview insiders could get a taste of the model.
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>>108259305
actually they can have up to 10 tags iirc. Also that's irrelevant when you can use really good captioners for SFW and risque stuff (Gemini) and mediocre local captioners for NSFW (qwen/abliterated/joycaption)
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>>108259298
>total chinese victory
that's the opposite, they bent the knee to (((hollywood))) :(
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So, have you tried Anima with CLIP?
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>>108259331
>CLIP
Literal regression
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>>108259313
>wtf did the kikes do to threaten the chinks to submission?
yeah I'm also surprised, you'd think Xi Jinping had more balls to tell them to fuck off, he's not even scared of Trump, jewlywood is literally more scary than the government of the US lmao
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>>108259314
>thinking joycaption is a good substitute for danbooru tags
lol i can tell you're a chromakek, clearly you've only engaged with tags on a surface level for 3dpd slop
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>>108259181
agi? you're retarded
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>>108259313
your inferiority complex is showing
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>>108259336
that node runs CLIP alongside Qwen as a booster of sorts, not instead of Qwen
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>>108259557
lord i need to work on my prompt skills
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>>108259557
how to upscale
is this with adetailer
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I miss widower gen
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>>108259606
>adetailer
no lol
same way as every model ever friend
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and the two BasicSchedulers were just this, 0.5 for the hi-res denoise second pass obvously
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>>108259717
oh and if you want to use Flux2Scheduler, you can split the sigmas for the second pass like this to get a lower strength (SplitSigmasDenoise is a stock comfy node)
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>>108259567
>boost model with shittier encoder
What
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>>108258135
>>108259170
I'll help you understand their secret sauce. It's quite simple if you've been around since early diffusion models. First, you need to understand that SD is a dogshit model, especially SD 1.5, yet people have been able to do excellent things with it. Next, you must understand that the only way NoobAI is so good on SDXL, is because the model was essentially overbaked to produce only that type of output. It's easier to see if you go back to SD 1.5, every model that you saw there was essentially just an overbaked shitmix. Because tiny models are easy to overbake. And that's the recipe behind NovelAI. First, remember the news that they bought a bunch of GPUs? What they did was perform experiments, and determined what size of dataset fits into a single SDXL-sized model when you overbake it (similar to Noob). That is, how many artists does it remember? So what they do is that they take a small model, train it like SDXL, let's call it the base (master) model. Then, based on this same base model, they take a bunch of models, train a subset of their dataset on each model, then serve an API that can instantly detect what type of model you need based on the artists you called, and if you call a mixture of models, instead of inferencing both, you inference a LoRA that is compatible with the base model, so everyone is happy, and that's how they're able to get every Danbooru artist in existence seamlessly with a smaller and less capable model. This is probably similar to what MJ does with artists under the hood. In short, there's nothing special about what they do, they've come up with nothing novel, and they simply have much more compute and serve many more models simultaneously, while taking care of that for you.
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>>108259798
this babble is already disproven by anima being smaller than sdxl yet still knowing just as many artists. (https://thetacursed.github.io/Anima-Style-Explorer/) being able to learn thousands of artist tags isn't a huge challenge unless you're a retarded furry who intentionally sabotages your own finetune.
they have no need to train hundreds of micro models, that shit is a complete headache for cloud inference because you need to load and unload shit constantly and also perform 'prompt scanning' to determine which models to use.
the novelai model is not special outside of their regional latent trick. there is no magic secret, they just have lots of GPUs so they can train the model longer and afford a fuckup or two. i think local just forgot what a proper finetune looks like after dealing with nothing but kekstone for over a year now.
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>>108259798
I don't know how true this is, but that actually makes the most sense and why even when NAI have "leaked" their models, it's still never as good as NovelAI itself. they probably know no local shit can fully replicate what they do, so they don't feel threatened by their own models leaking or people making stuff that tries to mimic their model. the answer is just resources. they have a lot of resources and smart algorithms that can detect exactly which amalgamation of models and loras best fit your prompt. and using a single model locally will just never replicate that. you'll have to do a lot more work to get the same clean and high-adherence output.

I've watched people on Pixiv show speed-runs of them impainting the shit out of their images to get them exactly the way they want them. there's just no easy way to prompt for shit you want without extra effort.
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>>108259313
Kikes didn't have to do much. Bytedance is registered and still does business in America, and if it wants to continue to operate (and not get a complete rugpull by Trump) they have to abide by American laws.
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>>108259577
Aim higher
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>>108259751
It's a similar idea to how CLIPs were used alongside T5 in some models I guess
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>>108259557
4B version on the same seed
pretty similar but added green tips on her boots too lol
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>>108259726
>>108259717
>>108259713
i see thanks
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>>108259853
How many artists it knows varies by chosen architecture, but regardless of which they choose, it is likely something like this. We haven't seen Anima's potential yet, but say a large scale tune falls short by around 5-10k artists, they can still tune another one.
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>>108257308
alternate fagollage
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>>108259945
>>108259955
thicc
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whats with the /sdg/ spam?
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>>108257513
I thought the jews were busy using AI to control nukes
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>>108260260
seriously. those guys are so annoying
you and I are the only real posters left
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when did local start falling off so hard?
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>implying its not cyclical
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time is flat
and endlessly
surprising
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tfw pondering
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>>108260548
give him demon horns
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>>108260644
nyo
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>>108260651
do it
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Looks like the sdjeets escaped containment
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>>108260548
You know you have to be looking into the orb to ponder it
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come home then
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bearcat!
https://suno.com/s/imEKrWMhIRgZtk2m
https://youtu.be/72yr9Nswbhk
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>>108260896
>sam stole dario's lunch
kino
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>>108260896
American propaganda will now use AI, amazing.
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>>108260896
>now remove the safety or no more trillions
>ez
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>>108260903
>hegseth: disable your ai safety or we'll cancel your contract
>anthropic: no, thats fucked up
>openai: omg we hate safety pick us pick us
how does this improve you life?
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>>108260896
I get it but I'm not laughing
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>safety
lmao

safe for whom?
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Memory management seems back to normalish for me with ComfyUI 0.15.1 and AMD Adrenalin 27.2.2. --disable-smart-memory is not longer required for me to avoid maxing RAM/VRAM during VAE decode and freezing Windows. The default mode seems more prone to running models partially-unloaded though, so I might still slightly prefer --disable-smart-memory for SDXL.
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>>108261013
trans and queer BIPOC folx
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>>108261181
I don't know, on linux with latest comfy it still says 6gb of vram available during ltx2 loading and genning, but nvtop says all 12gb are being used. Where the fuck the rest 5gb go then?
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My guess is comfy deliberately slows down or does not optimize so people would go for cloud.
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>>108259119
nice
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>>108261292
I see, this is today's FUD. Got any more fud takes?
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>>108261292
This
Look at this, they already know their problem but they actively and deliberately leave it like that because it's a way to push people to the cloud.
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>>108260896
This is fucked up, i can't ERP with cunny but is ok for them to use it for war
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>>108261376
Of course. You don't matter after all.
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>>108261367
Why do you think this is fud?
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>>108261368
that they can't can't account for every weenie's individual skill issue?
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>>108258244
>>108258263
>>108258294
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>>108258350
you are such a worthless subhuman retard, JUlien
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>>108261368
> optimized for different use cases
Such as?
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>>108261448
stop derailing the thread with your stupid drama please
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>>108261482
stop existing, you worthless shitstain
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>>108255714
Any updates on this?
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>>108261448
Anon, Julien and Catjack already realized themselves in /ldg/cord that /adt/ schizos are impersonating them here, playing both sides.
Sorry your general failed, maybe put that energy into /adt/ instead.
Go back, please >>108242864
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>he begged the archive to remove it
Oh, the subhuman failure is TERRIFIED
>>108261665
What do you think Nik will think of the pics?
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>>108261665
Whatever you say trani
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>>108261669
what was the archive link?
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>the image is a medium close-up
>the image is a medium close-up
>the image is a medium close-up
No I don't think it is.
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>guys it wasn't me, catjak, impersonating ani
>it was /adt/!
k retard
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>>108261677
it's not hard to find, it was only removed from desu
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>>108261697
No one would ever want to impersonate something as utterly repulsive and subhuman as you
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>>108261665
catjak is a two-faced confrontational and constantly angry faggot. i wouldn't trust a single word he says. i do believe ani is not a part of this, it's just not in his character to shitpost like this. he doesn't like the off-topic links in the op but well, nobody does
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>>108261713
Tranussytudio status?
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>n*gbo is back from the unsuccessful jobhunt
explains the thread shittery the last couple of days
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>>108261713
kys
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>>108261677
Here you go
Saved it as an image in case the cockroach somehow scrubs it from all archives
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>mfw
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Is there a thread on 4chan for discussing image diffusion and open source models? I thought this was the thread but apparently not. Evidently this thread is for discussing interpersonal conflicts between some people on discord(?) or something, I dunno.
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>>108262072
this wouldn't be possible without you and your absolute subhumanity, Julien
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>>108262087
What?
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is there any way in forge neo to get a prompt back from an image? like you roll the gatcha, stars align and you get the perfect picture, ask the model what it thinks the prompt was? i remember there was a way back in the auto1111 days
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>>108262195
png metadata viewer
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>>108262216
thanks but i mean like
>roll 100 times
>only 5 results are good
>want to improve prompt
>ask the model what it thinks the prompt was on said 5 good pictures
i think there was a way in auto
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>>108262227
clip or booru interrogate. maybe neo removed that feature
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>>108262242
ah that was it, thanks, think its not an option anymore in forge neo but i will look into it
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>>108262253
you can use the civitai lora trainer to auto caption or auto tag whatever images, no need to actually train a lora or spend buzz
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>>108261713
>he doesn't like the off-topic links in the op but well, nobody does
and yet, when people had the choice between a thread with the rentries, and a thread without, NO ONE posted gens in the thread without rentries, curious, isn't it?
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108220078
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>>108262072
come visit /sdg/
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>>108262072
>>108257819
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NVIDIA + University of Michigan paper on TC-LoRa, basically a better and cheaper (fewer parameters to train) version of controlnet, it was benchmarked on Cosmos-Predict1, which is the previous version of the model anima was trained on (Cosmos-Predict2)
https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.09561
I'm daydreaming about anima so bad ToT
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Did a image of Nausicaa, honestly, it's hilarious how much ZiT btfo's actual cosplay in texture and realism.
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>>108262424
Hey! In case you forgot: You're still not welcome here thread schizo
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>>108262507
call the cops
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>>108262507
No that’s debo you’re replying to. You must be talking about the schizo avatarfag known as ran.
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>n*gbo starting shit again
Can't have peace i guess
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>>108262630
>>108257819
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>>108262684
>debo and ani got paid by the CIA to ruin generals on 4chan
that can explain why they're able to buy all those proxies, I'm noooticing
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mfw
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