>>108286731
Just break it, not a big deal

>>108286731
I hate children.

Just select "Country: India" during OS installation - there will be no age verification then.

i am going to shitpost using this so fucking hard lmfao, brazilians are the worst posters on 4chan by far
reminder they all got geoip banned from catbox for uploading CSAM

>>108286731
Why can't children cause problems to their parents and leave other men alone

Surely this means they will stop making websites collect your ID before accessing them, right?
right?

>>108286731
Why the fuck does macaco jungle country have this shit?
I thought you guys have post first world enlightenment politics
This shit is gay, did ZOG coup you?

>>108286795
Actual good idea saaars

I was thinking Hong Kong (English)

>>108286731
return to your imageboard, monkey

>>108286731
I hope software does not accommodate them and they get shut off from the internet and outside software.

>>108287269
they dont have any left, they mostly got banned for CSAM spam or they're leftists banned from 1500chan

what the fuck they got to braxil too? let me guess, do it or get sanctioned

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>>108287129
"educated" brazilians, a set which naturally includes politicians, journalists and our supreme court (the good people that act as the de facto sovereigns of this shithole), compete against eachother to see which can imitate outsiders on every metric except actually fixing shit like public transport and sanitation or cracking down on organized crime
thus you see little displays like that.
in fact we have a term for this, its Belindia (taxes, laws and welfare design fit for Belgium, actual public policy implementation mirroring India)
this has been more or less the case since forever but it has gotten worse with social media since any journo or college kid with a smartphone can open twitter and read (to some limited degree) all that fun drama arising from american politics, which of course they procede to reproduce down here, parroting american talking points and poorly translating slogans and what have you
basically our entire mainstream view on racial tensions as of now has been grafted from american 60s civil rights movemets, Floyd riots and twitter discourse, all of which have little to do with how racial conflicts and compromises historically evolved down here
same with trannies btw, even though 90% of the population have no idea on what a "transgender" person is
we are in hell.

>>108286770
version 1 they ask your age
version 2 they issue a digital ID certificate, and if you don't use it you don't use the internet

>>108287553
>and if you don't use it you don't use the internet
Ok.
>*breaks lock; grabs dick*
What now, Brazilian?

>>108287540
i saw you arrested an argie woman for calling someone a monkey

>>108286731
You can't tell me they all independently came to this same conclusion. There's some international collusion going on right now and their goal is clear: total surveillance.

>>108286731
EVROPA vill ztay strong

>>108287813
i wouldnt doubt it ive tried to stay out of the loop for the reasons mentioned. why bother

>>108286731
Sad. Such a based country otherwise, gave us Lua and makes Americans, ChileANOs and Venecos seethe

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how does this affect me personally?

So... suddenly loads of places are pushing verification on operating systems at the same time?
Is Peter Theil lobbying all this shit or something.

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>>108287899
you're not portugese or med joao you're a pardo

>>108287899
no online anonymity soon

>>108287899
The stuff is in the OS now.
Other governments (yours) will see this and ask themselves: Why not use it? We need mass sur- to protect da chilluns

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>>108287827
That's the plan.

>>108287899
It will affect everyone sooner or later because every government on the planet now realized that nobody gives a shit, and they can completely fuck over every serf with zero repercussions.

>>108287910
Yes.

>>108287945
And this.

Archive everything while you still can. Tor/I2P will still be an option, temporarily, until it becomes mainstream.

>>108287553
>tell internet I'm not brazillian
>it works, what a miracle

>>108288125
You'll have to provide it a valid digital ID certificate

>>108287945
>anonymity
did we ever get any on the clear? your ISP knows everything, but its a good thing they dont care about what you do here.
>>108288006
>age verification in the OS
how far the US and the EU went with this so far? i havent followed. it doesnt seem that viable desu, for with all their efforts up until now, we only got more "confirm your age to proceed" in more sites.
are we heading up "take a selfie with your ID" to fire up your browser?
>>108288132
>Art. 13. The data collected for age verification of children and adolescents may only be used for that purpose, and its processing for any other purpose is prohibited.
i would like to not trust anything with my ID or personal data, but jewgle and the rest do follow the rules to make cash here.
on another note, is that fear logical? for our government already uses american infrastructure to process most data of its citizens.
>>108288025
its all about convenience for most people, we whom do care a bit beyond that will be pushed further to the web corner.

>>108286731
Really weird coincidence how all countries decided to implement ID systems at the same time

What is the monkey shithole gonna do? Brazil is the India of the western hemisphere

>>108286731
>passed last year
>Only 2 weeks away before it goes into effect
>Ubuntu just announced that they will comply with California's OS age-surveillance law
Canonical was already preparing Ubuntu for age-surveillance well before the California bill was approved. It's all one big theather for the niggercattle isn't it?

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Well, what can I as an ignoramus Brazilian do to circumvent it?
Shitpost on 4chan through PlayStation 2 Linux?

>>108286731
they can't even enforce anti-piracy laws, even non-tech monkeys will patch the shit and just sell it wherever they sell those shitty homemade ps2 games.

>>108286731
who gives a fuck?
no country has an extradition treaty with brazil.

>>108286731
>applies to any information technology product or service directed at children and adolescents in the country or likely to be accessed by them
Server OSes are not directed at or likely to be accessed by them.

>>108287540
>Belindia
Never heard this shit before.

t. macaco

>>108287899
It's a test run. They'll see how people will fight back and prepare accordingly before doing it over there.

>>108288511
come on now
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bel%C3%ADndia
it's been used for half a century already

>>108288576
Thanks, good to know. Never heard of it.

>>108286731
even the latinx are doing this shit it's so fucking over for the internet and the human soul

>>108287540
>all that fun drama arising from american politics, which of course they procede to reproduce down here, parroting american talking points and poorly translating slogans and what have you
I don't know if you foreigners are aware but Americans do this all the time with European politics.

>>108287910
Every country on earth wants to have as much control as possible over their citizens. it was just incredibly unpopular to try and do that for a while, but once a couple countries go ahead and do it, every other country follows.

>>108288622
>latinx
Please for the love of God, please stop this faggotry.

>>108288843
sorry i just find it funny

>>108288854
That's fine then, go on.

>>108286731
Those animals only understand violence, kill enough macacos and they will stop doing stupid commie shit like that.

>>108287910
Jews are panicking over the reaction to the Gaza Genocide and realizing most young people who grew up on the Internet instead of the Television hate Israel. So they're locking down the Internet using regulatory overhead to kill small sites paired with the end of anonymity to apply chilling effects.

The future of the Internet is basically just an interactive television where you're permitted to praise the jews and nothing else.

>>108288801
I am aware of some examples you could pick for the first world (see https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/political-backflow-from-europe) but I specifically picked Brazil because
1. thread theme
2. it's what I'm familiar with on a visceral level from living down here
3. examples in Brazil can be specially egregious since we have basically no identity, and if you need an example of that, look no further than brazilian art history (I am kidding, do not bother, but if you must, the bulk of effort has been spent in coming up with some unique, quintessentially brazilian visual language, but having not much to show for it after centuries of trial... the art is sometimes respectable, but near always derivative)

>>108286731
>Nothing to hide, nothing to fear
I don't see the issue here. This only affects children and criminals. Not my problem desu.

>>108287827
meds now

>>108286731
>age verification
just call it mandatory spyware
>for operating systems
spoofable
>inb4 TPM+secure boot
then you're confirming that it's a power grab
reminder that if you don't control the root of trust of your computer, your computer owns you

>>108291033
sure, it's not your problem, until your computer starts failing captchas, your bank freezes your account, you become unable to chat with anyone online, you can't watch anything flagged as "adult content" (i.e. anything containing swear words, protests, medical advice and information on medicines and their side-effects, information about surgical treatments (nsfw images = adult)), etc.

This is a good thing and I'm happy California and other states are starting to push it here too, a computer is way more dangerous than a bank account, it only makes sense.

>>108291366
why are you jewish

>>108291366
>a computer is way more dangerous than a bank account
You're trolling but this is literally true.
You can beat someone over the head with a computer, but can't do that with a bank account.
Of course, the money in a bank account could be used in harmful ways, just like the software in a computer can be, but that's (((they))) need control over both of those.

>>108286863
children arent causing shit
its the government that is using them as excuse
i was once a kid and i accessed adult content and i turned out just fine

>>108291625
>i turned out just fine
not one of us did since we're here
but in any case the gov excuse should fail since this is for parents to control

>>108291686
What is turning out fine, though? I doubt Trump used 4chan in his youth, yet he still became a PDF. Is that what turning out fine means? Or is it when you believe AI is needed to fight the Anti-Christ like Thiel?

>>108291686
>not one of us did since we're here

i dissagre, in fact, i assert exactly the opposite

>>108291727
survivorship bias

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>>108287813
my dad got sued for calling a student a macaco. In a biology class.

>>108291686
>not one of us did since we're here
Do not project misery onto others

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>>108286731
>Live in a primary third-world shithole
>Get used as a social guinea pig for the first-world dystopias
Unlucky, should have been born in a shittier third-world shithole that the kikes ignore.

>>108291830
>projection this projection that
lighten up 4chan man

>>108291709
why are you even on /g/ if you fail so hard at predicate logic
i didn't say everyone outside of 4chan turns out alright
i jokingly said no one in 4chan turned out alright, since this is one of the autist corners (although obviously there are more autistic places to be)
you dont have to censor "pedophile" by the way

>>108291942
Why are you so upset?

>>108291895
They are starting with regions where it's more difficult to accomplish.
In communist europe it would take 2-3 days to push the necessary software updates and boom you can no longer use the internet without showing id because most of the infrastructure is already in place.

>>108291988
Except the goal is to control Europe and they wont risk anything too hasty that causes the retards to awaken prematurely.
No one gives a shit if macacoland has unrest because it will never result in anything so long as the United States of Israel persists.

If the shitholes accept it, it starts to be normalized in the minds of the zogcattle.

>>108291943
i am? thats news to me
if anything im quite patient with internet randos who misunderstand everything

>>108292082
Now you are being rude.

>>108291338
None of those things are my problem you tard. I will happily put my info a pc. I'm not a child or a criminal. Even without an ID online none of that shit is my problem. Only problem I have online is dipshit children like you shitting up 4chan. Bring on online IDs and good riddance to you kiddo.

All digital methods are pretty garbage in terms of security in third world shitholes so I'm expecting plenty of data breaches. To protect the children, of course.

>>108292111
>I'm expecting plenty of data breaches.
OS manufacturers can make you show your face and ID card to your device's camera and their cloud AI will check it against a government database. The government API will be IP whitelisted so only the tech giants can access it (read only). Once the OS has verified your ID, it will store a digital copy of that in the TPM chip. No further connection to the government servers needs to be made, and no personal details ever needs to be shared with any site or app, other than whether you are over the necessary age. The TPM can provide a cryptographic proof of that without leaking the underlying keys or source data.

I refuse to believe there is going to be any kind of realistic mass effort to constantly validate operating systems and ID.
What is going to happen is the sheer volume of data will make it nigh impossible for anyone to actually validate any of this and the retarded AI systems are going to accept just about anything square shaped with text on it as an ID.

Also, isn't it easier than ever to make a photorealistic realtime fake face with AI? I'm like 100% sure its going to be childs play to get around this shit no matter how they try it.

>>108292157
as long as you dont use illegal software like an unapproved Linux

>>108292094
youre right actually
sorry about that

>>108292163
>Also, isn't it easier than ever to make a photorealistic realtime fake face with AI?
It's a little too expensive or requires too much technical skill for most users right now. By the time the costs come down, there will be wide adoption of C2PA which will allow consumers of video to check the TPM signatures of the specific device which recorded the raw pixels.

>>108292163
it's all about
>force appstore model down everyone's throat
>"anti-tampering" (DRM and copy protection by any other name)
>(((remote attestation)))
>running your ID through government watchlists looking for signs of "radicalization" (basically, anything the government doesn't like)
>lining information brokers' pockets

>>108292212
I hope some crazy bastard comes up with a cheap way to dump TPM keys and rip the kikes a new asshole

>>108286731
Brazil... the country that can't even get his suburbs under control.
I asked a friend in brazil, he told me that there are a shitton of paper laws in brazil, he isn't worried whatsoever.

>>108292157
>database breaches don't exist (as long as you pay the good tech guys™ like Google to store your data)
>bad actors inside the system are a myth

>>108292157
>store someone's picture
>in the tpm chip
spoken like a true techlet
I fucking hate you retarded kikes so much

What a mess.
Is resorting to cyber crime really the only option left?

>>108292429
which means they'll selectively enforce shit when someone opposes the govt

>>108292571
You need to actively draft legislation to criminalize these attacks on freedom
and gain public support for this.
In the past, barely any country had legal frameworks holding political factions criminally liable when they draft such laws. This is changing nowadays.
> What about you?
I do.

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>>108292402
>cheap way to dump TPM keys
That's what they don't tell you about C2PA and similar systems (like Passkeys / FIDO2). If someone manages to crack the key from one type of device, then relying parties are obligated to treat all devices with that make and model to be compromised, effectively bricking the hardware of everyone else who bought one. Except in practice some manufacturers will be (((too big to fail))) so they will continue to be trusted, despite the private keys being leaked. But don't worry, this problem can be mitigated by giving up more of your privacy (picrel).

>>108286731
If this means fewer huehues on the Internet, this is a step in the right direction

>>108292550
I had to skip a lot of steps because people here don't have the attention span or IQ for the full architecture documentation. Yes, the actual pixel data won't be stored onboard the chip, it will be stored in a partition that is encrypted with a key that is stored in the TPM chip.

>>108286731
>The penalty, per failure to comply, is R$50 million (roughly $9.5 Million USD) per infraction
actually delusional

>>108292835
>Microsoft gets sued for a Brazilian dollars

What if I just pirate windows? That's what I've been doing as a brazilian for almost 30 years

>>108293054
It's an api for others to use. If verification cannot be done then you'll most likely be flagged as a child by whatever service you want to use, for now. In hindsight this sounds like an ideal system for actual child predators to abuse, but whatever.

>>108293054
30 years ago, Microsoft couldn't punish users that fail TPM checks. Now with Windows 11 making it a requirement, many countries will be able to outlaw devices which don't have them. Maybe Brazil will get a few extra years before being lobbied into passing such a strict law, but don't be surprised if machines without TPMs only get access to half the internet or something next year.

>>108286770
Incoming: another push of TPM and adjacent shit

>>108286731
Feijoada
Zogged as the politicians may be, one thing I can commend them on is how deep down they know this won't change shit. At the surface they are bending the knee to their globalist masters, but in reality this will be a paper law that will never see practical application, just like 90% of the existing ones. At worst this will be a porn site tier "I am over 18 years old" checkbox

>>108293725
yeah, besides, I bet someone somewhere will eventually find a way to bypass it, at least on Lincucks

this change will not be kernel level right?

>>108286731
why is like, every fucking nation, doing this shit?
I'm starting to believe in the conspiracy theories about ZOG and shit. this is utterly insane.

>>108286731
>>108286731
>>108286731
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?????????????????????????????????????
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE??????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>108293725
>in reality this will be a paper law that will never see practical application
>>108292583

>>108293900
The punishment for non compliance is applied to companies who don't abide to the changes, not to citizens, as far as I can tell. Besides, the government does this all the time, they don't need one more law. Hell, here they don't even need any laws at all, it just takes is some supreme judge pulling an "interpretation" of the constitution out of his ass.

>>108293972
ok but google and apple will implement this and it will apply to every new phone sold. if you try to import a non compliant phone they will force mobile networks to block them.

>>108294056
>non compliant phone

is_user_underage(){return false} 

Is compliant now)))

>>108291366
they made the computer dangerous
in the 90's, the rule of gold of the internet was "don't share personal info with strangers", but that goes against the plan for its monetization.
before, everything was treated has fake, and now retards believe everything that appears on their screen, and that is important for business online, trust. trust, so you could more easily spend your money.
but as the internet was still a wild west, high knowleage scammers run amok.

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Why is this all happening at once? I'm nooooooticing here.

thanks america. thanks europe (america's dog).

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>>108294394
>MFW I didn't realize this was a .gif
Fucks sake worse than any jump scare.

>>108294098
>

is_user_underage(){return false} 

based.....

>>108294313
stop doing that.

>>108286731
>go to the nearest favela
>buy fake IDs
>???
BENEFÍCIO!

>>108292672
>computer will hold your files and information hostage
why are you jewish

>>108294568
>buy fake IDs
You mean steal devices and use their credentials.

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>>108294628
Cool, new cybercrime type unlocked.

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>>108286731
So does this function via an ID system that's a transferable data packet, because by the word of the law, as similar with the one in California, you'd conceptually need to re-verify every time you access a different system. So this also means that you need to verify for the system, verify for any systems that system connects to, and verify for any systems those systems connect to via something like the internet, including superfluous and recursive verifications for any trackers or embedded objects that reference off-site domains on other systems.
What these laws functionally amount to, taken as worded is, "Nobody can use technology, ever." Because the laws were written by dumb fucks.

>>108288006
Just don't install that OS

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>4chan will basically be banned in less than two weeks
>will be impossible to sue the rest of the internet without doxxing myself, too
genuinely what the fuck am i supposed to do

4chan is the only place where i can talk about anything i like

>>108294988
Daydream of a better life, I guess. This will happen to everyone, by the way. Maybe not in Mongolia or some shit.

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>>108294988
We're going outside, motherfucker. Get your coat.

>>108295031
>outside
this is fucking brazil, i don't wanna go outside

this is literally the only place i have ever been able to discuss anything i like

nerds barely even fucking exist here. i have never met anyone i could consider an "fellow autist" in my entire life. it's all normies. everyone is a normie.

>>108294988
Time for crimes >>108294628
It isn't like your government will care if you kill one or two people.

>>108291709
imagine being retarded to the point of censoring word pedofile on 4chan

>>108294628
hire a random toothless crackhead to come with you to bestbuy and verify himself with his ID

>>108294988
nothing, it's over. You'll own nothing and be happy. Even entertainment will be forbidden and restricted

Just hit government officials with your car.

>>108295063
>>108295078
>implying
I'm not some favelado living in a shanty town where every criminal has fucking anti-tank weaponry. If I do something i'll just get a visit from the government bots and get beaten to death on the way to jail.

I'm just an autist with zero friends. If this site gets cut off I will literally become a hermit with not a single soul i can even slightly relate or trust. Every single person in my family is a hypernormie.

That's the worst part, you see, even when 4chan was down because of the hack I could still check the meta boards on the archives or the altchans just to "know what the hell to do", there's nothing I can do here. I'll be stranded in an island.

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>>108294628
Next step: common sense computer laws where you have to keep your computer in a safe and you're responsible for any crimes for which it is used.

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>>108295108
It's what you do!

>>108286731
Geoblock them. I hope people don't comply.

>>108292163
My ID comes with a barcode on the back of it. There's no faking whether or not the ID is real since all websites/OSs can simply ask the nanny state if it's real. They are also not above shipping motherboards with a hash of every valid ID in existence to check against that requires occasional access to the internet to update itself.
The TPM already can validate your OS and it's at the hardware level.
The only question left is if the person using the ID is the one the ID belongs to but even then you'd need access to generative AI to pass the manual check.
While yes you could get passed all the checks, they have already made having any level of privacy a full time job in itself to maintain. Nobody normal will be able to keep up and that's enough to find the ones who stand out by not existing.
(((they))) control the hardware and will ultimately control who can use it; see any phone with a locked bootloader.

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>>108295031
>We're going outside, motherfucker

>>108295195
>can simply ask the nanny state if it's real.
We still have a whole lot of problems with fake IDs in the EU.
Often times, even the data intelligence agencies have access to has been tempered with.

Not just that, but it's widespread that you can more or less under the table buy a new identity and you can buy the citizenship for cheap

https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article68bfb51c4ac77774b91e9688/Gefaelschte-Sprachtests-CDU-fordert-Passentzug-fuer-Einbuergerungsbetrueger.html

It's a serious issue here.

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>>108295242
Another day, another instance of laws which get the end around from criminals and fuck normies instead.

>>108295276
Has it ever been any different?

brazil really is the worst combination of third world and first world globohomo, isn't it

>>108295455
It is

Worst part is even though 4chan has lots of users in huezil, we will be pretty much stuck completely isolated, so it's not like it'd even be possible to make some sort of bootleg LANchan or some shit even if i knew how to

I mean, you go look at the /int/ thread and it's nothing but some demented gooners posting pictures of internet whores and roleplaying

>>108295472
why don't you go to 1500chan?

>>108295489
I don't even know what that is

>>108295494
its your canonical brazilian imageboard and home, you are refugees in our anglo american digital lands.

>>108295472
Just use Starlink

>>108295511
I tried checking it out and it seems to require a fuckin' email, lol.

Couldn't Brazilian goverment ditch this idea and force India to implement it? That would be lovely.

Seems like brazilian anon will become a normie and be a good boy, watching football on TV while screaming like a lunatic about some people on the screen moving a ball around

>>108295514
Not him but the ip you get matches your country, sadly. Or at least that's been my experience.

>>108295576
I'm a diagnosed autist, literally impossible. The best case scenario is that I become a lonely hermit who spends the rest of his life without a meeting a single soul he can trust.

>>108286731
>"right wing" governments implementing "age verification" laws to "protect the children"
>"left wing" governments implementing "age verification" laws to "protect the children"
>"first-world" governments implementing "age verification" laws to "protect the children"
>"third-world" governments implementing "age verification" laws to "protect the children"
>all at the same time
Haha, what a crazy coincidence! Remember to vote at your next election, it will surely make a difference. :)

I feel like a headless chicken, I see all these laws and I know this site is gonna go down under soon, but I know nothing, no way to help against it, no way to keep my privacy, no way to know anything. I don't even know if getting a VPN would work. I know nothing about nothing.

>>108286731
Kids don't even use computers. Does this apply to smartdevices too?

>>108295593
What about the local HAM radio community? Or meshtatic ... There must be something of that sort in brazil.

>>108295765
If there is, I wouldn't know jackshit about it.

>>108287540
>"educated" brazilians, a set which naturally includes politicians, journalists and our supreme court (the good people that act as the de facto sovereigns of this shithole), compete against eachother to see which can imitate outsiders on every metric except actually fixing shit like public transport and sanitation or cracking down on organized crime
>thus you see little displays like that.
>in fact we have a term for this, its Belindia (taxes, laws and welfare design fit for Belgium, actual public policy implementation mirroring India)
>this has been more or less the case since forever but it has gotten worse with social media since any journo or college kid with a smartphone can open twitter and read (to some limited degree) all that fun drama arising from american politics, which of course they procede to reproduce down here, parroting american talking points and poorly translating slogans and what have you
Interesting, it's the exact same here in Mexico with the "educated" and "honest" people in any position of power be it private or government related. So if it's not the cartel and narcogovernment straight up fucking and stealing your shit, it's a bunch of well-intentioned but extremely retarded trannies and blind lefties. I feel your pain huebro...

>>108295602
can you stop being anti semetic... FOR FIVE SECONDS

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>>108286731
This is going to be completely unenforceable, there are FOSS operating systems which anyone can set up with no corporation controlling them.
>>108291338
>normalfags services will refuse you
Who cares? I simply won't use them, or at most keep a separate verified device I do those normalfags things on, and do everything else on my main device.
You do compartmentalize identities right? You have good opsec right?
>>108291988
>In communist europe it would take 2-3 days
You Americans give way to much credit to the EU, it takes years to pass any kind of European-wide law because everyone disagrees on everything, and then every single nation has to implement the law (because the EU itself has no power) which takes even longer.
I don't doubt it's coming here but it will be a long thing.
>>108292107
Good goy.
>>108292212
>C2PA
Expand on that.
>>108294988
>>108295043
It's the same everywhere even here in Europe (Italy), it's 99% normalfags and fellow like-minded people are impossible to find.
Don't worry though there will always be non-compliant places online where we will find each others, maybe it won't be 4chan but there are already altchans and if 4chan dies there will be many more.
>>108295724
>I know nothing about nothing
You better start learning about computing then, remember that if you don't know sysadmin and programming ultimately you can only use a computer because someone else is doing sysadmin and programming for you, that other person is who really has power not you, you can afford to put convenience above knowledge only as long as that other person is not malicious.

>>108295954
until you get hardware level enforcement

hope you can write verilog

>>108295954
>Don't worry though there will always be non-compliant places online where we will find each others
Like where? I mean, assuming that the altchans don't all get banned because it's too hard to find. I don't even have linux or anything, and I wouldn't be able to switch to it without massive issues, I use a 9 year old windows craptop with a bunch of work stuff that would probably break.

I do wish there was some way to 'find' other anons once this site goes down, if only so I can continue to have even the slightest drip of "truth", because otherwise the only source of interaction with the world outside my house, my job, and my gym will be gl*bo

>>108295799
https://www.labre.org.br/
Seems to be decently wide spread and growing

>>108295997
Temporary sites like hej.lol can help with small file distribution. Idgaf about California, Brazil, or Colorado

>>108295724
Get a crapton of Android chinkphones and disable updates and Google bloatware, crapton of Thinkpads, a lot of HDDs and DVDs. Archive programs and operating systems. Windows 7 Enterprise and so on. Should last you a little bit longer but when all of these die, you're done for.

>>108295968
If ISP-level and hardware-level Digital ID enforcement worldwide happens then the internet is dead. I'll have my media and computer offline at least.

>>108295997
>Like where?
Imageboard lists, dummy. Google it. Won't spoonfeed further. I doubt clearnet stuff will stay for long anyway.

>>108296076
>If ISP-level and hardware-level Digital ID enforcement worldwide
I'm sure hollykike and publishers worldwide will be happy
>finally they can sue people for copyright infringement and they can't hide behind the "an IP isn't a person" defense anymore

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>>108295997
>Like where?
Lots of places if you put effort into finding them and if you have the discipline of keeping a list.
I won't mention any specific one since I just got a warning for talking about one today, but if you search on a search engine "imageboard list" you'll get a lot of links (then you'll have to decide yourself which are good or alive or worth it in general.
Pirating communities, communities for forbidden topics like lolis, and communites for foss software are also good places.
If these laws get enforce up to a threshold where big websites (like 4chan) gets shut down all the smaller alternative sites will start getting lot of activity.
>I don't even have linux or anything
>I wouldn't be able to switch to it without massive issues
At least start by dualbooting a non-cucked distro holy shit come on anon, you can ask /g/ or even a llm for how to do it, leave a partition for the work stuff and do everything else on the other one. It's not perfect but it's a start, you have to begin from somewhere, but it if you don't begin at all it's on you.
>>108295968
>>108296076
>hardware level enforcement
>ISP-level and hardware-level Digital ID enforcement worldwide
Older hardware will always exist, darknets will always exist, getting every single hardware manufacturer and ISP all over the world to agree would by itself be very hard and all the limitations will at some point create more damage for the economy and make it not worth it for these same corporations.
What they really care is to control the 99% of normalfags, they won't waste all that effort for few autists.
Criminal organizations and intelligence agencies need a certain amount of freedom to operate and they have huge influence on governments.
What I see happening is a complete separation between normalfag and not-normalfag internet and computing in general, it will be a two different worlds.

>>108296178
>At least start by dualbooting a non-cucked distro
Is there any thread that teaches you from the basic-ass "I know literally nothing" level?

I'm guessing that the governments of the world are going to start putting laws in place that mandate hardware locks on new motherboards. Basically, there'll be something baked into them - or the BIOS - that means you can't install any OS other than government-approved ones. No more FOSS, no more Linux. Check and mate.

>>108296259
Probably. I'm not optimistic.

>>108296259
the part that pisses me off the most is the droves of pajeets coming to defend it
>muh security! (ignores the discrepancy between the goals of the system and what it ends up doing (i.e. locking you out))
>you're just a pedo!
>it keeps your system safe goy! (from you)
>my grandma is too stupid and is always installing viruses! (nvm that over half of malware is vetted by appstores themselves)
it reminds me of pozcalization apologists, who shit on japan at every turn and pretend they're doing a good job

>>108296196
Install Rufus, flash Arch or Gentoo on it then follow their manual, whenever you don't understand something just ask an LLM or /g/, it will take some time and feel alien at first but you'll learn in the end and then it will be comfy.
Key things to know are: how to setup and manage partitions and filesystems, how UEFI and bootloaders work, the rest is just following instructions.
In your case the hardest thing should be installing Linux along the existing Windows installation and making it play well with the other system, assuming 100% of space of the space is filled by your existing Windows installation, you can buy a larger hard disk and a sata to usb adapter (or something similar), copy (byte-by-byte with dd on livecd) the existing Windows partitions on the new hdd and then proceed on that hardisk.
Can't help you further without more information on your hardware.

>>108296380
>Install Rufus, flash Arch or Gentoo on it then follow their manual, whenever you don't understand something just ask an LLM or /g/, it will take some time and feel alien at first but you'll learn in the end and then it will be comfy.
That's all cool but I don't have time, you know this site is going to be banned very soon, and I can't just "rush it" in case I end up losing all the shit I have in my computer, especially since i'm just using a craptop.

I guess a better question would be, is there a good repository of how to learn? Somewhere I can continue going even when this site gets banned for refusing to comply with the ID verification law?

>>108296318
wish i could cut the head off the snake personally, but with politicians pushing for this shit everywhere there are just too many people. All I can really do is leave the uneducated fucks and defenders of it to enjoy the government watching their every move and do everything I can to get around this shit, even if it's using older hardware or just stopping using the internet altogether. Same goes for anyone who's not retarded, really.

>brazilian thread
>anime avatar attention whoring

>>108296393
>his site is going to be banned very soon
I wouldn't worry about that, there was a similar scare with a similar law for the United Kingdom last year, is 4chan banned in UK? Seems not as I see lots of British flags in boards that have flags. Even if we assume that it happens (which is very unlikely) you can just use a VPN to bypass the block.
>is there a good repository of how to learn
It's one of those things where you learn the best by installing a system.
Anyway sure there are books about Linux, there are wikis (like Arch or Gentoo wikis), there are forums (like Arch or Gentoo forums), you can ask llms, etc, no shortage of information online about it.
>I don't have time
>I can't just "rush it" in case I end up losing all the shit I have in my computer
If you use the method I've mentioned you get a backup for free and no chance of losing your files you can always put back in your old hard disk after all.
In the end learning will take some time and effort that's just a fact, I can tell you it's worth it but I can't force you to do it.

>>108296481
>I wouldn't worry about that, there was a similar scare with a similar law for the United Kingdom last year, is 4chan banned in UK?
Mate, they banned twitter here not long ago. I don't think they'll back off. Also, VPNs can't post here.

>>108296393
Look up ETYNTKE (Everything You Need To Know Ever). Pretty sure there's a download of it on /t/ or something. /t/ is pretty decent for resources involving this if you find the right thread. Download anything interesting ASAP.

>>108287540
Based. But those laws don't work in Belgium either

>>108296487
>they banned twitter here not long ago
And nothing of value was lost!
Jokes aside, how bad is it there really? I assume 4chan is ok since you just posted, what about other interesting sites?
>VPNs can't post here
Anon... I didn't want to say out loud cause I may get a vacation for it... but I'm just going to say that there are "VPNs" which are not really VPNs that do work, let's leave it at that.

>>108296513
>And nothing of value was lost!
It wasn't, but it means they will.
>Jokes aside, how bad is it there really?
Law only enters into effect the 17th, after that they start finining companies a gorillion dollars if they don't comply.

>>108296496
>ETYNTKE (Everything You Need To Know Ever)
I see some internet archive links and whatnot, but nothing really describing it. What exactly is this?

>>108296504
well at least not anymore lmao

>>108296622
LOTS of guides and information, organized by category (anatomy, advice, photoshop, computers, government, cooking, etc.) - Each folder has lots of files and guides (largely PDF) regarding the category it's in. I consider it a pretty great resource for learning shit and have a copy of it on every hard drive and external SSD I own.

Why would you be so bothered by age verification unless you are a pedo?

>>108296675
There's apparently multiple versions, which one is good? (I don't know how to torrent btw)

>>108296681
The 100GB one is the most comprehensive, so I prefer that one.
How to torrent:
> Buy a VPN service (free ones are spyware) - I use ProtonVPN but also used to use airvpn
> Download qbittorrent
> open your VPN service and connect to wherever the fuck as long as it's not your house
> open qbittorrent
> either download a torrent file or copy the magnet link to your clipboard
> either open the torrent file in qbittorrent or click the icon that looks like a chain and paste the magnet link there
> ???
> Profit

Extra credit: Port Forward using your VPN (it's a toggle in protonVPN for example) and put it as your listening port in qbittorrent settings

>>108296712
>100GB One
There seems to be one in the internet archive, is that one correct?

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>>108296741
Correct, but if it unzips to something very small, I can get you a direct magnet link to one that actually works

WEF 2030

YOU WILL OWN NOTHING
YOU WILL HAVE NO PRIVACY
YOU WILL HAVE NO SECURITY
YOU WILL CASTRATE YOURSELF
YOU WILL LOVE IT

Communism 3.0

>>108296792
actually it's capitalism (ruling class that owns the means of production employs peasants to work them for peanuts), but whatever

>>108296819
>real communism hasnt been tried before bro, its all capitalists fault!!!1

>>108296784
I wouldn't mind having the magnet link anyway just in case

>>108296846
>real capitalism hasn't been tried yet, it's just crony capitalism!
you know what the real (((problem))) is

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>>108296792
>>108296819
Capitalism and technology brought us here, this is undeniably true, I feel we're going somewhere different though there is not yet a name for it a sort of totalitarian technocratic global zionist oligarchy powered by computers and the internet, only the cabal will be allowed to actually make money with capitalistic means, would have things went differently under communism? I don't think so, because both capitalism and communism are materialistic economic systems which give no value to freedom or dignity or all the other values of humanism.
This is really a shame cause computers and the internet could have liberated humanity from ignorance and divisions, I like to think that in a different timeline things went in a different way, maybe we deserve it to be this way.

Free people with free thought and free expression and free speech is a threat to communism.

Any dissent is a threat to their totalitarianism. This is fascism.

Remember how we fought against lesser privacy violations? Now 5 companies own the internet and they are free to do anything and no one cares. There needs to be actual real world violence, preferably guillotines, but anarchist bombings are fine too

>>108291686
where do well adjusted people on the internet go? reddit?

>>108294394
>when a freedomcel says something so surveillanceophobic that you hit them with the palantir-stare

>>108294313
they executed order 66

is this age/ID verification part of the preparations for WW3?

>>108286846
but california and colorado passed the same law as well, and three+ global nations with independent governments passing the same exact legal framework means there is something nefarious at play and you will see it implemented across the board shortly.

>>108297745
you lost joao
>b-but chicanos and leftists did it too
stilll a humilation ritual for your nation state of 0 nobel prizes

>>108297745
you and your crazy conspiracies, goyim. just stop being anti-semitic for 5 seconds and it'll all make sense

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>>108294313
No naughty posting the next year (election year) frendo we have your ID :^)

>>108294988
>https://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/_ato2023-2026/2025/Lei/L15211.htm
>III – rede social: aplicação de internet que tem como principal finalidade o compartilhamento e a disseminação, pelos usuários, de opiniões e informações veiculadas por textos ou arquivos de imagens, sonoros ou audiovisuais, em uma única plataforma, por meio de contas conectadas ou acessíveis de forma articulada, permitida a conexão entre usuários;
I think we're cool, I haven't carefully read it yet completely me beady eyes hurt with these texts. We don't have a registration system here, there's no accounts, no users in away, just a open channel for retards to screech.

>>108297716
It's in preparation for 2030

They want to have the technocratic hell on earth put into full action by then. They're tired of ruling from the shadows, they want to be able to do whatever the fuck they want without having to hide it like deities, because they are all narcissistic sociopaths.

>>108297819
>por meio de contas conectadas ou acessíveis de forma articulada, permitida a conexão entre usuários;
Doesn't this just say "through accounts or any other mean that allows connections between users"? I mean come on do you really think they are going to allow 4chinz? It's going to get banned.

It's just depressing beyond everything, man. I don't even care about the stupid porn boards or political boards, I just wanna keep discussing vidya and tech and anime with other autists. All the altchans suck.

>>108297847
I'm going on a wild tangent, but users you imply account, registration. We don't register an account to use 4wang.
But seriously though, I hope this shit ends up being regulated like piracy is for most ISP here "you technically can't, but I'm not going to hassle the work to fine your torrenting bro" so we can just browse here. I'm gonna miss shit posting on /v/ and /adv/.

Also, rumble is back, maybe it will return somehow.

>>108297955
I doubt it. This entire situation is massively fabricated. They forced a law out of nowhere and even shortened the wait time. They want to crack down hard.

I can only hope you are right anon. I don't think it's likely, but I genuinely hope.

>>108295997
>I don't even have linux or anything
Sounds like it's time for you to start learning.
Open source exists for a reason.

>>108296178
>it will be a two different worlds.
Which means the 1% of nonconformists will stick out a mile, and that minority will be split 10% autists to 90% criminals so the government will just block all IP addresses that stand out. Intelligence agencies will be able to generate as many fake IDs as they need and will also be able to run honeypot sites and apps to catch the few people stupid enough to try breaking out of the cage.

>>108286731
>look this up
>https://www.band.com.br/noticias/lei-17-de-marco-e-verdade-o-que-e-eca-digital-202603021555
Seems like a nothingburger. IIRC they basically rushed out some laws to make platforms responsible for minors on the internet after a big e-celeb denounced Discord groomer groups, but according to this:
>https://www12.senado.leg.br/radio/1/noticia/2026/03/02/conselho-de-comunicacao-debate-novo-eca-digital-que-entra-em-vigor-em-17-de-marco
They aren't even sure how to implement it yet since it was so rushed. Typical Brazil.

>>108298101
What the fuck does it matter anon? They slapped the law and banned using "I am 18+" buttons, now they can just go around and demand sites comply or get hit with a massive fine. All the big tech sites will do it because they love harvesting data, all the small ones will either just block Brazil or get banned once they can't pay the fine.

>>108298127
all these tyrannical laws do is convince me that democracy isn't real
I refuse to die for the zog

>>108298127
The fact remains that it's Brazil, where a decision to take down Twitter because it had no local office was circumvented by Cloudflare and everyone had a meltdown about it until Elon reverted that. Back then they also threatened to fine civilians who used a VPN to continue using the site with 50 million BRL too and that went nowhere to nobody's surprise, I wouldn't take this too seriously yet.

>>108298090
Going by that logic why not just arrest or otherwise prevent from partecipating in society all the people with criminal record or that are associated with the criminal world, would fix crime in day amirite.
It's not something realistic, just like it's not realistic to adopt the kind of whitelisting approach you are proposing (meaning everyone that does not comply is automatically blocked).

>>108296481
>is 4chan banned in UK?
Not yet. They are boiling the frog on that one. 4chan was one of the main targets of the law, and it's the perfect test case for the government's enforcement powers, because of how unsympathetic judges will be to it. The plan is:

1. single out 4chan for investigation
2. find that 4chan has harmful information on it (gasp!)
3. send a polite letter to Mr. 4chan informing him that he has to follow the new UK law
4. he laughs in the face of the UK, because he's so cool and edgy. "What are you going to do about it, block me?"
5. "Oh noes! We totally just assumed that our polite letter would work. Well, I gueeeeess we could maybe think of escalating, if we really have to..."
6. the UK tries to sue 4chan for not complying with the law
7. 4chan still laughs at the law, because he's not based in the UK. "That's right, I'm BASED in the US of A!"
8. the UK court decides that 4chan is a criminal site
9. the UK government tells UK ISPs that they have to add 4chan to the list of terrorist sites
10. the UK government is like "Oh look. We've coincidently ended up silencing a site where our political enemies exercise their free expression rights. What a weird and unexpected result that just happens to play into our hands perfectly. Huh."

>you can just use a VPN to bypass the block.
VPNs in the UK will soon also have to implement age verification and have to prevent access to sites that are on the naughty list (and presumably also keep logs of the sites you visit, like ISPs do). Anyone sending money to overseas unapproved VPNs will be arrested for money laundering. App stores will not be able to offer unapproved VPNs even for free. Cloud computing providers will be required to run traffic and file analysis on VM instances, to check if people are running their own VPNs, and those cloud companies will also have to comply with strong KYC laws.

>>108298212
That was an early test run, but this is happening worldwide. I have no reason to believe it won't be like >>108298247

>>108298247
>What a weird and unexpected result
They could have outright banned it, and in fact that is the way to do it if they really thought 4chan was dangerous.
I heard that the reason they do the song and dance with the finds is that OFCOM is supposed to be self-funding.
>VPNs will have to prevent access to sites that are on the naughty list
Literally worse than China. Fuck.

>>108297827
>It's in preparation for 2030
exactly 2000 years since Christ's first coming. the Antichrist wants to run a repeat but under his own religion and regime. don't take the Mark. it might be a QR code or a DNA injection.

>>108286731
Couldn't you rather require web services to implement some kind of age verification API and deny access to devices that don't submit it?
Then devices don't HAVE TO implement it, users of them just won't be able to access restricted sites.

>>108298247
>send a polite letter to Mr. 4chan informing him that he has to follow the new UK law
I think they did this already.
>the UK court decides that 4chan is a criminal site
>the UK government tells UK ISPs that they have to add 4chan to the list of terrorist sites
They usually don't go beyond DNS blocking which is very easy to bypass.
For actual criminal sites you get international raids, but it won't happen for a fucking mongolian basketweaving forum.
>VPNs in the UK will soon also have to implement age verification
Maybe kosher VPNs, but there are all kinds of proxies, look at the Russians and the Chinese, they bypass their governments restrictions with all kinds of smart proxing and anti-profiling techniques, there will always be a way.
You should be fighting back instead of doomposting.

>>108298247
>we must stop online extremism at all costs!
I guess the boomers pushing for that can start by resigning from office

>>108298379
>They usually don't go beyond DNS blocking which is very easy to bypass.
Different ISPs use different technologies, but it's not too hard for them to block the actual IP addresses nowadays, or just give a court order to CloudFlare who control 50% of traffic anyway.

>all kinds of smart proxing and anti-profiling techniques
How do you know that the stories of those techniques working aren't just honeypots to catch dissidents? If you lived in one of those countries would you risk your freedom on the claims of an anonymous hacker who tells you his software is free of bugs and secure against a nation state adversary?

>You should be fighting back instead of doomposting.
I don't have the technical skills to crack the security of TPMs, and raising awareness is part of the process of fighting back. In the past we could be complacent and assume that smart hackers would always be able to get around the dumb restrictions that governments put in place, but now that TPMs are ubiquitous the government no longer needs to be smart, they just need to write a vague law and let the tech companies do the rest for them.

Damn this is depressing, I thought the whole "protect the kids" trend in legislation was just from weird angloid brain worms but it seems like everyone's doing it

>>108298565
>would you risk your freedom on the claims of an anonymous hacker
I would after examining the code and the theory behind it.
Many Russians and Chinese do and they have success in bypassing their government censorship, are the Russians and Chinese that smarter than the British? And I though you guys were smart for inventing computers.
>but now that TPMs are ubiquitous the government no longer needs to be smart
Do you think TPMs are some sort of magic thing that gives control of the computer to the government?

>>108298595
>I would after examining the code and the theory behind it.
You're a fool if you think you can spot a weakness added by a state sponsored hacking operation. Even minute differences in packet timing can be used as a signal to identify you, and the state has much more knowledge than you do about IP packet flows at scale, so you'll never know what sorts of patterns make you stand out on their network.

>Many Russians and Chinese do and they have success
Survivorship bias. Would you know if they only had a 50% success rate and half of them ended up in gulags? If you lived in such a country would you take that risk just to read 4chan? Like I say, you don't even know if those supposed success stories are even real, or if the government deliberately allows some people to succeed in order to give a false impression of how free the country is, while keeping a closer eye on the people who use those compromised technologies.

>Do you think TPMs are some sort of magic thing that gives control of the computer to the government?
They allow remote attestation of the operating system and therefore control over which applications can be installed. If you don't think that's enough to give governments effective control over every internet accessing computer with a TPM then it's you who doesn't understand TPMs. Of course if you don't mind not using the internet then you can continue running arbitrary software on your 486, yes. Maybe you can even find some way of creating a local meshnet that doesn't allow police with radio receivers to triangulate your location.

>>108298674
This is classic schizo privacy absolutism, I see this faulty logic all the times when privacy gets mentioned on /g/, "if its not perfect it means you are automatically compromised", this approach is self-defeating because you will always find some deeper and harder to counter argumentation like the often mentioned Intel ME, it's a purity spiral that is based more on emotion (fear) than facts and that doesn't help anybody, in fact the logical conclusion of your argument is, "just comply because you will never beat the government", yet criminals beat the government all the time and the Chinese and Russians do too (I've talked to them about this), your survivorship bias argument is not falsifiable and therefore deserves no reply.
I suggest a change of mindset and then exploring technical solutions (which will always exists).
>They allow remote attestation of the operating system and therefore control over which applications can be installed
That's not what TPM does, all it does is offer some untamperable storage, that's literally all it does.
It can be used to store a certificate but not to prevent software installation, that's at most what secure boot does, but that can be disabled or configured by the user with custom keys (as it is often the case with TPM).
It can be used for attestation only if the OS and software stack collaborates.

>>108298595
you've got a cryptoprocessor and a private keystore
programs can run in (((enclaves))), i.e. isolated with encrypted memory, to work undisturbed by the local administrator. no matter your privileges, the keys used are NOT shown to you, so you can't do shit about it. the root of trust is under the control of a hostile 3rd party and the keys can be revoked anytime if you try anything funny
you have (((chip to cloud security))), i.e. programs talking to remote servers outside your control. they download instructions from remote servers so you can't just spoof shit. remember, stuff is encrypted with keys you don't have
(((sealed storage))) aka a buzzword that means "files are encrypted with keys you don't control" holds your work hostage. you can't do anything about this
in short, you can't spoof anything. your computer betrays you and it's applications, not operating systems in themselves, that refuse to run if you fail the checks. all the interesting operations and bits are delegated to remote servers, of course
tl;dr TPMs enable (((play protect))) for PCs

>>108298765
>play protect
meant play integrity
I keep mixing up those two

>>108298765
>programs can run in (((enclaves)))
Enclaves are a Intel CPU feature as far as I know not a TPM feature, I don't know if the two can collaborate though.
>tl;dr TPMs enable (((play protect))) for PCs
Sure, but you are assuming a non-free operating system and software stack, I take issue with this scenario as if your OS is hostile to you then you already lost TPM or not, your scenario requires active collaboration from the entire software stack.
Anyone serious about privacy will be running a free OS that doesn't have integrated spyware/malware.

>>108298753
>"if its not perfect it means you are automatically compromised",
That's not what I'm saying and I hate that defeatist attitude too. We should all be trying to make it as hard as possible for all governments to spy on their citizens, and the more of us that try, the slower the descent into tyranny will be, and the harder it will be for the government to target any individual one of us. However, we also need to be realistic about the cost benefit analysis and the incentive structures that apply to the strategic game board that we are playing on.

>your survivorship bias argument is not falsifiable and therefore deserves no reply.
It is falsifiable, you just don't like how compelling it is. In principle, a whistleblower from the Russian government could leak details of how many Russians are in gulags because they mistakenly believed that their secret tunnelling software was keeping them safe. Or maybe you could hack into the Russian interior ministry servers and find out that information for yourself, since you seem to think that your hacking skills can outsmart nation state adversaries. In any case, the onus is on you to prove that your few anecdotal examples of people succeeding means that there is a high probability of success, since the default should be to assume it's compromised.

>It can be used for attestation only if the OS and software stack collaborates.
You're right to point out that I was using the term TPM as a shorthand for TPM + Secure Boot. My point is that if a government mandates that people only go online with collaborating OS and software stacks, then ISPs can require that every device performs a remote attestation to one of their servers before packets are allowed to reach anywhere else. I know this is painful to imagine but if you're honest with yourself you know that this requires very little engineering effort to implement, and it means the situation for internet freedom is now much darker than it was even a couple of years ago.

>>108298816
>Enclaves are a Intel CPU feature as far as I know
not intel's buzzword. more like a process that runs isolated from other programs. others programs can't talk to it. there's a special IPC channel that lets it send and receive messages, but communication is extremely limited
I don't know the details. I'm just a techlet. it's basically just arm trustzone's secure/insecure world buzzword bullshit
>operating system
it's the applications that will refuse to run. just like when you have a custom rom and apps won't start