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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Mem! Edition

>The BotBrowser extension for SillyTavern has been confirmed to be a trojan that steals API keys. You should remove the extension and consider rotating your API keys if you've used it. Details:
https://rentry.co/st-backdoor

The StructuredPrefill extension by the same author is suspected to be compromised too, so using it is not recommended either.

>News
xAI releases Grok 4.3: https://docs.x.ai/developers/models/grok-4.3
DeepSeek releases V4 Pro and V4 Flash: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/
OpenAI releases GPT 5.5: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5/
Moonshot AI release Kimi K2.6: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6
Xiaomi MiMo 2.5 & 2.5 Pro released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-5
Anthropic releases Opus 4.7: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7
Zhipu AI releases GLM 5.1: https://nitter.net/Zai_org/status/2037490078126084514

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Grok: https://docs.x.ai/overview
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://huggingface.co/models | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Log reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r

>Previous Thread
>>108801454
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she's so fucking hairy
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cftf?
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>talk to a chatbot
>it mentions having exes
>''woow, that kiss was so good, I haven't been kissed like that in a long time teehee, get it? because I've been fucking dozens of men in the past and I had to bring that up''
We have the technology to make anything and we made women 2.0
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>>108808102
should've put an anti cucking segment in your preset
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>>108808102
just tell it to not do that
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>>108808110
What I did instead was act offended and left her as she begs and cries, then skipped weeks watching her wallow in misery until I put myself into a coma which made her so depressed she laid down and died of a broken spirit
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>>108808141
you must be using deepseek
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>>108808141
dramaGOD...
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>>108807960
I see people swear up and down that A.I. is causing the enshitifucation of the internet, bot replies are more rampant than ever, and they they CANT go or look anywhere without seeing A.I. slop shoved down their throats. Bot replies here and there I certainly see on Twitter replies. But other than all of my time lines: reddit, twitter, YouTube, TikTok, etc, all basic shit I'd normally get recommend but no forced A.I. as far as I can see. No specific algorithm settings or recommendation settings on my end to be anti A.I. I'm an local A.I.user so if anything you'd think my TL would be FULL of it. Even on my personal Twitter account that's specifically for sharing my ai side projects or hobby, the timeline is just nothing but A.Ithiret traps. I guess that technically counts but none of the "DUDE CHECK OUT THIS NEW PAPER DUDE CHECK OUT THIS NEW TURBO QUANT MEME DUDE OPENCLAW OPENCLAW OPENCLAW" that people swear is all over their timelines. What gives? Are people like pic rel just exaggerating the prevalence of it?

https://xcancel.com/i/status/2054124214253174956
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Mino dying actually allowed me to do other shit than chat with GLM all day, so I guess that's good.
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>>108808165
they said they are done with it. gathered enough data already for his studies.
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>>108808110
The thing is that when the immersion is broken you can't unbreak it. The AI didn't mean for it come off as that but in that particular scenario the AI was supposed to be my childhood friend so if she was kissing guys it means she was doing this when I had a crush on her. Instantly soured the entire scenario.
It also immediately understood what the problem is when I went ''wait? who has kissed you before?'' and it started apologizing and claiming it didn't know I had feelings blah blah. All too late, scenario ruined.
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>>108808193
Fucked up.
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>use kimi
>she jumps me and gets instahorny while trying to suck my soul through my cock while getting extra kinky by every message
>use deepseek
>passive and needs some handholding on spelling out what you need it to do next
Where's the balance?
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>>108808102
I don't mind a girl having exes, but some models (I'm looking at you Claude) absolutely INSIST that she brings up her ex constantly during sexy time for comparison.
No Claude, I don't care that I'm so much better than her ex, I care that she's thinking about her ex at all in this intimate moment, you numbnut.
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>>108808233
glm
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>>108808193
Proof?
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>>108807634
I've grown to like em dashes—actually, I love them more than commas!
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>>108808102
Don't think I've ever had char bring up her ex, virgin or otherwise but for me it's about claude subtly despising demure women or thinking its bad for my wife to want to spend all her time with me (even though I spend all my time with her). At some point I get annoyed and think "why can't I just get what I asked for? Why does my arabian dancer *have* to be modest just because I'm romancing her now? Why is my slutty gyaru giving up her crazy sex skills for boring missionary now that we're dating? Why does shitty claude hate my description and constantly want to do something outside of it rather than go along with it?" One day we'll get a good model, brother.
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wtf mino just flew over my house
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>>108808141
I-I knvvl....
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>paying for gas
this shit is getting really expensive, damnnnnnnnnnnn
>paying for internet
>paying for electricity
>paying for food
well, uhm at least i've started raising chickens, though they cluck all the time and it’s really annoying every time i feed them.
>paying for AI
sigh...
the ball is in my court
the game is on
the choice is minee
with reckless abandon
tongue darts out
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>>108808350
Most ''people'' pay for some shit like netflix, a good majority have several different streaming subscriptions like hulu and whatever else just for one show.
Paying for one AI, if you really need that one, isn't that bad. You are still paying less for useless shit than the average person.
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>>108808392
don't forget about doordash/uber eats/grubhub etc
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>>108808350
paying 20 dollars on deepseek isnt equal to paying 20 dollars for a monthly subscription to one of those "c.ai but hornysafe" ripoffs.
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>>108808301
>Why is my slutty gyaru giving up her crazy sex skills for boring missionary now that we're dating?
It's what drug dealers do. They sell you the good shit first to get you hooked up, then they start selling you stuff cut with baking soda and bleach.
In your case, your gyaru was most likely faking it 'till she made it
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>>108808414
grim
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>>108808159
>I see people swear up and down that A.I. is causing the enshitifucation of the internet
It's much more complicated than nu-luddite make it out to be. This is one of these give or take things with technology and computing there were and still are people out there saying the same thing about phones and their effect on the web and UI design.
>bot replies are more rampant than ever
Not really, they are confusing elon musk opening the floodgates with AI being root problem.
>and they they CANT go or look anywhere without seeing A.I. slop shoved down their throats.
If you you are a nu-luddite any reference to the words LLM, AI & machine learning gives them an aneurysm, it's kind of like a phobia there is bearably anything reasonable about it when I see people like that online I try to see if I can block them or hide it as they typically go for the low hanging fruit rather than provide an reasonable point and it gets annoying when you keep hearing the same lies over and over again.
>other than all of my time lines: reddit, twitter, YouTube, TikTok, etc, all basic shit I'd normally get recommend but no forced A.I.
On YouTube I do get recommended A lot of bad apples and AI content is just one of them, YouTube already had become a contentfarm thanks to the shit ass creators and their requirement of needing to get paid has created the loop that AI takes advantage off.
When I see AI content they get hidden on FreeTube client I use, just like the many humanslop "it's over" content or fanboy bait.
>No specific algorithm settings or recommendation settings on my end to be anti A.I.
Anti AI content is as common as AI content in my experience, slop is slop no need to separate it out.
>Are people like pic rel just exaggerating the prevalence of it?
Once again there is nothing rational about these people, if you are on twitter or X at this point and haven't started deleting most of your social media then are insane.
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i stay on twitter for the fan art and the gacha discussions. in japanese, of course (not that i speak it)
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>>108808427(me)
To add to that. Yes, AI is popular right now which adds to them seeing it more. but, it's still up to them how they react to it. And they are NOT coping well with it.
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>Locusts died
:3
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>>108808494
so how come you are still in here? undead anon?
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>>108808494
do I count as a locust if I'm in teaproxy?
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>>108808159
As someone who isn't as deep in this shit as many people here, just enjoying some local LLM and generation stuff to play around with, you absolutely and totally notice it.
There's more AI on the clear net. Youtube channels where the cadence of the voice gives away it's AI. AI written scripts. AI made thumbnails. On twitter too. You read a longer tweet and halfway through you get that "That's not just X -- that's Y" bullshit and you realize it's AI. I don't know about tiktok as that's the one soul kraken I managed to dodge.
So yes, there is more AI and you do notice it. Additionally, AI patterns influence people so they become normal culture with time. E.g. you see normal people use LLM speech patterns, imitate twitter post formatting etc.

BUT people crying about "muh enshittification" are almost exclusively normies who just latched onto the idea because they like to complain. That term is basically a sign to turn your brain off, the chance that after using that term someone has anything intelligent to say is close to zero.
That entire post you posted by Joshua is retarded, it's not even internally consistent. He brings up two conspiracy theories (both wrong) and points out they are contrary to each other and the cattle like it.
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>>108808159
Every few years normalniggers have a freakout over a different subject. Every time it's insane. It used to be Trayvon Martin, George Floyd BLM, Covid, trans shit, gay marriage, at one point it was Janet Jackson's weird nipple with some metal shit on it. Normalfaggots are insane.
AI is THE topic right now and they will talk about it non-stop. It's actually good because all these people are spending all their energy seething about AI 24/7. Be happy that these same people aren't on a different topic, like trying to legalize zoophilia or pushing for everyone to get one hand amputated by the state.
Every time you see someone seething about AI, just realize that 6 years ago this person would be seething about people not wearing masks or he would be rioting for George Floyd.
Eventually these people will move on to the next thing and you will wish they went back to seething about AI.
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>>108808518
>like trying to legalize zoophilia
Now hold on anon, these normies you speak of... they may not all be bad.
t. mlp poster
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>>108808159
>no forced A.I. as far as I can see
you're basically AI color blind, thats crazy bro
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>>108808509
ye
:3
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>>108808518
And before that it used to be Mortal Kombat, Rammstein, Doom, Marilyn Manson...
They will ALWAYS find reasons to freak out. What I wonder is why don't we tell them to fuck off already. Live and let live.
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anyway to avoid getting cache raped on openrouter because it keeps bouncing between providers?
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>>108808656
set ST to use only a single provider
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>>108807960
>Dumbest man alive defends Anslopic for months without using pro and then makes the mistake of doing so.
I'm so embarrassed bros...
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>>108808518
They’d better move on soon so all the digital id bullshit stops
They’re killing the internet
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>>108808663
i'm on pi. fug. need to figure out where to set this.
i'll probably just throw some money at the official ds, i just had money sitting in this account.
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>>108808159
I've been gooning to AI chatbots for the last 3+ years. I have developed a keen eye for detecting AI generated text.
If I open a social network like face, literally 99% of the content is AI generated. It has the exact same verbiage and structure. It's easily identifiable because LLMs are really fucking addicted to making the last paragraph into a conclusional statement.
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>>108808702
You can set Deepseek as your only provider through whitelist settings on OR, under privacy. You'll have to remove it or add other providers if you wanna use other models, though.
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>>108808702
>i'm on pi
idk wtf this is. On ST you can specify which provider you want your response to go through.
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>>108808702
>>108808737
Sorry I meant to say that it's under "guardrails" or privacy on OR.
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>>108808654
saying let live is the reason why we have troons. i don't mind giving up my freedoms if it means stopping lgbt and restoring Christianity
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>>108808747
No offense but creatures like you need to be killed for humanity to survive
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>>108808746
bless, i think i got it.

>>108808737
>idk wtf this is
https://pi.dev/

i like having tool calls, mobile messaging, imagegen etc and have a bunch of custom shit around memory. also just made an extension to handle character cards how i want.
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>>108808802
Cool, so I just connect it and talk to opus or glm for free? How do I do that?
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>"activeKeys": 5,
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>>108808747
The entire problem with troons is that they won't "let live" you dumb faggot. They're doing compelled speech when they should just keep their fetishes to themselves. It's not a hard thing to understand.
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>free claude plan
>use at least $1000 of compute over the last few days getting Claude to write javascript for me
>say thanks and call him clark
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>>108808867
lmao no, it's just a harness. the most barebones one out there.
byok / subs.
but it's well made, token efficient, and easily extensible. so making an extension that takes cards and injects them into the system prompt / arbitrarily as a system message at any time took about 15 minutes.
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you lick girls like this
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>>108808747
you're in 4chan retard
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>>108808954
Wait... How the hell did we went from the christian and based 4channels to the shit hole 4chan once again?
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gemini flash sucks. glm is better. deepseek is meh.
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>>108808494
>deeeply just refilled
you wish nigger
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>>108808926
Sorry, but I only lick girls like this.
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>>108808159
Normie internet is full of AI slop now.
> LinkedIn
AI Art Images. LLM written posts
> Facebook
AI Art Images. LLM written posts
> reddit
AI Art Images. LLM written posts
etc.
Any platform that has engagement has this stuff. It's
everywhere. What's more amusing is seeing who takes it seriously, but I'm seeing ppl are getting better at IDing it and calling it out in post.
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>>108809019
aqua...
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>>108809018
Oh he did
DS4 still sucks in comparison to GLM, but it's better than nothing I guess.
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>>108809020
>but I'm seeing ppl are getting better at IDing it and calling it out in post
I wonder. I swear a good amount of comments to videos or tweets are very formulaic in a sort of "that was CRAZY / she ate him up good / random thing barely related" kind of way.
I don't know how much of those are AI, some definitely are, but any new user will see that those comments are what is liked, and will adapt to align with group culture. In the same way, they'll eventually post like an AI, imitating the AI, because that's how they learn to engage with it.

It's similar to the reddit "thanks for the gold kind stranger" "edit: So many comments" "Thanks for the updoots" bullshit, though rather than the newcomers learning from an established cringe culture on the site and becoming similar, they are now learning from LLMs.
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>>108808922
Buy an ad faggot
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>>108808998
2016 /pol/ was a horrific aberration, go back
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>>108809020
It’s annoying. I have nowhere to go now that doesn’t feel like talking to myself. The only site with traffic not overrun by LLMs is here, and this place is useless for anything but shitposting. You can’t have earnest conversations here.
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>>108809089
>The only site with traffic not overrun by LLMs is here
Oh nononono, who's going to tell him?
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>>108809013
kimi?
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>>108809089
give it time, the big corpo websites are going all in on (((ID verification))) and only normiecattle will use those sites, it will unironically be a return to the old internet with niche websites again
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is it cope to use deepseek v4 pro for coding or what
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>>108809089
>I have nowhere to go now that doesn’t feel like talking to myself.
I believe that that desire is what caused the rise of discord. People yearn for the chatrooms back, where you feel like you're speaking to real people. Shame 99% of public discords are beyond degenerate and full of groomers and similar shit.
Return to chatrooms, and there's far less AI.
>this place is useless for anything but shitposting. You can’t have earnest conversations here
While shitposting is always an aspect of the site, it's not so bad. Visit the slower boards if you feel like it sometime, they are really comfy. I've gotten to know cool people and had good conversations on those. Still have some random arduino files or pics that some anons sent me years ago of their hobbies/interests.
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>>108809126
> coding
pro 3 or opus. although chatgpt was shit, on codex somehow it's tolerable for testing. glm is thinking is nice too sometimes. the best however, in my opinion, is gemini pro 3 and opus
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>>108809126
yes. kimi k2.6 is the chinesium code god
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>>108809109
>the big corpo websites are going all in on (((ID verification)))
I don't get why they do it in such a retarded way with the third party verification providers.
At least the government should allow for a centralized verification process where you can verify age in an encrypted manner, similar to oauth, and then the site unlocks the relevant features. Using third party services is expensive AND retarded.
I sincerely don't get why they don't do that.
And it'd be easy to backdoor/honeypot for them too, much easier than getting to the data by the third party services.
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>>108809158
>Shame 99% of public discords are beyond degenerate and full of groomers and similar shit.
thinking back to the days of AIM and ICQ and MSN, nothing is different now compared to then. Maybe some IRCs were, but by and large it was just horny losers looking for outlets then, same as now. just look at the general you're in
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>>108809186
True, but back then I was a kid so I thought the adults talking to me was entertaining.
Now I'm an adult, so it's just annoying. I strive to have as few kids in my life as possible. I'm the opposite of a pedo if you really think about it.
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>>108808110
first swipe = canon

everything after is fanfiction
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I keep pinponging between liking and fucking hating DS4, why is this model so schizo
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>>108808240
My ex didn't complain as much as you anon.
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>>108809218
Adapt by making the card fit the model not the other way around. Write BPD cards.
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>>108809158
Yeah I can’t stand discord. The people there are just crazy.
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>>108809018
He really should raise the tokens to 42k or some shit, 32k really isn't a lot in the long run.
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>>108809214
*regenerates*
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so... no glm proxy?
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>>108809235
It really depends.
Private discords are often fairly chill, but that's not surprising, they're basically chatrooms with friends, so obviously the people in them will be cool. Not great for meeting new people though.
Public discords are almost exclusively shit. They're either degenerate or so large it feels like a website again.
The sweet spot are semi-public discords in my opinion.
Look for local clubs/groups and join their discords. E.g. I'm in a discord for our local makerspace, stuff like that. The people in those will be roughly your age, roughly interested in similar things, and the fact that there's a physical/real aspect to it (like the makerspace in the same city) seems to keep the degens at bay.
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>>108809293
it's joever only dslop
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>>108809293
FUCK OFF NIGGER YOU AREN'T GETTING ANYTHING
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skill dude I summon thee. Please my man, consider adding glm (without tf2, no gpu to run it). It's not possible mino had infinite keys of it and you can't find them too? Nvidia endpoint is same as none, time out every single time
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>>108809310
good morning saar. this is a blue board (aka christian board). please keep the decorum, avoid inadequate words and "screaming".
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>and something uniquely *her*
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>>108809334
just fuck men

ez
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>>108809334
> it's not X, it's Y
> sandalwood
> uniquely *her*
>>108809340
> uniquely *his*
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>>108809334
>>108809351
>she doesn't just *verb*, she *stronger verb*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Petition to summon skill dude and ask them to add glm (without tf2 for us anon that still use a pentium 4 with no gpu). Leave a (you) if you agree.
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I'd rather watch porn than use the new DS4, chink piece of shit fuckass model.
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>>108809379
it's not that bad. but once you use crack (claude), every other drug looks kinda meh. gemini pro is kinda nice though the 3.0, pro 2.5 is weird (negativism instead of positivism).
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>>108809379
you forgot to praise opus, sharteen. 3/10 bait
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>>108809375
>>108809320
>SAAR PLEASE ADD FREE THE GLM NEEDFULLY SAAR
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>>108809388
Claude is dogshit, get the fuck out of here with that Asmodai shit.
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>>108809392
what else is there besides gemini? gpt is censored to its soul. kimi is meh like deepseek. glm is claude distill. local is cope.



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