>>109128098
It is okay because nobody uses it

>>109128098
I use it so now I have to install ufw on my machine

You have absolutely no idea what IPv6 is.

>>109128225
tpbp
/thread

>>109128302
>>109128225
>nooo a doxxable prefix totally isn't the same as a static ip address goy

>>109128347
>noooo my ipv4 shared by my whole house that never changes is le heckin private
Reboot your router whenever you want and get a new prefix.
Simple as.

>>109128371
my ipv4 is completely random across my nearly continent-wide isp
ipv6 is the opposite of that

>>109128371
you don't get a new prefix though, that prefix is permanent , you only get useless bits at the end and you're already predoxxed by the time anything gets to them

>>109128371
isnt the prefix your mac address

>>109128374
And yet your "completely random" address only changes every two weeks and somehow all those IPv4 geolocation services still can tell your nearest city.
Delusional.

>>109128385
That's the suffix and only if your computer is set to not randomize it.
>>109128381
It is not. My ISP dynamically assigns IPv6 prefixes exactly like how they do IPv4. Reboot your router and you get a new one.

glowniggers out in force to defend IPvDoxxed

>>109128402
they won't stay like that, you will get rugpulled
ipv4 is unrugpullable and always eternally anonymous with shared ip pools
ipv6 is anonymity holocaust

>>109128426
>ipv4 is unrugpullable and always eternally anonymous with shared ip pools
And yet somehow I've had the same IPv4 all to myself for months at a time...

>>109128438
skill issue, all good isps issue completely clean ipv4 ips on router reset

>>109128444
Just like all good isps do for IPv6.

ipv6 is a BROWN THIRD WORLDER technology

WHITE FIRST WORLDERS have IPv4 addresses

>>109128452
ISPs have no option to dox-prefix ipv4 because they have so few
they will do this to ipv6 because they can

>>109128098
I have IPV6 disabled on my devices because my mobile carrier uses it to track Hotspot useage lol

>>109128381
Pretty much every residential ISP will give you a new prefix so they can charge you more for a fixed one just like IPv4

>>109128098
Why do people have opinions on this? Explain why you care.

>>109129180
because it will use fixed prefixes per ISP subscriber and eliminate the ability to ban evade on the internet

>>109128374
There is no such thing as a completely random ipv4, anon.
You really have no idea what you are talking about.

>>109128807
You are living in an NSA surveillance state.
Your IPv4 is tracked.

>>109129194
all 4 parts change when i get a new ip
there isn't even a /8 to ban

>>109129207
No anon, your ISP has an ASN with a few ranges he selects out of.
That's why all the geolocation services can track you.

>>109129206
we're talking about websites being able to ban people retards not government threats

>>109129214
So the right to be anonymous is not a right to be anonymous towards the state?
Then put a bullet into your head, you disgusting bootlicker.
>ban people
oh yes, because when someone has a /48 IPv6 range where he can select out of more possible IPs than the whole IPv4 range as a whole, he is simpler to ban than when he runs around with the assigned one and only IPv4?

Did you even know that you get a whole subnet in IPv6 out of which you yourself can choose an address?

>this thread again
NAT isnt anonymous.
Static ipv4 isnt anonymous.
Being able to cycle through 10,000 different ipv6 addresses is more anonymous than everything else.

>>109129232
it's nearly impossible to achieve it against the state, strawman argument. this is about websites not being able to dox and permaban people

>>109129237
cope, ipv6 will have unchangeable prefixes, ipv4 ISPs get cucked and have to give everyone the same pool which guarantees near immunity to permabans

>>109129207
And yet your 'totally random' ipv4 address is still tied to your ISP and the city you are located in.
>whatismyipaddress.com

>>109129186
That’s already a thing with IPv4. Have you never seen the “your IP range is blocked” message?

>>109129253
no because i'm a white first worlder
only subhumans ever get that when shithole countries get banned

>>109129249
that only sometimes works

>>109129245
> this is about websites not being able to dox and permaban people
Have you ever tried to make a post only to see you've been banned for a post on a board you've never ever visited in your life?
Yeah, thats how 4chan bans a user, they just flat out ban the entire subnet an ISP holds for use in that specific city.

>>109129261
>Yeah, thats how 4chan bans a user, they just flat out ban the entire subnet an ISP holds for use in that specific city.
lol no they don't, that's you cycling onto an old banned ip

>>109129272
4chan bans entire subnets, you luddite newfag.

>>109129259
It happens anytime someone does any illegal shit like posting cp. Try to post from your phone on mobile data from time to time.

>>109129277
maybe for your third world shithole, doesn't happen to firsties

Can't ban a subnet when every octet changes. You have to ban the whole ISP and that's too big if it's an American ISP

>>109129232
Ban that /48, simple as.

>>109129284
ISPs typically use a /24 subnet for their dynamic IP pools for a specific area, or a /22 for denser metropolitan areas. They aren't cycling dynamic IP addresses within a /8 subnet.

>>109129311
Incorrect. My IP always has 4 new octets.

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>>109128098
*Changes the mac address of his router*

Mainstream cattle-sites only ban /128's. If you've ever scraped youtube you'll know the value of being able to rotate through trillions of IPv6 addresses in your /64 or perhaps /48 if you're lucky.
The ""doxable prefixes"" OP is whinging about are exactly the same as how every ASN has a set of known IPv4 blocks, and if a janny gives a fuck about you specifically they'll just blacklist or track you across your whole ASN, especially if it's obscure. 4chan also rangebans based on ASNs.

>>109128347
>he thinks CGNAT will save him
Lmao retard.

>>109129351
>only changes the end part of the adddress, rendering him raped and gaped, permabanned and doxxable

>>109129358
CGNAT is based and ensures infeasibility for nigger website owners to try and permaban people because they have to take out too many innocent victims

>>109129311
He's probably talking about some stupid third world phone provider, in which case they sometimes pull from two or three ranges for the same customer, because their ranges are all so tiny.
But it doesn't matter, because they are part of the same ASN and they only use specific ranges for specific regions.

There are some phone providers that randomize nationwide within their ASN, like i know that a turkish one does this, but if you use one of those, you are simply getting range banned and flaged by the whole internet.
Not even goycattle platforms deal with that shit. They dont need those few turks either, they are just getting banned collectively.

>>109129356
Even better: You can use a different IPv6 for website A than you use for website B, on the same machine.

>>109129414
you are currently writing on a website that throws rangebans around that you can onky survive by registering with an email.

>>109129464
only happens to thirdies, they don't have the will to enforce it on rich americans/firsties because it kills the site instantly if they did

>>109129471
thirdies are also the only ones with CGNAT

we really need flags, only americans and western europeans should be allowed to respond

simple facts
>american isps randomize all octets within their IP pools which means it's impossible to make ip based permabans except to ban the entire ISP
>they have to do this because they don't have enough IP addresses to do prefixing

IPv6 will change this and gives them the option of ruining the internet by giving each customer a predefined prefix they cannot change
>b-but they don't/won't
they can, this is what matters, if they can they will, jewniggers in corporations want it for tracking, jewniggers on websites like reddit want it for bans

>>109129495
>american isps randomize all octets within their IP pools which means it's impossible to make ip based permabans except to ban the entire ISP
False, I've never had one that does this.
>they can, this is what matters
Why would they, when they could upsell instead? >>109128946

>>109129495
>american isps randomize all octets within their IP pools
And as you got told here multiple times: This does not matter. You don't know what an ASN is and you aren't willing to learn about it either.
Therefor your opinion is uninformed, dumb and irrelevant.
Stop talking about things you dont understand.

>>109129495
>they have to do this because they don't have enough IP addresses to do prefixing
do you think that ISPs are given completely random IPs from 0.0.0.0/0 instead of chunks (one might even say... prefixes) of IPv4 addresses?

>>109129414
The janjans here give out rangebans to entire western ASNs from singular people posting a stealth Don Turtelli pic

>>109129508
mine does, skill issue

>>109129515
most websites dont use this for bans, 4chan absolutely does not

>>109129516
not mine

>>109129515
ASNs dont matter when they're massive american ISPs retard, all they know is you're ones of millions of people, they CANNOT take action against you because it's too many rich first worlders.

>>109129414
i can assure you that no website owner on this world ever thought:
>oh damn, there is a guy spamming on my platform, but he has CGNAT so i can't ban him or it would ban others with him!!!

Your CGNAT IP just gets banned.
And if you reroll a different one, your ranges gets banned.
Or alternatively you are prompted to doxx yourself via other means like third party logins.

>>109129542
we're not talking about 1 ip, we're talking about the ENTIRE RANGE OF IPS THAT THE ISP OWNS (which they issue randomly with no ability for you to detect who is who)

>>109129535
really weird how those IP geolocation services can track you then

>>109129553
4chan doesn't use them so they're not part of the conversation
also they fail entirely on mobile

>>109129547
Then we arent talking about CGNAT.
Choose a subject you fucking nigger.
The more you write the more obvious it gets that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

For months you couldn't post on this website without enabling third-party scripts that fingerprinted your browser so extensively that either it would know who you are regardless of IP, or it would simply disallow you from posting entirely. Site mods don't give a fuck about causing inconveniences to "westerners" to catch CP-spamming thirdies like OP

>>109129557
cgnat just means you share ip addresses
i dont care about the autism about if it's at the same time or not

>>109129555
How do you think are flags on flag boards possible?

>>109129558
that's just to detect the proxy software and other things they were using, it's not for fingerprinting or identifying people. otherwise ban evasion would no longer work.
all that proxy stuff would work if they were using headed browsers in a vm or whatever, its because they weren't doing that

>>109129569
different mechanism. geoip isn't used in banning, they have to rangeban entire ISPs when they want to. their only option is to restrict it to board or sitewide

>>109129581
so if i choose an American IP from my residential proxy provider i am completely invincible and unbannable?

>>109129588
What is different about it?

>>109129591
don't conflate the IP with everything else
if you get caught because your timezone doesn't match up or something that's your fault

>>109129588
>they have to rangeban entire ISPs when they want to
As said previously, the only ISP i know that would require that is a turkish one.
Every single other ISP from any other country in the world i witnessed only choose out of a limited amount of ranges per customer.

>>109129599
country level isn't nearly sufficient for a permaban unless it's the vatican

>>109129611
what country? not america i assume. lol i guess yuros are ip poorfags

>>109129619
why would it be only country level?
someone had to take that data, how did they do it, if your glorious superior American IP is anonymous?

This whole retard-argument is boiling down to:
>it is sometimes possible, with a perfect setup, to ban-evade therefore no attempts to stop ban evasion that we see happen with our own eyes ever happen! including the really really easy shit

>>109128098
I forgot the reason why m00t ditched ipv6 banning

>>109129634
it's trivial to ban evade right now as a first worlder with a randomized residential ISP IP address
ipv6 takes this away

Will this stop people from just unplugging their router or something?

>>109129640
its much easier to banevade as a turk, since their phone providers randomize country wide, while you are always tracked to your village in Atlanta

>>109129640
it's so trivial bro! just ignore that it becomes impossible when the mods decide to turn on S**r*s without apparently freshly rolling new VMs on resiproxies (that have nothing to do with american IPs) and fresh browser fingerprints on your botnet you have (that also are not in america), every time you want to make a new shitpost

>>109129643
yes because only the end part of the new ipv6 will be random, so they will just ban the prefix

>>109129652
you're talking about mass at scale evasion services

i'm talking about any random shitposter resetting their modem

>>109129655
>because only the end part of the new ipv6 will be random
What makes you think that?
Why would it be impossible for a provider to hand out a different prefix?

>>109129663
>What makes you think that?
because they have enough ips to do that, so they will invariably give customers a predefined prefix so it's easy to track/ban/monitor them

the only reason we have randomized ipv4 addresses is because they don't have enough

>>109129658
Why would it make a difference?
It is utterly impossible to ban American IPs, because you would have to rangeban all those super valuable people to do it.

So no matter if small or big, if you only make sure to have a single American IP to reroll, you dont have to spend money on residential proxies, right?

>>109128807
If we ban India the ipv4 problem goes away .

>>109129672
but they're not banning your residential proxies, they're banning your setup which is attempting to use them. it's completely different than a person using their own IP

you could get your posts rejected when trying to use the residential proxy and the actual owner of that IP could be posting perfectly fine at the same time

>>109129666
But we are talking about American ISPs of freedom who have such giant ranges that they habe ten times more IPv4 IPs than they have customers already.

They can give you a static IPv4 if they want to. They simply don't do that because they want to stop you from hosting servers... you gotta pay extra for that.
Why wouldn't they do the same for IPv6?
Where is the difference here?

>>109129682
>American ISPs of freedom who have such giant ranges that they habe ten times more IPv4 IPs than they have customers already.
source? ipv4 addresses are a cherished commodity, i highly doubt they want to do that
ipv6 makes them super cheap so they'll give in to lobbying from faceberg to do it so they can track people no matter what they do

>>109129680
So it doesnt need the residential proxies?
Because thats not what they ban, according to you.
Just get one single American IP of freedom and all your IP worries are solved.

>>109129690
?? are you confusing things?

let's say there' one shitposter in america on an american isp
that isp gives him a random ip that can't be rangebanned every time he resets his modem

websites like 4chan are POWERLESS to stop him from resetting his router and cookies and posting again and again and again no matter how many times they ban him

Fuuuuuuck my IPv6 range is being tracked....
>accepts cookie banner
If only I could avoid being tracked...
>logs into website with account
IF ONLY, I was an AMERICAN...
>people-search website posts full name, phone number and address for free
See, in AMERICA, you can't be tracked because your IP address is dynamic
>data breach exposes SSN again

Just don't get banned. Accept that the staff of 4chan has been infiltrated over the decades by faggots and try not to become the target of their nigger faggot tranny kike wrath. 4chan is no longer the bastion of free thought and speech it was a decade ago. It's time to move on or just stop acting like it is.

sorry your third world shithole doesn't have enough ipv4 addresses lol

>>109129689
>source?
https://ipinfo.io/asn-rankings

>>109129695
So a proxy site does only need to get an Americam IP or be run by an American, then they dont have to use residential proxy providers.

What you are saying is that residential proxy providers shouldnt actually even exist.

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>>109128098
Indeed, many people rotating/sharing IPv4 is fantastic.
However, surveillance via IPv6 was too slow. So there's a hard push for online identity verification now. Kids born into it will just accept it.

>>109128175
Unfortunately many phones use IPv6. And thanks to Cloudflare being used by 25% of Internet's sites most websites support IPv6 too.

can't i just use my American Freedom to sue 4chan for banning me and infringing on my 2nd Amendment rights?

>>109129736
Yes! You can do that! Whether you win or not is a different matter.