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About time, he better never do this again.
>>109172049https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2072106151890809341
save me sam altman
>>109172066>he better never do this again.He got everything he wanted, ie. complete regulatory capture. Every LLM company now has to ask the government commission on AI (with Anthropic as an advisor) for permission to release modelsHe never even wanted to release Fable, it was his employees who wanted that. In his vision, fable-level models are only for price-gougeable government & enterprise customers, not consumers - and the goyim should be forbidden from releasing fable-level models that can compete with his
>>109172086cmon dario enable access
>>109172099ok i will, sorry
>>109172105ty appreciate that
>>109172089This is still a massive win for Sam.
>>109171959That's really cool, ive made some finetunes of smaller models but I want to try my hand at a larger one so I'll have to look into that.
New China model https://huggingface.co/meituan-longcat/LongCat-2.0Will be interesting to compare to GLM 5.2, GPT5.5, Opus 4.8, and hopefully Fable once Dario takes his thumb out of his ass and re-enables the damn model.
>>109172136
anyone here mess with devin is it any good. just tried to get it to refactor some repos but i'm confused on some of the docs it says it can do "desktop automation" what does this mean? is it able to automate testing/development on gui applications?
>>109172136is it better than fable?
>>109172086FABLE BACKFABLE BACK
>>109172158What? Fuck no, absolutely not, get away from that scam. It cannot do anything of interest that cannot be done with other freely available and superior tools. Their pricing as it folds in access to providers is SHIT and the tool they sell you is *nothing*.
>>109172136>>109172150nigga no one care fable be dominating the headlines this week
they really got to launch fable twice
>>109172171what is the best option for parallel multi-agentic stuff with desktop-level automation going beyond the terminal or ide environment then? i only just discovered this was a thing and was curious. the last time i even tried this was with claude desktop but it wasn't that good and that was a couple years ago.
>>109172150>worse than GLM-5.2 and over two weeks behindbetter luck next time, Xi
>>109172176except this time it's a neutered version of Fable 5.0 that perform far worse on evals (even though it's confirmed they internally have Mythos 5.1) and you don't get any usage via subscription. enjoy paying $600/day if you want to use it, and don't even think of doing anything even tangentially related to reverse engineering or security
>>109172172I'll give a shit about fable if they ever release the weights or at least stop safetycucking so hard. Why are you so eager to give your money, data, and dignity to a man who sees himself as your babysitter?
>>109172190because I need the power I NEED IT BADLY
>>109172184codex desktop has by far the best computer usage. it works best on Mac though unfortunately. on Windows it can't do background PC usage
>>109172189still important that they release it again so chinaman can continue to distill it.
>>109172184Claude Desktop is fine, Codex App is fine, Pi is my preference, OpenCode is good, though Pi and OpenCode are TUI, not GUI. Pi can be upgraded into whatever the fuck you want.
>>109172196>because I need the power I NEED IT BADLYDo you need it badly enough to pay $600/day lmaoI feel like a lot of teenagers here are going to, for the first time, realize how expensive it actually is to use an Anthropic model at API prices
>he still thinks he's gonna get access to Fable
>Your subscription ends in 3 daysNah, I don't think I care.
>>109172150second best logo behind the DeepSeek orca, I’ll give them that
>>109172184I switched to oh my pi fairly recently it's bretty nice
>>109172196There is only one lord of the models and he does not share power.
man, why are indians so salty about API prices? just stop being poor and set up your local rig.
>>109172229I've been considering oh my pi, mind sharing your thoughts on it so far?
Anyone try out the new sonnet yet? I am traveling and haven’t had time today to give it a few tests
>>109172265really like the advisor feature, having a second model validating the work takes a lot of the effort out of keeping the clanker in line. interface is fine, doesn't keep the pi simplicity but that comes with the feature bloat.
>>109172189that's a good thing though, letting any joe doe have access to such level of power was a terrible idea
>>109172317>that's a good thing though, letting any joe doe have access to such level of power was a terrible idea
>>109172033Didn't I tell you to remove yourself from the gene pool??
>>109172297So far it's worse than GLM5.2 but costs significantly more, which makes it pointless. It is a considerable step above old 4.6 Sonnet though. I wouldn't be surprised if it's punching in 5.4 / Opus 4.6 territory, which would put it on par with GLM-5.2 just at a higher price point.
>>109172310That's one of the most appealing features to me, something I could add to Pi admittedly but why bother if I can just try omp. Thanks, anon.
>>109172196Wasn't Fable refusing to do anything cyber security related to non in-group plebs like (You)? Any supposed amazing capabilities are nerfed by it's baked in safety sloppage
>>109172343I’m not interested in cybersecurity, thoughFable didn’t get spooked by anything I wanted to do
>>109172343wtf are you guys using it for that you run into shit like this?
>>109172317>Implying they don't see you as peasant nigger-cattle either You realize they especially look down upon you right?
>>109172348>Fable didn’t get spooked by anything I wanted to doit has an entire new set of safeguards (see "Fable-5 mitigations" strings in claude code) so enjoy it refusing you tell you how many Rs are in strawberry since that might help you build a bioweapon
>>109172343>non in-group plebsFable isnt usable by anybody for security work, unless by in-group you mean orgs on the Mythos list but technically thats a different model.
>>109172323>>109172353I have clearance, that should be the least you need to have access
>>109172363What kind? Viewing military related information? The kind of clearance you need to fuck with nuclear lunch codes? The kind for working at specific organizations? >Hur dur I havea clearance Is "my dad works at Microsoft" tier vague posting.
>>1091723631) if you have security clearances and are posting about it on 4chan, you won't have them for long2) shittons of people have security clearances and it does nothing to affect whether you get Mythos 5.1 access. a tiny number of Glasswing "partners" (paypigs) get Mythos 5.1
>>109172363Nobody cares, cope harder though.
>>109172370Reminder that GPT 5.6 Sol will be Fabe tier, but faster and much cheaper
>>109172049
>>109172376>1) if you have security clearances and are posting about it on 4chan, you won't have them for longNta. Clearance holder cuz I'm part of the military. For the love of God please stop talking like some naive newfag. To be granted a clearance worth a damn you need to be put under investigation and depending on the type they might also ask you a bunch of questions like where you've been the past 5 years, whether or not you have any relations or communication with foreign nationals, and will also ask you for multiple references, bug set references for information about you, and then also make phone calls to any friends and family members they can get a hold of. The feds do not give two shits about what sites you browse or participate on as long as you're not leaking confidential or above info. They usually don't give them out to retards unless they are government nepo babies. >t. clearance holder and chan poster for several years. Reinvestigation was semi recently. >2)Pretty much everything you said there was correct. Only a very select group of silicon valley rich fags are allowed to even say that they have access to it
>>109172370>dox yourselfNo>>109172376I'm not saying I have any special access because of my clearance, I'm saying it SHOULD be limited to people who do.>>109172378(You)
>>109172390interesting, four-leg snailcat seems better than 2-legs even though a proper snailcat has 0
>>109172413See >>109172409
>>109172413Oh come on, don’t you want to be famous like people get when they’re arguing in War Thunder forums?
>>109172413You've never used it so you have no business claiming it's half as good as cargo cultists claim to be, let alone claiming other people should have no right to use it but you apparently do.
>>109172413>I'm saying it SHOULD be limited to people who do.why would that be the case LOLyou're literally meaningless to these companies unless you can give them billions of dollars
>>109172419So we are in agreement?>>109172422lol>>109172423I'm not even talking about Mythos, I'm talking about Fable 5, which I very much did use.>>109172426I'm talking matters of national security; money comes after that.
>>109172422I'm >>109172409Having a clearance doesn't automatically mean you have access to the juicy shit. That Air Force idiot leaking that information to the discord had less to do with him having a clearance and more to do with the Air Force having beyond dog shit security (they have no business claiming they're smarter than anyone else. They're just pampered LOL)
