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>Reddit to require login to use old.reddit.com (the old bloatless site that doesn't require javascript)

https://archive.is/ScgLI
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/06/reddit-will-require-you-to-log-in-to-use-old-reddit-com/

Reddit is shit but you're required to use it to find anything on the internet these days. I've always used old Reddit to make the thing more usable, but it's going away now unless you make a Reddit account and (((log in))).

They're using the bot issue as an excuse for removing it, but how does that make sense when they're removing it for logged out users who can't post anything? They also mention scraping but they don't seem to have a problem with that if the one scraping is Google for their AI and they're getting paid for it.
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nigga reddit is dead let that shit go
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>>109172884
Do you really never click on Reddit? How do you find answers to things when jewgle only returns Reddit results and it killed forums?
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I would normally get mad over something like this, but this will drastically speed up the demise of that trashfire site so really it's a good thing in the long run. Reddit has been a really shitty influence on the internet.
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>>109172907
I read the ai summary which is just a faster way of reading the reddit posts anyway
there's no purity here we are talking about reddit posts it aint sacred
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>>109172884
The irony
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>>109172927
This, and desu, it used to be inconceivable, but if this site goes (along with maybe three others), I may simply exit the internet indefinitely. I am already reading more physical books simply because there's really nothing to read anymore and jewtube is dead.
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>>109172927
I doubt it will be any detriment to it because barely anyone uses or even knows about old reddit. It's just an annoyance to the few who still care about usability.
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>>109172949
no irony nigga this site is also dying and is probably months away from some similar move that finishes it off
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>>109172856
>bloatless
Open your fucking dev tools and look at any of the metrics it spits out. old.reddit.com is absurdly bloated for what it is. orange reddit is closer to what you're probably expecting but still bloated for what it is; hell with modern CSS orange reddit shouldn't even need any javascript whatsoever.
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>>109173084
I remember some talk at some conference sometime that I have no prayer of finding again where the man produced a flame graph or gantt chart or something that looked quite complicated and said wow look how bloated new reddit is but then revealed it was actually old reddit, lmao.
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user data has become unbelievably valuable now and they've systemically been shutting off ways of accessing it that aren't through paying them
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>>109173097
>link aggregator mad about scraping
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just use ai, most of their results are scraped from reddit anyway
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>>109173102
it is ironic when this sort of thing happens
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Ever since the permaban (my account from 2008) I got for commenting "lol" when Hillary lost reddit has been dead to me
They were super serious about it too. I'm kill-on-sight for reddit mods because I typed those three letters the evening Drumpf won
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>>109172964
i would be ecstatic to see this site have only like 1000 posts a day again. Maybe that would actually make poltards, indians, spambots leave this place alone. i just wanna talk about anime and lust after 2d girls in peace
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what have you guys been using other than reddit?
ive been using orange reddit but its kind of limited in scope
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>>109173084
Relatively speaking it is and it loads way faster than new reddit. On new reddit the comments even load in after the rest of the page and there's infinite scroll bullshit.

What is "orange reddit," hackernews? Yeah I'm sure it's less bloated but I don't use Reddit out of choice I use it out of necessity, so I'm not looking for an alternative besides I guess trying to avoid it even more than I already do.
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>>109172856
>They also mention scraping but they don't seem to have a problem with that if the one scraping is Google for their AI and they're getting paid for it.
Is that not common sense?
>Ahmmm you have a problem when someone is abusing your resources for free, but you don't when someone is paying you exorbitant amounts of money to use them... CURIOUS!
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>>109172949
Dieoff started around 2021. Interesting. I wonder what could have happened around that time.
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>>109172856
See, this wouldn't be a problem if the redesign wasn't completely unusable. Maybe they should work on that instead.
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>>109172949
>we peaked in 2013
Yeah, I know stop reminding me.
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>>109173304
Maybe they should work on un-killing the founder of reddit and off themselves instead.
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Redlib just werks
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>>109173323
I tried it but unfortunately the content it privately revealed was all putrid dogshit.
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>>109173331
The fuck are talking about?
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>>109173336
Reddit
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>>109173236
The point is this has no benefit to the end-user and they don't have an actual issue with scraping user data in itself. Retards who don't know what Reddit does might read it and think "based reddit protecting us from the AI scraping big data menace!!"
>>109173291
Looks more like after 2022 when Elon Twitter started
>>109173323
seems decent actually
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>>109172856
>they succeed in blocking robot traffic
>no ai will recommend you visit their site
And reddit finally offs xerselves!
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>>109173104
>don't use Reddit, let an AI hallucinate Reddit posts for you
Things can just get worse and worse forever with no rock bottom...
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>>109173373
Google made a deal with Reddit to scrape them for AI. They're just blocking unauthorized scrapers, if that's actually their motivation.
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They say reddit peaked at the supposedly legendary "ask a rapist" thread
I dunno I didn't use reddit back then.
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>>109173389
if you weren't around for /r/jailbait, /r/niggers, /r/fatpeoplehate yeah, reddit sucks now but it used to be a great website
sure front page always sucked but go search any reddit thread now, you can't even FIND a controversial opinion, they literally don't allow it
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>>109173384
Doesn't matter.

>be random normalfag
>asks google ai some question
>sure thing! Here's a great reddit post about it, make sure to sign up, log in and read all about it!

>be other random normalfag
>ask chatgpt, claude, grok, chinkseek, etc
>I have no clue if reddit talks about it, let me recommend some other site instead!

They're putting all their eggs in the Google basket, and idk how much money it is, but they're cutting themselves off the remaining market.
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>>109172856
To be honest, r-eddit was only useful because search engines are so bad. But if you are actually using r-eddit to find information often it's a waste of time filled with weak and time wasting posts, especially when it is about something technical. One often seen reply is like this:
>question
>answer: I don't know but I would like to know too
Yeah good riddance.
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>>109173323
I wonder if it uses old reddit to get its data
>>109173417
I don't think it was an exclusive deal with google afaik, other companies can buy data from them too.
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>>109173378
going to reddit somehow isn’t already rock bottom
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>>109173378
actually AI is super strong at regurgitating Reddit posts, it's when it needs to be truthful that it fails
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>>109173439
I don't think they're that goldmine they think they are. When it was free for other companies to scrape their data and sell it to users, it would drive traffic over. Now everyone has to pay? Eh, I don't see it.

One thing I was happy about AI eating the world was that everyone was stabilizing their public APIs instead of intentionally trying to break them, in order to not get themselves out of OpenClaw or whatever becomes the next big thing.
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>>109172856
old.reddit was the only way to bypass their vpn block
rip
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>>109172856
Everything in computing must get worse over time, it's the law
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>>109172927
any non-jeet non-karma-whoring self-respecting adult left already years ago.
but the holy quaternity of old karma whores, jeets, bots, and teenagers give that dead-internet-theory personified platform the appearance of vibrancy.
some old karma whores would use "old".
i bet most jeets use "new".
bots don't need a "user interface".
and teenagers/zoomers, the primary target group, use "the app". they don't even know "new", let alone "old".
it all went downhill after Ghislaine Maxwell went to "prison" really. she was after all the most important redditor+moderator.
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>>109173526
>it all went downhill after Ghislaine Maxwell went to "prison" really
it was shit way before that
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>>109173384
>"""unauthorized scrapers"""
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>>109173581
i liked it better when they called me "user", but i guess i'm an "unauthorized scraper" now
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>>109172856
Anything you could ever need from Reddit can be found faster by just asking some shitty LLM
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>>109172949
The drop in the last two years are bots being culled off by increasingly difficult captchas. This is a GOOD thing
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>>109173097
i wonder why they bother as a full scrape from 2024 exists
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>>109173749
yet 90% of 4chan users are bots and schizos now
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>>109172907
There is no longer any reason to use Reddit to get answers. Reddit can only answer normie questions anyway, since everything else gets censored. And Gemini and Grok can handle those kinds of questions just as well in 95% of cases.
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I only lurk the neovim subreddit because that's where people publish their plugins.
I used to browse it multiple times a day, which includes seeing their ads, but since they're trying to force logins I'm not even going to bother. They let you scroll for a few seconds before gating you.
What's the point of even hosting a public website if you don't want people to read it.
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>>109172949
Points where there is higher posts per minute has been bad every generation. It's funny that anyone left would even consider otherwise.
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>>109172949
>less retards posting frogs is................. BAD.... I must seee 10000000000 posts per second or I will go insane
internet was never meant to have 100 concurrent discussions
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>>109173749
>>109173749
The blacked threads on /pol/ stopped after the Israel/Iran war started and the jeet posted slowed down dramatically on /g/ when the captchas became too hard for rajeesh.
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>>109172949
>4chan is also dying
The entire fucking internet is dying.
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>>109173565
i know. that was just a joke because i'm always surprised about how many people don't know...
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>>109172856
why lie
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>>109172907
i honestly rarely ever found an answer on reddit, even via google

Reddit being gone wouldn't affect me in the slightest.
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>>109173366
>Looks more like after 2022
At the end of 2022 there was more activity than on the start of 2022, for both boards in that pic.
Cutting out the two CoViD years, i think the downfall starts spring to summer 2024.
But it takes a while to make a regular user go away, you really have to punish them for an extended period of time. So the turning point could have been around 2023.

Maybe the site is just unusable for newfags. If you stop attracting new people, you will slowly fizzle out. Could be a big part of it.



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