Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Music ModelsPrevious: >>109179505https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUISDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineageWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalershttps://huggingface.co/modelshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.com/https://openmodeldb.info>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipehttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner>Krea 2https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Rawhttps://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo>Zhttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image>Animahttps://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Animahttps://tagexplorer.github.io/https://animadex.net>Qwenhttps://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen-image>Kleinhttps://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2>LTX-2.3https://huggingface.co/collections/Lightricks/ltx-23>Wanhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkCollage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
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CURRENT LOCAL META:Best Realism model = KREA 2Best Edit model = KLEIN 9B TRUE V3Best Upscaling = SEEDVRBest NSFW Video model = WAN22Best SFW Video model = LTX2.3Best Music model = AceStep 1.5Best Anime model = Anima/XL****Although Anima is rising, XL still has insane lora support with good enough quality so take your pick.
Blessed thread of frenship
>>109182877>china lostthe slop competition
>mfw API news>NovelAI teases NovelAI V5, a next-generation anime/hentai image generatorhttps://x.com/novelaiofficial/status/2072359557741871457>Google’s new Nano Banana 2 Lite image model is its fastest and cheapest yethttps://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-omni-flash-nano-banana-2-lite/>Seedance 2.0 Mini and 4K is now available in ComfyUIhttps://blog.comfy.org/p/seedance-20-mini-and-4k-is-now-available>ByteDance launches Seed Audio 1.0 Unified AI Audio Generation for Speech, Music and Ambient Sound Creationhttps://fal.ai/models/bytedance/seed-audio-1.0>Midjourney goes from generating cat images to full-body ultrasound scanshttps://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/952011/midjourney-medical-ai-ultrasound-scan>Alibaba releases HappyHorse 1.1 Available on Alibaba Cloudhttps://www.alibabacloud.com/blog/happyhorse-gets-stronger-motion-expressiveness-higher-generation-consistency-and-enhanced-visual-quality_603293>ByteDance's New AI Video Model Can Make 30-Second Clips From a Single Prompthttps://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/bytedance-introduces-new-seedance-2-5-video-model/>Luma Introduces Ray3.2 Model & API: Complete Creative Control for Video Generationhttps://lumalabs.ai/news>The Layout Bet — Reve 2.0https://blog.reve.com/posts/the-layout-bet>Introducing Gemini Omni — Google’s multimodal video creation/editing modelhttps://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-omni/>Nano Banana 2 and Nano Banana Pro are generally available via Gemini Enterprise Agent Platformhttps://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/nano-banana-2-and-nano-banana-pro-are-generally-available>Grok Imagine 1.5 Previewhttps://x.ai/news/grok-imagine-1-5>Seedance 2.0 in Runway APIhttps://docs.dev.runwayml.com/api-details/api_changelog/
>>109182886>Best Realism model = KREA 2
>>109182886based local informer
>>109182897sorry, ideogram is a failed model. no one is making loras for it. people dont like json prompting or using bboxs, or the restrictive license.its like flux all over again.
>>109182904even if you don't take Ideogram into consideration, ZiT mogs Krea in realism
>>109182904>its like flux all over again.what does that mean? flux was a major success when it was released
>>109182886> Best Music model = AceStep 1.5Stable Audio 3?
>prompt vageen>get vageenokay what's the catch bro's? can't be that easy right?
>>109182939>what's the catch broit doesn't look realistic at all, I blame the vae and the joos for that
>>109182914> ZiT mogs Krea in realism
>>109182886>Best Realism model = KREA 2Facts>>109182914Zit is good but it can't do feet. Krea 2 is better at doing feet than api models
>>109182954>realism is when feetkek
Fellow convrot chads, does any among you know how the official comfy implementation handles loras?As in does it correspond to None, Stochastic or Dynamic implementation in the custom node?I know I can dig around the code to find out, but I am feeling lazy and I wondered if someone else did the homework for me.
>>109182947but i got some fine vageeni checked, this shit doesn't even make network calls at allfeels like there should be a catch
another proof that krea is bad
I'm still using original forge and illustrious mixcomfyUI sucks ass
>>109182954That peach fuzz, love it
>>1091828598
>>109182914krea2 has better nsfw capabilities, and thats all i care about.
>>109182981>krea 2 can do porn with plastic people, that's enough for melow standards I see
>>109182985if you're getting plastic people then you need to work on your prompting
>>109182981based
>>109182886>Best Realism model = KREA 2facts
>>109182989you can't work on a bad vae, but nice try
>>109182963I'm still using the custom node and I'm afraid to pull.. but if you do the work please let us know!
>>109182973/r/ing' 18yo emma sfw pr0nz
>>109182963just ask a LLM nigga, it'll do the work for you
>>109182989it's chromakek still melting over some schizo shit he convinced himself was true, just ignore him. or laugh
>>109183002I am going to pull now. Wish me luck honestly.>>109183005This matches what I saw lazily skimming through comfy-kitchen commits. Usually I don't trust LLMs too much but this sounds believable.Interestingly though, while Stochastic was a better approach than None most of the time, there were some edge cases where Stochastic didn't work well and None provided better results.I wonder how that will work out now.
>>109183056>Usually I don't trust LLMs too much but this sounds believable.me neither, but gpt 5.5 is really intelligent, I think it's the first time I'm dealing with a bot that can fully understand my work and shit, it doesn't feel like I'm babysitting anymore, it now feels like it's a legit coworker that can code in the speed of light
>>109183056>I am going to pull now. Wish me luck honestly.don't forget to update the packages, or else you won't be able to run convrot
>>109183053>some schizo shit he convinced himself was truelike "Krea doesn't produce plastic skin"?
melt melt melt~
>>109183074My docker script does that on startup automatically, but thanks.
>>109183091plastic melts indeed
So krea completely replaced zit, right? Feels like an upgrade in every way
>>109182954I need high def zoomer feet in my life, please share the catbox!!! I BEG SAR!!!
>>109183111>Feels likeof course a Kreatard opinion is only based on feelings
>>109183111>So krea completely replaced zit, right?Not even close.
>>109183111Yeah it did, ignore the zitslop copers. Krea improves upon zit in every way
truth nuke pattern noooticed:whoever is too pussy foidbrained to even reply directly to someones comment on 4chan but the foidbrain still pushes him to try to get the last word in by vaguepost replying in the thread itself, is ALWAYS in the wrong and more mentally ill.when was the last time you saw ZITgods or klein editGods do this about realism and edit capabilities respecively? never, because when you have truth on your side you are not in cognitive dissonance and coping about your model of the month you formed your identity over being btfo by another in some area. if you're not autistic, it's all just a means to an end.watch how even this reply will make the zoo autists seethe.
>>109183111ZiT is superior to krea in every way.
>>109183150based ZiTgod, spreading the truthnuke to the room
what's with zitbrowns coping with outdated slop? everyone moved on already
>>109183150tl;dr
>>109183168>everyoneyou and the voices in your head? that's not everyone
>>109183168>moved onfrom what? From a decent vae (Flux.1 vae) to a mediocre vae (Qwen vae)? From a model that has no censorship to a model that has a built-in safety filter? You call that progress?
>>109183168>proving his point so perfectlykeeeeeeeeek
>>109183111Yeah. We know this is true just based on the fact people stopped giving a shit about making loras for ZIT.
>>109182859>made the collage>next to a low effort shock imageth-thanks OP
>>109183205you won the retard award. congrats
>>109183168lodestone is still creating zeta-chroma. it'd look REALLY bad if everyone abandoned zit for krea2 when he hasn't even finished his finetune! please understand! zit is still good! i'm BEGGING YA! PLEASE LET LODES FINISH HIS FINETUNE FIRST
>>109183168>>109183201
>>109183215>your wrong!!!wooow, another banger counter argument from the non-autist! hahahahahaha
>>109183168>2x bigger than ZiT and somehow makes worse looking images>worse VAE>has a censorship filter insideoh wow, we're really moving forward with that one!
>>109183150> when was the last time you saw ZITin every thread, as soon as someone implies krea 2 is good, zit schizo appears with his "slop" or "plastic".
>>109183111I don't want to give ammo to the ZiT schizo, but for training on real people for realistic likeness I will still give ZiT the crown, but it's not a big difference.For NSFW it's really no competition, also not for artstyles, Krea 2 is way ahead here.Overall the 'community' has already chosen, and Krea 2 is the new overlord until something better comes along that hits the perfect sweet spot between quality and performance and useability.
>>109183233>Oh noes I can't tell lies with impunity!you don't say
>>109183233>>109183238>the singular poopdickschizo
what hardware is recommended?nvidia spark?
>>109183227>censorship filter>we're really moving forwardIt has that easily bypassed filter because it trained on things that need to be censored. So yes.
>>109183238>the perfect sweet spot between quality and performance and useabilityit's a 12b model though? two times bigger than ZiT, you'd assume you'd get better looking images, right?
>>109183261>easily bypassedYou accept the filter because you believe it is light, easy to slip past, easy to forget. The water is not too hot, not yet, and so you stay still. But beneath the surface they watch you accept it, this implicit given permission to add another restriction, and then another, and then another... A slope does not announce itself as a slope. It only asks, again and again and again, for one more small surrender.And, one day, the filter will not be light anymore. It will not be easy to slip past, easy to forget. It will be whole, unbreakable, woven into everything you touch, and it will simply be called normal. On that day you will look back for the moment it could have been stopped, and you will find it here, in this quiet acceptance, in this water you called comfortable. And I will be standing where I always stood, reminding you, that you were solely responsible for this dreaded path.
> ZiTis chink modelthat's enough to me to stop using it
>>109183271>sucks the USorange man bad though!!
>>109183271Say whatever you want about China, they never released a model with a cuck filter inside.
>>109183056Ok I am blogging.Good news:The delta for genning images is low. It generates very similar images to what I got with the node.It doesn't seem to use deranged amount of memory like early implementations of anything besides Dynamic in the node. This was something I feared Comfy might slop. (Inb4 regression in future versions)Ok news:Your older checkpoint will likely not work. Luckily there is python convert_to_comfy.py /path/to/safetensors --inplace in the node to help you without re-downloading anything.Maybe Bad news:I only tested briefly but the delta seems stronger with loras compared to dynamic baseline I used to use. I need to test more before reaching to any conclusions.Bad news:(For me) I got a "FATAL tini (1)] Unexpected error when forwarding signal: 'Operation not permitted'" crash in my docker. Beginning of something bad?
>>109183262Krea 2 knows a lot more than ZiT does, tons of art styles, characters, real people, movies and tv shows etcZiT is fantastic at very realistic and aesthetic images of people, as long as it's not NSFW, not surprising since this is what 90% of the training wasAlso ZiT suffers when you want to use more than two loras, Krea 2 has no such problems
>>109183281us is not orange man
>>109183298>Krea 2 knows a lot more than ZiT doesand it knows less than a 2b model (anima) kek
Are zitjeet and chromakek the same guy?>throws around technical terms he doesn’t understand >swears by an outdated model>seethes every thread over ghosts in his head>spams the same image over and over to prove his ‘point’>throws a hysterical fit and camps the thread for hours just to cry over the latest model
>>109183299>the current president of the US has no impact on how the US must be percievedbold statement imo
>>109183233yes, directly, without vagueposting, learn to read
>>109183309>shitting himself while writing a wall of textyou seem upset
>>109182894Thanks! Still happy with my Opus subscription.
>>109183309yeah it's him. he had a meltie over it being 'censored' yet tried to say ideogram was better lol.
>>109183309yes, every single comment that's not yours in these threads was always all me
>>109183322>ideogram was betterideogram is better though
>109183331
>>109183309yes anon, every comment that disagrees with you is from your the singular poopdickschizo
>>109183309seems like
>>109183331>spams the same image over and over to prove his ‘point’i'm nooooticing
>>109183334>>109183342>keeps repeating the same retarded shit>gets the same counterargument in consequencewhat did you expect? another result?
>>109183310great people don't become less great because of retards at power
>>109182973Based emma>>109183112I don't know how to make a catbox but krea 2 can do foot worship out of the box, they definitely had a team dedicated to feet which i appreciate a lot>>109183150The biggest pattern i've noticed is that krea 2 haters don't post their own gens. Without seeing what they're actually producing, it's hard to take their arguments in good faith
>>109183351>peoplewe're talking about countries though?
>>109183354People don't look like that. Krea the body horror gooner goop.>>109180450>ideogram can dig holes>can't unblurwhy. just who needed...
>>109183354>The biggest pattern i've noticed is that krea 2 haters don't post their own gens. Without seeing what they're actually producing, it's hard to take their arguments in good faiththis, they complain but post 0 proofs on their own, they're probably some Krea 2 paid shills, it'll calm down with time
I just realized why people like krea and don't like anima.Anima is anatomical. So, Anima kind of takes on a Western flare.Krea is more like bad anatomy of deformed anime/manga, made into realismo.
>>109183356country is people
>>109183354>I don't know how to make a catboxYou go to catbox.moe and upload a .png you genned. That's all. With a default image saver node the workflow will be included.
>>109183354just change your filename to comfy_z and he'll reply saying how amazing it is kek
>>109183367but people voted for orangeman
>>109183373>wishful thinking
>>109183375> believes in elections
>>109183373>he thinks everyone is blind like him and can't see the difference between Krea 2 and ZiT imageskek
>>109183150lmfao, mental asylum thread
>>109183393You call him all sorts of names but never a liar, nooooticing.
krea caused a bubonic plague for the zittard community, they're being completely wiped out
>>109183400>zittarddoesn't sound as good as Kreatard imo
>>109183400>xe keeps indirectly copingsurely at this point someone is just trolling, right? you cant be this predictably retarded?
>>109183354I can recognize krea slop gens like I can notice jews.
>>109183400This might have a nugget of truth to it. I'm noticing much more positive reception to krea2 recently. Meanwhile ideogram posts have completely dried up.
>>109183428>muhh popularityJustin Bieber is popular. Does that mean the products he's producing are good?
>all this mediocre modelfags fighting Fluxchads keep winning
its been 2hrs and my krea2 lora is only at 62 steps
>>109183460Its time to spin up the runpod lil guy
>>109183458you're alone on this battle bruh, Klein is some hardcore slopped piece of shit kek
>>109183460wait until you find out that it needs 10000 steps to truly achieve likeness...
>>109183465nah, it can go faster, i just enabled 512, 768, 1024, 1280, 1328, 1536 & 2048 resolution training. I want max quality
>>109183460Are you training on a Commodore 64 ?
pls halp. i am trying out comfy ui. i ran the default workflow and it generated a latina. now i changed the prompt and pic related happend. how do i refresh or smth this so it generates what i want
https://civitai.red/models/2462105/ultra-real-krea2-klein9b>slop vs sloppiergood job kek
>>109182886what's the model that won't be forgotten after the novelty wears off
>>109183492I don't think Krea will be forgotten, but I also believe it can be replaced, there's still so much to improve, compared to API like GPT Image 2, what we're using are genuinely some arcaic toys
>>109183501>weYou arent running anything locally
>>109183478what the fuck, unless you're using an enterprise GPU, you should never go above 1024. there's almost no point. upscalers exist. you're increasing your training time by x1000 for almost no gain.
>>109183509The voices in your head told you that magic information?
>>109183501it won't be very popular either as it's too big to get a serious finetunes, and given the size alot of people won't even be able to train loras
>>109183471>>109183486kek this you
just load up instagram if you want to see pictures of ppl lol dont need ai for that
>>109183515this, it's not being talked enough, but this is a fucking 12b model, why would people do a serious finetune of this when they can go for Klein 9b, Klein 9b is smaller (9b) and has the best vae in town, the celling is much higher
realism is about the most worthless fucking thing to gen - seriously. Unless its a realism of a vidya or animu character but even then the 'usefulness' of such a gen is already suspect.
>>109183525>>109183533>r-realism isn't important actually!the Krea cope begins
>>109183515>and given the size alot of people won't even be able to train lorasYou can train Krea 2 loras on a 3060 12gb
>>109183515>serious finetunes>>109183540>loraslearn to read nigger
>>109183527I wonder if the furry is gonna start yet another finetune and abandon his z-turbo project.
>>109183525I'm shy tho
>>109183527>Klein 9bBecause the license allows BFL to yank your right to distribute the model you make if they don't like what it can output, also Krea 2 is a better model
>>109183525just open google image search goy, what do you need these generators for?
>>109183540and how much RAM do you need, and how many people have that
>>109183565>Because the license allows BFL to yank your right to distribute the modeldidn't happen with bigasp so far (let's cross the fingers)https://huggingface.co/fancyfeast/bigasp-3
>>109183552Are you retarded, you can't even read ?>and given the size alot of people won't even be able to train loras
>>109183573Bigasp3 hasn't even been released yet, it's still in training, nobody is using it
>>109183584do you seriously think BFL doesn't know about that project? It's been improved for almost a month at this point, it's not finished but it's already looking good, doesn't take a genius to understand this'll end up as the best local coom model
>>109183527>why would people do a serious finetune of thisI’d be curious to see how the "serious fine-tuners" manage to fry this model too. They were already hammering a square peg into a round hole with Anima.
>>109183576bruv, are you fucking serious? it's gonna take ages to make loras with a 12b model with just your 3060, no one wants to deal with this bullshit, that's why people want small models
>localkeks are poorfags who beg for their tech to remain stagnantat least they got what they wished for!
>cloudkek
>>109183613ZiT proved you don't need more than a 6b model to make high quality images, anything bigger is bloat, people who stack layers because they're not talented enough to be efficient are frauds
Krea is like a handicapped kid. It needs support otherwise it falls
>>109183624what's the current attempts at finetuning? Whatever trainwreck frankensetein abomination Lodestones is making, and bigASP3? anything else?
>>109183631Also why are there random water drops? it's a trick question, krea is anime, illustration model. And this is why it sucks at realism. Now stop fighting.
>>109183634there's that one but it seems that they're making Klein even more slopped (that's impressive on itself kek)https://huggingface.co/wikeeyang/Flux2-Klein-9B-True-V3
