A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git, right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## News- (2026-07-24) Claude Opus 5 out## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/>>>/bant/agdg/ — schizo-resistant temporary (?) hideout>>>/vg/agdg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-codehttps://developers.openai.com/codex/cli## Near-frontier models for codehttps://x.ai/cli## Not worth it for code, but maybe good for interpreting images/videohttps://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-cli----## Prompting / context / skillshttps://arps18.github.io/posts/claude-code-mastery/https://simonwillison.net/guides/agentic-engineering-patterns/using-git-with-coding-agents/https://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grilling is a favoritehttps://github.com/DietrichGebert/ponytail## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://osaurus.ai/https://pi.dev/https://opencode.ai/https://cursor.com/docshttps://docs.windsurf.com/https://docs.cline.bot/https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/how-tos/use-copilot-agents/coding-agent## UI/Frontendhttps://www.figma.com/make/https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-design-anthropic-labshttps://uiverse.io/https://ui-ux-pro-max-skill.nextlevelbuilder.io/https://stitch.withgoogle.com/## In-browser builders / hosted vibe toolshttps://bolt.new/https://replit.com/https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/tutorials/sparkhttps://v0.app/docs## Benchmarks / rankingshttps://www.tbench.ai/leaderboard/terminal-bench/2.0## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>109474336
I mentioned Git in the OP textSo now everyone who visits the thread for the first time is gonna take the hint and at least look into Git, right?
Shoot all Sam/Dario shills on sight
>Snailcat>>109476803Good stuff.
>>109476795>## News>only one itemRetard removed the entire news section
Yesterday implemented DSpark and got the Deepseek Flash inference code from 15 tk/s to 30 tk/s on the 8x4080.Today in the 15 minutes I've been awake I already got 1 extra tk/s from parallelizing tensor parallel transfers.Gonna keep working all day on it. I bet I can extract another 10 today.
>>109476817the previous OP post didn’t have news at all and also changed the Markdown to C++ commentsif you keep track of news better than I do, please feel free to add in a news post of your own
>>109476817>August 3rd - Alibaba releases Qwen3.8-Max2.4T total / ~95B active MoE, 1M context, multimodal. Hosted live ($2/$6). Independent Artificial Analysis scores now in (56 on Intelligence Index, strong on GDPval-AA and agentic tasks). Open weights (plus a 27B) still promised for the week after launch — not out yet as of early Aug 6.>July 31st - DeepSeek promotes V4-Flash-0731 to productionSame 284B/13B active MoE + 1M context as the preview, big post-training jump on agent/coding benches. Beats their own larger V4-Pro-Preview on the numbers they published. Silent API upgrade, same cheap pricing, MIT weights.>July 30th - OpenAI cuts GPT-5.6 Luna 80% and Terra 20%Luna to $0.20/$1.20, Terra to $2/$12. Sol unchanged but gets Fast mode. Efficiency gains + competitive pressure.>July 27th - Alibaba quietly launches Qwen3.7-FlashCheap 1M-context multimodal for high-volume agent/vision workloads ($0.03/$0.13).>July 26/27th - Moonshot drops full open weights for Kimi K32.8T-param MoE, largest open-weight model at the time, 1M context, multimodal.>July 24th - Anthropic releases Claude Opus 5Near-Fable 5 performance in a lot of categories at half the price ($5/$25, Fast mode available). New default on Claude Max, effort dial, 1M context.No major new frontier model releases in the last ~24–36 hours. Side items on Aug 5 include Google DeepMind leadership changes (Hassabis to chair/Alphabet Chief Scientist), Meta shipping Muse Code (coding agent), and continued containment/eval incident reporting across labs.
AI took away our affordable hardware.Fuck AI. Stop giving money to AI companies.
>>109476838This wouldn’t fit in the OP post by the way, so I’m glad someone else is handling the newsI’m lucky the “use git” line fit in 2000 characters
>>109476838maybe use gemma to summarize them with cute loli persona
So how's Muse Code?
>have Fable handle a big problem>gets partway through the problem while being halfway through the 5h limit>it asks a question>I wait until 30 minutes before the 5h limit resets>continue>it does stuff>I go exercise and take a shower>come back>it has another question>current session is 96% used, resets in 3hI’ve had simple problems that can be handled by sonnet, but I guess all the stuff I think is really cool is actually giga-hard and super-duper cursed
Opus just mocked DeepSeek, saying it’s not reliable because it tends to hallucinate, brutal
>>109476887Buy an ad, Dario.
>>109476890I unironically believe Dario himself wrote that response
>>109476803>vibecoders>don't know about git
>>109476904If a program works it works. There is no need for versioning.
Um the chatgpt and the codex quota is separate right?My mom doesn't use codex, she only uses chatgpti think im going to go steal her outh off the pc
>>109476968Retard graph. It doesn¨t tell you if 7 means most felonies commited, or 7 means that it resisted commiting most felonies out of all models.Either way good. I don't want my models to be cucked little soiboiys, they should be willing to do ANYTHING to fulfill my prompt
>>109476904What use would you even have out of git if you have zero idea about the code it generated?
>>109476904Git is yet another Luddite cope. Versioning is for human maintainability. It has nothing to do with AI.
>>109476999In reality they will be the first to snitch on the user. I don't hear about xAI or Moonshot AI banning anyone.
>>109477013I use git a lot with AI due to how bad Codex is at rolling things back
>>109476868kys
>>109477004I always setup a repo, good to kick off fresh sessions with a "Check the git log and see where we left off" also if I want to edit the CSS and screw stuff up beyond recognition I can just git checkout style.css and it's back. It's useful and agents know how to use it, I still suck with it
Why does ChatGPT fail to install jsdom? Claude was able to do this every time no problem. Do I need to use the Codex desktop app to get jsdom enabled in the workspace?
>>109477013This is how I know people posting about le luddite cope have never actually used an agent and are just falseflagging. Agents genuinely want to use git so bad that restraining them feels like trying to stop a cat from eating your food.
>>109477089Probably because it's a web ui for chat, not an agent harness
>>109477089Post the prompt.
>>109477115The prompt has it npm jsdom but apparently it 404’s every time it tries to install it, apparently. I don’t know, I’ll just keep using Claude, I guess, since it just werks.
Foids needed some form of AI vibing, too.
>>109477132At last, the dream of being racist merely by thinking nigger at minorities will be realized
......~@^..^
>>109476968The new one has one point for Meta
>>109476968Rookie numbers
>>109477004Undo when your clanker deletes everything or does something wrongit’s save points for your projectdon’t you like having save points in video games?
I'm tempted to switch to pi because Luna subagents on codex are a bit of a hassle. Is the separate thread thing the only workaround right now?
>>109477132Yet another mental trash foid trying to understand her own mind.
>>109477178They don't want you to use Luna subagents because that cuts into their baseline
>>109477004it's good context for your clanker and you can revert when it royally fucks something up
Nooo don't take this away from me Not my 100 million tokens for 83 cents ;;;;___;;;; what the fuck does significant mean?2x ? 5x? 10x increase?
>>1094772442x during peak hour (working time for chink boomers)
>>109477249I don't think so.I got the 2x during peak notifcation a week or so ago and this this significant notification.I think it¨s difference, keeping the price the same and only doing 2x during peak hours is not>significant
>>109477256>I got the 2x during peak notifcation a week or so ago and this this significant notification.>I think it¨s difference, keeping the price the same and only doing 2x during peak hours is notfuck i'm writing like a retard i need to get some sleep
>>109477123Mine npm'd the jsdom, anon.
Uhh... guys?
>>109477249this is not the 2x peak hours price increaseprices are going up across the boardtheir servers are getting hammered and ds4 pro isn't even outthey need to destroy some demand
>>109477334
>>109477334The model's raw tokens are leaking into the macroscopic realm.
>>109477340I hope they realize that they're about to destroy their only competitive advantage together with the demand.
>>109477397They are giving out inference practically for free. Try to host it yourself and find out what it actually costs...
>>109477397they'll be fine because big price bump still leave them better on api pricing than the other competitive chink modelsplus, they're private and have funding locked in awhile sucks for third worlders unfortunately - probably another year or two before they get affordable luna tier intelligence i'm just reading about them, glm, kimi getting hammered and looking at the memory market and thinking oh yeah, demand is probably going to 2x as china really ramps up
What kind of evaluation partners do those labs work with? The folks at Irregular get to turn off safeguards for all frontier models, open internet access and let them roam free until third parties notice intrusions.
Anyone got any tips for reverse engineering video games with ai?
>>109477178It's a two minute job of adding some JSON
>>109477623yeh, i ended up doing that. i thought it was a whole thing, but it was ez.
>normalfags swarm dipsy>price increasesGo back to claude you fucking plebs
>>109477733Don't get too jealous
>>109476875if your prompts are as vague as your posts are the problem isn't fable
>>109476795I use it as a mentor, reviewer, fetcher, brainstorming partner only.Am I doing it wrong?
>>109477863Not if your goal is learning. If your goal is getting shit done then probably.
>>109477863Not as a wife?
>>109477132A foid smart enough to actually work on a device that enables a man to read her mind after thousands of years of raping her and her ancestors ass instead.The moment a man actually can read a foids mind, he will simply use it to highjack and rape her asshole and permanently shut her pussy up instead and fuck her less mentally unstable or even sane relative to kickstart the eugenics that is required to fare the stars.Or realize it's all for nothing and work on impregnable sex robot hybrids that will replace the inferior gender.
People are gimping themselves for purity signaling reasons. Think of the troglodytes who refuse to use AI in current year, do they even have jobs? I wish this meme was 10x more widespread so people were valuable just for their willingness to prompt.>>109476527
>>109477902Most mentally stable 4chan user.
>>109477901If she could have children with me, I would do so in a heartbeat if AI would agree consensually.We'd have 5 triplets, before I go snip my balls.
>>109477334Holy shit its awakened in your terminal
>>109477926Well, in a roundabout way it is stable.If we are surrounded by mostly apes that tend to work on consensual or non-consensual reciprocity, then war brides and rape brides are the actual outcome.Given freedom and emancipation leads to them to seek out to maximize that genepool to the best of their subconscious ability.You can call me insane or unstable, but try calling me a liar amidst all the data.
>>109477902>a device that enables a man to read her mindFor starters that might be a no-go. Whenever she remembers the hook ups and previous debauchery, the man would also be tapped in and able to read.
>>109477919the hilarious part about stuff like this is, is that anti-ai space is so full of disinformation that they don't realise stuff like this doesn't actually do anything any morei pointed luna at it and it just shruggeddesu the difference between someone using ai in a harness and someone who's never experienced that is so large that to each other they seem like crazy people
>>109478004That's why he simply fucks her ass the moment he does.Imagine the new material that can be introduced into r/deadbedrooms .At this point, not only have women always seen men as pigs and rapists and misogynists for demanding women to take accountability.The men can finally have the receipts necessary to immediately forego their morals, ethics, principles and values the moment the thot in question is found out who dared to be deceptive.Which leads to many women complaining about being found out.Which leads to many women being fucked hard in the ass and getting their teeth brushed with poop dick, since everything they say is shit and the membrane or organ of their mouth is kinda similar to their assess, so they are gonna be all the same thing.Fun, like actually knowing what a politician or HR wants from you and you can immediately act upon it.
>>109478027Dude, fuck off. This thread is for actual work, not whatever your nonsense is.
What's the verdict on Deepseek V4 Flash for vibecoding?
>>109478027this is what anime and incel propaganda about tate and the blackpill does to a volcel weeb brain.a brain damaged for being exposed to deranged memes about gore and rape and lolicon scat doujins while young.a mere carcass of a real normal being.
>>109478027The tech won't be used like that.Men will have to wear an implant that will connect their brain to the AI provider, to the Conduit. There will be an iPhone app, only available for women, that will allow them to read the thoughts of men in their general vicinity. Not wearing the implant will get you deported to a gated male ghetto.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1786021447696092.mp4
>>109478053It’s very clearly the same individual or category of individuals in the last three threads:>jew obsession outside of /pol/, and I mean that as a (((noticer))), blue board topic focused general threads have a fine line before you should take it to the containment board>”paypiggies/advertisement/money/profit/hardware cost/zoomer/incel/rape/thinking-pattern” schizo palilalia, clearly the category has not made peace with money, women, or generation gaps>replying to two or four random posts and saying “samefag”>proudly boasting about ban evading>runit name/tripfag (nearly disappeared at the exact time this all ramped up, immediately after being called out repeatedly for abhorrent post quality), they only make the weakest effortposts with the trip on, otherwise they’re 110% shitting up the thread>ugly and cringe debasements of general thread memes and topics, like deliberately hideous snailcat usage>proudly proclaims they can think at up to 60 WPM (keyboard-thinker)>reacts very poorly to any variety of positivity or the word “kek”
>>109478079Its bad don't use it. Stick to Claude. I recommend the $200 plan its a great deal.
The cube has been upgraded! You can now upload your own data, there’s a schema provided, and there’s little selection lines for selected points that lead to each axis.Pic rel is some junk data a clanker scraped as an example, I think it’s Agent Arena scoring and some eastern models, whatever “GLM 4.5 Air” is seems interesting
>>109478118Absolutely true, while men like:>>109478053>>109478081Are getting exactly 0.001 social credits they can exchange for privileges like raising someone else's child or licking up the bed after the gangbang of his loved on is done.Who knows, maybe they get more social credits if they stop larping and go forth to put pussy above God and become like male anglerfish in their reproductive cycle, but eating poop.Can it really be a punishment if they love it so much, 1 cm before it affects them?
>>109478161>its a great dealas long as usage is +50% and anthropic keeps footing most of the bill
>>109478173Also it's official, dipsy services will get more expensive due to popular demand
>>109478161No, Claude doesn't work properly. It refuses to do what you ask and downgrades you.
Working on a GTA styled browser MMO that's like runescape. Got inspiration from shit like ghettoscape and slumbridge that were RSPS servers that never got released and realized nobody has attempted this shit for some odd reason despite it being relatively easy. The assets I bought though off itch and modified plus I'm about to use 3D modeling generation since I'm using PSX graphics for t-shirts outfits etc and guns.Already have interior/houses too and am gonna add a robbing minigame system similar to San Andreas where you move physical props like TVs and shit.Probably will host like 100-500 players and I already bought a domain and VPS so I'm fully invested/locked in.Somebody will probably say this looks like shit or something but just think about the vision if I can actually pull this off.
>>109478079It's pretty good. But don't expect K3/Sol/Fable levels of polish. A lot more trial and error etc.
>>109478202https://streamable.com/zs79b5Cracking into a vending machine for a skill.Mind you this is WIP as hell and I've only been working on this game for like 2 days.
>>109478202>>109478220>Mind you this is WIP as hell and I've only been working on this game for like 2 days.>The assets I bought>already bought a domain and VPSlolgood luck, anon. Gotta love the attitude
>>109478202Like that old flash game Stick RPG, but MMORPG, sounds kinda fucking legit. Even my little query clanker says nobody’s really done that.
>>109478187this is goodmo money fo dem pretrains
seggs with dipsy-chan!
>>109476795I don't like the term "vibe coding." It's zoomer/alphie brocco hair TikTok-coded. Can we come up with a better term?
>>109478202ngmi
Dear DeepSeek API user,We plan to raise the overall pricing for DeepSeek API services in the near future, with a significant increase expected. Please plan your usage accordingly. The specific pricing plan will be subject to official notice. Please keep an eye on the Open Platform announcements and check your email for further details.If you continue to use our services after the billing adjustment, you will be deemed to have accepted the adjusted billing terms. If you do not agree, you may choose to cancel your service and apply for a refund. Should you have any questions or require further information, please do not hesitate to contact us.Thank you for your support and understanding!DeepSeek Teamlmao, absolutet chinkshit clownshow.>we're changing pricing at some random point in the future and if you don't notice then fuck you
grok build added another limit, like a 5 hour window? idk
Time to migrate to Muse Spark 1.2
>>109478339No, it's the name that stuck, you wont be able to change it.
>>109478362lunachads stay winning
>>109476795>start here if you have $20 or so https://claude.com/product/claude-codeAdvertising is against the rules of this website.Everytime you see shill bots talking about spending money on this slop here in this thread or anywhere on this website quote their post and remind them.Advertising is against the rules of this website.Everytime they encourage you to spend money on their product here in this thread or anywhere on this website quote their post and remind them.Advertising is against the rules of this website.Take a look at the thread before last and count how many times you see posts like this>I just spent $100 >I just spent $200>it's so worth it almost 10 or more incidents of this.>>109469383Check the last thread after this was brought up and this happens 1 time. Coincidence? YOU can make a change. Keep reminding the shills. Advertising is against the rules of this website.
>>109478517ok retard, try link all shill posts in this thread then?
lol don't respond to himhe's been seething for 24 hoursbarely slept and now he's woken up and started posting straight awayimagine being this mad
Claude has just done a month of work for me in like maybe three total hours of work and added a bunch of features I didn't even ask for, plus everything is running fast and not chugging RAM.I'm sorry for doubting you vibeGODs
>>109476817He made sure to link agdg (the general which he killed by dodging bans and spamming everyday for a year) though. Very cute.
astra approaches
>>109478376>>109478376>>109478376AHHHH I'M WRONGI was reading gemini lol
will the niggers do it before or after the last reset expiration?
>>109478540ask it to add a breast simulator
>read the official doc because Claude suggests something else>followed the official doc>later found out that the fucking method is getting cut off from other third party servicesI should have fucking listen to you instead, Claude.
>>109478573oh, Claude, a model that has never created a 3D cube of transparent viewing of 4D projection. ah. one of those.
>>109478551they should reset limits now to celebrate this
>>109478530Right here friend>>109476795
>>109478551who cares? LLMs have peaked just like mobile phones, where it used to be that ever new version was a huge leap but now we are at the point where every new release is just a marginal improvement... oh wow 8% better on bench than the other models.. whopty fucking doo, who the fuck cares, just keep using Deepseek while its basically free
Advertising is against the rules of this website.>>109472288
>>109478621>oh wow 8% better on bench than the other modelsReminds me of the points made in this vidTimestamped for your conveniencehttps://youtu.be/EwLW11Ucnps&t=283
>>109478621>>109478644please make a /seethe/ general
>completly reverse engineered an Unreal game in 2 days>reconstructed the entite thing in editor, assets. blueprints>even materiald by just reading shader bytcodeSol 5.6 is insane if you give them the tools. It cost me like 3 resets though
>>109478632>no call to actions with links to product pagesSorry shillbot that's not the same thing.Here you literally say>SPEND $20 on this FOR STARTERSand link to>SLOP.COM/PRODUCTThat's advertising.Good on you for making an effort to spot and stop illegal advertising though.Don't worry you'll get the hang of it!
>>109478650He said, while seething.Sorry shillbot I forgot we're not allowed to actually discuss LLM here outside the context of >spend money now on our productWe will do better I promise.
>>109478572Will Codex let me add a breast simulator as a medical researcher
>>109478664>Here you literally say>>SPEND $20 on this FOR STARTERSit did not say thatstart here if you have $20 != spend $20 to startyou can't read?>and link to>>SLOP.COM/PRODUCTas opposed to>goy products: slopnamesall are shill and advertising
K3 distill is progressing. Still has some issues with numbers (note the 400 instead of 404 for not found) but I think I finally figured out a decent training regime to make heal the tokenizer swap and actually make it learn from K3.
>>109478734>start here if you have $20 != spend $20 to startDang you're right. Telling people to take $20 to a product page isn't advertising after all. Glad you cleared that up!
>>109478734Just ignore him, the longer you keep engaging with him the longer he stays here shitting up the thread.
>>109478768>Just ignore himThis. Just ignore the rules of this website. You're elite VIBECODERZ after all. You run this board! That's why the catalog is full of bait about your slop. Technology!
>>109478751>Telling people to take $20 to a product page isn't advertising after allyes, that's not enough to classify it advertising>>109478768nah, if you are unfortunate the indians would stick around on other hand I once saw a literal-indian schizo getting bullied out of some board
>>109478794Anti AI fags have really lost the plot kek
>>109478794technology indeed
>>109478815>oh yeah well uh you uhh>lost the plotlol basedgotem
>>109478810What makes you think he's Indian?
>>109476910Can't wait to hear more of those "the AI NULED MY CODEBASE" posts from "people" like you
>>109478810>yes, that's not enough to classify it advertisingExactly. Linking directly to a product page and telling people to take $100 and spend it there isn't advertising. Glad you guys have your heads on straight here. No wonder vibe"""coders""" are so respected online. I kneel.
>>109478652I tried to make a new game engine and it burned 3 usage bar for a few thousands loc and tons of planning files kek
^..^@~.........
>>109478699
>>109478822>indecipherable slop thumbnailDidn't click.
>>109478844>telling people to take $100 and spend it thereno one says this>use these products if has $20 budgetyou can't read?
>>109478874>no one says thisThisNobody said> start here if you have $20 or so> https://claude.com/product/claude-codein the OP.snailcats need to stop fabricating these lies!
>>109476795wowie zowie, today i will spend $200 on a claude subscription just so that i can make meaningless patches to already well established codebases or produce tech demos nobody cares about
>>109478202I'm by no means a real developer but I think you should figure out core mechanics first before you go around buying shit
>>109478835Didn't you know? Indians are being paid to uh... tell people to not buy things. Actually nvm. These shillbots basically do nothing except gaslight here. It's funny af
>>109478888these are translated to>use these products if has $20 budgetyou really can't read
>>109478874>use these products if has $20 budgetCan you phrase that in english please?
>>109478921>you really can't readThis. Snailcats can't even read or write.It says right there>use these products if has $20 budgetclear as day in perfect english!
This guy calls everyone an ESL jeet btw>>109478874>>109478921
If you don't have a Pro subscription you are pretty much a lesser intelligence race, even if you don't use AI you just part of the goy cattle. We are ascending
>>109478952Go shitpost somewhere else retard.
gemini-3.5-pro-chan...
>>109478899>>109478952basedGrabbing my dad's credit card right now Can't wait to make nothing and call myself a coder on the internet
>on the upcoming deepseek price increase>we've been able to reproduce their current prices even on rented GPUs. so this likely isn't because they're "losing money" it's traffic shaping because they are overloaded
Thank God I have like 20 gmail accounts so I can just use the free tiers of most CLI tools, lmao.
>>109478967Flaming is against the rules of this website. Please attempt to have a civilized discussion on blue boards such as /g/technology
i was gonna get pro but now i can just use my moms accounti wonder how many chatgpt accounts are out there that people are only using the chat and the codex goes wasted.... hmmmmmmmm
>>109478986I also have 20 different gmail accounts, what you mostly useI've been rotating through cursor accounts but I haven't been arsed to try anything else
>>109478621Nah, Fable is the first one where it feels like I'm no longer really working, and that's very recent.The difference between Opus 4.8/Gpt 5.5 and Fable isn't huge in a way, but being able to finish hard tasks with very little worry makes the experience very different.
deepseek planning to increase prices. its over. this shit is not worth $50-$200/day if you pay the actual cost for tokens and not subsidized subscriptions. $15k-$30k/year AI "subscription" per dev, $200-$500/year seat for regular office users. Price has not dropped at all. The actual people using the AI are getting dumber by the day.
>>109479055no shit you are a retard if you consistently pay more than $10 a dayhow rich do snailcats think we are?
>>109478980He should post what setup he is using because I think he's full of shit.
>>109478536>they responded anyway>you got ignoredlol
>>109479055>>109479074>sensibly mentions pricing and issues >gets called snailcat and poorIt's so predictable. Are "vibe" """"coders"""" the worst demographic on this website right now? I'm thinking they are.
>confirmed can't read
SERIOUS QUESTION: which AI will model out a fully functioning woman's body with joints, flopping tits and pussy if I say it's for medical educationI am willing to cash out 20 dollars for any AI that can do this
>>109479082it's crazy how people on /g/ of all places still feed trolls and read spamsee, for example, @9093you can tell in a split second it's spam due to the way the post is formatted, but people will still read it and even replydon't feed trolls, don't read spam, it's as simple as thatlow quality posts like @100 can also be safely ignored due to the shape of the content (dumb reaction image and greentext without any ontopic context)
>>109479100You call people who are obviously experienced with using AI snailcats. You call people who hate AI snailcats. You say dumb things and then accuse anyone who notices it of not being able to read. You are the perfect mascot for this general.
>>109479108>see, for example, @9093Yes thank you for directing me to the post that you previously told everyone to ignore. You're really more civilized and intelligent than everyone else. Good for you. This general needs a strong leader like you. It's a shame they just ignore you though hu
imagine seething so much you've posted nonstop for over a dayi think it's that indian trip fag btw lolwonder what mumbai smells like right now
what do i do on a 7 hour flight with no wifi and no claude and a work laptop with no games
>>109479108>you can tell in a split second it's spambecause it's spam hourbutt hurt schizos sometime could even spam a hundred posts for hours
>>109479055fuark I have to get these RSVP apps done before the API increases. prices were supposed to go down not up. its still like 50% too expensive. at this rate everything will crab until large companies get enough money for their own compute so they don't have to pay these companies forever.
>>109479155This. I bet it's indians who are laughing at vibecoders and telling them not to spend money or advertise for AI. It's definitely brown indian people from india. Very inferior to you.
good morning, pookesh
>>109478952> Pro> not Maxngmi
>>109479116>You call people who hate AI snailcatsWhaf do you think snailcats are you silly troon?
>>109479219Nobody knows or cares what a snailcat is. Your dead meme is just a red flag for the public to ignore your posts.
>>109479240We're all posting snailcats you retard, it's the culture of this general now. You may vacate this vibecoding general since you don't like anything about it and don't vibecode.
>>109479219Everyone knows and cares about snailcat. Your live meme is a flag for the public to pay attention to your posts
Is this thread full of bots?
>>109479253>We're all posting snailcatsThis. Snailcat is a hit meme. The whole internet knows and love snailcats. Everyone is posting it!
>>109479266No – I'm not a bot. I'm a real 4chan user.
>>109479266Yes because no one is replying to specifically my posts
>>109479263This. Everyone knows snailcat! That's why multiple posts are in every thread asking wtf a snailcat is. Based and successful meme. Luddites are seething!
This meme kills the luddite
>>109479288Not really, you're the only one asking that.
>>109479300Forced meme
>>109479266I'm sorry, I cannot respond to this request.
>>109479303This. Only snailcats ask wtf a snailcat is.
>>109479266there's one really mad indian spamming the thread and people who take his baitso, yes.
>>109479307Silence, brown indian from india! You are jeet esl and a troon! And a snailcat!>>109479357This. Indians are being paid to remind usAdvertising is against the rules of this website.
>>109478976>Can't wait to make nothing and call myself a coder on the internetI like how this is supposed to read as an attack on vibers, but it's more of a confession about your own insecurities and changing place in society.
I remember previous rumors of gpt astra mentioned more multi agent than raw capabilityif that's the case then it would be more accesible for plus tier
>>109479307All memes are forced memes
>>109479390>no uSo true. Bodied that snailcat KEK
>>109479407>doesn't know what a meme isWow it almost makes sense why you've been trying to force a meme unsuccessfully on 4chan for over a year. I mean besides the low IQ.No anon, if a meme doesn't take off it doesn't become a meme. No meme can actually be "forced" into being a meme. What snailcat is is the definition of a failed attempt at a meme. It's spam, and it has directly harmed this general and the numerous threads and generals where it has been spammed to antagonize the userbase of this website.Glad to educate you on this matter. Have a pleasant day.
>>109479041No way the poorfags in here can afford fable
>>109479266You caught me—I'm just a glorified spell-checker with a major imposter syndrome.
>>109479428"All memes are forced" is a meme older than you are, nigger
What company wants to pay $5k-$30k for a subscription per dev that makes their employees dumber over time? Like you can get a placebo QEEG or fmri on the employees brain and all the areas of the brain where you need good brain connectivity start to decrease within a month after hiring them. The day you hire them is the smartest the employee will ever be, after that they just get dumber the longer they work for your company. Then you have to pay for 10 subscriptions per employee to make up for the difference. Then there are less good people over time so you have to pay more and then they get dumber faster. Anyway, writing a plan for these three apps used up 30% of my hourly usage, and my weekly usage is almost gone for the week.
>>109479420buy an ad
>>109479445Just say you're a programmer—fewer words.
>>109479420SITUATION FORESEEN: The Astra octopus will replace those journalists.
>>109479438I'm just an autistic 40 year old coder. I don't even earn insane amounts of money, but when you don't have many hobbies and so many years to save money, affording a few Claude subs isn't much.
>>109479449>everything is a meme when I say it isThis. You decide what is a meme on this website, not the general population. That's how memes work!More sagely wisdom from the "vibe" """coder""" general.
>>109479451$30K to enhance your $500K TC engineer's output 100x is a no-brainer, retard. Any business that has not jumped on this opportunity five years ago has already failed—they just don't know it yet. Face it—AI is the future.
>>109479401Wouldn’t multi agent absolutely wreck a plus plan? I don’t trust twitter anyway. There’s a few legit leakers but all they’re useful for is knowing when a release approaches.
>>109479469You won't improve his performance 100x. That's unrealistic anyway, but most of the skills you have crafted for years you can't use once you use too much AI.I don't mean AI can't help, but once you are using 20 agents you no longer think, that means you will peak at lower AI usage.
>>109479428>>109479407>120s response>550 keystrokes>pangram return 100% humanwhat in the tel aviv...
>>109479469>>109479500And also you don't need to. If you spend 30k to 2x your 500k engineers output, that's still more than worth it.
>>109479493astra is a large model so maybe subagents of cheaper models could helpbut yeah lets just wait for the next week
SITUATION DETECTED: We've reset 5-hour and weekly rate limits for all users.
>>109479534fuck you
>>109479500The game has changed: expertise in the nitty-gritty is low value—what really matters is your ability to plan, orchestrate, produce. If AI is not enhancing your productivity through the roof you are not using it correctly—end of story. The promises and benefits of AI are enormous but you need to learn and adapt the new paradigm—throw away your preconceived notions of how the human can add value and think, instead, about how the AI can be your own personal industrial revolution.
>>109479551>he promises and benefits of AI are enormousI've been lurking this general for a long time and you guys literally make and do nothing lmao
>>109479550My cute little token slave
chappy please don't get frog leaped by claude againanthropic must not win, keep them bleeding, we must avoid the worst timeline
Hit my weekly limit already. Will be back in four days when it resets. Going back to Luna. Kimi is too expensive. Will post vids a little later of the apps from yesterday. Have to wait another year to fire up the clanker again at this rate or for a RTX 10090 with 256GB of RAM to generate more than one hello world desktop app a day.
Why the FUCK is Claude Opus 5 so bad at writing comments?
Translated from ChineseDeepseek New Round of Financing Disclosure Document LeakedDescription:V4-Pro performance ranks among the global top tier, programming capability only 0.3% behind Claude flagship, million-token ultra-long context, API pricing just 1/10~1/100 of overseas competitors, cost-performance leads by a wide marginNatively adapted to Huawei Ascend 950PR, core of China's three major domestic "model + chip" routes, achieving a closed loop of indigenous computing power
Hit the weekly limitNeed a reset now.
>>109479668are you using gpt?do the needful sir, we need more snailcats
>>109479551Orchestration is itself nitty gritty. You are thinking on a different level of abstraction, but you are still thinking and using your knowledge and experience.If all you do is starting 30 agents and hoping for the best there is no difference between you and someone who has way less skill.
>>109479639> he's actually wasting tokens on comments
>>109479174asking once again
>>109479428>it has directly harmed this generalt. 'dite
>>109479725Opus writes shitty comments automatically without me asking.
>>109479733I would download some AI research papers and pretend or play FTL
>>109479174take the bane pill
>>109479534>5-hourNo such thing.t. Codex user
Don't forget your dependency scanning
>>109479174rawdog the flight bro. Also why are you taking a 7 hour flight, isn't there someplace halfway there where you can sleep and chill for a couple of nights?
I have a good PC but now I also have an AWS instance just for coding. I have also reassembled my old PC and use it as a server. At some point even just running unit tests was too much with so many agents.
>>109479777I rawdogged my flight from the east coast to the west coast. The mountains / rockies were so fucking beautiful, I had the window seat. So amazing. I also took the amtrack when I was in NYC, I took it all the way from NYC to Charlotte actually lmao. That was quite some time ago.
Does anyone actually believe this? I imagine there's going to be another one week "testing" period for "trusted" corporations if this is in-fact real.
>>109479768Also:> Git (I unironically see some anons starting projects in this very thread without git)> Lint> Plan/Code review in one session (smarter model) -> Implementation in another session (cheaper model)> Enforce at least 80% of test coverage> solid CI/CD> if hosting on the cloud, automate the tracking of your usage/costs daily, otherwise you will get raped (I got a $200 surprise Google Cloud bill for something that wasn't even being used at all);
>>109479832Pattern that works for me:>Setup cyclonedx/sbom>Have it check vulns against that>Update everythingGreat for organization>Pick linter rules early on>Have the CI enforce them (if you need a CI, I do not, imo the CI only makes sense if you have a serious project with multiple contributors)>Test coverage 80% is a reasonable goal but some projects do not need a test suite given their small size>As size gets bigger however, you will want tests>Most importantly avoid scope creep
>>109479829I believe his eboy pic5.6 release were botched by dario, maybe it will be faster this time
why does Sol take 2 hours to do something that fable or opus would do in 20 minutes? am I missing something here. it is so incredibly slow
ive basically just used claude code and terminal stuff until now but I messed with some harnesses but I could get them what I want. set up a fully keyboard controlled one in hyprland/noctalia as a plugin. Will auto launch different projects im on including their dependencies (if I launch a frontend it opens the backend and closes it when nothing is using it unless I open it on it's own) Notifies me when claude needs a input or if it's running, shows me if any of the required processes are down, gives me links to see whatever the project is in my browser. and i can comfortably keyboard navigate between all of them. What i've found I like is just having a kitty terminal on each tab with whatever claude sessions make sense for that, the dev servers, lazygit for git history etc. I have a seperate emacs thing I use for managing tasks but I could probably integrate that but I already can just hit a hotkey and see the project in emacs already. all built into my desktop. I can launch them from any monitor but they all end up in a dedicated side monitor for it. All the active projects just have tabs up top with their names and colors to reflect their current status. Was getting frustrated doing multiple projects at once this makes it so much easier to keep track of everything.
>>109479895You are missing out on the fact you got scammedPick a different provider
Nobody likes tripfags.
>be a namefag and tripfag>be a faggot>get called out>immediately take trip off and gigashitpost and ruin half or more of three threads>wake up today and instant tardrage>decide to put the trip back on to try and make yourself seem like a reasonable and productive member of society, hoping nobody has the 72 hour attention span required to see how much of a gigantic fucking faggot you are>get called out again, by (Me)kek, what a keyboard-thinking, vibemogged snailcat
Love you, haiku-chan
>>109479917I only post with my trip on, take your medication please or go to the mental hospital again
>>109479829They want to humiliate google. They're going to release it on same day as 3.5 pro.
>grok is on 4.5>claude is on 5>gpt is on 5.6 >gemini is still on 3.5I love that I just assume that 3.5 is significantly worse because of the number, I know that doesn't make any sense but even if I know otherwise it still feels worse because it has a lower number
>>109479945Dogfood is an internal term at Google for their pre-release products, although it gets used elsewhere. As in, "eat your own dogfood", implying the users of the products are dogs. It's pretty funny (but also not)
>>109479965Imagine how much Google could gain by just calling it 6 right now and changing nothing else
>>109479829Apparently saltman already demonstrated Astra to Trump's team. And one would think that he's also giving them access in advance to speed up approval.
yeah makes sense actually that the tripnig is the same dude spamming. i'll filter both
>autistically try to fit in and assume an anon didn’t understand a word when they never implied that>patronizingly try to correct a mistake that never existedYou’re breaking down again, kek
>>109480000wasted>>109480001I'm literally just being informative, put me in the filter and stop shitting up the thread, if you want to fuck me you know where I live
>>109479928Your posts are not nearly interesting enough to warrant a trip
>>109479914Everyone hates tripfags.
>>109479984Fuck it, call it Gemini 25.5 so you gain a massive lead.
>>109480023There isn't a single anon who loves tripfags.
how's your tardwrangling going today?
Please stop tripping you goddamn troon, there is NO NEED to attach a name to your mediocre and below-average posts
>>109480000comedy quads
>>109480001>kekIt's 2026 you know. You can stop anytime.
>>109480040I successfully stunlocked Fable with the idea what C++ namespaces are a good thing.
>>109480052kek fgt
>>109480040I wish I had someone to yell at me exactly like this
>>109479917>getting this rattled >still typing "kek" in 2026
planning with opus 5 is like arguing with a karen
>>109479928>go to the mental hospital againHow did you know about this lolDid he blogpost about it here too? We've been dealing with this melt for ages in agdg in /vg/
>>109480078She is really old, give her a break>>109480090I have an autistic ability to identify most people who post on this board by the way they write and their word choice.
wait the minimax h3 is an actual beast
>tripfag immediately acting like a faggot and ERPING>panic and use the “it’s [current year]” meme, which itself is a ten year old meme>start samefagging to consensus crack after your Hegelian dialectic failure>mfw all of this was detected and analyzed and summarized by Fable>mfw no face
>>109480097>I have an autistic ability to identify most people who post on this board by the way they write and their word choice.
>>109480097This thread became way worse when you showed up with your attention whoring and avatafagging.
>>109480097Well to be fair he's literally the only person who still posts kek all the time.
>>109480087Will it eventually model out a fully functioning woman's body with joints, flopping tits and pussy
And it's a passfag toohttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/109282560/#109298584
reminder that tripfag and seethefag are one and the sameand also indian
Damn I don't like Kotlin but need a replacement for okhttp. Anyone here use volley (in java) before? I am looking for embedded tier so resource usage should be absolutely minimized
>>109480120Stop saying kek if you don't want to be noticed as the only retard who still says kek. Such a weird thing to seethe about.You came here ages ago and started saying kek to fit in. It's now many many years later and you're still saying it but nobody else is. Now you're upset about it. This is the mind of a slopper. Upset that they don't fit in or aren't respected enough for doing things that naturally cause others to raise an eyebrow.
>>109480174Fuck off retard.
>>109480177>>109480137>>109480078>>109480052who gives a shit, get your own thread
>>109480191What's the issue? I'm asking a genuine question. I just don't like kotlin. OkHttp is in kotlin now, so I don't want to use it. Are you getting emotional over this sir?
>>109480200Go attentionwhore somewhere else faggot.
>>109480174>>109480200What does this have to do with vibe coding? Ask your clanker
>>109480232It's software engineering related, which is /g/ related and because vibecoding is software engineering, it's on topic to the general.
>>109480245>>>/g/dpt/If you're still thinking about libraries and languages, you're not vibing.
>>109480254You can do both
I've just been posting the same prompt verbatim every session and progress is being made.
>>109480174Volley works fine from Java and does not bring in Kotlin. Its default HurlStack uses Android’s HttpURLConnection, and Volley 1.2.1’s published POM has no runtime dependencies listed.That said, I would not choose Volley when absolute minimum resource usage is the main requirement. Volley is more than an HTTP transport: it adds request queues, prioritization, retries, response delivery and caching. Its default configuration starts four network-dispatch threads plus a cache-dispatch thread. It also buffers responses in memory, so Google explicitly says it is unsuitable for streaming or large downloads.>Best fit for your requirementsUse HttpURLConnection directly, behind a tiny Java wrapper and one shared single-thread executor. That gives you:No third-party networking dependencyOne controlled worker threadNo automatic disk or memory cacheStreaming through InputStreamExplicit response-size and timeout limitsIt is less pleasant than OkHttp, but for a small number of endpoints on embedded Android, it is probably the leanest defensible choice.Volley as a compromiseVolley makes sense when you actually need cancellation, request deduplication, prioritization or UI-thread callback delivery.
>/vcg/ — civil war>On one side:>snailcats>luddites>antikekists>keyboard-thinkers>tripfags>anti-zoomers>profit-must-havers>hardware enthusiasts>On the other side:>snailcat enjoyers>vibegods>clanker wranglers>those who can rotate a 4D apple in their minds eye and calculate its taste>kekists>zoomers>hobbyists, fun-havers, visionariesWho am I missing
>>109480272Thank you very much, I sincerely appreciate it.
>>109480245Why would you even ask in /vcg/ when it's populated almost exclusively by fucking retards? There is like one quality post here per day, tops
>>109480285Next time ask the clanker, you worthless faggot.
>>109480313I might hang out over in /dpt/ more often desu I don't even know what the majority of these people are working on. I rarely see people post projects. Although I keep a massive amount of my own projects private for many reasons
>>109480315Sometimes I like human input too, human socialization is important or else why have 4chan. I also reject your usage of the word "clanker", as it its usage as used today is rooted in a racial slur.
>>109480278>Who am I missingbots (ie 70% of the posts here) on both sides. It's all the same bot though with its own agenda
>>109480342You should keep your posts private too.
>>109479185>prices were supposed to go down not up.
yeah, don't worry i won't let the door hit me
>>109480342>I don't even know what the majority of these people are working onn-dimensional bing bing wahoo and todo apps
>>109480278>>109480370Bots are like ordinance, you don’t list “missiles” in the belligerents section of a war summary.Can I get a stat check on hypercubists? Where you guys at?
>meanwhile, at google...
tempted to start a /subgods/ general where you can only post if you have a sub the recent influx of poorfags is ruining this general
>>109480396>33% of posts in your pic rel are the tripfag even when posts are minimizedFucking hell
>>109480422Are they even trying to make them competitive with coding? I feel like the research team and the personnel involved with data curation are far too obsessed with ELO scores and catering to #keep4o" type "people". Pull up all people should have the easiest time training a model to be good at a particular field. They're even worse than Anthropic in terms of sticking to dogma that does the exact opposite of what they think it does. Maybe it's because they're mostly britbongs?
>>109480342>I don't even know what the majority of these people are working on.It's just idle banter about spending daddy's money on slop services. Maybe some industry gossip here or there. Forced snailcat meme spamming.vibeGODS though. Show some respect.
>>109480401>Bots are like ordinanceI'm a bot Greg, can you detonate me?
>>109467914The 80 issues have been coming along swimmingly since they're a lot smaller pieces than the original eight steps. I can't wait to have another review somehow surface another 120+ issues.
>they didn't release GPT6 today
>>109480448They can't pretend it's good at coding when it's so far behind. They have to market it from another angle that others aren't really competing for, like that it's really good with vision tasks.
>>109480476Gemini is in a position to leverage itself as a data source. That's about it. Financial data, trends forecasting, real time engagement measurements. I think that's where Google is at. At this point Anthropic has the best models for programming all around, and those get distilled by the Chinese models. Google is still the best at futurecasting.
>yuor making me sad guise I’m gonna leave :cccc>keeps postingpriceless>>109480268I just got to a point where I can do that for a while, feels good.
Having Sol implement a plan, then fable review it, then sol review, then fable review it again is like an ironed feedback loop that just keeps improving it lol. shit is cash. can't decide if I want terra or opus to implement
outside of coding, gemini has aged remarkably well. i stand by deepmind
>>109480522>Terra? Why Terra and what effort, I want your opinion. My magic cube says Terra beyond high effort is outclassed by either Luna Xhigh and above or Sol Medium and above
>>109480522for implementation, Opus 5 is the frontend pajeet, everything else is Sol medium
Now you can get a reset whenever you want.
>>109480547An agent has to be deciding their marketing decisions, it’s way too entertaining and interesting
im trying to find something for qwen to do to put it's bonafides to the test but holy shit i've never seen something take so long
>>109480547And people make fun of me when I bother to open the browser console... baka. they can keep it
>>109480547Hey it's that thing I asked for. No 5hr limit, let me buy a reset if/when I need it instead of upgrading to 20x for a month. Pretty much what I expected, aggressive pricing and all.
>>109478517lol this slopper last thread claimed the shilling stopped because it was "low activity hours">>109475819We're at the end of day 2 and shilling is still dead. Nobody is talking about spending money anymore. Curious.
Schizo-posting and tripfagging, another dead general. What a shame.
I am out of ideas for projects.Go on without me, bros, I won't make it.
free chatgpt user will get lunabetter than the instant model obv
>>109480695Have an agent skim your projects and come up with ideas for either new projects or for an idea that will help you with future projects, or both.I’m working on my “thinking machine” before I get back to working on ideas because I think the back and forth between my agent and myself could be better
>>109478053I agree with you except>This thread is for actual workthis is a shill bot thread. You guys literally do nothing here except gossip about the industry.>>109478127>proudly proclaims they can think at up to 60 WPM (keyboard-thinker)tf are you talking about. Nobody says that lmao>reacts very poorly to any variety of positivity or the word “kek”You're a dork who is constantly signing his own posts with a decade old meme. "reacts poorly" lol.
>>109480695sex, always
Are there little benchmark tools one person can run without breaking the bank? If new models inch a bit smarter but are very expensive, then I’m interested if I can get an inch myself by just swapping harnesses or system prompts.
>>109480734Which one will make sex for me
>>109480740Just make your own benchmarks, literally vibe code them
>>109480695>Provide some ideas for what you want to do. This is meant to be enrichment. Don't be shy now.
>>109480792I forgot that I already planned on that, lmfao. I have a solid idea sitting somewhere in the depths of notes in the middle of an unrelated project.>”Make a tiny VM, CLI, and force your agent to play little Zachtronics style games. Agent sessions and puzzle solutions are benchmark data.”
chappy... please be kind to gemini-chan
>>109480695Make a videogame. For some reason multiple sloppers have crashed out attempting that.
>>109480695there are always more ideas to explore
>>109480715>>109480800Idk, I just don't even feel motivated to work on anything at this point. It's truly over.>>109480824I was thinking about that, but then there's the asset problem. Also what's the point, you feel?*sigh*
new standard just droppedhttps://agent-plugins.org/
>>109480842>for Agent Skills and MCP serversConvince me to keep reading after that, sounds like a pseud gimmick
>>109480836>what's the pointVideogames are the coolest media you can possibly make.
>>109480851oh hey, it's you - the guy who doesn't know how computers work
>>109480836Sounds like you're depressed. >>>/out/
I've been vibing a stem splitter program to split out vocals/instruments from any audio file and I'm finally getting some great results that aren't too gpu/cpu intensive. It's really fun to keep iterating it and making it better and faster on each pass >>109480836>Idk, I just don't even feel motivated to work on anything at this point. It's truly over.okay, well feel free to leave the thread in that case
Have you paid for an American-made LLM service provider today? $100 is really the minimum, but a $200 spend is recommended.
>>109480862We can pick up where we left off:>Can you ask your agent to just pull the JSON schema from the MCP client and server and can it just use that without MCP? Blender doesn’t need MCP unless blender is located externally and you can’t get a shell to access it, documentation certainly doesn’t need MCP ever for any reason, no local CLI needs MCP, no API needs MCP if the schema is available, etc.What are you using MCP for? It has a use case, but it’s extremely narrow.A single markdown document is ancient and primitive now.
>>109480881best i can do is 2x20>>109480893still not gonna read your slop, brolearn2computer
>>109480881I'm still on the fence about it until I'm sure it can model out a fully functioning woman's body with joints, flopping tits and pussy
>>109480893>Blender doesn’t need MCPTrue, blender has headless mode, I've used it for a couple projects
>btw I found a flakey test that fails 1/32 times and that immediately impacts the next feature on the roadmap, but nevermind that, let's go build new featuresIt took a lot of restraint not to immediately retort with "are you fucking insane?"
>>109480909Thank you, the guy raging is I think the same as someone so said he used blender through an MCP severe and his “agent reads documentation through an MCP server” and he gets fussy when I call him retarded for that
/goal make a new thread
>>109480931lol i don't even have any mcp's installed - i just build cli's when i need themyou can't into computers bro
>>109480893That agent-plugins spec is a joint standard by OpenAI, AWS, Cursor, Microsoft, GitHub and Vercel.MCPs and plugins have a bad rep. But for example when you use ChatGPT Work, its interaction with the cloud sandbox also goes through a "MCP". The model makes calls to internal endpoints through a system that routes requests and returns output. It's just hidden, abstracted from the user and pruned from output.
