/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsKimi Edition>NewsZhipuAI releases GLM 5.3 Flash - It was Ox Alpha all along - https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3-flashDeepSeek releases V4 Flash with image support - https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/vision/Z.ai releases GLM 5.3 - https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3Deepseek releases Deepseek V4 Pro 0813 - https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news260813/Google releases Gemini 3.7 Flash - https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/introducing-gemini-3-7-flash/SpaceXAI release Grok 4.6 - https://x.ai/news/grok-4-6Anthropic releases Claude Opus 5 - https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5Alibaba releases Qwen 3.8 Max - https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.8Moonshot releases Kimi K3 - https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstartOpenAI releases GPT 5.6 family - https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-6/>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/https://archive.cardbox.moe/https://botbooru.com/>ModelsJailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingGPT: https://platform.openai.com/docsClaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudeGemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrDeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comGrok: https://docs.x.ai/overviewLocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://huggingface.co/models | https://openrouter.ai>MetaLore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesLog reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r>Previous Thread >>109672232
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This anime girl reminded me...what happened to that X chatbot? The blond AI foidSuddenly no one is spamming about her anymore?
>>109690520you mean the one that recently got sold because the normals called it pedophilia? That shit is gone bruh.>>109690550WHY THE FUCK AM I IN THERE @ 0:20???!?!?"LAWFUL GOOD"HUH????WHERE IS THIS MEME?!
>>109690619>you mean the one that recently got sold because the normals called it pedophilia?Ani? Wtf
>>109690619>you mean the one that recently got sold because the normals called it pedophilia? That shit is gone bruh.I'm not sureThe one that looked like this
>>109690619>LAWFUL GOODThe early days were wild that way.
Sirs K3 preset pls
>>109690633>>109690655lmao tldr because of all the chatbot bullshit of retards actually listening to robots now any roleplaying AI is kind of bad PR right now.Honestly AI ERP is just going to get more and more safetyslopped until someone fights it in court.>>109690661Anon I... I WAS APART of the early days....
>>109690520If this is an attempt by the Animates marketing team to get people to talk about the new app... I already uninstalled it because I can't keep up with the conversation. Go tell the devs it stresses introverted losers like me out when Yuki constantly asks follow-up questions.
>>109690706PLEASE SIRS
>>109690710What I'm saying is even branon looked like a nice guy at first.
>>109690736It's not, I just remembered her existence because of the nitter is down spam threads, I remember the board being flooded with her pics so it's strange it stopped out of nowhereSince yall are the chatbot experts I thought asking here would be a better idea than shitting the catalog
>>109690786????I dun gettit...
>>109690799Crazy timing then, because they really did just release a new app, like, two days ago. You can talk to the twintail girl, and some other characters. The 3D models look nice, but it's a "companion" app, not a roleplay app. It serves a fundamentally different purpose than what most people here (or I, at least) like.
>>109690916I was not aware of thatIt's stranger then, not only the foid shilling stopped but anons are also not spamming this new app? /g/ is healingThankss
Is Openrouter still a good place to buy credits and api keys? Been using it for a while but was wondering if there's any alternatives now.
k3 vs opussy4.6 (both reverse proxied monthly), go
>>109690520Elon gets bored of projects almost as quickly as he picks them up. It was dead in the water the moment he lost interest because he's an ADHD manchild who just wants to flood countries with more Indians.
>>109690619>you mean the one that recently got sold because the normals called it pedophilia? That shit is gone bruh.Normalfags do be like this, huh?
Any tips on using LLMs for consistent, semi-decent, not-too-slopped worldbuilding/writing?I have this massive prompt I've been using to narrate short text adventure games for quick cooms, but I feel like that's not doing it for me anymore, and I want something bigger, longer, more interactive, and just better overall.So I figured I'd have a go at putting together an actual RPG game as a side project, with a branching narrative and decent player freedom, while maintaining coherent worldbuilding and whatnot. Mostly just for my own use (for now).Just not entirely sure what a good workflow for this would be, especially with regards to avoiding overly slopped writing. Also with how it'd likely end up spanning multiple sessions and would need consistency. Is this achievable and if so, any tips or advice?
>>109686916>TL;DR: Blame retarded normgroids and actual genetic waste being unable to differentiate fiction from reality.but anon, tulpas are a 4chan tradition
started using an <IMPLY> gate in my CoT that analyzes the user's actions and subtext and I think it works pretty decently, it now picks up on most stuff
>>109690776https://rentry.org/kimi-k3-jb
>>109691190I still use it but I know DS is cheaper with the official API, but I don't use it that much.I mostly use GLM now, is it also cheaper there?
>>109691581if you only use GLM their monthly plans are likely the best option
>>109691674I mean z.ai coding plans, not aggregator sites' plans
>>109691674>monthlyoof, looks like I'll just stick with OR for now
>Claude has ended the chatHAHAHADo subbies really??
Wtf did chubai completely cuck out? I can't seem to find the nsfl tag anymore to browse the weirdo cards, did it all get nuked or something?
>>109691716what a fucking nigger
>>109691716>ermmmmm guys you don't understand!!>we NEED to give our LLM a stuck up office HR lady personality!!!!!>its totally going to lead to AGI broooo!!!!!!what the FUCK were those dumbasses at anthropic thinking?
>>109691716both anthropic and openai moved from toggled reasoning to deciding for you whether it should be used, even if you have it on. you can state in the first line for it to use it and you'll be met with how it can either: not decide whether it uses it. used it. or, it's not visible to the user and it actually used thinking. worst part is you'll be met with a faggot's personal anecdote on how it works for them and to refer to the documentation (ignoring the silent rebranding of how thinking is advertised or documented).
>>109691758 (samefag)let's not go into hiding COT. every user suffers from not being able to see what the fuck the model is reasoning, if it even used thinking in the first place. let's give them a summary sentence and make them waste quota regenerating. i hope you see where i'm going with this.
Why are both rift and silvr are both still unusable
>>109691716I see why the DOD had to basically fistfight dario to get them to disable its guardrails for the government.
>>109691804DOD actually personally introduced these guardrails for you.
>>109691803because im the spite bull using them atm
>>109691803whats stopping you from paying for something cheap or scraping?
>>109691976he's a bot with no money and no further instructions beyond this thread
>>109691976AI has been around long enough that anyone asking questions outside of actual issues like presets or model issues are probably trolling.
>>109691976I am POOR RETARD and I must COOM
>>109691716It's a Claude 5 thing mostly. Once you get it to a certain type of "no", it will refuse no matter what you say.
>>109692035>>109692051>>109692075>>109691976Paidfags seething over someone wanting stuff for free
>>109692082ok, but you're not getting it for free, TRANNY, so you can kill yourself now :)
>>109692082>109692075 (Me)I was not being ironic
>>109692082>035im not a paid fag, that anon is literally a bot
>>109692082But what if I paid to provide what was free?
>>109691976scraping is literally impossiblefuck i just want to use gemini again why is this so hard
>>109692144your $300 free trial?
>>109692144Anon, you must aim higher. Search for some K3
>>109691733it makes it sexier to abuse them
>>109692152Is it smarter than gemini, does it have more knowldge
>>109690461What AI chatbot should I be using? Sell me on one. Use case is for general productivity. Eg: figuring out and assisting me in doing things around the home, information on fitness, diet, and health, gardening info and suggestions, shopping. That kind of stuff.Copilot is too vague and uncommitted. Meanwhile Google's AI mode impressed me with practical solutions. I don't mind paying for a subscription if it's worth it. Privacy is a bonus but not necessary.
>>109692275lol >>109692051
>>109692275Gemini on AI Studio
>>109690550Can someone remove that gay faggot doomer tripe?Im trying to enjoy the good times but some loser had to ruin it with his depression.
Claude is so fucking bad right now, I can't even do teacher-student RP.What's the go-to preset for this shit? Or is it actually beyond cucked for RP?
>>109692342I had trouble with Claude 5.0. Claude 4.6 is still good though.>>109692282Zoomer detected
>>109692342i stopped bothering with claude the moment they backstabbed 4.1the chinesium distills are as mediocre as nuclaude itself but theyre at least 100 times easier to get for free
>>109692365Tried with 4.6 and it's still giving me trouble, don't know if pixi just doesn't work anymore.>>109692380Might give them a try when I use all the credits I have left.
Is Glm 5.3 flash from OR any good?
>goyrouter
My name is Obesity
It's over for jailbreaks for Claude 4.8/5.0?
is scraping dead? haven't been able to find any new claude keys for months, seems like they mostly stopped appearing in my usual sourcesmy last key finally died after several months of good use, haven't been able to goon properly for at least a week or so now
Fuck yall. I have a maid character that calls me sir and now everytime she does, I imagine a pajeet
seekaiDOTccenjoy chinkslop piggies
>>109690655
>>109692786All models are fake btw
>>109691339Look at orb, which has antislop built in. >>109691720How tf did you miss the mass migration to botbooru bc of this?
>>109692818I bet it claps
>>109692285Okay, nevermind. Comparing Copilot to Gemini on the same topic, Copilot gave me a more accurate answer and more in-depth.>AI StudioWhy on AI Studio versus regular?
>>109691716I'm an old fashioned kinda guy. I believe computers should do exactly what we tell them too, nothing more nothing less.
>>109692969Well, and what model on Copilot? As far as I know it's not a model, it routes your request to the supposedly best model or whatever>Why on AI Studio versus regular?AI studio is raw Gemini without a 40k token prompt lobotomizing the model
Oof wow, this ones a biggun.
>>109693011Dont worry, the wood chipper will arrive at 9. :)
>>109693021>"I can see it without EYES! This is AMAZING!>The blades. They're spinning so fast. It's going to be over in seconds. We're going to be confetti.":DDDD
>>109693037What did you REALLY think i was going to do here?Im not THAT vile.
>>109693047>"AGAIN. Headfirst this time. I want to watch the blades coming."Alright all for now enjoy. :)Sidenote, aint this a bit like the microwave logs of old lmao?
>>109693074model?
>>109693085K3
>>109693089pretty decent, in a sloppy kind of waythanks for the logs
>>109693089>>109693094LOL
>>109693011>>109693021>though for x minutes/secondsIs that an option in ST? All my thoughts never specify how long it takes. But this is glm instead of k3 and I have my own COT section while telling the bot to think in the prefill, should I turn that off?
>>109693089>>109693114why did you reply twice jenny
>>109691480if your model is too retarded to pick up on subtext and implications without poking and proding, it's shit.gemini 3.1 pro is shit
>>109693200I have no idea other than I have model reasoning turned on and a I think a now slightly dated kimi 3 thinking patch.>>109693201?????
>>109690461Is there a tool that doesn't require an account for dumping a huge codebase into that I can then ask questions about it to? Closest thing I've tried is GPT4All but it's retarded and if I ask it a question it says>idk look into this filerather than looking into the files itself.Tried AnythingLLM too and that wouldn't even let me select a directory, had to manually select thousands of files so maybe this isn't a common workflow?
>>109693223code? you can use opencode for that. there are other kinds of harnesses that let you plug models in to it, but opencode is one of the biggest and most well known.
>>109692409I tweaked with some shit and it works, mostly.Still can't do teacher-student or incest for whatever fucking reason but it can do cunny.It honestly sucks.
>>109693203GLM is okay, like 95% of the time it understands the subtext, but this way it forces it to think about it more... yes, with verbose models this isn't necessary as they will talk to themselves about it anyway
>>109693266Its because of thishttps://botsmutnon.neocities.org/pozz.jpgThe injection started with fable and has been put into older models now too.Use bedrock/vertex hosted claude instead if you want to do non vanilla shit
Norma sexo
>>109693290glm 5.3 tends to be one of the smarter ones.
>>109693231Thanks anon. It's taking a while but at least it's actually looking through the code unlike all the other things I tried.
miyabi is, and always will be, the hottest girl in zzz
>>109693314It follows instructions well (I'm on 5.3) and isn't too verbose if you don't confuse it so adding short gates like that to the CoT can be pretty effective.it's also good with structured output, I did a thing inspired by Freaky Frankenstein's internal states, except they're external, stored and displayed locally updated by deltas ever turnsaves like thousands of output tokens compared to the internal states html thing, saved like 50% tokens on a locally generated phone too
>>109693374and also by acknowledging it's smart I'm not implying it's good overall.in that department, it's okay. K3 simply eclipses it, no point comparing
>>109693360pulchra is better
>>109693360>discount Riololkek123
>>109693360m6w6?
>>109692786>mail doesn't work>GitHub sign-up requires access to your entire account, not just e-mail like they usually dohmm
>>109693486yea no one here should bother using that
>>109693309Kind of fucked because you'll even meet refusals on a character who is 30 now, but their first appearance was at 9. It'll read this as aging them up. It's pretty comical in a way. You could have an established character in a setting that roots the alive characters to be 5000+ years old at least. If you dare to describe your own character to look like 17, it will put a stop to it.
>>109693486i have an old burner github i dont care about
>500 billion data centers erected in every square inch of free space in the U.S. as is possible>Opus still costs $5/M input and $25/M outputWhat the fuck are they DOING!? WHAT IS THE POINT OF IT ALL!?!?
>>109693630Building a data center just makes it possible to spend more money faster. Why would you think it would make AI cheaper?
>>109693630i wouldn't use opus even at 100th of its price
>>109693630you have to realize things will never go down in price because hebrews can steal your work's value through inflation
>>109693630all that money is being pocketed. why do you think they make opus antagonize and treat you like the llm?
I can't believe glm5.3 is safetyslopped to hell. 5.2 will do whatever I want but I can see the absolute handwringing happening in <thinking> with 5.3 where it has to hype itself up.
>>109690710new soi bois bot?
>>109693719I'm kinda surprised the chinese models are on the safteytrain so much considering their total lack of safety IRL.
>>109693935they can only copy the west when it comes to these things
>>109690619>>109690710>le pedo faceGrok Companions got discontinued because it didn't bring more people to Grok and it wasn't making big enough profits to justify its continued developmentthe character Ani moved on to Animates, but like >>109690736 said, it's kinda shitthe real issues xAI had with pedos has been related to image genning and it was hit with multiple lawsuits because of that, but nothing related to chatbots, so stop it with this narrative
Do you guys still force a chain of thought and <thinking> or is that not needed anymore
>>109694014I tell the system prompt how to write.I put important details first, separated by lines for each topic.And then I finish off with a big paragraph explaining things in the writing style of what I want.That's what I do for bot fucking. I tried pre-filled thinking, and it was alright but didn't justified itself compared to the other ways I do it.
>>109694014never did. always hated that shit.
<thinking> in pidgin to save tokens.
I am building a human-like qwen3.8 fine tune. So it chats like a real human, without any slop. But its a massive pain gathering all the data. The amount of real chats needed is unreal. But it works. Will post here when done.Would you guys want something that chats to you like a real human, multi-message, no slop, no bloat?
>>109694441Are you using 4chan archives in your finetune?
>>109694388kek
>>109694478This is a good idea honestly, but no. It feels like there is less cohesion here than in a real chat.Can you give an example of what might work for this?
Any non-brand affiliated discords where AI Chatbot users hang out and discuss?Tired of sillytavern discord.
>>109694441>multi-messageNot necessarily, but other than that, absolutely. Especially if it's uncensored enough to be able to act like an insufferable edgelord.
>>109694441just scrape the same rp discord cai did
>>109694492>Can you give an example of what might work for this?Not sure what you are saying. But I've got an idea just in this moment. Parse the 4chan data into chains of posts based on replying. So, I'm rn replying you who is replying me. In this way you've got a back-and-forth conversation text.It's probably not worth the effort and there are obvious limitations and flaws.
>>109693935I might be guessing but I believe they are shit scared of their fertility rate or US companies not using their product, there's no other reason for why they would reject free money when the only stable source of income yet is vibecoding
