A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, and shipping code with LLMs.## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overviewhttps://learn.chatgpt.com/docs## News- 2026-09-22 — OpenAI releases GPT-6 Sol and Luna- 2026-09-22 — Anthropic releases Opus 5.5- 2026-09-22 — Anthropic increases subscription plans's 5-hour limits by 20%- 2026-09-14 — Anthropic reduces subscription plans's weekly limits by 17%- 2026-09-12 — Anthropic suggests to pace the frontier. OpenAI agrees in principle.- 2026-09-10 — OpenAI pauses new sign-ups for their $200 subscription- 2026-09-04 — OpenAI releases GPT-6 Astra- 2026-09-01 — Anthropic releases Fable 5.1## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20https://claude.com/product/claude-codehttps://openai.com/codex/## Best free-tierhttps://antigravity.google/pricing----## Promptinghttps://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/overviewhttps://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model## Skillshttps://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grill-with-docs is a favorite## Independent analysis of AIhttps://artificialanalysis.ai/## Is your AI unlearning?https://aistupidlevel.info/## Will there be a codex reset?https://codex-resets.com/## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>109901448
Opus 5.5 solved LLMs
2 more weeks surely
>>109905424any day now sam will spin up 20000 agents to find out a better alternative to transformers
heard Sonnet 5.5 is in testing. i might not even need chink models anymore
>>109905442>dario now pays for 4chan shills
a 5.6 sol is agi
how can I get a claude max sub without giving Peter Thiel my ID?chinese account from Alibaba?
I'm switching to claude next week, they better not nerf it shortly after release.
>>109905447im starting to think the people who dont just use both are looking for validation in their choices
>>109905442sonnet-5.5 will likely have opus-5.5/fable-5.1's safeguards. so chinese models will always have their niche.
So the conspiracy was true all along. People could tell something was off.https://archive.ph/LxmeA>According to one of the sources, who had direct knowledge, DEY. also preemptively booked Nate Soares, a prominent AI safety figure, for interviews that directly overlapped with Jacob going public.Fun fact: Nate Soares is that Aella whore's boyfriend. The one who did the gangbang shtick. Those are all AI safety doom people, it's a cult.
>>109905463 It kind of reminds me of what the console war was like back then.
>>109905478yeah, console wars were understandable given the context (young, no money, expensive purchase) meanwhile these subs are $20 and you can drop them whenever you're bored.
>>109905486Considering what I've seen in these threads (e.g. begging for reset etc.) $20 is probably a lot for many anons here.
>>109905463using both is not a viable proposition due to native harnesses. you cannot just switch. claude code doesn't even support .agents/skills.
>>109905451>how can I get a claude max sub without giving Peter Thiel my ID?live in the first world and not a turd world shithole
>>109905507pffffft
>>109905471it was obvious af this was a ploy to force fake ai will kill us bs and force regulations. anyone not seeing it is dumb.
>>109905507just create a copy to .claude/
>>109905514do substantiate how you would use both for a project
>>109905512That's rude to americans.
>>109905550my own harness
>>109905512they ask for ID for basically any arbitrary reason now, I wouldn't be surprised if it's impossible to make a new account and not require ID anymore
>ctrl f "AI">15 resultsplease use the correct name, it's SI
it's over vibebros
>>109905555americans aren't asked for id honey
>>109905631SI = Smelly India?
>>109905631>Safe Superintelligence Inc.
>>109905631That's only mandated on official US documents. Fuck off lardy.
shit intelligence
>>109905658ssi = super smelly india
109905679uh oh...a woke wrong is butt mad the god king of the planet trump shut down the tisms and their wacky jacky and showed why he fucks a harem and you all put on panties and cross dress you're a "girl".
>>109905658Can you match his aura?
i will be calling it super intelligence from now on btw
>>109905658he needs to shave
>>109905689all the thinking about ai made his brain too heated and burned away all his hair near the frontal lobe
gemini 4 when
>>109905725currently A/B testing in india, please have patience
>>109905733even funnier the 100x time
It will be equivalent to Grok 4.7.
I am le tired. I will have a beer and go to sleep.
>>109905649Even if that was true, it doesn't matter. It's trivial to pretend to be american to US corps.
Not one day in this general without americans seething an other nations for some reason.Why even?
>>109905811its ironic don't worry
>>109905390>- 2026-09-22 — Anthropic increases subscription plans's 5-hour limits by 20%>- 2026-09-14 — Anthropic reduces subscription plans's weekly limits by 17%what dario din
>>109905390Anyone have any tips for getting your app even seen, let alone downloaded? Got it on App Store, under my real name of course, but it’s only made a few impressions and 0 downloads. Made a new X account, TikTok, and Reddit account to promote it, cuz I don’t want my other ones associated with my real name, but am getting zero traction. Plus on Reddit it was removed right away by filters and the mods never messaged me back about reinstating it. Don’t really have money to buy ads, unless it’s only like ~$5-10, and Idk if they even have ad packages that low. Any pro tips, Bros?
>>109905896Yeah there's a massive oversupply and people use FEWER apps now. Web is also kinda dead with normies, but can get some attention in tech fields.First what is your app, is there even any point to it?You're gonna have to spend money on advertising, find where the niche you're targeting is (if any).
>>109905896gotta spend money to make money
109905811>not one day in this general without non-americans seething at superior chad americans for some reason
>>109905923>not quoting correctlyButthurt. And no, you started it.
>>109905896>Anyone have any tips for getting your app even seen, let alone downloaded?lolapp stores are like amazon now, it's pay to play and they squeeze all your margin on advertisingevery random retard can now make halfway decent apps and you think you'll make a fortune by just shitting out a project in an afternoon?
>>109905949That's what vibesnails don't understand.They're already obsolete.
so what is ilya actually up to and why are there no leaks?
Why even pay for a frontier sub at this point?
>>109905896the current meta is roblox games.
>>109905896Suppy and demand my nigga. There's an oversupply of software these days, unless it's something novel and actually has a market you aren't making money.The sad reality is this.
>>109905975They can actually code meaningful software.
>>109905896Get a following with free projects. Have to actually be useful.
>>109905997oversuppy of suppyware
>>109905896mention it to people who might like itdoubly so if they’re mid-tier famousbe prepared to send emails to journalistsalso ask your clanker
>>109905975holy shit man they actually did it. whats the point of paying api prices again
>>109905975!!!
>>109905975I'm a simp for chinesium models but deepsneed just isn't comparable to the Good Shit models like opus or astrahorses for courses and all that
>>109906096I wouldn't call Astra good with how expensive it is compared to Opus.
I hate Anthropic SAM SAVE US MAKE YOUR >>109906096MODELS BETTER NOW
>>109905915It’s a productivity app. It has a cool dashboard, and it’s supposed to make it easy to track where you’re spending the most time, and even charts it.>>109905918>>109905949I worked on it off and on for months, desu, but it’s the first vibecoding project I’ve taken on and I guess I’m not a ClaudeGod poweruser yet, lol.>>109905976I will have to do some research on that. Thanks fren.>>109905997I asked a few different AI’s and they said productivity software is a growing market. Plus, it’s something that helps me personally to keep track of my time; too much TV and Videogames, frfr.
>>109906121Opus is the better deal but Astra is still the superior (no, really) model. So is Fable, but that one is a true token muncher.But then, even Sol is a fair bit better than Deepseek. Deepseek does win against Luna and is much cheaper due to cheap cache tho.
>>109906142Can you post the app?
>>109905134>/vcg/ we need to design something like an openworldI come up with a name>>109905976unironically good advice
https://ca3gamedev.itch.io/chicuelas-512I made a new 100% game using AI.
>>109906147>Astra is still the superior (no, really) modelBro you're tripping.
>>109906142>It’s a productivity app. It has a cool dashboard, and it’s supposed to make it easy to track where you’re spending the most time, and even charts it.how unique
>>109906010This is a good idea, just trying to build a revenue stream. I guess I can be a bit impatient, lowkey.
>>109906096for programming deepseek is really all you needunless you're making 3d models, doing research grade maths or can't read code, then a frontier sub is still worth it.
>>109906030No cap, Idk any people, especially nobody that’s any tier of famous. I could maybe ask my sister to give it a shout-out on her TikTok, lol. I think she has something like 10k followers??
>>109906161I opened it for a few seconds because of the cat.
>>109905935>larping he defines it's only quoting>exposes his arrival after 2020>thinks he tells me what that meanslol, lmao. if you think its only for quotes you're very fresh off the reddit/blusky boat young one. lurk moar before you post things you dont know and understand. run along now the adults are posting.
>>109906164>I said faster.
>>109906174>for programming deepseek is really all you needkek it's always the same shityou go to lmg and they'll tell you that akhsually qwen 3.8 27b is all you need. those who don't even have 24gb vram will tell you that ahkshually gemma moe is just fine too. go to smartphone general and they'll tell you that ahkshually a midrange phone from 2023 is just as good. thinkpadders will swear that a $150 laptop with one broken hinge is ahkshually perfectly usable and you don't need more.I have better things to do with my time than tard wrangle an inferior model when the good shit can be had for as little as $100/mo
>>109906142The market is heavily saturated, but there could be a niche. You could've started with some youtube videos promoting your "workflow" before you started doing stuff with this. I don't think you're gonna make money on this.
>>109906201i am willing to bet you don't get $100 of value out of your sub
baby don't hurt me
>>109906201>comparing deepseek flash v4.1 to a $150 thinkpad with a broken hingelazy bait
>>109906155Idts Dawg, not on here. 4chan 3litehaxxorz will doxx and gangstalk me (Even more).>>109906166Real. That’s fair. But if Ford and Dodge were the only carmakers, we never would have gotten the Lambo and ‘Rarri.
>>109906161I'm too retarded to understand what's happening but looks very complex and indepth
>>109906211Not having to fuck around with random configs and ffmpeg / python / shell scripts manually is worth the $100 to me, so I'm pretty confident the value I get exceeds that.>>109906223>a $150 stinkpad with a broken hinge is a perfectly usable laptop that will get you most of the benefit of owning an actual computer, especially when used with external display.>a cheapo deepseek flash is a perfectly usable though fairly low end LLM that will get you most of the benefit of a high end model, especially when used with an external orchestrator.idk man, you undervalue the stinkpad I think
>>109905975how does that work? you sub to their go thing a month and get 60 bucks?
>>109906252>you sub to their go thing a month and get 60 bucks?reverse onlyfans
>>109906010>>109906167I add to the other anon's point. There are so many apps that work but are like "oh you used the app for 3mins better pay $29.99 per month to continue using it". If you make good usable alternatives you're doing some fine work
dario is cookin
>>109906252you get $60 of deepseek api usage by buying their $10 sub every month.
>>109906209Lightweight, I just can’t stand how everyone has to be a le streamer or le content creator to make money anymore. You’re probably right, though. About “coding in the open” like that, how do vibebros do that and keep their repo private so that it’s not just instantly copied? I guess that doesn’t even matter anymore, since frontier models could just reverse engineer and replicate it in a prompt or two anyway…
we must pace the frontier!
>>109906274you get 60 bucks every month?pretty cool
>>109906273kek why are niggas acting like opus is a lambo and sol is a crippled donkey
>>109906273>compare sonnet and lunalet's see if sonnet can stand against sol outside 3d shits
>>109906296they sum fruity niggas fr fr
>>109906273I'm tired of influencers polluting any actual opinion with useless noise bros
>>109906308i predict it will. sol 6 is just terra 6 anyway.
>>109906281>I just can’t stand how everyone has to be a le streamer or le content creator to make money anymoreNo you don't need to be, it's just baffling anyone thinks a shitty timesheet app will magically start making money. I can spin up an app like that in about an hour, what value is there?The skill requirement is zero and the barrier to entry is $25 (android) / $100 (apple) for app store access for a year. What in the world do you expect? Was there some drought of people dreaming about yet another timekeeping app that they'd go and seek yours?
>>109906324>sol 6 is just terra 6wait what? they renamed it?
>>109906311this. worse the subhuman dogs read these dog dumb's hot take noise and go hue hue hue dis is da facts my favorite youtube whore said so. and much seal clapping from the dog dumbs happens.
>>109906272Mine has a pretty solid free tier, and an option to upgrade to premium for a one-time fee of 3 bucks. I don’t have a server or backend, so it’s not logging or selling your data. I can’t stand subscriptions and having to create an account for every-fucking-thing, so I designed it to not have those.
>>109906324I predict .5 point better at 4x cost
>>109906332no, but terra 6 would have been sol 5.6 tier, just with terra pricing. well... look at what sol 6 is. no capability improvement, just cheaper and more efficient.
>>109906161I like it. For a long time I've been playing with the idea of making a fallout type game where the places and quests are dynamically generated like that. A quest might be generated because the growth of a village is being suppressed by monsters nearby or whatever. You could also just dump resources into a town and make it grow, but then you might make the mayor or whatever a powerful guy who fucks you over in the end because you're a threat to his power over the others. He would basically give quests to npcs to kill you, after each failure the quest parameters grow so there's more npcs attacking you at the same time.
>>109906308kek are you implying luna is good at code
>>109906324I predict new Sagittarius A model mogging everything
>>109906340if opus 5.5 sipping usage while obliterating anything in it's path is anything to go off of, sonnet 5.5 is going to sip less usage than sol does. the only way i can see them nerfing these models is to nerf quota again. maybe another 17% cut.
>>109906338how do you check auth if you do not have a backend
>>109906349it's ok
>copexturds already seething
>>109905390Another comfy day using American made S U P E R I N T E L L I G E N C E
>>109906281your thinking is in the 2010s. programming is cheap and democratized now so if you want to make money you have to think differently about your product. find some niche application that doesn’t depend on App/play Store discoverability, which requires you to talk to people in various industries. or build legitimately useful meta-tooling for AI. everything else has been thought of or can be copied
>>109906361copexturd claudekek jeetmini UNITE
>>109906373Saar where is Gemini 4 Poo???
>>109906357cmon now, luna is worse than deepseek and deepseek is the ultimate dirt cheap choice
>>109906331I just wanted to make something helpful and build a revenue stream. Even if I only get a handful of free users, having an actually-shipped app with users would be good on a resume.
v4.1 flash > 5.3 flash >>>> 5.6 luna > 6 luna
>>109906373>no deepsneed-1000 social credit
>>109906347>where the places and quests are dynamically generated like thatRandomly generated fetch quests, exactly what Real Gamers (tm) have been wanting all along. You should send your resume to the no mans sky company, or possibly bethesda
niggas talkin bout copex while ignorin they capex
>>109906356Claude said the premium purchase is handled by their AppleID. I have one test purchase and the money came through legitly, and there’s a “clawback” that runs in the event of a refund. Idk, Claude said that stuff’s handled by Apple, I’m just a vibecoder.
>>109906355opus 5.5 has high intelligence per token so it can do hard tasks for cheap meanwhile claude often been weaker than gpt at scaling intelligence with reasoning, their token output would explode at higher reasoning and harder tasks and would cost a lot
>>109906392>Even if I only get a handful of free users, having an actually-shipped app with users would be good on a resume.make a frogfilter extension
>>109906425that makes sense if it's mobile only dw
>>109906364>or build legitimately usefulbuild legitimately useful anything197th app that does $thing isn't going anywhere without a lot of marketing money, for obvious reasons. solve an actual problem.I made an app that displayed all the local charging points in my area, with a reasonable guess about their state and historical prices, mostly because i live in a shithole where charging infra sucks. that got some users, because it solved a problem that people had and there weren't twenty different solutions for it already. i couldve pushed further with a shim for payments etc but that would be a pain so i just left it as is, but the point is - i didn't need to pay for marketing as i wasnt competing with anybody with money for marketingif i can compete with you by pointing claude at your app and saying "1. describe this app, 2. ok now create an app from the description" you probably aren't going to get rich off of that
>>109906194I've been here since 2007, butthurt retard.Your reading comprehension is garbage.
>>109906364You’re legit right, I gotta go back to the drawing board. I’m gonna leave my app up, I mean it’s already there, but gotta brainstorm my next project.
>>109906457you're*
>>109906433What is that?>>109906436Yep, it’s only for iPhone rn.
>>109906462You're*
>>109906453That’s a good idea, anon. Pretty sick you got some legit users. I will have to look for something where there’s real demand but not many existing solutions/competition, instead of the already-saturated field that I made one for.
>>109906499ur right
>>109906402That's all rpgs are. Stopping powderganger raids on goodsprings would give a lot more satisfaction if we could see that affect the town over time. Your reputation with the people of goodsprings would also make you competition to the leaders in town.
>>109906392don't give up brosef. it's your first shipped app, you are already ahead of 95% I wanted to write down my advice but >>109906453 perfectly encapsulates it: Solve a real problem, make it good, people will recommend your software. Worked for the other anon, worked for me, several times
109906457awesome story fanfic anon, good for you. still after I showed up first year. now do larp more as you amuse me in your butt seethe and larp you're going to tell me what you think wrongly it is. anyways your cute claims of 2007 are nice but your posting style and lack of knowledge screams 2020+. run along now kid the adults are talking and your derailing with your tism and refusal to be wrong. I accept your concession in your attempts to lie about years you werent here. you dont remember haley, werent here for the rise of pedobear, didnt witness the bumbles post in the fallout 3 and have no idea r9k was a rage board at one point nor here for year 1. run along now sport as any replies after are just you flailing around and breaking things in your butt rage you're some child and here after 2020 and larping you know things>oh no the anon is not quoting directly and rewriting things and using it in other ways people do>oh no trollkid is larping he was here in 2007 but has no idea this is more than a quotelol, lmao. back to >>>/b/ you go underage. this isn't your reddit or blusky sport.
>>109906453>make app I wanted for myself>release it on the store cause why not>if it gains even a modicum of traction, cool>if it, I still have an app I wantedVibenigs thinking it's some goldrush have zero idea about how cutthroat app store is. There have been entire outfits that do nothing but (manually!) clone apps that gain even a sliver of a traction, then strangle your own growth by paying for ads on your app's name / idea, 90% of the time there's nothing you could do about them. Those existed since... 2018 or so? So all manual work, a team of 4-5 people that just shit out app clones all day, with a hundred times your knowledge and experience on how to play the app store and fake grassroots marketing.And that was before AI got the marginal cost of basic app development to be pretty much zero.
>>109906529Why this seethe? It's a fact that I've been here since 2007, and you sound like an election tourist. I can tell from your choicer of words, your incoherent seethe, and the fact that you do the passive aggressive faggot thing with not quoting/linking the post you reply to correctly.
>>109906555>t's a fact that I've been here since 2007you spent 19 years of your life posting frog reaction images?
>>109906576No. Most older posters hate frogs because newfags flooded the site with frogposting.
When Sonnet and Haiku 5.5 release you have to bake images of a new harem.
>>109906592yup. and fable must have BLACK AS NIGHT panties
>>109906586>Most older posters hate frogs
>>109906601If Trump isn't proof that the lizardmen running this simulation are just fucking with us, I don't know what is
>>109906601trump is desperately trying to make fetch happen, like elon with "x," but it won't happen
sol low is... pretty damn competent.
>>1099065862007 is when newfags flooded the site and the internet as whole. I first came here in 2003 and love frogs.
10990655. "seethe", "election tourist" (2020+ phrases), "I can tell from your choicer of words" (I can tell from your words kid but nice no u attempt sport), "incoherent seethe" (odd your seethe is not seethe but my replies and callouts are seethe and incoherent. strange), "passive aggressive" (larping how I talk based on your fragile state), "faggot", (fabricating my sexuality), "not quoting/linking the post you reply to correctly" (larping thats the only way it is used), I seeing a pattern from you and its comical. go away kid.still larping my emotions anon. mark of a child for sure. your lies from 2007 are quaint but tedious. you sure are defensive anon. better get on topic and stop derailing over your lies and fantasy posts of years not here.
>>109906601>3 likesHi Donald.
imagine seething when you could instead be worshipping astra-chan's thighs
>>109906601Forced meme.
>>109906657SMASH. I hate vibecoding but I'd call her queen and do push ups while she sits on my back
>>109906586>Most older posters hate frogs becausebecause they're old and jaded and hate that they're like 50 years old by nowfrogs are based
>>109906525Thank you for the kind words, anon. I’m gonna keep at it 100%
>>109906657prompt???????????????Or more??????????
>>109906640Doubt. If you were, you'd be anime aligned and would know about /a/'s frog hate.
>>109906676it's not mine. another chad made it, i just took it
>>109906551That’s hella unscrupulous, Bro. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and pay a little bit for some ads, hopefully it will gain some traction after that. Who knows?
>>109906657
>>109906679Anime is gay and your appeals to consensus are gayer.
claudefrauds absolutely fucking exposed lmfaobtw you can play the same game the benchmark uses on the site, it’s very simplehttps://x.com/bradthomasbrown/status/2103528980183720099>TL:DR>Opus 5.5 worse than GTP-6 Astra AND GPT-6 Sol
>>109906699That's weird because 4chan started out as anime hobbyist website. Even the board software is a clone of a japanese site.
>>109906676that AIchad made some character sheets if you reverse search this on archive you probably find the astra one
