>>30477233
And if you take a look at the electronic equipment in the Mythbusters version, here,
>>30477231

there's a spike. But along that spike, there's also other weaker reflected photons.

That spike and how powerful it is, prove that there's a real man made reflector on the Moon surface.

>>30477238
This is false. The reason why it's illuminated, even on the shadow side is the atmosphere.

Moon doesn't have atmosphere, therefore the light is much more harsh. Although reflective, almost dark surface, does illuminate shadows on a Moon too, but just a little bit.

That's the reason why during the bright sunny day, there's no fall off... Oh but fuck off, there is. Try to go to sea shore and watch in the same direction where the Sun is. You will see the fall off because the Sun will burn your eyes when it reflect from the water surface. As you all could see, there's fall off, even at the Earth, when there's dimmer light. You can see that dimmer light causing fall off for example during full moon when you watch sea surface.

>>30477252
Listen carefully. He says "the light turned low."

Those are the magic words. He could see the lights only when the lights inside the module were turned low. Eyes aren't really good at gather light. When there's Sun, illuminating the surface and when they have to concentrate on the surface, their eyes can't adjust to get the dim light of stars.

sir this is adult gif you're looking for /x/ or your medication bottle.

>>30477312
That's too easy. The way the flag is waving is way too slow if it would be on earth and there would be wind. The reason why it's moving is because the flagpole is in contact with the ground. When the astronaut moves, by jumping around, the movement goes through ground to the pole, making the flag eventually move.

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>>30477330
fake news about the moon landings is only for adults

They're preparing another decade of façades with Artemis II btw. Sometimes I wonder who does this, if it's the jews like always or just entitled Americans, since Americans doesn't seem to care about all these fakery going on for decades now, except for a few awake ones.

The first moon landing was a Hollywood thing, so the jews were obviously behind it, but I wonder if now it's still the same or just the government trying to mask things up when the US is losing another war fighting for the jews.

>>30477227
Based retard

>>30477227
As always, I join with a wish you get better and turn your life around.

>>30477227
Aulis.com
The Apollo space suit was a scam too. made in britain, sealed with zippers. Never succesfully vaccuum tested before launch. Also the lander was never sucessfully landed in simulations. One simulation nearly killed the astronots. Also there are no pictures or video of the rover being assembled on the surface, something that would have been absolutely impossible and extremely risky given the low quality of the suits. No pictures or videos exist of an astronaut ingressing or egressing the vehicle, which was impossible on earth without a team of three men to help the astronaut out of the rover. The seat position did not allow the driver to bring his center of gravity forward to stand or get out of the rover. The fact that India claims to have landed on the Moon should tell us everything we need to know.

>>30477227
hahahah what a looser

Stanley Kubrick bros any answer?

>>30477227
Sauce?

There's already multiple tranny threads. Did we really need yet another mentally ill one?

>>30477537
americans only care about circumcision and supporting israel. guess who is behind both of those things

>>30477251
no point trying to convince you, youre just a mossad kike, but the evidence against it being a proof of mans mission to the moon is within the video you replied to

>>30477282
nice made up crap about the moon man, is that from an issue of popular mechanics?
in any case the surface of the moon is relatively flat in the examples shown and there is obviously no reason for those areas to be less illuminated. pulling and helping to pull the wool over the eyes of the innocent is indefensible at the gates of heaven, i rebuke thee satan

>>30477251
you aimed at a shoebox from 250,000 miles away with a laser

>>30477537
there's a huge symbolic component

>>30477666
>nearly killed
he compared it to a lemon that would never fly and
>nearly
went away

>>30477666
to your last point, the gravity is 1/6th and air pressure irrelevant. is that even with those considerations

>>30477537
>They're preparing another decade of façades with Artemis II btw.
It is going to be much more difficult to fake it this time. There are too many people with unprecedented reach watching.

Why are moon landing hoaxers always such fags?

>>30478090
when the fuck did pol get sound webms?

>>30477251
Now explain how you know what they're telling you is true. I can run a program on my computer hooked up to some equipment and tell you it proves whatever the hell I want. You cannot independently set up equipment that you know objectively and implicitly sends a laser beam to the Moon and receives it back. You have to trust people who are funded by the very government that pushes the Moon lie to tell you it happened.

Why do you trust them?

If US Moon landings were truly a hoax, China, Russia, Iran and North Korea would shout it from the rooftops non-stop. Such grand conspiracy theories are full of shit. Real conspiracies are much more pedestrian.

>>30477227
>>30477229
>>30477231
Does anyone know the name of the film these were taken from? I'd like to get the whole thing.

>>30478007
apparently they were able to assemble the rover and use it with 100% success rate. just like every mission except 13 was a 100% success. i think thats mathematically impossible considering how many astronauts died after apollo - but im retarded what do i know.

>>30477330
>sir you're only allowed to post porn, gore, or fligu here
>stop posting objectionable and subversive shit that might provoke people

>>30477243
Is that porn on the table?
Who is the lady in red?

>>30478270
Sysco supplies nearly every restaurant. >if Chili's knew about Olive Garden's endless breadsticks they would surely make a commercial!

>>30478086
it might as well be a Marvel movie. do any of the ocean of commentators make any difference there?

>>30477537
It's both. Jews get off on the innate deception while fanatical Americans will defend American lies to their dying breath. That's why both either call us crazy or call us traitors for daring to doubt.

>>30478364
What's wrong with talking about this in an NSFW environment? It's by far the healthiest topic here, one of the few things that isn't about masturbation, racism, Nazism, and morbid sadism. Relax, dude.

>>30478270
All those countries you listed lied about innumerable aspects of their governance for decades and still maintain many of them to this day. Why would they call out a lie when they rely on constant lying for their very existence?

>>30478428
I was mocking the complaining about it being posted here. Relax, dude.

>>30478438
:)~

First you get used by epstein and now this? There's no way ya'll are this retarded

>>30478405
>Unrelated shit that only makes sense if you are already a schizo

Sure buddy

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Crazy how the flag stays the exact same shape in photos even though it was all staged on Earth

>>30478449
>dude massive conspiracies only exist about child fucking rings
>not about space, man, c'mon, that's insane

>>30478463
yeah man you can't make things stand still on earth. lol fucking schizos thinkin crazy shit

Look... there were reasons for the United States to fabricate a hoax. And we know that the United States has a history of "democratic hoaxes." So... considering the numerous inconsistencies surrounding this (the photos are, by far, the biggest proof of fraud, so much so that they threw the "greatest historical record of the United States" in the trash), it's reasonable to doubt the official version.

>>30478463
I'm sure
>extra starch
is a line in your favorite Mad Men style bullshit

>>30478259
>I'm too stupid to do math, therefore Jews.

>>30478634
I didn't mention jews, and I can do math just fine. You avoided my question.

>>30478270
Plus the sheer number of people who would need to be in on the conspiracy, not just in the US
Why haven't there been any NASA whistleblowers or deathbed admissions? ACTUAL whistleblowers, not Paul Hellyer-type schizos who can never keep their story straight and keep getting more outlandish in old age

>>30478830
money and access to kid farms???

>>30478825
Format yourself clanker

>>30478830
>Plus the sheer number of people who would need to be in on the conspiracy
Do you understand how many freemasons there are in the world? How many members of other secret societies exist? How many brotherhoods and other groups keep each others secrets? This "I can't believe a lot of people would keep a secret" meme is so tiresome. Jeffrey Epstein's crimes were kept secret by a worldwide consortium of people.

>>30478296
All I could find is that this would have been made between 2008-2017.

>>30478296
>>30479402
>"American Moon"

>>30477227
Why would Russia go along with the story? They tracked the missions independently and came to the conclusion we made it to the moon. What incentive would there have been for our biggest competitor at the time to accept it, unless it was provably true?

>>30478469
>dude our guy promised to give us the secrets
>I knew I was smarter than everyone else to suspect foul play
>two more weeks and we take them all down
L M A O
M
A
O

>>30479524
>Why would Russia go along with the story?
Why would Russia go along with the story of the holocaust? Arguing that X must be true because Y didn't dispute it is an example of a logical fallacy.

>>30477227
>Scotch tape

They don't know about kapton tape

>>30479718
>They don't know about kapton tape
Yeah, this one was pretty weak. But the points made in the other videos are a lot stronger. OP should probably have opened with one of the stronger points than that video.

>>30477227
The globe model still makes all predictions with 100% accuracy, all day, every day

The flat earth still has no model and no use at all

As long as we can agree on this, you can question the moon landings all day.

>>30479684
>why would russia go along with the idea a nation that invaded them and killed their citizens would have committed a massive genocide
Not sure what point you're trying to make here

>>30479892
>why would Russia go along with a story about a genocide
>it's not like they committed any of their own genocides that they'd like attention drawn from
What is the holodomor?

>>30479718
Kapton tape only handles temperatures about 500 degrees fahrenheit, while the thermosphere reaches several thousand degrees. Your move.

>>30477282
Moon landing deniers get basic shit like this wrong constantly. Basic math, basic facts about light, physics, logistics - it's just impossible to take them seriously.

And if you force the point and get them to accept that they were wrong on any particular point they'll just say 'fine fine, but what about all this OTHER stuff?' As though I'm supposed to be overwhelmed by the sheer volume of arguments and not persuaded by their correctness.

The worst part is they'll be repeating the stuff they admitted was wrong within a week. Bunch of idiots the lot of them.

>>30479684
Deflect harder retard. Answer the fucking question, why would our direct competitor in the space race accept the narrative that we won if it wasn't true?

>>30479916
NTA but okay. Saturn V's only spent ~11 min in the thermosphere. The extreme altitude/low density means that heat transfer takes much longer than normal, the inside of the craft (where the lander is stored) is also insulated and shielded. space is a very bad medium for transferring heat that's why summer and winter are caused by Earth's tilt and not its distance to the Sun.

>>30480151
>the inside of the craft (where the lander is stored) is also insulated and shielded.
The lander isn't stored when it returns. Your move.

>>30480162
the lander stays on the surface retard

>>30478405
Except Olive Garden gets their bread sticks from third party suppliers, usually local bakeries, not Sysco.

>>30480162
>big rocket goes up
>first separation into the command module
>command module turns 180 and pulls the LEM out
>command module and LEM go into lunar orbit
>LEM detaches and descends down
>fun astronaut stuff
>ascent module detaches from lander
>docks with command module to disembark crew/unload cargo then detach
>command module returns to earth
>reentry capsule detaches from the rest of the command module
>ceramic heat shield protects the crew and cargo for the decent
>now we have space rocks that chemically unique to anything that has formed on earth
Hope that helps

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>>30479952
government believers, forget basic facts
such as 3 years prior to the moon landing (1976) israel attacked the USS liberty with our knowledge and your government lied about it
or...
the jfk assassination was in 1963 (6 years before the moon landing) and they lied and covered up israels connection
or....
the bay of pigs PSYOP in 1961 (8 years before the moon landing) the cia ADMITS the false flag operation in public records even today.
or....
20 years before the landing the holohoax was well circulated with EDITED FAKE PHOTOS and VIDEOS....

but then you call them retarded for not having trust in the government
lmao.
they lost that a long time ago for anyone with an attention span

>>30480318
>>30479952
>(1976) israel attacked the USS liberty
*1967
not that you'll even read it anyways since you're either
retarded or a paid shill

>>30480084
>why would our direct competitor in the space race accept the narrative that we won if it wasn't true?
Why did our direct competitor (Nazi Germany) in WW2 accept the narrative that Patton's fake army consisting of inflatable rubber tanks was going to invade at Pas-de-Calais as opposed to Eisenhower's real army invading Normandy as what actually happened?

>inb4 but they tracked the rocket independently
They certainly did track a rocket. It might even have went to the moon legitimately. That doesn't mean there was an actual crew on board it. An unmanned dummy rocket coupled with the astronauts filmed on a studio set is how this whole thing was staged.

The unmanned rocket might even have placed the laser reflector the Mythbusters cited as "proof" that the moonlanding was legit. There was no need for a manned crew in order to place that reflector there. So there being a reflector there does not prove that a manned landing happened.

>>30480229
>now we have space rocks that chemically unique to anything that has formed on earth
Petrified wood, thanks for playing.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32581790

>>30477233
This is retarded. Of course some light will always be reflected back. But the level of light will be much greater when pointed at the man made reflector. Two completely different experiments.

>>30477978
Yes but a laser point becomes 2KM wide when it actually hits the moon. Its not hard to hit a 2km target.

>>30480464
Prove that the level of light is much greater from the reflectors. Oh wait, you can't, because you have to go back to a government-funded observatory with a financial incentive to back up its funders' lie in order to do that.

>>30479952
>And if you force the point and get them to accept that they were wrong on any particular point they'll just say 'fine fine, but what about all this OTHER stuff?'
This is standard operating procedure for nutters. Just bombard you with bullshit in the hopes that you'll be overwhelmed and either quit or concede.

>>30479952
Goycattle award.

>>30480805
getting someone to admit that they are wrong when they are actually correct isn't that hard it just requires pressure and confidence just make them doubt and that they are stupid for thinking otherwise and that you happen to be an expert
easiest shit to pull off but usually someone concedes not because they actually think they are wrong but because its a waste of time to argue

>>30477227
Artemus is through the Van Allen Belts and no one has died.

How is this possible?

Reminder that "debating" moon landing deniers, flat earthers, gravity deniers, and other stupid people in these categories is a waste of time. The only way to debate them is to have the conversation in person, and have them write out with specific detail exactly what their claims are one at a time, and address them one at a time. Otherwise they will continuously move the goalposts, resort to trolling, or fall silent whenever they are cornered.

The most important part by far is the need to make them be very specific about what they mean and what they believe. They speak in general terms or they make many minor criticisms without ever saying something falsifiable and with a point. Force them to be specific and you've done half the work already.

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>>30480925
REMINDER
'debating' government believers is a waste of time.
they simple 'forget'
government believers, forget basic facts
3 years prior to the moon landing (1967) israel attacked the USS liberty with our knowledge and your government lied about it
or...
the jfk assassination was in 1963 (6 years before the moon landing) and they lied and covered up israels connection
or....
the bay of pigs PSYOP in 1961 (8 years before the moon landing) the cia ADMITS the false flag operation in public records even today.
or....
20 years before the landing the holohoax was well circulated with EDITED FAKE PHOTOS and VIDEOS....

but yeah, they didn't fake the moon landing you schizo

>>30480913
Can you prove anyone was even on Artemis?

Why, no. No, you cannot.
>BUT THERE WAS VIDEO
Prove it was on there and not somewhere else.

>>30479952
>And if you force the point and get them to accept that they were wrong on any particular point they'll just say 'fine fine, but what about all this OTHER stuff?' As though I'm supposed to be overwhelmed by the sheer volume of arguments and not persuaded by their correctness.
In other words
>if I get you on one point, stop bringing up other points, because I've already won
The hallmark of the pseudointellectual.

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>>30480996
uh chud, the government said so....
besides jews don't lie and there are a lot of jews in power

>>30480972
Cool story bro. I have a buddy that says the exact same kind of canned sensationalist shit as you do. I've been "debating him" for almost a decade off and on and every time he hits a dead end I always get the "I'll send you the link" shit and he never does. All attempts to debate with you people is a waste of time, because being a moon landing denier is not a singular thing you and unconvinced of as strictly a matter of fact, it's a culture for you and it's an identity.

Getting me to understand that some commonly accepted fact about the world is actually false isn't a big deal, since I don't really have any investment in whether or not we landed on the moon. But for people like you, it's just one facet of a personality that must be contrarian as a matter of course. I know you're not just a moon landing denier. You probably believe the earth is flat, gravity isn't real, evolution isn't real, the speed of light is made up as part of a bigger false narrative, vaccines are part of a globalist eugenics effort, all the music you listen to has been designed to make you subliminally want to suck off bbcs and worship Jews, the list is endless because stupid people have infinite number of delusions they can believe in to make themselves feel special.
Now pretend you didn't read all of this in your reply..

>>30477227
Just don't

>>30480925
I feel like this one is pretty simple. You believe that they invented the cordless drill and less than a decade later they landed on the moon. Before data storage, before computer simulation, before unleaded gasoline.

But strangely, even 60 years later they cannot duplicate this. The best we can do is fly by. This is what you believe.
I'm not embarrassed to be skeptical voice here.
https://youtu.be/KpuKu3F0BvY?si=_Ht9GGHlq7y_cnXN
Presumably you will not examine the arguments presented above... but why?

>>30481024
Your anecdotal citation has nothing to do with facts. This is how I know you're a fake intellectual trying to browbeat others into silence with cheap shaming tactics. The fact that you use such tactics demonstrates you're threatened by skepticism.

>>30481024
>You probably believe the earth is flat, gravity isn't real, evolution isn't real, the speed of light is made up as part of a bigger false narrative, vaccines are part of a globalist eugenics effort, all the music you listen to has been designed to make you subliminally want to suck off bbcs and worship Jews
all false, nice straw mans
lets stick to the topic
has your government lied before? yes or no?
if so, can you blame people for not trusting they walked the moon 6 times over the course of 3 years consecutively...
but now we haven't walked it in over 50 years. but conveniently when AI catches up to 100% fool proof fakes we probably will go there 'again'
lmao

>>30480925
>Force them to be specific
I don't know if you've watched the videos posted throughout this thread, but specific points were made in them. That gives you something fixed you can address, if you are so inclined.

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>>30481035
a paid shill, its simple. all he is.
he'll post
>da joooooz strawmans
while denying we've been dealing with fake photos and videos for at least 80+ years

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>>30481044
>That gives you something fixed you can address, if you are so inclined.
oh no, lets strawman "duh moon deniers" into flat earth, gravity/evolution being false and other irrelevant topics

>>30481024
Just saw a video about guys like what you're talking about, and people ITT. The deal is, they truly believe the stuff they're saying, and there will ALWAYS be a rebuttal. You have to literally start at the very beginning, the most basic, as in you have to get them to admit that facts are real, then plant the seed that possibly one fact that they believe in may be wrong, then let them do the rest themselves. You will never convince them otherwise, they have to come to the conclusions themselves. And most will never change.

can't believe it's 2026 and people are still this retarded

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>>30481068
yeah samefagging shill. its like when the government has lied to you before you no longer extend good faith to them and take them at their word anymore.
wild concept, i know

>>30479952
Yes, basic physics. How big of a Television Antenne do you need to broadcast from the moon? How much power does it use? How much better should the Artimis Livesteam be?

>believe science
>the same science that is responsible for nano plastics being found in placentas now
uh no I don't think I will

>>30480913
Because the Van Allen Belt isn't anywhere near as strong as these armchair scientists seem to think it is.
You're not going to die from two hours of exposure to it.

>>30480996
That’s just childish crazy talk. You can see the spacecraft with a telescope and the crew are sending pictures back in real time. You need professional medical help.

>>30481041

Im not the same guy but this is something I want to make a few points on

>if so, can you blame people for not trusting they walked the moon 6 times over the course of 3 years consecutively...
>but now we haven't walked it in over 50 years. but conveniently when AI catches up to 100% fool proof fakes we probably will go there 'again'

Part of the reason the moon landings happened was to have a proxy war with Russia, exert a soft power win. China is right now trying to get a moon project going, the US government feels it again has to exert its soft power because its a failing empire.

They stopped going to the moon because it was extremely expensive, and once the general public stopped being interested in it, the benefits were limited. Space is extremely complicated and dangerous, its actually pure luck that the moon didn't get hit with solar winds during the early missions. As our understanding of space and the solar system has grown in the past 60 years, and the full dangers understood, its seen as not really worth it. Moon rocks were kind of cool but not incredibly ground breaking.

Its also really hard to manufacture ships to support human life, who knew that moving all manufacturing overseas would cripple the countries ability to manufacture complex machinery. China has spent the past 50 years going so hard on STEM education and now have an army of coders and engineers for their space program; that is what the US had in the 60s.

The biggest lie they feed us is that the moon landings are for scientific study, when it was just another win the US government wanted. They are fully willing to risk Astronauts again to get the win (but lets be real they want to do it even if it means death lmao)

You are making links with AI because they are happening in close proximity in time, I'm sure that makes sense to you but that's not what's going on.

>>30478404
Fuck off gooner.

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>>30481200
>Part of the reason the moon landings happened was to have a proxy war with Russia
would you not agree there is war of propaganda and you could easily do a lot with a $300 billion in todays money? like it may be cheaper to fake a video than to actually, ya know, go the the moon
>China is right now trying to get a moon project going, the US government feels it again has to exert its soft power because its a failing empire.
because there is an expiration date on a country with open borders.
>pure luck
lol
You are making links with AI because they are happening in close proximity in time, I'm sure that makes sense to you but that's not what's going on.
oh yeah, the government just subsidizes it for no reason. you know because it gives us so many great things...

be honest, whats the real power of AI? isn't the ability to eventually fake things and pass them as real?
yes, i'll answer my own question since you're probably an LLM zoomer with shit for brains

>>30480885
>denies the greatest achievement in White history
>calls other people goycattle
kys nigger faggot

>>30478259
You can do this with ham radio equipment. I have.

The jew controls right wing retards with conspiracies like this. You're smart enough to understand the math, you're just willfully ignorant because the goyslop propaganda pipeline worked on you.

>>30481338
238,855 miles to the moon. Explain it to me like you understand the math. How big, and how much power output does it take to BROADCAST a TV signal from the moon to the earth.
This is not a trick question, you believe this happened, it should be an easy factoid that has a series of replications. If Tim Pool was setting up his livestream from the moon, what would be his loadout?

>>30481079
Naw, I'm not a samefag, and they also told you the truth on numerous occasions. I guarantee you've rarely if ever thought of that though, and probably won't admit it.

>>30477227
>the government is incompetent and cannot make a believable spacecraft
also
>the government is so competent that no government employee or contractor has ever leaked proof that any of this shit is fake
ahh yes, the super incompetent ubercompetent government fallacy

How droll.

>>30477227
Only brown vermin think the moon landing was fake.

>>30482247
I used to believe it 100% but then when I saw how stupid people were during COVID believing whatever they were told and poisoning themselves, things changed. I began to question everything we've been sold as "truth", including the moon landing.

Of all the killshots for this retarded conspiracy, Russia is absolutely the most brutal to swallow, and everyone in this thread thus far has only proved this with deflections when the topic is mentioned.

Russia not only didn't deny the moon landings, they actively affirmed they occurred. Neil went on a tour in 1970 to Leningrad and directly interacted with, among others, the premier of the USSR, who is quoted saying “The Soviet peoples are second to none in admiring your courage and knowledge.” They published a congratulations on the front page of the official newspaper for the Central Committee. There are even officials to this day that have affirmed the legitimacy of the mission (i.e Yury Borisov verifying lunar soil samples). It is undeniable that they were thoroughly aware of the mission, tracked it, and congratulated them after it occurred.

To claim the moon landings didn't happen is to say that you, a 34-year-old schizophrenic virgin, personally know more than the entirety of Cold War era Russian intelligence. You must know you're kidding yourself here.

>>30482328
Oh please. The powers in Russia could have easily been paid off to say whatever was necessary. Doing the contrary, such as proving the moon landings were a hoax, would be destabilizing, potentially worldwide. No leaders want that, even those that hate each other. They risk losing their power over their people.

>>30482338
>could have easily
Stop projecting your feeble will upon everybody else.

>>30482328
>he still doesnt know countries are an illusion

Notice how the shills reddit-space. They stick out like hell

>>30482328

Also i know most of you newfags are too young to realise this, but if you had a radio antenna and a computer and knew what you were doing you could literally point it at the moon while it was happening and receive a weak signal broadcast of the data and communication from the moon while it was happening... It was all completely unencrypted.

You wouldn’t see that signal coming from anywhere but the moon.

>>30482721
>Notice how the shills reddit-space.
You mean like moot himself also did?

>>30482328
This holy shit. Even to this day in the middle of all the shit Russia still insists the landings happened. Some Best Korea startup trained an LLM and tried to sell it to Russia and in their pitch their LLM told Putin that the moon landings were faked. Putin laughed in the faces and didn't buy it.

Moon landing denial or flat earth? What the most lolcow conspiracy?

To my understanding, the large majority of people I see thinking this shit is real are intense drug addicts (especially alcohol).
The mind is capable of so much understanding if you stop bludgeoning it to death. Seek less side-effective treatments for what ails you. You're not alone, and nothing that happened before should keep you from making today better.

>>30483034

https://x.com/TedLogan1010/status/2040239246108197034

lol moon landing mostly recent. Wow, the sun seems so "far" away.

>>30483034
Flat Earth at least has a contrived interpretation where it could be true. If your reference coordinate plane is progressively larger spheres that originate at the center of the Earth, then yeah the Earth can be "flat". The math for predicting celestial movements gets very complex but it does work out. Not that this makes any difference. The Earth is still round but you call it "flat" and treat it as such and now have a complex set of equations to solve to know e.g. the phase of the Moon.

>>30482328
yeah a lot of us used to have that russia cope. Now you see even a country like Iran has over 70% vax rate for covid, like some other anon said, countries as some kind of sovereign, independent thinking nation are bullshit. Its also not good logic to ignore the mountain of fakery and say 'oh but russia would have said something' Would they? I wouldn't believe any of them. Its 'factory Earth' and the best they can be as a prime minister/president is the manager of their local plant.
As for this little weirdo >>30482982
we've all seen that Putin video. Easily searchable, what a dumb lie. In the video they have photos from the chink lunar rover and original Apollo mission. The Ai said the apollo was fake, not the chinks and all Putin said was 'interesting'. You're a lil dweeb telling absolute lies.

>>30482515
>Stop projecting your feeble will upon everybody else.
Stop being so obtuse. It's a cold, mean world out there. I mean you don't really think a race that comprises just 8% of the global population really created "institutionalized racism" all over the world, do you? You were told that and you believe it because you're low IQ. They'll lie again the second they need to because they've created and imported an entire subclass of leftist brain dead morons who believe them no matter how obvious the lie is to the rest of us.

>>30477251
A few photons being reflected back? I don't know about that. That episode was interesting, but a bit sketchy. I don't doubt that the Russians actually sent something there, but the manned missions are a bit too mythical for me to swallow. Well, in two years we'll see Americans go there in hi-def and close-up, all live via YouTube – unless this fizzles out like the exploration of Mars.

>>30482328
despite the fact commercial airliners have to emergency land when a bird hits the plane's nose (such is the structural damage) https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/36146170/iberia-plane-hits-bird-emergency-landing/
We all know said planes can cause 110 story, reenforced steel and concrete buildings to collapse like on 911.
Because if they couldn't and all the governments (western govs at least) know this, they would have said something, right anon?

See how stupid your logic is? Don't leave your thinking and opinion to someone else you npc scum.

>>30483061
>here's what our world would actually look like

Why should I believe this retarded child?

>>30483177
I can't remember every little detail of every shitty video on the internet. You're real upset about this tho. More of that emotional stability I'd expect.

>>30477227
>>30477229
>>30477231
even if the moon landing was fake, will your life significantly change?
will you no longer need to go to work?
will you no longer need to pay your bills?
what exactly changes if the moon landing was faked?

>>30483247
i wouldn't expect you to remember everything anon.
But what you did was create an entire fairy-tale/false memory around that video.
You're snitching on yourself talking about emotion, when you are the one hallucinating shit to confirm your need for the moon shit to be real. Or maybe you just lied. Either way, fuck off.

>>30483226
>one conspiracy theory being false means they're all false
Childlike logic. But your thing about 9/11 actually did have a champion in a major world leader. Mohammad Morsi. Jews did him rough. Theoretically, he's still alive, but it's more likely Sisi ("tits" in Russian lol!) had him killed. "My favorite dictator"

>>30483257
I'm not that anon but this is a thread discussing that. So pulling out the feminine 'bUt HOw DoEs thIS EFfect You PERsOnAllY?' isn't an argument. If you're not interested go find another thread.

>>30482328
>To claim the moon landings didn't happen is to say that you, a 34-year-old schizophrenic virgin, personally know more than the entirety of Cold War era Russian intelligence.
What a long-winded strawman, since nobody here is claiming Russia didn't know it was fake.

>>30483265
The moon landing is real and every little piece on info about it for the rest of your life will torment you about it until you justbacceot facts.

>>30483266
>>one conspiracy theory being false means they're all false
yeah but i didn't say that did i? And i assume you mean true, not false.
My point is its fcking stupid to say something happened because some other entity, person, country hasn't denied it.
Look at the evidence yourself and make up your own mind - not 'but Daddy Russia hasn't said its false therefore it happened.' that's the childish shit in this thread.

>>30483257
>even if the moon landing was fake, will your life significantly change?
>will you no longer need to go to work?
>will you no longer need to pay your bills?
>what exactly changes if the moon landing was faked?
The hope is that humanity asks what else we've been lied to about, which is pretty much everything. Lies put humans into bondage. Truth comes before freedom.

>>30483278
bruh i'm in ireland watching the F.A. cup while i browse this thread. I really don't give a fuck. If the evidence lent towards it having happened I'd accept that. All i've seen over the years is fake shit so I go with that.
PS check out the challenger crew being all alive. That shit is hilarious.

>>30483308
once you see this for what it is, a little model in a toy remote controlled car, you can't unsee it.

>>30483295
You're being obtuse here. This isn't about Russia, it's about a huge body of evidence supporting the landings and it just happens that the entity that had most to gain by denying it actually confirms it. Dragging 9/11 or Covid into the discussion doesn't say anything about that point, nor the larger question of the moon landings.

>>30483331
>a huge body of evidence supporting the landings
Where? The telemetry data from all of the Apollo flights were "destroyed". 700 boxes of films were mysteriously "lost". Where is this huge body of evidence?

>>30483331
if there was a huge body of evidence i would believe it. But Nasa lost the original tapes, lost the raw telemetry data.
I used those 2 examples to demonstrate your theory does not hold water. Not sure why it is hard for you to grasp. You are saying something happened because 'Country A' did not deny it. There are countless false flags and contrived world events and for the most part what we get from our governments is consensus. Agenda 2030 benefits none of is, yet they're all lockstep marching us towards it. There is no hero rogue government going to deliver you the truth about anything..

>>30483307
>so btfo he has to watch grassball to settle his mind
Therapy

>>30483349
top kek. 'grassball' will never catch on - needs to be vaguely insulting. Like any american sport can be aptly called 'n!ggerball'

>>30483340
Okay, so where's the evidence of this massive coverup? There's only been thousands of leaks in the last 60 years. Notba single instance of "the moon landings were fake" in them.

>>30483365
i love this dumb shit. look bros we're on the moon. with the full 15-20 feet horizon on all sides. Definitely.

>>30483310
How can you trust the judgment of the man who chose that hat.

>>30483357
You can say nigger here. It's okay. Are you sure you're not American?

>>30483362
We could hardly make a car last 30k miles in the 1960's. Heck, we'd only been flying planes for 60 years. NASA couldn't get a rocket ship into low earth orbit at the time to save it's life. There was tremendous pressure to be "first to the moon." If we really got there, Russia would have gone too, even if they got there second. None of the pieces fit for an actual landing and all of them fit for a classic hoax by the powerful.

>>30481356
>How big, and how much power output does it take to BROADCAST a TV signal from the moon to the earth.
They don't BROADcast it. They beam it with directional antennas, so the distance means fuck all. The reason distance matters when BROADcasting in every direction is the percentage of the signal which hits your antenna gets lower with distance.

>>30480972
I believe we've been to the moon but the Apollo 11 videos are 100% fake
So idk if the mission never went, if they just did orbit and came back or what
We needed to say we went to bankrupt the USSR but I don't believe the 3 ever stepped out of a spacecraft except after landing back on earth

>>30483377
well shit, i got range banned for saying nigger last time. nope, sorry amerimutt i am not a fellow golem like you with a mutilated kike dick.
anyway, i gtg go out to eat, yall have a great day, you hear!

>>30483400
the problem with that thinking is we need to then invent even more fabulous shit. meaning that if they did indeed land 6 times with diff crews between 69-72 - then by 2026 they will be on saturn, maybe even interstellar. Or maybe space isn't what they tell us and that's the exotic fabulous part. I kinda tend to believe that side but I am aware even than goes against occam's razor. Meaning they didn't go because they couldn't go. IDK. We'll also never know. And any cool star trek shit will never be disclosed to us down here on factory Earth.

>>30483385
I thought directional broadcast ("beaming") worked because the signal is distorted in all directions except one. Analogous to a phase array radar. You're still losing all that energy in all directions, but the direction that can make sense of the signal is only 1.

That said there's not a lot of EM attenuation when you're in a perfect vacuum, and shortwave works with cheap ass consumer tech from 100 years ago, so the idea that space between Earth and Moon is just too much for a radio is dumb.

Man, I don't know if OP just wanted interactions or if people still actually believe we haven't been to the moon. I'm willing to bet he is American, because only Americans are stupid enough to think NASA is the only space agency in the world, or that its findings aren't scrutinized by global scientists who couldn't care less about US government intentions.

Look at the 382kg of moon rocks they brought back. Their geological signature is completely alien. Earth rocks form with water and oxygen; moon rocks show zero evidence of this. Faking that chemical absence in a 1960s lab was impossible. Plus, with no atmosphere to burn up space dust, the rocks are peppered with microscopic impact craters. These samples have been distributed to thousands of independent geologists worldwide for 50 years, and not a single credible one has raised a red flag.

Then there are the retroreflectors the Apollo missions left behind. To this day, independent observatories all over the globe routinely fire lasers at those exact coordinates to bounce light back and measure the moon's distance down to the millimeter. If the astronauts didn't place them there, who did?

We also don't just have to rely on NASA. Probes from India and China have independently photographed the Apollo landing sites and corroborated the exact locations of the hardware. China is actively competing with the US in space right now; they have absolutely no incentive to cover for a 50-year-old American lie.

Finally, the Soviets had their own advanced radar and telemetry tracking the Apollo spacecraft all the way to the lunar surface. If there was even a fraction of a chance the US faked it in a studio, the Soviets would have gleefully exposed the fraud to humiliate America on the global stage. Instead, they swallowed their pride and conceded defeat.
used AI to summarize my post, was too many characters, deal with it.

>>30483372
https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/distance-to-horizon

For a 6 ft observer, the horizon on the moon would be about 1 and a half miles away.

>>30477537
If it's fake, it's to print out more money in order to make people pay back the interest through work. Money itself is worthless; only work has value. (Say what you will, but I call our whole monetary system just slavery.) And the worst case scenario in this all is that Trump, Putin, Iran – everyone – is on the same behind the scenes: the Soviets knew that the Yanks were just bullshitting and so on. Scary. It kind of pulls the rug off pretty much everything. And if they really can't go the Moon that kind of a sad cul-de-sac for mankind, isn't it. In short: war is great business and I think it's the primus motor; the driving forece behind everything.

>>30481122
Why is the video footage always so crappy? This time it's like it was made on a Commodore 64 some 40 years ago. That doesn't appease the suspicious. Another thing I don't get are those videos of the weird physics from the moonwalk videos that can be seen on the beginning of this very thread as well. They really don't look like anything of a gravity that would be a sixth of the one here on Earth. Or maybe the Moon gravity just feels and looks different? Who the fuck knows. I have my hopes for seeing a plausable Moon landing in a couple of years as they promised.

let's say I believe you; what now?
What's your plan of action?
What are you going to do?
Will you do anything at all?

>>30477227
Why would they fake it tho?

>>30483257
So, you admit nothing changes? Good. Why trying to even argue or censor truth then?

>>30477227
Reminder that Trump implied the moon landing were fake when he said in his last address that Artemis2 will go further than any human ever went. As if the previous Apolo didn't do a fly-by of the moon.

>>30483864
It's probably going farther past the moon.

>>30483440
>I thought directional broadcast ("beaming") worked because the signal is distorted in all directions except one. Analogous to a phase array radar. You're still losing all that energy in all directions, but the direction that can make sense of the signal is only 1.
It's reflected with a dish when using radio. You could use a laser and just send it straight there.

Here's a conspiracy theory that is real: /gif/ is six million percent better when Israel is getting rocked. Frfr the whole first page is mostly free of faggot shit and zero niggers like what a coincidence!

>>30483864
They literally are going further away than the Apollo missions though. 406,840 km.
The furthest the Apollo mission went was 400,171 km.

>>30483748
>free money lmao
>best propaganda and distraction from desegregation
why fake anything?!
idk anon my IQ is 190 though (totally not fake)

>>30483714
dedicate a few hours a day to watching youtube videos that reinforce my retarded beliefs and post about it on the porn board in between ruining family get togethers with my schizophrenia.

Theyre going again i heard

>>30484501
this made me kek

>>30481324
This is exactly why I find it baffling that /pol/types deny the moon landing. Do they see Von Braun as a traitor to the Reich or something? Are they not aware that the most prominent voices that have denied the moon landing have something in common on their Wikipedia early life sections?

Beware of anyone who tells you the moon landing is fake. They are ALIENS - aliens don't want to share the universe - they want us to stay on earth. That's why they keep certain """people""" in power. They aren't powerful, they're ALSO ALIENS. They're afraid of us because we AREN'T AFRAID OF THEM!

>>30479684
When you gatekeep key positions of authority you can place those who are willing to repeat your lies so you win. Stalin of all people knew this being secretary of staff, throw in a cabal secret society that just so happen to be connected more closely than we ever thought and its not surprising that one side made the sacrifice of losing some propaganda for the sake of the lie not being found out on both sides.

>>30481324
>>30485121
>you must believe the jewish lies because it flatters your ego!
Smartest leftards.

>>30482328
Holy mother of TRVKES.

>>30485177
>>30482328
IKR, its just like how russia and the US both say the holohoax was rea-
oh wait, horrible argument

>>30482328
>When you gatekeep key positions of authority you can place those who are willing to repeat your lies so you win. Stalin of all people knew this being secretary of staff, throw in a cabal secret society that just so happen to be connected more closely than we ever thought and its not surprising that one side made the sacrifice of losing some propaganda for the sake of the lie not being found out on both sides.
Once you resort to insults its a dead giveaway you are not being genuine of how organized people can be to lie.

Oh cool, /x/ leaking out again

Hey schizos, how do you cope with Artemis?

>>30482729
no but I realize your redd!t spaces are gay.

File: Sesame St Library - Ficti(...).mp4 (2.15 MB, 1280x720)

2.15 MB MP4

My first red pill it was all a hoax.

>thousands of people kept the fake moon landing secret because they were told to by the US government
>but a smaller number didn't keep watergate a secret at the same time
makes sense

>>30485186
It's really not. While the narrative of the Holocaust, that six million Jews were died and systematically turned into lampshades is full of bullshit and impossibilities, there were indeed camps jews (and others) were detained in and died in for many reasons. That is just a matter of fact.

But when one calls into question the entirety of the moon landing, well, that is dumb as fuck. You don't need to outsource your reasoning like that anon but his point stands. The space race was fierce and if the moon landing was entirely faked the USSR would have found a way to prove that. Events were animated, but most of this "evidence" I've seen is people just arguing bullshit they don't understand.

Also just why? Why the moon landing of all fucking things?

>>30485186
Yes, it is a horrible argument because both the US and Russia fought Nazi Germany so would obviously have their reasons

>>30485196
Yes. They were obviously referring to the moon landing and not beloved genres that kids often read. Like science fiction.
The public TV puppet show was trying to redpill you all along.

>>30480318
>These other things therefore this is untrue
Tell me what you do for a living

>>30485121
>I have to find Jews as the common point!
I appreciate your dedication, it's doglike

>>30485196
>about ????????? people?
>>30485211
Doesn't matter.
>This secret couldn't be hold because this one couldn't
is logical fallacy. Doesn't prove anything. Answer the arguments or die.
>>30485214
Because you don't see why doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just prove it's false and people landed on Moon or die.
At least this anon >>30483359 >>30483365 >>30483390 discusses the subject instead of
>muh it wouldn't change anything to your virgin life
>muh why would the ruskov comply
>muh they couldn't keep the Watergate secret but this???
>muh what would it bring?
>muh white nationalists deny the biggest white technology?
stfu. Answer the subject or fuck back off to your troonigger thread.

>>30483614
>Why is the video footage always so crappy? This time it's like it was made on a Commodore 64 some 40 years ago
It being the actual first practical application of digital video CCDs you illiterate fuck

>>30483864
Most intelligent fecaloid
They are flying farther past the moon, which is further than where the moon landing was.

>>30478364
Fligu is less shitposty than this thread

>>30485248
>muh white nationalists deny the biggest white technology
This wasn't anything like what he or I stated. I would never attack you on the grounds of racism. Racism is actually good and noble in our era even.

I'm not here to tard wrangle either, I can't believe you faggots actually exist. Its like meeting a flat earther. In your response about the Holocaust I implied that I believe a portion of it, let's say 10-20% was true (because jews were indeed rounded up and many died largely because collapsing supply lines and etc). However I don't think any portion of the moon landing was faked. I know for a fact that animation and filmmaking was used to build the story around it, but largely because the technological limits of the era, and all members of the crew and etc have stated so publicly. Do you really believe it was 100% faked, and no one ever landed on the moon? Do you think the satellites and rovers we've put in/on other planets and moons were faked as well?

>>30481146
One of the main proponents of the “Fake Moon Landings” cult claimed the Van Allen Belts prevented anything but near Earth orbit.

>>30485214
>if the moon landing was entirely faked the USSR would have found a way to prove that
>THE USSR WAS KNOWN GLOBALLY AND HISTORICALLY FOR EXPOSING THE TRUTH
If you actually think this way, you should die.

>>30485350
Yeah that's not what was implied you month breathing retard. Also just genuinely, what incentive was there for the USSR to go along with it if it were a hoax?

>>30485356
>Yeah that's not what was implied
It is, and the fact that you're unaware of the implications of what you say only compounds how stupid you are.
>what incentive was there for the USSR to go along with it if it were a hoax
>WHY WOULD THE USSR GO ALONG WITH A LIE
>IT'S NOT LIKE THE USSR HAD A REPUTATION FOR LYING OR COVERING UP THINGS OR REWRITING HISTORY
Holy shit. You just need to fucking die.

>>30477227
Meds

HEY GUYS REMEMBER WHEN THE USSR BLEW OPEN THE FACT THAT THE HOLOCAUST WAS A HOAX AND THAT ISRAEL WAS BEHIND JFK'S ASSASSINATION AND THAT TONKIN GULF WAS A LIE AND THAT THE FBI WAS BEHIND MLK'S KILLING?

THANK GOD FOR THE USSR EXPOSING ALL THE DECEPTION AND LIES OF THE UNITED STATES!!!

>>30485363
Logical fallacy.

>>30485363
You are not very bright anon. And you're dodging like a faggot too.

The USSR would have incredible incentive in exposing the greatest case of scientific fraud in human history in the middle of the space race. Was the US also covering up the USSR's "hoaxes" like Vostok 1 or the Venera program? It was a brutal MOG when the reds did what no one in the west could at that point. Then the whole back-and-forth, the USSR would have had great incentives in exposing the moon landing as fake.

Were they just covering for each other the whole time?

>>30485404
>DUDE THE USSR HAD SO MUCH INCENTIVE TO BLOW OPEN THE LIES OF THE US
>JUST LIKE ALL THE LIES OF THE US IT BLEW OPEN
>JUST BECAUSE THEY NEVER DID IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DIDN'T HAVE INCREDIBLE INCENTIVE
>WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DID JUST WHAT THEY HAD INCENTIVE TO DO
>THERE WAS NEVER ANY COOPERATION BETWEEN COUNTRIES TO COVER UP ANYTHING
>THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO FALSENESS TO THE US-RUSSIA CONFLICT OR ANY GLOBAL CONFLICT EVER DONE FOR ANY REASON ESPECIALLY NOT TO JUSTIFY THE SPENDING OF MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF MONEY
>YOU'RE NOT VERY BRIGHT
>YOU'RE DODGING

>>30485422
Capslock crashouts are not effective arguments.

>>30485432
>OH MY GOD THE CASE OF YOUR LETTERS INVALIDATES YOUR POINTS SO I CAN IGNORE THEM
Of course.

>>30485236
>These other things therefore this is untrue
you mean the US government has proven for nearly a century to produce fake photos and videos on UNRELATED THINGS? huh. i guess we should trust them
btw
where do you live?

Governments are empowered by the armies of fanatical simps willing to spend their free time browbeating and insulting and otherwise using every tactic possible to degrade and denigrate those who call out their lies. It's no wonder you've got retards in this thread trying to claim the Soviet Union were purveyors of truth in order to rationalize why they didn't expose the lies of the United States.

>>30478405
Sysco supplies mom & pop restaurants and food service far more than chain restaurants whose price points they can't match.

>>30480457
>Nixon crony unrelated to space mission hands rock from his last trip to Arizona to decrepit Dutchman 90 days after astronauts return, long before any items would be released
Certainly it couldn't be the crony's lie

>>30481031
>Before data storage
No
>before computer simulation
Just like rocket technology, how does that sound credulous to you
>before unleaded gasoline
Relevant how

>>30481132
>the same science
Yes the process of understanding the processes of the natural world makes the moon landing and pollution the same thing
What was the last grade you completed nigger

>>30482255
>Because I was told to be skeptical about one thing I decided the earth was flat and only 6000 years old

>>30478259
>You cannot independently set up equipment that you know objectively and implicitly sends a laser beam to the Moon and receives it back.
Yes, yes you can

>>30485214
>the USSR would have found a way to prove that.
You're assuming they weren't just part of the exact same cabal. Don't forget that Lenin and the other Bolsheviks were financed by the Rothschilds who control the west since the end of the Napoleonic wars.

>>30485373
>HEY GUYS REMEMBER WHEN THE USSR BLEW OPEN THE FACT THAT THE HOLOCAUST WAS A HOAX AND THAT ISRAEL WAS BEHIND JFK'S ASSASSINATION AND THAT TONKIN GULF WAS A LIE AND THAT THE FBI WAS BEHIND MLK'S KILLING?
>
>THANK GOD FOR THE USSR EXPOSING ALL THE DECEPTION AND LIES OF THE UNITED STATES!!!
This anon gets it. There was so much the USSR could have called the USA out on but didn't, so why would them being silent on the faking of the moon landing surprise anyone? Both superpowers stuck to the script and only criticized the other within defined parameters.

>>30483226
>eenforced steel and concrete buildings
Tower 1 and 2 weren't. In the late 1960s their architect wanted to prove a point so he designed skyscrapers with no central support beams; the skeleton on the outside wasn't decorative, it WAS the entire support structure for the buildings and his plans only anticipated a collision with the commercial aircraft of the late 1960s, not the jumbo jets of 3 decades later. All it took was a sufficient impact to shatter the structure but BECAUSE of its unusual design and the fireball burning through floors without breaking supports to cascade into leaning, it pancaked instead of tipping.
And this skeleton design was no secret, either. Especially not to the scion of a wealthy contracting firm in the Mideast.

>>30483322
There's no reason to build a scale model, we didn't have technology to fabricate a scale model that detailed, and it wouldn't move with even that degree of gravity if we had.
The killer blow is actually trying to get dust effects that wouldn't immediately give away the scale, we can't magically produce powder that looks and acts the same as powder at 8x its physical scale, even on the moon's surface. You could argue this is a set but not a miniaturized one.

>>30485404
>The USSR would have incredible incentive in exposing the greatest case of scientific fraud in human history in the middle of the space race.
You mean like how the Democrats would have incredible incentive in pressing the matter of the Epstein Files and bringing the clients to justice? And yet they are silent.

>>30483384
>Russia would have gone too, even if they got there second
You seem confident of your knowledge of the Soviet Union, is this the part where you claim it's just common sense that they'd continue to endanger cosmonauts after a devastating failure? Especially after they'd launched the first satellite, put a dog into space, had female cosmonauts, etc.?

>>30478217
why are nasa fan boys always such fags?

>>30479889
who mentiend flat earth?

>>30479889
Alot of flat earth models, some proven to supposedly fake, the flat earth is basically a clock which makes for the sun and moon to go around. The globe earth model is small, like their penis. :p

>>30480925
yet you're still here lmao

>>30479524
Jews

>>30477688
My pants are looser after fucking your mom and you're a loser for posting this.

>>30485584
Anon, just because the USSR would lie about literally everything...you think that means they'd lie about SPACE? Pssssh.

>>30485730
First off, there is no USSR. Secondly, they lie about far less than the USA does. Almost everything you see on tv or in the news is bullshit.

>>30485786
>First off, there is no USSR.
Thanks for telling me that. I was totally unaware. I certainly wasn't talking about when the fucking moon landing happened, dumbshit.
>Secondly, they lie about far less
>lie about
Why are you using the present tense to describe an entity you just told me doesn't exist, you utter dolt?

>>30485786
If they don’t exist how can they lie nit whit?

>>30478259
>Now explain how you know what they're telling you is true.

I just did. The spike. If the Moon itself wouldn't reflect at all, there would be only that spike thanks to the reflectors.

>>I can run a program on my computer hooked up to some equipment and tell you it proves whatever the hell I want.

About that computer bullshit... At least genuine Moon deniers base their bullshit on "facts" which are seemingly solid, like the reflections from their lines, or that the moon itself can reflect (otherwise you wouldn't see it at night sky!) But you just based that bullshit on your opinion. If you want to troll about this, at least try to do it properly.

>>30478432
All those countries were and some of them still are, the enemies of the USA, but of course that doesn't mean anything, right?

Do they teach you history at all these days? Don't you know how many lies USA revealed from those countries back in the day? Or what about Iran Contra scandal, or Bay of Pigs etc etc?

Do you know what for example is Radio Free Europe? It was sending USA propaganda constantly over the Iron Curtain. USA helped to tell the story about Russian Gulags etc etc.

Why the fuck would Russia decide to support the space race opponent and never, not even now, deny that USA put the man on the Moon?

We need explanations and proof, not just opinions.

>>30486089
>All those countries were and some of them still are, the enemies of the USA
So you're an abject imbecile that believes the kayfabe and understands nothing about geopolitics.

>>30485259
Learn English, you fucking lard-ass American piece of fuck.

>>30485259
>This time it's like it was made on a Commodore 64 some 40 years ago

He was probably talking about the Artemis II footage?

>>30483272
>'bUt HOw DoEs thIS EFfect You PERsOnAllY?
re-writing it like a retard doesnt make it retarded.
>isn't an argument.
hes not arguing anything, hes asking you what the point is.
if nothing changes if your dream comes true, why chase it?

>>30486172
No. Can't you read.

>>We need explanations and proof, not just opinions.

Give us proof, not just your opinions.

>>30477247
>It's as if there's a spotlight!
Yup. That's called a reflection. NASA's space suits reflected 85% of their light, and that picture was taken while another astronaut was directly in front of him (you can literally see in the space suit's visor).

>>30483257
fuck off with your tranny logic.

>>30483257
Indeed what changes in your life, so why do your panties get twisted up when someone questions the narrative? Oy vey the question only goes one way!