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when are our Queens coming back?

>laliberte part 2
>cuck humiliation
>ntr'd whores turn into sadists, femdom shit
man this nigga just keeps ruining it

>>7970034
Out of all the cucks in Laliberte's stories that deserves to get cucked.
This cuck deserved it 110%.
Nigger really thought that selling out his family for a promotion would go well for him.

>>7970261
I bet you dollars to donuts that the vast majority of NTR readers are masocucks.

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>pov: you're the oblivious omega male in a NTR harem scenario
well? who do you get cucked by first?

>>7970158
>>7970034
...and it isnt even over yet, there's even more pain to come.

>>7970316
While masochism in netorare is arguably the most important factor. I have a hard time believing what your saying is true. The majority of ntr viewers are self-inserting, power-fantasy retards. They enjoy sadism more then masochism.
That is why they get so upset when the mob ass MC loses because it shatters their illusion.
You ever notice in netori works you barely see comments like "kill all cucks"?
I was reading about something the other day that I found quite interesting. It's known as "protagonist centered morality"
As the name suggests: Fuckers just don't GAF what bad actions the protagonist does and will always find a way to side with them.
Hell, Look at the top 10 most favorite netorare works on nhentai. 3 out of 10 of them are just straight up reverse netorare. 4 more are netori. It doesn't get more power fantasy then that.
In fact, I'm not doing this shit justice. Just go look at the most favorited ntr on nhentai: "Torokase Orgasm" https://nhentai.net/g/289857/
>First story: self insert mc fucks his married auntie and makes her his fuck buddy.
No one cares though, cause he is MC.
>Second story: power fantasy nonsense, wimp-looking MC gets a harem of thick elf bitches.
>Third story: Mob lookin schoolboy protaganist fucks the school nurse who is about to get married. Then a week later, she is now married and still fucking him.
>Fourth story: MC's mom sees him with a girl, gets jealous and then fucks him. She even calls the girl and rubs it in that's he is fucking her son.
Fifth story: not even ntr AFAIK, just an ugly-bastard monarch who is fucking hoes.

Anyways, I reached the character limit, so I will finish it up in the reply.

>>7970316
>>7970788
I used that doujin to highlight how a normie views netorare. So long as the MC wins, He is fine with it.
Funny thing is, none of the protagonists in these stories even had an arguably justified reason for committing netorare, even their Korean counterparts atleast have some sort of justification. Not even something as cliche as they were bullied. They literally just did it cause they liked the girl/wanted to fuck. If we changed perspectives, that is literally just all the netorare Normies and vanillatards complain about so damn much.
Last but not least, 7 out of the 10 most viewed netorare anime on hanime are netori. The other 3 are by Takeda where you see the cuck like 2 times.
Setting aside the most popular works. The majority of netorare fans are not there to see the cuck get humiliated to get scratch their masochist itch. They are there to see their self-insert MC dominate a taken woman.
Netorare is sadly a genre for self inserters and to pander to power fantasies.
Sorry to break it to you.
I rest my case.

Any good works from the cuck's pov you guys can recommend?
None of that blackmail/mindcontrol shit, just slutty girls. The more heart-wrenching, the better.
Can be mom ntr, sister ntr, girlfriend, childhood friend, etc. don't really care, as long as it "feels" like ntr

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>>7970795
https://exhentai.org/g/1812173/82aa4c3d6a/
https://exhentai.org/g/1997617/6552d71f55/
https://exhentai.org/g/2118098/1b01a2702c/

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Bros how does it go from this?

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>>7970821
...to this?

>>7970791
holy based someone who actually gets it. i feel this is exactly how the majority who watch this genre feel- the power fantasy appeal. it leaves masochists like me dead in the water with the majority of the porn.

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>>7970821
>>7970822
No way that old fart has a strong enough cock.

>>7970821
>>7970822
sauce?

>>7971021
just another Jin Tachibana-san chinese knockoff

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This is kino in the making, but the author said he doesn't know where he goes with it, so it could end as NTS or NTR.
Shame there's only one chapter and it's about MC and his swapping partner (blonde girl) atm, still hot as fuck tho.

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>>7970821
Where do we go from here? The moans are coming out all weird. Where are you now when I need you...

>>7971036
It's gonna end in NTR of course. Tho I wouldn't mind seeing the other girl NTR the nigger as well

>>7970034
>ntr'd whores turn into sadists, femdom shit
>Ruin
What? NTR is the hottest when the women betray their original lover.
That said, there was barely any femdom except for 1 scene where his daughter stepped on him, they just tied him up and let him watch.

>>7971036
it depends on who's dick is bigger.

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Remember Higenamuchi? It's too bad he has slowed down a lot nowadays but he's still releasing works (unfortunately physical only so a bitch to find). My favorite is still the Katsura Family one where the chad does oyakodon NTR.

>>7971021
xration/miltea's sanjou onigashima series, easily one of the kinoest NTR stories out there.

>>7970158
I'd prefer a cuck getting cucked without any justification like this. It helps filtering out the normies and vanillafags from the manga. Besides, justifying a netorare kinda defeat the idea of netorare itself (cucking the idea or ntr? Lel), and it turned the manga into a revengeslop instead of just simply malevolent act of taking someones beloved.
Think of it like those bai asuka or sanbun doujin, like a salaryman with wife and kids and have no enemies got cucked out of nowhere, now that's what I called as pure ntr

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>>7970965
Yeah, that is why when I see people saying netorare is for cucks, I cringe.
The most popular netorare works year after year are always netori and reverse netorare. Both of which, the self-inserting protagonist reaps all the benefits without any of the negative consequences.
That is why I have been saying for ages that netori and reverse netorare needs it's own tag. To seperate the sadists, and the self-inserting power fantasy retards from the masochists.
Look at " Ane wa Yanmama Junyuu-chuu" as an example. It is loved by normies. Fucking drake posted it on his Instagram once.
The majority of people who enjoyed "Ane wa Yanmama Junyuu-chuu"
Don't even GAF that she is married and has a literal child. They just love the fantasy of the mob protagonist fucking the hot, sister character.
But flip the roles. If the husband looked like a mob-character and was the protagonist instead, all while the bull was tan and buff, I swear to you the narrative would be "kill all cucks" and "I hate ntr"
Look at one of Takeda Hiromitsu's most popular animes. They will say shit like: "well you barely see the cuck, it is what it is."
Hell, read most netorare where the cuck has 2 scenes. There will be loads of copium in the comments saying shit like: "not really netorare!"
"Another one they love to use is:
My favorite one is" just cheating desu." Even though the girl is essentially his cumdump by the end.
Another one is when the bull fucks the girl who isn't in an official relationship with the cuck but it is obvious they like eachother. The narrative is always:
>They weren't really dating! Not ntr!!
When it's fucking obvious its netorare.
But yeah I'm kinda repeating the same points.
So long as the story appeals to the self-inserter, then "Protagonist centered morality" will do the rest. Excusing all his actions and preventing the viewer from doing introspection. Sometimes the viewer doesn't even have to self insert, they will still side with the protagonist no matter what.

>>7970788
Misread the third story, the ring at the end was one he gave her. She lied about marriage. The other stories still stand though!

>>7971248
I fall into the sadism/self-insert side, though I don't really self-insert.
I have a perfectly good time jacking off with the old men, shota, and ugly bastard bulls alongside the normal gyaru-oh types.

For me, it's the aspects of female degeneration and maledom if anything.
A lesbian getting NTR'd by a dude is actually peak.

This is why I hate the humiliation and dislike the netorase side.
Those are far more pointed towards the masochists.

NEW DARX DROPPED LAST WEEKEND
>goes into depth on the side character Amelia
>she and Kase’s fiance Tricia have lots of sex because Tricia is actually a lesbian but also very pragmatic and willing to sleep and marry Kase because S-class
>right as the timer hits zero on the secret Kase skill during last arc Amelia has a mind break moment
>flips out and Tricia tries continuing and comforting her but Amelia grabs a knife and kills kills her
>then runs off and passes out waking up in unknown cabin
>saved by a farming simple couple who assume she is a rape victim
>she sssumed fake name and recovers there as Kase has people looking for her
>finds out she’s pregnant and over the 9 month timeskip outside the cave she gives birth to baby boy named Daver (after Darx and Oliver) and loves him very much
>wonders if Darx ever thinks about her
>goes back to city right when Darx and Syvis leave cave and patrols it finding info
>catches up to Darx and Kase during Reckoning and fails to kill Kase
>afterwards hears about Darx fleeing and sees Ilene and Kase and Syvis leave in carriage together and decides to go follow them narrating that she feels like her choice would decide the fate of the women and Kase
>POV switch to a random Count’s estate where everyone gets slaughtered ruthlessly and quickly by demon girl and new edgy Darx who asks Count where is “she”
LMAO DARX IS GONNA RAISE ANOTHER MAN’S SON LIKE A TRUE KEK, but this pretty much closed the door on future romance between Amelia & Darx.

>>7970795
a killer 3 parter

https://exhentai.org/g/2071540/1a6208ac11/
https://exhentai.org/g/2071566/53b210f788/
https://exhentai.org/g/2111851/e7ee664b26/

>>7971243
>It helps filtering out the normies and vanillafags from the manga
Yeah this is probably one of laliberte's weakest work.
I checked some comments on nhentai and the general consensus is:
>the cuck deserved it
The worst type of netorare give justification to the netorare.
How little or big it may be, it is the biggest red flag I see in a lot of netorare.

>>7972421
And this is why I just can't get into kurosu gatari's wild chronicles despite the hot art.

>>7971243
>>7972421
>It helps filtering out the normies and vanillafags from the manga
wouldn't that be the opposite?
having the cuck MC be an evil asshole should make most normies be disgusted and therefore filter them right from the beginning.

>The worst type of netorare give justification to the netorare.
you prefer NTR'er to be a force of nature like a natural disaster or cancer, or shit just happens?

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>>7972547
I enjoyed that series but yeah. NTR just stings a little better when the cuck didn't really deserve it.

I'm looking for specifically a type of doujin where the girl or maybe the bf is oblivious and innocent, like the girl accepts to get fucked or suck cock etc or boyfriend lets someone fuck his gf for training and they don't realize it is just sex, idk if i'm clear (feel free to reply to tell me no) but otherwise would love to see what Y'all might have :)

what is the perfect NTR where you can self-insert as the woman's point of view where you empathize what she feels and sees to the point that it feels EXTREMELY gay without it actually being gay?

>>7971856
Anyone can rec other novels with a similar vibe to early darx or when darx catches syvis cheating? Kinda like mistery ntr.
That kinda stuff felt peak to me and I doubt we will ever get anything similar now.
I know Likes NTR skill appeared, but that is more of a netorase

>>7972557
NTA, but the vast majority of whining I've seen about NTR were from ones where theres no justification for the NTR. It's especially bad on any non-H title with a powerfantasy MC whose heroines have any friendly interaction with a man, or a side character fucks someone who isn't MC.

What pushes vanilla readers away is that most of them can't help but self-insert themselves as the MC, regardless of the genre. In their minds, THEY'RE the ones getting cucked and they HATE it. Thats why in "NTR bad" threads there's always that one guy with a schizo essay prepared on why this genre is the bane of humanity and everyone who enjoys it needs to be executed.

>>7972609
Stories with nebic had some good stuff before it got nuked, like that one story about the son being paralyzed and the mom fucking his bully behind him, although nebic had this weird tendency of adding homo shit to his stories and ruining them, like in the Bully From Hell story where halfway through its more about the bully fucking the male mc than his girls.

Whatsawhizzer also had some decent works, but his stories felt way too full of drama to me

Literotica has some random stuff

>>7972557
>you prefer NTR'er to be a force of nature like a natural disaster or cancer, or shit just happens?
I want ntr to be ntr. Have you ever read sanbun or bai asuka works? Your everyday normal hitozuma without any AV background suddenly got raped, blackmailed, mindbroken, and to some extent, impregnated, by the bvll seed. That is Pure NTR, it caused normalfags to be seething endlessly. The reason why ntrchuds called normalfags and vanillacucks is simply because they self insert as a cuck in those pure ntr story, whether its the husband, the son, or maybe the boyfriend (if its about teenage ntr) while some of us just want to see the mess that was happening throughout that story.
Non pure ntr example is that shoplifring manga by minazuki mikka, despite having a hot female lead and based armpit licking drawing, that doujin is not a pure ntr, why? Because it was told that the husband is in the wrong, because he slacking off, being lazy, and the wife is le victim of her husband behavior. This caused normalfags into putting more weigh to that bobby hill bvll and seeing the NTR aspect as 'moral lesson' for the cuck husband to be a better person. It was a good doujin but not a good ntr.

>>7972658
so good NTR is when shit just happens for no reason at all...
or to be more specific pure NTR is when bad shit happens to GOOD people, and bad shit happening to BAD people is actually tainted NTR.

and that there are no moral lessons to be learned from NTR?

>>7972695
Vanillacuck spotted.
Nobody says anyrhing about shit just happens for no reason at all. Read sanbun village doujin or tuberose cage or bai asuka hametorare, as corny and illogical the reason for those ntr story, that shit is pure ntr and the essence of ntr lies on its grooming process.
Vanillacucks like you couldn't help but have a constant urge to justify the netorare itself because probably its against muh moral or something like that.
>its le fine because the husband is le bad
>its le fine because the husband is too lazy to please his wife
>its le fine because the wife have some AV background therefore shes le bad from beginning
Meanwhile stuff like blackmail, grooming, rape is actually happened irl, in many cases. Vanillacucks like you are just too sheltered to know about any of that

>>7972695
you know certain porn genres that are fucked up like hardcore rape, ryona, guro, snuff, mind control, petrification, and shit like that?
if you put NTR on that list, it makes a lot more sense why people read these genres and why they read NTR.

They find pleasure at the expense from the unjustified suffering of others.

>>7972695
Not him but I genuinely don't really think anyone should view NTR stories as cautionary tales where there is some kind of lesson. The story is almost always just a construct to make some guy miserable or to make him lose no matter what. The reasons honestly don't matter either since if we wanna be pedantic, the outcome was already decided when the artist picked up the pen. I find it kind of funny when normalfriends go on those desperate rants where they victim blame the mc like some weird defense mechanism.

>>7972576
Bump

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>>7972695
>moral lessons to be learned from NTR
Might makes right.

>>7972723
All that really comes to mind are a few teacher/hypnosis ones where they convince couples that the girl needs "guidance" or "counselling"

>>7972715

So NTR could have a moral lesson or it could have evil/good cuck MCs or whatever,
but the defining factor of NTR is corruption? Corrupting a good-ish woman into an evil woman or whatever?

>Meanwhile stuff like blackmail, grooming, rape is actually happened irl, in many cases
if have no doubt that actually happens in real life. Although I would be extremely skeptical of actual NTR happening in real life.

>>7972695
jesus christ, NTR is a PORN genre. It ain't fucking remotely real.

Just like >>7972716 posted about bizarre genres like snuff, ryona, mind control, and etc, there is no morality for those genres because it ain't real.
it's just a different flavor for you to jerk off to, nothing more.

I personally think the reason why so many vanillacucks get confused by NTR but fully understand snuff, ryona, mind control, etc, is because so many of them conflate NTR with CHEATING.

>>7972732
that is kinda what i meant yeah, not only that but yeah, got some name reccs?

>>7972735
>ntr could have moral lesson
Yes, but it wont be a pure ntr, it would become a vanilafags contamined ntr where vanilla söyboy could justify the ntr aspect to boost their thinking "well I wouldnt be like that guy in ntr manga". I mean come on, this shit is a fucking doujin.
>defining factor of ntr is corruption
Yes, the grooming process is what makes ntr an ntr.
>Although I would be extremely skeptical of actual NTR happening in real life.
Literally, and I'm seriously saying this, socialize with people more, get to know people with various background in their life

>>7972735
>>7972744
this is why non-incestuous mom NTR (of the single/widow variety) is the best purest form of NTR possible.

it strips out the cheating and sexual lust from the "cuck" son and the mom
and just focuses on turning a wholesome loving mother into an evil massive piece of shit woman who will abandon her son.

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We getting a rare warabimochi where the woman defeats the NTR cock again

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M Night Shamwow

I think vanillafag who complains about NTR is unironic cuck in denial. Like what's even the point of them reading NTR doujinshi in the first place? You can always find any NTR manga in site like nhentai and somehow there's always vanillafags complaining about the NTR in there.
I bet they're just several steps away from being NTS enjoyer.

>>7972642
Why do people keep confusing self-inserting with empathy? Biggest meme buzzword here Normies don't like seeing bad things happening to good people because they empathise with the good person. It's that simple. They aren't pretending to be the cuck.

>>7972756
Nigger, you're typing paragrapghs about armchair psychoanalysis of NTR on the cuck thread of 4chan. You and everyone here are in 0 position to lecture anyone about socialising.

>>7972719
This happens both ways funnily enough.A lot of NTR fans really get invested in it and use it as red/blackpoill ammo on how women hate weak men and will leave nice guys for chad/divorecce rape cuck you to death etc.

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Thoughts on this title?

>>7970493
The tomboy. Tomboys and NTR are practically made for each other.

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>>7973447
Tomboys are alright, but the only true NTR is when it's about a 25+ loyal wife with a thick long side braid.

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>>7973463
>Thick long braid
And Thick bush underneath

>>7973407
I played it. It's the one where the two girls and two guys get stuck on some sort of desert island isn't it? It wasn't particularly good or memorable.

>>7973407
>Thoughts on this title?
I find the title "Immoral quartet" confusing, who are the members of quartet? Those two girls and their bulls? Or are they swingers, and the quartet refers to them and their bfs? Or maybe there are two other girls we dont know about?

>>7973525
The two girls, the bull and (You), the limpdick protag with zakochin.

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>>7973332
This, usually both the cover and the tittle have some big N T R letters so you cant miss it, why engage in something you already decided dont like?

>>7973373
>>7973503
>empathy
>self-inserting
These are key concepts you have to understand in order to enjoy any kind of story, but it's the author's job to craft characters readers can care for, instead of making them blank slates for readers to just project themselves into (like in 99% of vanilla). I love it when NTR stories focus on the woman's POV, I enjoy reading about how they gradually surrender to their bull's sexual prowess and their lives change because of him.

tl:dr empathy != self-insertion

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would you approve your wife's request to fuck the horse hung neighbor -under your supervision-so she can get over his massive cock and go back to being your perfect wife?

>>7973487
Sauce? Also more doujins with hairy women(NTR)?

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>>7973657

>>7973579
>I love it when NTR stories focus on the woman's POV, I enjoy reading about how they gradually surrender to their bull's sexual prowess and their lives change because of him.
Yeah and this is where sanbun kyoden is unironically good at.
People might complained about him making the same thing again and again that even he himself said so at one point about it kek. But truth be told, he's probably the only guy who understood the actual essence of netorare itself right now. His work is not like those cheap style-over-substance type of ntr but it defines the genre itself, as seen in gekkakou no ori or sayuki no sato (I still remember how this manga makes normalfaggot seething endlessly because of le shock, way before the jav adaptation comes out), his latest major work, magnolia of water seems like a self mockery, but it still put some emphasis towards the netorare process itself.
Its too bad that modern netorare author couldn't get into the same level as him in terms of crafting their netorare story.

>>7973718
It's still a crime against humanity that he stopped doing fantasy. His Lamuros series are godlike.

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Are there any Mainstreammangas that give you that weird NTR feeling?

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>>7973817
Takagi is made for NTS. She's truly a gentle, loving hotwife.

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>>7973817
Sakurako

>>7970493
roll

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Thoughts on pretty/attractive men bulls?

>>7974020
made for women

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>>7974024
They sometimes need something for themselves.

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>The main character of Virgin Bocchi is eating a blissful toilet meal in the bathroom, but he is interrupted by the moaning sounds of a couple coming from the next room.
>When her voice quieted down, I went to look next door and saw a slutty gal passed out with semen gushing out of her asshole.
>In order to get rid of her grudge and pent-up sexual desire, the virgin begins to devour her plump body...

>>7971856
So if Amelia's ending narration isn't bullshit, she either breaks Ilene free of Kase's control or she gets killed or she falls to Kase again. Or maybe all 3 with the bullshit asspulls that have been going on.

>>7974020
I find them boring now.
UB bulls are the gold standard.

>>7974278
favorite UB and what do you think about rimjobs?

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>>7974290
>Favourite UB
Otou-san
>rimjobs
Don't care

>>7974278
Instead of UB, what about... ugly grotesque dicks?

>>7973739
Just looked his xitter profile, I think he's working on gekkakou no ori part 3 right now, maybe it will be released on comic hotmilk koime next month

>>7973817
I feel like it would be extremely difficult to do ntr in non-porn stuff because ntr is a porn genre where everything revolves around sex and things related to sex.
In non-porn stuff, things don't revolve around sex and people have motivations beyond sex.

Trying to make a non-porn ntr would just look ridiculous (like that ntr trap lesbo manga), and the closest thing you could make that would be remotely interesting would be soap opera stuff, and even soap operas are nowhere close to ntr.

>>7973718
>his latest major work, magnolia of water seems like a self mockery

explain this, because that just seems like one of his regular ntr stories.

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>This is a CG collection in which a girl who is a childhood friend is turned into a slave/girlfriend and does naughty things in leotards and bondage costumes that emit a lewd luster.

>>7974766
Wild assumption, knowing that sanbun loves to explore various theme on his ntr work. I mean he literally dive into ntr concept-philosophical-stuff in gekkakou no ori with those dialogue at the cafe about embracing or something like that. Wouldn't be surprised if he did the same thing in magnolia water. After all that last arc monologue is too good to be ignored right?
also, funny stuff about sanbun work is that you can take it as a normal ntr doujinshi where you just simply jack off to it and a simple adult manga at the same time. People who criticize him being repetitive unironically wank off to another repetitive ntr doujin that dont even bother to 'ask' the reader to invest their time in it. With sanbun you got ntr story with realism, and that realism accelerrates whatever feeling that you have for ntr manga because you eventually invent your time to learn about the character and their behavior. I literally cum buckets at gekkakou no ori after I jokingly read that for the plot lol

>>7974599
bss would be extremely easy in a non-porn manga

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>>7974913
>With sanbun you got ntr story with realism

sanbun's work are FAR from realistic, most of the time it gets downright goofy. Then again, most NTR works are like that, especially mom NTR.
Most of the time when reading his stuff, I'm just left wondering "Why doesn't X just do this? Why is Y so insane? Why does Z put up with so much bullshit?"
And then there's the fact that the women in the stories are such kind women who somehow turn into evil twisted creatures. Like I don't care how good that dick is, nobody turns into a demon without serious drug addiction or brainwashing.
The only way I can reconcile this is to simply convince myself that the Sanbun-verse is an alternate reality where logic and humans are simply different and alien from OUR reality.

That's not to say that NTR stories can't be somewhat realistic or at least grounded.
I definitely enjoyed Kurata Akiko no Kokuhaku.

>>7974938
any remotely good bss manga?

>>7974952
Realism worked as a base of his story for any reader to invent their emphaty or sadistic desire, then he will showing you bunch of ntr logic with sex scenes, making you think that 'well its a doujinshi at all' for like 100 pages, a lot of things happened during this arc: rape, personal guilt, wife trying to hide everything, bvll keep grooming his victim, etc, by the time you stopped giving shit about the story he will swing the pendulum back to realism with whatever 'drama' that happens during the sex arc break, before finally mixed the two together at the final arc.
That's why i said his doujinshi is ntr with realism. Its still ntr where you could questioning things like why did the village have low female fertility? Why did the village choose this one specific woman to breed? Why dont the female character in his manga call the cops? But at the same time you have a normal hitozuma character that goes on her day like your normal irl housewife before she got into series of roipe and feeling bad because of those rape
Its basically stockholm syndrome-like

>>7974913
I will say that he does bring something different to the table by focusing so much on the family aspect of things. His central themes almost always revolve around the mother abandoning her motherhood to embrace womanhood. You will often see this from the sons perspective. The way he explores this type of progression is almost identical in both Magnolia, Akebi and Gekkakou. A lot of scenarios also play out the same, like putting the woman in some display box where the other party just watches.

Like >>7974952 mentions I also feel like a lot of sanbun's stuff relies on other people simply not doing anything at all. Essentially you get this kinda predictable formula where some force of nature wrecks through a household with some incredibly baffling responses from the victim party, the mom/wife included. I like some of his stuff don't get me wrong. It's just a bit surprising to see this level of praise.

>>7974952
>I definitely enjoyed Kurata Akiko no Kokuhaku.
this series feels like it was written by a woman.

>>7972747
???

>>7972747
Saimin Counselor series

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>Senzoku is subjected to a hypnosis by an old man in the city and taken to his room.
>As she is told, she will be forced to have sex with him and cum inside her as per her desire.

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>Previous work Senzoku, who has been hypnotized by an old man, is told to call a friend, so she calls Takina.
>Takina believes Chizoku's story of urgent business, so she heads to the old man's room, and when she enters the room, Chizoku strangles her, causing her to lose consciousness... and Takina also goes to the uncle's room. When I woke up...

What are some of the best ntr games right now? preferably male protag & translated
Looking for some new stuff

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>>7975160
the wife becoming BEAT BY COCK(tm) and turning into a femdom sadist was striking, but it felt like it lost some long-term impact. If she had been unfortunately BEAT BY COCK(tm) and shamefully gave in, that would be one thing. But, having her go full sadist, made it much easier to say "she is a bad person" and that the cuck didn't deserve it (which he very much did) WHICH AGAIN makes it lose long-term impact.

GOOD NTR is all about the hopeless nature. How one could do everything right, with the right person, with the right hopes and dreams, and still lose EVERYTHING to fate, to an uncaring cruel life. THAT is NTR that sticks with you and leaves the best post-nut shame.

Laliberte's work in Obedience is well drawn, well colored, and has MANY good sex scenes. However, while it is, as aformentioned, an initially striking work, it lacks staying power that an intellectual NTR enjoyer (faggot) will appreciate.
/blogpost

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>>7975186
If you don't mind GPT4, RJ01093209 just got translated today.

>>7975270
Holy Shit the series has become so gigantic. Imagine if your new to the series. There last one was kinda average, The NTR become a bit weak due to the same childhood friend romance but without confessing each other and less male pov.

>>7974020
Sauce?

>>7975225
I agree that the NTR isn't as strong but she wasn't exactly a sadist, Michael is the one orchestrating the sadism, she's just loyal to him. Wife just started treating Michael as her real husband.
The cuck didn't exactly get cnb tortured, just tied up.

>>7973971
Manga readers have become overly sensitive to NTR and I'm sick of their whining whenever any female character fucks literally anyone who isn't the MC. It happens way more with harem/power-fantasy titles so I always figured the whiners were self-inserters.

The sensitivity has spilled over into even normal one-on-one romance titles where one dude shows up, makes an advance on FMC and some mouth breather will holler out "NTR! NTR!?". Theres been a few where morons went over to ask the author on twitter if there'll be any NTR, which always confuses the fuck out of them as to why people are expecting NTR to ever happen. NTR has completely and utterly mind-broken some people.

If you self-insert as the fuck and you own it though, then hey, more power to you.

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>A couple is trying hard to conceive in order to have their long-awaited child. However, things didn't go as planned... Several years passed without them being able to have children.
>Gradually, the atmosphere at home becomes heavy... Evening life becomes just a chore...
>Meanwhile, her husband discovers an article on the internet.
-Two couples struggling to conceive succeeded in having a baby through swapping-
>``Perhaps...this is what we need right now...''

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>tfw this is never going to be translated

Bromodachi... I'm doing that dumb thing where I get excited for ANIM's latest game despite having been burned so many times before.

>>7975038
>It's just a bit surprising to see this level of praise.
Because he's the fucking GOAT. Five years from now when Terasu is forgotten after having disappeared to go suck off some black dude, Sanbun will still be quietly putting out great stuff just like he was before some anons here were even born.

>>7975595
???
Terasu is probably solidified as one of the GOATs in the NTRsphere right now no way he'll ever be forgotten

>>7973825
Sauce?

>>7975604
https://mangadex.org/chapter/e033f66d-de9c-45a4-ac42-440121252613

It's a chapter parodying NTR setup.

>>7975604
Himegasaki Sakurako wa Kyou mo Fubin Kawaii
>>7975578
Forget it, they're not capable of discussion

>>7974278
>>7974290
>>7974337
>UB
...and speaking of self-inserting faggots, here comes its ultimate expression
>b-b-but I just like it for the angst and humilliation the mc suffer from having his woman stolen by a walrus
Bullshit, (you) just want a story where even (you) can get laid.

>>7975590
that's fine. A few more disappointments and that last ray of hope inside of you will finally die and you'll become as emotionally numb as the rest of us,

>>7975618
explain?

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>>7973718
>>7974766
>>7975038
Im gonna give his work a shot but first impression aint good, his artworkblooks very... classical, plain-looking really.

>>7975635
>his artworkblooks very... classical,
he's been doing this shit since the 90's. It looks classical because he inspired every eromanga author that came after him.

>>7973817
Kanojo Okarishimasu. I think the MC later on also dreams about that one heroine getting fucked by another guy. Guy is a total cuck but as in super annoying so I dropped the anime. All the girls are cute though.

>>7975635
For me that's the point. Modern anime art is always various forms of deformed.

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>Sayaka, a housewife with huge breasts, a huge butt, and a tall stature who has a strong sexual desire but has not had sex with her husband for over a year, is scouted by a doujin AV circle...!?

Has there ever been a NTR/momcest doujin where the son is getting cucked by virtue of the mom not being interested in incest and just keeps fucking the dad?

>>7970493
Only one way to find out

>>7970799
Best ntr ever IMO
>>7972695
You didn't read my post and it shows.
Its unironically netori and reverse ntr which are the most popular ntr works week after week, year after year that teach 0 lessons 99% of the time.
These 2 subgenres of ntr are consumed and enjoyed by normies like there is no tomorrow.
It is a shallow power fantasy which is the average self-inserting retard's wet dream.
Protagonist centered morality is rampant in these works because the protagonist does bad but vanillacucks justify his actions anyways because he is the MC.
But to get to your point.
It is unironically expected that GOOD things happen to bad people. If a bad thing happens to them, then what is even the point?
Netorare is a genre literally built off misery.
The genre is created for the cuck to take as many L's as possible.
This isn't a discussion about morality or growth. The genre is made for the cuck to lose and to keep losing again and again and again.
Getting overly emotional and upset over the cuck getting screwed over and the bad guy winning is just asinine.
When you watch a Quentin tarantino movie, expect blood and gore. When you watch a comedy expect to laugh.
Ntr at it's core level is about loss and despair. The cuck WILL lose.
That is why I just don't get it when vanillacucks get bent out of shape over the genre.
It would be like me watching a BET movie and then getting upset that the movie condemned cops and painted black people in a good light.
Holy shit, at this point we need a sticky breaking down what netorare is and what the genre means. This shit is getting ridiculous.

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>Kurie is a beautiful woman who was raped in a deserted park on her way home from club activities during her student days.
>Since then, she lost her smile, married her current husband, and lived a peaceful life, hiding her past.
>However, one day, Kurie reunites with the rapist who stole her virginity. He threatens to reveal her past affair to her husband, and she reluctantly offers him her body.

There really are a lot of NTR enjoyers out there though. Talk to any waifu on Character.ai and you'd be surprised how quickly and easily they'll intuit your desire to move the conversation in that direction.

>>7976183
I hate when the bulls do this shit.
I comes off as needy to me.
The girl is a fucking cumdump, it should be the GIRL telling the bull that she belongs to him, mind and body. The bull should just shut up and fuck the hoe. In works like this when he starts exclaiming that she belongs to him in such an outright way, it always makes me fucking cringe.
Bulls should have options, an abundance of pussy waiting at their doorstep at any given moment. Works where he devotes all his time to stealing one girl is so disheartening for the genre.
This is probably why I can't stand ntr where the bull marries and has a family with the girl.
From an emotional aspect, it is heart-wrenching, but when you look at what a dominant bull should be it's just cringe.
It just feels like a crappy netori to me. Like a shitty episode of black mirror.

>>7976183
Agreed. It's super cringe.

>>7976183
>>7976293
I hate it when bulls are assholes and borderline sociopaths. I understand it's a consolation price for the fags feeling bad about the MC
>Now that cheating bitch will be treated like shit for the rest of her life, serves her well
But still come across really, really unsettling. I guess thats the point.

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Its such a wonderful feeling knowing that someone is taking time out of their day to troll in a thread. It just shows how bothered they truly are.

The best part is knowing that netorare is here to stay.

It will be the most searched genre today, tomorrow, the months after that, and then the month after that.

And we ntr fans will be posting in our discussion thread about ntr works today, tomorrow, the day after that, and the one after that.

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>The main character, Takuya, lives a dull life.
>He got a job during the employment ice age, but was forced into power harassment and had a difficult time every day.
>What was especially bad was bullying from girls.Takuya was bullied every day by girls who told him things like "You're disgusting" and "Don't talk!", leaving him with a painful scar.
>His worst attack was slander on social media. Takuya was bombarded with words that ridiculed men who were insensitive to girls and men who were cheesy .
>Women are full of trash. I can't trust women! The only person I can trust is the cat...
>As Takuya spends his days in a lethargic state, a mysterious blonde beauty who calls herself the "naked housekeeper" suddenly appears! When she enters the room, she starts doing housework completely naked! Temptation while showing off her big butt!
>Takuya, attacks the beautiful woman in front of him! However, the housekeeper accepts this without expression. Kneeling naked with a cool response! I was in an unexpectedly compliant state!

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>My name is Kenji Sahara, and I'm a second-year university student living alone in Tokyo.
>I have a super cute girlfriend named Nami Otoha.
>However, Nami will be traveling with her friend this time, so we won't be able to see each other for a while.
>In order to relieve my loneliness, I'm casually looking for porn movies...

>>7976691
>you will need a guide
>a guide

Jesus christ

How do you NOT self-insert into porn?
Kind of feel that it defeats the purpose of porn if you don't self-insert.

>>7972650
Yeah and also i didnt liked that he put a lot of scat in his stories it was to excessive
>also
I heard that he is trying to make another site
>>7976293
dunno maybe its just me but i like it seeing the girl being happy with the bull and maybe getting pregnant while mc cuck is miserable i see it as her getting away with the cheating

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>This is a story about a married woman who suffers from a misunderstanding with her husband, and ends up getting pregnant after falling in love with her neighbor's dick! !

>>7970821
>>7970822
his best pairing and story in one

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>Sakurako Sayama is a housewife who has been married for five years.
>She had one complaint. She hasn't had sex with her husband in several years.
>Dhe has tried asking him a few times before he goes to bed, but he always goes to bed first. She was depressed and thought,
"I wonder if she doesn't find me attractive anymore..."

>>7977073
Are you >implying that when you watch a girl masturbate or two girls go at it you pretend to be a woman?

>>7977207
>wasting this qt on a generic self insert "bull"
yawn

>>7975270
>>7975420
Pray for more anal man content

>>7975635
I think this one is his weakest work honestly

>>7977534
>Are you implying that when you watch a girl masturbate or two girls go at it you pretend to be a woman?

yes

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>An infertile young wife in her 20s who has not been able to conceive after trying for a year.
>She makes up her mind and visits an obstetrics and gynecology department, but during her interview, she is asked in-depth information about her usual sex life.
>She is then ordered to lie face down on the bed completely naked for an examination, and the doctor's force compels her to accept his orders.
>And while she was waiting completely naked, she was suddenly penetrated...

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Will pic rel ever be topped?

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>Several months have passed since her husband left for work alone, and Hazuki Soma, a full-time housewife, has been masturbating alone as she has no one to share her feelings with.
>However, her pent-up sexual desire is on the verge of collapse, and she is constantly in agony as she cannot be satisfied with masturbation.
>During those days, her son's (Haruki) friend (Shunsuke), who had come to stay over, caught her masturbating, andalthough she rejected him at first, she couldn't control her desire and took in her son's friend's penis.

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>My wife is neat and beautiful and I love her ...but she was having sex without my permission
with my brother-in-law who often came to my house .

>>7977310
I love hairy women

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>One day, Miki, an ordinary high school girl, is invited to karaoke by Aira, a popular student in her class.
>He was worried about whether it was okay for him to go, but when he headed there, he found two men who claimed to be Isla's friends.
>As the story progresses, Miki takes the supplement given to her by Isla and becomes extremely sleepy and falls asleep...
>And when she woke up again, both her virginity in front of her and her virginity in her back had been taken away!

Wait. Did Vanilladefender get tired of us? Where'd he go?

>>7978311
To the shadow realm

>>7970158
>>7971120
even if it's warranted, I didn't like the vibe as much
I much prefer NTR about the failure of the woman vs. the failure of the man.
there's a bunch of cuck humiliation and shaming in the second part of laliberte.
contrast this with something like Takeda's work where a perfectly fine guy gets NTR'd because his partner is a slut.

>>7978311
It's always like this now. These threads would be long dead without that weirdo roleplaying a bot posting fresh works 24/7.

>>7978370
>I much prefer NTR about the failure of the woman
I prefer to think about it like the liberation of the woman, as in
>she gets to feel so good with her bull any other aspect of her life becomes irrelevant, including her partner/family/status.
But for the love of god dont let her become a cock addict, thats the shitiest trope in NTR.

>>7978418
I miss when the threads were 3/4 of Shaku discussion.

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>As teachers' working conditions became a problem, the government introduced a "comfort officer" system that legalized sexual intercourse with students in order to increase the number of teachers.
>The protagonist has just started dating her, but she is chosen to be the teacher's comforter. During her class, he acts as her teacher and has sex with her in front of the entire class.

>>7975618
This.

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>the bull actually married the girl in the end
My favorite trope desu.

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father-in-law

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Saw this on f95. Seems like a corrupting the plain jane girl type. Anyone tried it out?

>>7975630
IRL Ugly bastard self inserting as the ugly bastard, thats it.
Which is funny because in most stories the UB has either magical/hypnotic powers or social status to coerce the ladies, things IRL ugly bastards who read hentai will never have.

Unironic cucks are the WORST thing to happen to the NTR Fandom.

Western cuckoldry had infected and perverted the purity of what NTR is supposed to be, the corruption of a good woman into an evil woman.
Now we got these fucking cucks demanding to see MC cucks gargle on the bull's cum, it's disgusting.

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>>7978590
Wholesome endings and NTR dont quite mix imo, best compromise is the girl being happier as part of the bull's harem (or at least keep him a womanizer) than when she was as the mc's partner.

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>>7978802
>Bull turns woman into such a humongous slut she ends up breaking her boyfriend/husband mind
After admiting defeat to the bull's superiority the mc should either leave or become a side note, otherwise the story would inevitably dive into sissy/maso territory.
Pic related is kinda unique, oyakodon get so good at sex that, after fucking the husband and boyfriend for hours before leaving them for good, those guys' minds are so broken they become paypigs and start following the bull online so they can jerk off to their threesomes.

>>7978696
Says you. Glasses + twin braids are absolute top tier.

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>Ritsuko, a married woman with a kind husband and a cute son, takes in and raises Seiya, the son of her dead brother.
>Ritsuko is confused by her brother and nephew, who she has no memory of ever existing, but when Seiya orders her to have sex, for some reason she obeys without resisting...
>Ritsuko, who feels strange but cannot remember why, spends her days being raped by Seiya.
>Furthermore, Seiya's orders extend to her husband, son Tomoya, and even Tomoya's classmates and married women in the neighborhood! !

>>7979041
i find hypno shit really boring especially this series, but the only reason i want this series translated is because i want to know what the fuck is that crazy ending is about.

>>7979057
I used to hate all hypno shit, but I actually like the idea of the people around the girl reacting to her strange behavior, especially if it results in despair for the cuck when he sees her weird behavior.
Unfortunately 99% of hypno shit is just straight up rape without the parts that make rape good.

>>7979057
essentially there's three kinds of hypno stuff.
1. good girl becomes evil
2. normal girl becomes attracted to a guy, a.k.a. love potion style
3. girl becomes an emotionless sexbot with blank eyes

>>7979079
I sometimes like it when it's used as a semi effective tool or more of an influencing thing instead. Like when the hypnosis cancels mid action but the girl still enjoys it despite conflicting thoughts, but the hypno is no longer required

>>7979041
Bai asuka fell off, he used to be one of those 'extreme' ntr artist back then, his current ntr works are tame compared to the old ones

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>>7975421
It's from Netorase Club which is peak NTR.

>nooo it's nts

NeToRase, it's all NTR to me.

>>7978603
Source?

>>7979207
Retard nigger use the build-in sauce finder

>>7979188
NTS is allowed here, ignore the retards

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>My precious girlfriend, Moegi-san, does everything I tell her.
>That's why we started making out on the crowded train on my way to school.
>But this morning, we were found out by a businessman, threatened, and she was raped as hush money...
>A collection of 7 love stories that vividly depict the misery of women, such as schoolgirls who are raped on a daily basis.

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>Yumemi Kokomi Kouhen

>>7978802
>Unironic cucks are the WORST thing to happen to the NTR Fandom.

NTR is now a big tent party with multiple factions within and there are people here who definitely don't belong here.
the NTR Party needs a good purging.

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>>7979278
hey, this looks kinda gay

>>7979308
>paralyzing trap on door handle

oh come on, now that's just fucking silly and the author is just taking the piss.

>>7978817
Nah they mix pretty well. It's an additional fuck you to the MC and the reader because in those stories they can't cope with the usual "well she's a whore deep down and i avoided a landmine" shit.

>>7978367
This lol.

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Has this been translated yet? I can find parts 1-8.

>>7977854
Man, I miss old Sanagi.
He hasn't made a good NTR story since Aheochi 3byou.

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Anime trailer for Tsuma o Dousoukai ni Ikasetara is out. Looks good.

https://chobit.cc/r9gvt/7jryf2b2

>>7979188
>>7974020
why did they remove this one from nhentai and sadpanda?

>>7979440
Not gay as long as they both don't blush!

>>7970034
All he had to do was make the cuck oblivious and it would have been 10000x better desu

>>7979911
TLDR:
On Takahashi is colluding with Tendonjew (sadpanda owner/admin) and nhentai owner. Notice nhentai scraper is so slow? It's because they're purposefully removing contents that aren't approved by On Takahashi.

See scumbini's comment
https://e-hentai.org/g/1959485/a6c397c250/

Your best bet is searching on hitomi.

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There's only one doujin that desperately needs a continuation and it's this one

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> Chieri, a black-haired, big-breasted married woman, became the meat urinal of her neighbor Kiyamada because of her husband Shotaro's hobby of cuckolding, and she indulged in creampie sex with the apartment residents every day as ordered. In the end, they even have an orgy with a homeless person, and they end up having sex all the time in a 24-hour live streaming room ...

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>Nanami-chan is an innocent and honorable student at school, but behind the scenes, she releases her uncontrollable emotions through 〇Rin〇 sex broadcasts.
>Please enjoy the gap between Nanami-chan's pure appearance and the disordered appearance of the video.

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>An old-fashioned married woman who made a mistake while intoxicated.
>While she is worried that she's done with her, the company president, who believes that what she's done can't be helped, urges Kotora to have some fun.
>She opens her body to the company president in order to keep him from talking to her, but...

anyone know the name of the hentai with a girl getting fucked doggystyle at a bus stop at night while her bf looks on?
i think she was wearing glasses and a green dress

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do Anons actually support NTR games/comics/voice works by buying them?

>>7980425
Ew. Of course not.

>>7980425
I donate the one guy I like twice a year, when I'm too horny to wait for leaks. I really wouldn't be able to afford giving away more donations anyway. I'm a third-worlder, and those spoiled babies often think it's okay to ask for 5+ dollars for their shit. Monthly.

>>7980514
It is okay, stop being poor instead.

>>7971064
>slightly tan japanese male

retard

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>My Nene-chan and Her Friends..

>>7973373
Autists, sociopaths and just people who don't socialize much face to face often have trouble recognizing emotions and identifying with other people. Therefore they don't see the difference between self-inserting and empathy. As you can imagine online boards are full of people like that.

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>A strange daily life where men and women who are not lovers have sex with each other in large numbers
>"But only me and my girlfriend are different!"
>Two outcasts who try to keep their distance from a space with no notions of chastity.
>Me and the transfer student Shishisaka-san. You will never be infected by the sex class...

>>7980544
Yes you are.

>>7978590
>marrying a girl that cheated on her BF

yikes

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>Aya Niizuma works in an underground sex industry to pay off her brother's debt.
>She notices something strange about herself while working in the sex industry every day: "It's starting to feel good."
>Aya Niitsuma feels that if she continues any longer, there will be no turning back, so she decides to quit the sex industry, but a black marketer rushes into her house and tries to get her to go back to the shop.However, a neighbor happens to pass by.
>He offered to pay her back without interest. He seemed like a very kind person at first glance, but he was also the one who dragged her into the darkness.

>>7975076
>Saimin Counselor
thanks anon, if you know more lemme know ^^

What are your favorite unexpected/niche bull archetypes?

>>7981798
>unexpected/niche bull archetype
I think this is uncommon enough: motokare who took the girl's virginity before. Bonus points if that fact bothers the cuck with the bull gloating about it.

>>7981798
family bulls.
the cuck's entire family fucks his girl behind his back.
the dad, the brother, the sister, the mom, the dog, EVERYONE in the family fucks the cuck's girl behind his back.

>>7979089
this looks really promising actually

>>7980557
>>7973373
I'm sorry but the whole point of porn is how you subconsciously self insert in the story and there are things that appeal to you. Like, when a girl is sucking your dick, you're going to subconsciously feel like it's your dick being sucked for example.

Normies going into a fetish that isn't for them while empathizing with porn characters is retarded. It's literally not for them. Don't even pretend like there's so much context to the cuck. 99.9% of the time it's either the POV of the bull or the girl.

>>7981798
I can't think of any that stick out.
I guess the "harmless dad" bull is pretty good, where the dad "steals" the mc's childhood friend not out of maliciousness but out of mutual love because the the dad and childhood friend were able to grow closer while the mc was oblivious or busy with other shit like sports or cram school.

>>7981798
when the bull steals the girl AND the cuck.

What are some of the best ntr moments in non hentai works?
I think Nozoki Ana has a ntr part but it's kinda of weird, if I recal correctly mc's girlfriend is actually this other guys girl and this guy likes when she fucks other dudes? kinda of a weird ntr
Deadtube has some ntr for the other characters, the bullied kid one is my favorite, I think it's around chapter 40~?
Hinowa ga Yuku!, akame ga kill sequel has the villain kill this girls boyfriend, show his decapitated head and then fuck her

I guess that's all I got, these are all touching the line of whats hentai vs not but they are still classified as manga's

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>>7982337
God I love her.

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Best doujins with rimming?

>>7970493
we roling

>>7979765
He made good NTR, but many of them had terrible endings. Dear Sex friend is a good example. Photorare had potential, but ended with the same "everyone is happy" ending.

>>7982323
Obvious Freezing, where the MC's girl turns out to be sexually trained by the arc's bad guy since childhood. Then she proceeds to not be able to say no to him throughout the arc due to trauma.

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>>7981798
Mineta unironically.

Any kind of gooner/pervert/unexpected bull really.
Some dorky porn/Fortnite addicted zoomers, femboys etc.

It's like extra layer of humiliation and comedic effect added on top when such a dumb obnoxious shitty pervert who is supposed to be a comedic relief turned your girl into his bitch and she now worships him and rims his ass like a dumb whore.

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>>7982510
Plenty NTR doujins have rimjobs in them, but for me it's best when they acknowledge it or comment on it, usually they don't.
The point of rimming is humiliation so with NTR it should be obvious they should further degrade the girl/cuck with the fact she is eating ass of some stranger/dude he hates and that she would never do it for her bf/cuck.

Netorase Club is great for that and most of other Oosawara Sadao's works.

>>7981798
Bull steals the girl, but he was actually the first BSS.

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>High school girl Nagisa has to work as a part-time caregiver in place of her mother.
>During her part-time job, she receives a request from an old man to wash her body with her boobs and big ass.
>Although she tells him not to get carried away with her, he finds out that he can get extra money by having her, so he decides to satisfy the old man's erotic desires for money.

>>7981798
>>7981868
This, but the wife's (or gf) family

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>New semester. The main character, Ryo Kanazawa, reunites with his childhood friend Natsuki Sakurai.
>It's only been a year, but she has become more mature.
>As they talk about her hobbies and her surroundings, Ryo becomes aware of her inexplicable anxiety that she is in a different world than his own.
>From then on, he began avoiding talking to Natsuki, and the two became estranged.
>A few days later, after school, Ryo happens to see Natsuki with a senior from her club. Seeing the sight of their lips touching each other and their bodies stacked on top of each other, Ryo naturally reached for her hand to his crotch.

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>>7982510
I prefer doujins with several pages of rimjob.

>>7981798
When bull is decent person, not another generic NTR asshole

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>netorare where the antagonist trained the girl to be their ideal personal woman without the whole mindbreak and ahegao bullshit

there's an ntr I'm thinking of that I can't find if someone can help out. The girl is a busty short stack who is fucking the dad and the boyfriend is completely oblivious, like they're in the next room over and he has no idea. Could anyone help find this one? I know it's a bit vague.

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>>7983263
Minimum Kanojo wa Oyaji no Seidorei?

>>7982173
Bidom is an underrated tag

>>7982019
The point of porn is not to 'self-insert' in the story, it's to self-insert in the guy that is fucking. That's why you have tons of porn with no story or just a very basic setup.
Once you have a story with a point of view character, and the author has done their job for it to pass basic believability requirements (very low for porn), you will have some opinion about it. And a 'normie', who's brain isn't replaced by a dick, will generally not like the sociopathic garbage that is often the plot of ntr even if they want to fap. Even if it's a woman's point of view (it's cuck's just as often, your 99% is utter nonsense), not everyone will want her to be pounded into the ground by some pickup artist or rapist with magic cock powers.

Friendly reminder NTR is made by cucks for cucks. Every single person here is a cuck and any denial is a coping mechanism.

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>>7983486
poor deluded vanillacuck

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>>7983263
If it's not >>7983326 then [FAN] Osananajimi wa Otou-san no... fits the bill as well

>>7982811
This.
It's so much hotter when the girl falls for someone she wouldn't even look at under normal circumstances, especially if the cuck initially felt superior to the bull/didn't feel threatened by him.
It makes the heroine's falling feel even more perverted since she basically fell for the "inferior guy" because of the sexual pleasure he provides her and makes the cuck's eventual realization even more soul crushing than it would have been if she had fallen for the stereotypical Chad bull.

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>>7983718
You get it. It's hot as fuck.
And i mean that sincerely and 100% seriously, not even in fetish/hot kind of way, but way more shows/shonens should have a trope where the twerp/comedic relief/pervert character scores the hottest baddie in the show and she's absolutely devoted to him to everyone's surprise.

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>A caring childhood friend, a chairperson wearing glasses, a strong lesbian couple, a witch in a fantasy world, an apprentice knight...
>At school, in the car, at her part-time job, on the train...

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>>7981798

>>7983326
Not the same anon but this stuff is some of my fav, love it a lot, if you know more similar please share

>>7982337
New chapter?

>>7981798
>>7982811
"unlikely coupling" is what i call this. very enticing when mixed with the ntr genre. good taste.

>>7983385
Basically this. Though I think normies have a bit more tolerance though and are fine with a bit of maledom as long as it's portrayed as enjoyable fucking in the end. So non-NTR like Hal is too much for them and NTR with evil bulls is a massive turnoff.

>>7984386
Yeah it's the last chapter.

>>7970493
let's see

>>7982173
Can you list a couple you like
I have only seen this in like 5 works and half of them was under a comedic tone.
I see it more frequently in western works but not in eastern ones as much
Also no diddy.
Haha jk IDC if that shit comes off as diddy.

>>7983385
>The point of porn is not to 'self-insert' in the story
When I said story, I meant in a general sense like everything going on in the story. Like the dick being sucked, the guy fucking the girl in doggy style, the guy having a cream pie, and etc. So yeah, I agree that with the whole subconsciously self inserting as the guy doing the fucking.

>Once you have a story with a point of view character, and the author has done their job for it to pass basic believability requirements (very low for porn), you will have some opinion about it. And a 'normie', who's brain isn't replaced by a dick, will generally not like the sociopathic garbage that is often the plot of ntr even if they want to fap. Even if it's a woman's point of view (it's cuck's just as often, your 99% is utter nonsense), not everyone will want her to be pounded into the ground by some pickup artist or rapist with magic cock powers.
I don't really see how this is suppose to counter what I said about going into something that isn't clearly made for you, and then complaining about it. You're some rookie braindead coomer if you're just watching or reading porn from the beginning to the end instead of actually consuming genres made for you. Like, I'll be skimming through porn until I come across good shit. It's really not difficult at all. Am I gonna complain about coming across some futa shit that I'd see for a second? Doesn't take long to exit out and it's not like NTR hides the fact that it's NTR really well when it's clearly obvious from just the cover itself.

>>7983385
>That's why you have tons of porn with no story or just a very basic setup.
NTA but I just wanna point out maybe thats why porn is crap, BLACKED videos' best part is always the first 5-10 minutes when the white chick is explaining to the audience how big of a slut she is.

>>7983684
Ah yup, this is the exact one I was thinking of. Where'd you get the full english translation from?

>>7985001
Few gave a shit about ntr when it was a marginal fetish 15 years ago. Now people can't shut the fuck up about it. Futa is just another weird kink that you can ignore unless the author in their infinite wisdom decides to make an unexpected surprise. Ntr is uniquely insulting to peoples sensibilities both because of its bait and switch setup (when it's cuck's pov) and its immorality.
I used to consume much more ntr than I do now (you could call me a braindead coomer all you want, in the end porn is about visuals for most people) until I realized how much copium I have to inhale to be okay with all the bullshit. I don't like watching people get humiliated, their relationships ruined. And that being presented as a fap material is at least a bit weird when you step back and take a hard look at it.

>>7979466
you get brother watching the girl being happy with the bull while mc is miserable just adds more to the humiliation

>>7985105
Nevermind, found it. It's one of the first results when googling "[FAN] Osananajimi wa Otou-san no"

>>7979971
Hitomi uses webp images.
Last time I tried to convert a comic to a .cbz archive, I failed miserably.

>>7980557
>>7983385
> anti ntr anon in a ntr thread
>uses buzzwords like "autism" and "sociopath" to describe ntr fans
>tries to bring empathy into the argument on a genre based around the cuck losing always. The point of the genre is to lose. That is like pointing out people who play GTA and steal a car or rob a bank are "bad people" because of what they are playing and doing. It's not about being good or bad. It is simply a program to enjoy.
>openly admits to self inserting
People like this can't be reasoned with.
Ntr isn't a power fantasy where the good guy always wins. Also, when you start trying to relate it to real life too much, that is where you will be caught up.
You are also using the word empathy wrong. Of course you are, given that you don't seem like your thoughts are very well thought out.
When you read a story and feel for the cuck, it is 99 percent of the time a feeling of sympathy.
Empathy would be used in the context of you having experienced that same thing and you feel for the person.
Sympathy is just feeling for the person because you feel for them.
I never got cheated on and raised another guys child for 18 years all while he fucked her behind my back. Probably less than 100,000 on earth have experienced that. Me feeling for him would be sympathy.
God, "muh empathy" has got to be the biggest psych-buzzword ever. The people saying it don't even use it correctly.
This shit is sympathy.
And yeah, to wrap this up this genre is mostly a guilty pleasure for most. When maso fans see the cuck getting screwed over, they may feel for the cuck but its so hot seeing him get cheated on. For some people, the feeling of feeling bad is what tuns them on.
Whatever buzzword you want to call that "SOCIOPATH" is whatever. Just know that liking a story where good people get fucked over and bad people win isn't enough to classify as a sociopath.
And no, the main point of porn is not to self insert, It's pleasure.
Stop pushing your untrue beliefs onto others.

>>7985323
Tldr;
>Liking ntr isn't enough to classify someone as sociopathic and autism has just become a buzzword for "person I disagree with and don't like."
>Also you are using the word empathy wrong. What you are describing is sympathy.
Plus getting upset for a cuck in a ntr and throwing a hissy fit is futile. It's like complaining a horror movie is too scary. Or a comedy movie is making you laugh too much.
Also porn is about pleasure, not self inserting. Self inserting is damaging to the mind especially in a vanilla and power fantasy works. That is a big culprit of misery in modern men nowadays.
Ntr is mostly a guilty pleasure genre. Also pleasure doesn't have to be about having sympathy for the character it is simply about what makes you feel good.
If that is watching the cuck get his bitch taken, then so be it.
There are some other points in the longer post.

Can anyone give me the name of the comic with the girl fucking the MC's black bully? His gf is totally sadistic and secretly like that MC is getting bullied. I think also his sister tries to help him but then gets blacked herself. Probably the same plot to a billion hentai out there but...

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I think that this one doujin is the perfect litmus test to tell if you're a self-inserter.
It's a netori, so the poor guy getting cucked doesn't appear too much.
If you're a braindead, uncritical self-inserter, then you'll believe that the good guys won. After all you self-insert in the MC, and the MC wins.
If you've grown out of self-inserting, you'll realize the MC is a pushy asshole, the girl a cheating slut and the poor cuck was a nice guy who was treated horribly and then abandoned by the girl he loved without an explanation.

>>7985338
No, that never existed anon. You dreamed it. Forget about it.

>>7985338
Don't do this. You know already.

>>7985338
By the way, technically speaking, Hiroki WAS the bully.

>>7985352
>even in netori he self inserts as the cuck
NTRcucks truly mindbroken.

>>7985352
This.
You nailed it right on the head anon!
I remember reading this and feeling bad AF for her boyfriend.
Then all the netori-cucks and normies were in the comments saying shit like:
>"Well they were gonna break up
>"he liked her first"
and my personal favorite:
>"you barely see the cuck"

>>7985363
No, anon. I don't self-insert at all. In fact, I believe self-inserters are either low-IQ or children, period.

>>7985363
NTA but It's not about self inserting as the cuck.
We are past the point of self insertion. We were able to take a step back and see that the generic Mob-MC is a shitty asshole, and the cuck got screwed over. That is why when you have sympathy for the cuck, it makes ntr 100x hotter. Genuine guilty pleasure.
God damn your reading comprehension is dogshit.

>>7985352
they were gonna break up anyway
the MC also liked her first before he moved away
and the cuck gets like 3 pages

>>7985366
>I believe self-inserters are either low-IQ or children, period.
That's exactly what NTRcucks are. It's weird that you're deflecting this much when all NTR authors are cucks making explicit content for cucks.
>>7985367
Weird way to say you're a cuck, but whatever makes you sleep at night lol

>>7985373
Kek

Am I tripping or are there less c103 ntr doujins being uploaded than previous comikets? Or was it just fakku irodori taking them down with bullshit dmca?

>>7985452
Credit card companies cucks westerners from buying and uploading it.

>>7985355
>>7985356
>>7985357
I really don't know the name, but I guess it's a real banger here. I will find it eventually.

>>7985461
Yes tf you do, moron.
And there is something called tag search, on every hentai website.
Hell, a quick google search will give you a result way father than any ntr fan here.
God damn people like you are a pain in the ass.

>>7985485
I don't spend all day on a porn board like you, moron.

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Why is this shit still going on, for fucks sake just end this story already, take the villain girl and make third "yume ka" hypno kino chapter with her

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>>7985502
HAHAHA good one retard.
Your time is SOOO valuable right?
But what your stupid ass doesn't realize is that you are wasting MORE fucking time trolling on this board then taking literally 3 seconds to do a Google search. It's literally the 2nd result if you search black bully netorare.

>>7985519
>hypno kino
You should slice your wrists ASAP

>>7985502
>>7985521
stupid fucks like you show up every thread asking what is the name of this same comic. Like we are supposed to keep entertaining this low effort trash.
Damn the janitors need to do something about that shit. It should constitute as a deletion/ban at this point.

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>>7985519
The villain bitch will never be ntr'd.
Me and you probably discussed this before, but she is ntr-proof.
She is the one who DOES the ntr.

>>7985524
yes, yume ka utsutsu ka is THIS good
It's hypnosis done right

>>7985363
lmao it's so easy to spot the vanillacuck

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>>7985214
>I don't like watching people get humiliated, their relationships ruined. And that being presented as a fap material is at least a bit weird when you step back and take a hard look at it.

I don't see why it would be weird, romance needs conflict, nothing makes people lose interest faster than a romance that lacks heat, passion and conflict. Even your harem vanilla story needs conflict, people will keep buying volume after volume of a manga because they want to see which girl will win and get the MC.

People love reading romantic stories with high doses of conflict, Romeo and Juliet is one of the most famous tragic romances exactly because of how charged with conflict and angst the story is. No one would remember Romeo and Juliet if the story was just about two teenagers having sex and living happily ever after, which is exactly the plot of 80% of all vanilla doujins.

This is the real reason I like NTR, the conflict between all characters works very much like the plot in a dark romance novel, the Bull is fighting to conquer the girl and take her for himself by any means necessary, the girl is fighting to remain loyal to her boyfriend, and the cuck is fighting to save the woman he loves. And like in most romance novels, you already know exactly who will win, but the journey is what matters.

>>7985539
I find vanillacuck such a funny insult, it proves NTRcucks are low intelligence not knowing about oxymorons.

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>The series includes "Kowamote Boss Wants to Babu", in which the couple deal with their boss's troubled proclivities,
>"Stepmother's Temptation" depicts a forbidden relationship with a stepmother who has a past as an adult film actress,
>A beautiful brown woman is raped all over her body by a therapist in "How to relax a shining brown body" and more,
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>>7985521
>>7985525
Right, so you are admitting that if it was about some other work, you would just give me the name, but since you are an autistic faggot who spends all day on here and thinks everyone in the world knows what’s popular and not, you are sperging out on me.
Maybe add the name to the OP somewhere if it’s actually a problem - you know, an attempt at something constructive to solve your “problem” if it’s actually that frequent.
Zero IQ on some people…

>>7985631
I think Arakure is the best at NTR stories by far. No evil raped/drugged/kidnapped premise (mostly), no husband who doesn't lay a hand on a hot woman, just some sluts who found a good cock and want some more.

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Available in Anchira

>>7985661
Finally

>>7985653
I think he has some good scenarios, but he has a serious same-face problem.

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Fuck me, so many times when I go to amazon to search for new erotic novels with anything close to NTR, I see stuff like "my boyfriend cheated on me first, now I will have revenge by having cheating sex with his father behind his back".

This is peak normiecore, turning the "cuck" into a villain, that way both the writer and the readers can justify all the cheating sex, because the cuck "deserves to suffer" for being a bad person. Searching for a good Father-in-law x wife story is almost impossible because of this shit.

I hate it, part of what makes NTR great is the genuine angst that comes with watching the girl break down right in front of her husband, the animalistic sex getting intense enough to make her face melt into pure pleasure, and at last the husband is forced to accept how much his "pure and wholesome wife" is loving having her pussy used and abused by the Bull fat cock.

You can't have a genuine heart-rending reaction like that if the story turns the cuck into a villain from page one, no one will blame the girl for making zero effort to stay loyal, there is no conflict or angst involved, no heartbreak.

>>7985683
>he has a problem every artist has

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>>7985693
Correct, it's just lazy writting. You can still make the mc unlikeable without turning him into a wife beater or a cheater, and focus the story the girl's overwhelmingness before the bull's sexual prowess.

>>7985631
>>7985653
>rape
>epilogue NTR
Im gonna check his other works because his art is kinda cute, but that beach story was quite the letdown. Milf was totally raped in that one.

>>7985766
my favorite from him is the one where the girl thought his bf was cheating because of some card that looked like a brothel/soapland membership so she went and hooked up with someone then the guy had the same card and it was a point card for a store or something

>>7985693
>This is peak normiecore, turning the "cuck" into a villain, that way both the writer and the readers can justify all the cheating sex, because the cuck "deserves to suffer" for being a bad person.
Unfortunately nips also use this shitty trope too in VN and hentai. I remember that one VN about fucking pregnant women. It was awesome but of fucking course at the end of one heroine's route, it was revealed that her husband actually cheated on her.

No foreshadowing, no hints. Nothing. All to absolve the MCs of the sins of fucking someone's else wife.

The plainer, more self-inserty the MCs are, the more possible it is for the author to use this shit trope.

>>7985791
This one was especially funny
>Stop molesting my daughter!
>No, she's into it
>We're leaving!
>Ok but there are other molesters out there in the world.
>Damn, guess I'll have to get molested instead!

I'm really like Ara Kei's trope of girls looking innocent but are actually easy sluts. Any recs for works with a similar trope, or artists that do similar stuff?

>>7985585
Like I said. You are wasting your time here troll kun. You were in the last thread and the thread before that asking:
>D-Does anyone know the story where the black bully beats up the guy and fucks his girlfriend?
Simply fuck off now. Nobody is gonna entertain you this time.
GOOGLE EXISTS!

>>7985683
That's what makes his girls hotter.
I immediately know it's him, because I've seen the girl 100 times before.
It's like he is marking his territory. Letting us know that
>this girl is gonna get ntr'd
He truly makes some of the best married woman ntr