Discuss all forms of NTS-themed images, manga, anime, doujinshi, visual novels, games, etc EXCEPT:-Content/Discussions about IRL cuckolding / Larping. This thread is only intended for 2D NTS.-Content/Discussions about straight NTR or NTS --> NTR. (This belongs in the NTR thread)NTS with NTR elements is okay as long as it stays NTS.Also: long discussions are okay but make sure your post has an NTS-related image.NTS works/illustrations:- hhttps://niyaniya.moe/?s=tag:^netorase$ (check mirrors if link is down)- https://hentainexus.com/?q=tag:netorase- https://exhentai.org/tag/female:netorase- https://exhentai.org/?f_search=female%3Anetorare%24+female%3Aswinging%24 (replace x with minus if you're a newfag)- https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/%E5%AF%9D%E5%8F%96%E3%82%89%E3%81%9BPopular NTS Artists: https://pastebin.com/KhVhhGMKNTS Games: https://pastebin.com/Pw97kzWbMore NTS Games: https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-games-master-list.90458/https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-content-master-list.211290/NTS Twine Novels: https://pastebin.com/gY3SPHbQSource: Stains of BluePrevious Thread: >>8714421
I want to create a netorase game with some simple gameplay, but I'm going to use AI to draw the artWould you support my patreon?
Peak NTS right here
>>8730375Don’t like how they chickened out by making it an open ending especially with how it ended it could either go into basic ntr or nts and since we didn’t get any proper closure it would lead more towards ntr
>>8730375The art is insane on this one.
>>8730377not a fan either, but that's how 95% of jap nts end. sigh
>>8730371I don't support any patreon.
>>8730375>had a crush on her husband since she was a young >but also gave it up left and right to whoever asked for it I feel nothing from this.
>>8730371No, but that's because I don't support any Patreon games, not because I have anything against AI.Netorase Phone uses AI art, and it makes thousands on Patreon every month.
>>8730484It's fascinating how one man's ideal sexual scenario or female can be so revolting to another.I personally think any woman who genuinely cheats, no matter how cute, sexy, or charming, becomes truly disgusting in my eyes. Not a controversial take, sure, but the guys over at NTR General would disagree.Obviously NTS is different.
>>8730484It's like 50% the husband's fault for not making a move earlier
>>8730375>Pourietan, an excellent artist, does countless vanilla mini comics over the years>Finally decide to do a long form proper doujin>NTSListen, I like NTS plenty, not my favorite, but I like it. But I gotta admit, this stung. I hope now that she might be dabbling in longer stories, they don't become another NTR only peddler.The yandere neighbor story was peak perfection. Let's see a full version of that.
Hey does anyone know how many animations k8on made? I can find three on rule34video. An one hour long one, a six minutes one and one that is just one minute. Also, is there anymore like the shit he did? The one hour one was fucking peak. Idk about the visuals as long as the dirty talk is good. Preferably sub, I don't know any Japanese.
>>8730484So it's BSS bullshit, a sub category of NTRash, skip. Thanks >>8730484 for the heads up. >>8730598She didn't truly love him either then for not making a move aswell.Let me guess you also are the one who shills the garbage gf tapes game.
>>8730666What the fuck are you schizo'ing out about?
>>8730668Go back.
>>8730613>Let's see a full version of that.A sequel where she discovered his NTS fetish? heh
>>8730666His fetish was developed through BSS, watching her escapades in High School through his telescope. But they are currently married when the sharing starts. Ending is open-ended, so we don’t know if they stay together after the 2nd session.
>>8730684Sorry but I just can't get behind BSS shit if a girl claims she loved the MC which just seems like a manipulative lie. It's even worse than NTRash and I believe only extreme masos with an abuse fetish can stomach it. >Girl:I have crush on Mc>Also girl:I will never confess and fuck the mc instead I will fuck everyone else and in the end gaslight the Mc into thinking it's his fault.
>>8730659Those three videos are all there is. Guy went and commissioned/did the videos from the doujins.He does good shit, but why does every girl look the same. I loved the tanned blonde from his other NTR Doujin, wish he came up with a goth design.
>>8730774Artsyle + artist preference. Personally I really like the way he draws his girls, it's something about the eyes and expressions.
>>8730371VNs with gameplay already make me raise an eyebrow, but use of AI would make me never try it.
>>8730375If there ever is a sequel, it is guaranteed to be NTR or turn into a loveless, broken marriage where the cuck raises Kouhai's kids and the wife becomes one of his call girls. The cuck can't even satisfy his wife WITH cuck rage. They drifted away from each other in high school. Their marriage was one of convenience, as it was arranged, which means the only thing keeping the wife from not leaving is a long forgotten childhood crush and the convenience of being a housewife to a successful salaryman.
Okay, I didn't expect that much praise for this character. That was surprising.Anyway, here's a strip of her in option 2. https://files.catbox.moe/mcigvp.jpg
>>8730965Flattie with a thick ass and thighs is a winning combo, after all.
>>8730736Nigger. The BSS happens in a flashback.When the story starts, the main couple is together and married already.
some more takuran for those interested
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>>8731038The stagfag can't read Japanese.
>>8731048Honestly weg-only stagfags should fuck off to /aco/ but the cucks here just allow off-topic niggers raping the thread
Any good nts games for mobile?
>>8731046Holy built! I'd greedily eat her creampied pussy
>>8730965Holy fuck that was so hot. The only way for it to be even better was if she did anal too.
>>8730371As long as the AI art is serviceable and not too bland and there is a good story I think there would be people willing to support it. For me if I don't like the art there is a 0% chance I would even want to try it out. The gameplay part is also a big question mark for me. You would need to be more specific.
>>8731204>>8730854I just think there's too many phone style VN's where your only input is hitting yes or no every 10 minutes of readingIt would be something simple just to break the game into sections and have you look forward to the next scene, like a work minigame of some sort Also I've been genning shit for years now so I'm confident I can make the art look good at least
>>8731230I feel like splitting the developer's attention between making art, writing a good story AND making some fun gameplay might be too much for one person. I feel like a straight forward VN without any routes is still the best way to make a NTS game because otherwise it is just too much work for one person. But if you feel like you can do it then I won't discourage you. Personally I also just enjoy reading without any gamplay distractions because it makes it more immersive for me. Would still try it out if I like the artstyle that is used and the character design/personality though.Could you post a sample image of your AI gens? I would like to see it.
>>8731230How does a work minigame exhance the experience though? It might be kinda novel the first time, but by the third, fourth, tenth time you're made to do busy work it's gonna feel like a giant waste of time. People aren't playing NTS to play bad minigames. Why not just fill the valleys in the story with, you know, more story?About AI, it's not about whether it looks good or not - though typically it looks uncanny because it's made by people who are not artists - but more the ethical concerns. I don't want to support use of AI, period. I'd take koikatsu models all day over it.
>>8731111I have some leftover shots because they didn't fit the strip, and yeah, there was anal
>>8731261>Why not just fill the valleys in the story with, you know, more story?That's how I also feel. Having the couple just go on a trip or spend some time together makes the story feel way more immersive and actually makes me look forward to the next sex scene. Letting the anticipation build like that is more natural than putting filler gameplay inbetween sex scenes.Writing talking scenes between the characters is also easier than doing sex scenes because you don't need to gen new images, add sex sound effects, transitions and so on. So it seems to be the more logical way to pad out the game's duration while also actually making it better.As for AI: The strength of AI images (if they are done well) is that not every game looks the same because everyone uses different artstyles. Koikatsu games all end up looking the same even if they use good models.
>>8730965and something the cum slurpers here might like
>>8730371>Would you support my patreon?No. I'd buy a finished product (even with AI art if it's decent), but I'm not paying $5 bucks a month for a dozen pre-alpha updates before the project gets abandoned after 2 years.>>8731230>simple just to break the game into sections and have you look forward to the next scene, like a work minigame of some sortDo you have any examples? Sounds like a nice way to give the player some agency.
>>8731111>The only way for it to be even better was if she did anal too.Quads of truth>>8731264Now I want to see more
>>8731269nice, I think cuck meals are the best when they're from a femboy bull. since you get to enjoy his and her cum at once
>>8730965The girl being really domineering during the cuckolding sex and loving afterwards is one of my favorite tropes.I also like her design but in some imgages her face looks weird to me. Almost like she has bugs bunny buck teeth.
>>8731046Can you post a version where I can actually read the text?
>>8731259I have a piss easy job I can do at home, and the images are fast to make, the biggest time consumer would be writing and maybe coding if I do go with something more than a VNI don't know if I'm finished with the design, if anybody has recommendations for changes appearances then I'm listening, but that's really up to personal preference.https://files.catbox.moe/iedu2n.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/64yda2.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/bd6boi.png>>8731261>>8731268I get that, but personally I dislike the way koikatsu looks I also don't know how it works and have no interest in learning.I know lots of people won't touch a game with AI but that's something I'm willing to live with since it gives me complete control to make everything myself and the way I want it>>8731270I don't. It's what I'm mostly brainstorming on right now. But since lots of people have replied to me, I'm going to put the overall ideas I have right now for some feedback Game divided into day and nighttime. You work during the day (some quick and easy minigame, 3 minutes per session max) and get a scene during the nightYou earn money at your job depending on how well you perform and you can use that money to buy things for your girlfriend. Specific things unlock new scenes. As for the story I want a lot of diverging paths to let the player choose the type of scenarios he wants. They'll all be netorase focused, and off the top of my head I thought of: Sharing with a friend, sharing with strangers, swinging, bbc, femdom, maybe yuri too but I'm not sure anyone is interested in that
>>8731308stop phoneposting
>>8731045>>8731046need more yandere like her doing NTS.
>>8731268>As for AI: The strength of AI images (if they are done well) is that not every game looks the same because everyone uses different artstyles. Koikatsu games all end up looking the same even if they use good models.That might be the case in theory, but not in practice. 80% of AI art is copying the same style, 15% is copying Afrobull, and the rest is just copying random individual artists. In any case, I don't advocate for koikatsu because it looks good, but because it's not unethical and doesn't pretend to be something it's not. It's a serviceable tool to show visuals, and leaves room open to get an artist on board later if they want to, using the koikatsu poses as reference. In my mind they're kind of programmer art.
>>8731321I like that design. She looks very cute. I especially like how unsure she looks at the viewer in the second pic. Almost as if she is asking "I-Is this what you like? Am I doing this correctly?"I like more anime artstyles personally but western artstyles like that can also be appealing and maybe even more fitting. It is a western game afterall. And it is miles better than anything Koikatsu. I don't know why anyone would be against AI that much.I was hesitant about the gameplay part but the way you described the possible gameplay actually seems nice to me if executed well. Having interractions like that could really enhance the immersion with the different possible paths and fetishes.I was mostly concerned because having decent art (either hand-drawn, Koikatsu, AI) and having a good story is already hard enough. Putting gamplay and multiple paths in the mix would only make things even more difficult. But if you think you can pull if off, go for it.And yuri NTS is not something I have ever thought of. Sounds interesting to me.
>>8731335I don't think anyone tries to pretend that their AI art is hand-drawn and the people supporting them also know that it is AI.AI art is just way easier and faster to make than even Koikatsu posing and better looking also. And it could also just be a placeholder for the future where a real artist draws the scenes so to me it is always AI>Koikatsu.But you are totally right about a lot of them all using the same artstyles now that I think about it. Of course there is some variation but I don't get why they don't experiment more. Where do they even get those samey artist combinations from? Do they all just copy the same tutorial or something?
>>8731332I want this sooo bad
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>>8731321that girl would look amazing bouncing on a BBC
>>8731321Sounds promising and the girl looks great. I'd be careful about how many routes you're planning. So many of these games have started out overly ambitious only to get abandoned because the dev got burnt out and wanted to make something else.I don't know what the general consensus on yuri NTS is, but I don't really have an interest in it personally. I'm here to see my girl get dicked down.
>>8731430>that girl would look amazing bouncing on a BBCDo you EVER stop with your BBC lust... We know you crave BBC cum.Dude, just go to a public bus terminal restroom and suck til you are satisfiedNot EVERY NTS needs BBC, but obviously you do!
>>8731321looks better than 90% of ai nts games, i hope you make it
>>8731469>blonde hair>green eyes>cute frecklesliterally built for carrying the bull's black baby
Stains of Blue has updated!https://buzzheavier.com/bq5w6zlkb8bnhttps://mega.nz/file/1MgynT7J#9QZ4vSqBiaILFiOxHhKIAGTrp61Wl_Z3NY5Lno2wpCohttps://subscribestar.adult/zetszuuhttps://zetszuu.itch.io/stains-of-bluehttp://discord.com/invite/Hy7UgdYxQNThis update introduces the second of the four personalities, Cobalt. While Aquamarine was soft and gentle, Cobalt is a dommy mommy who will teach you your place and make you thank her for it. Less Fluttershy, more Asuka.
>>8731532Go seek Canadian healthcare, you subhuman retard.That waifu is built for BWC. She needs to be bred by a beautiful Aryan bull while the MC cheers on.
>>8731342>>8731430>>8731435>>8731495Thanks for the encouragementsThere's still a lot to do before I even start working on it properly, but it's great to see interestAnd I'm glad she's apparently cute enough to start arguments alreadyIf anyone has more feedback or tips to share I'll be around to check it Thought I'd start writing her first encounter to try finding a personality for her>Uhh, I don't know if you want to see that, but after he left I took a picture of... >You know what, just look at it yourself, so you don't think I'm lying about doing it or something...
>>8731565love her design, and your "game" doesn't have to be anything more than a linear VN with a few choices. the most important part of nts is the story anyways
>>8731648Nobody gives a rat ass if you're going to play it or not bet even if it was VN with multiple choices you would still play with a guide anyway. Let people do what they want to do, it's not that hard.
>>8731565Design’s great like other anons said. Freckles are very underrated.Do you have a game engine in mind?
>>8731540>bwcLol. You mean those average weak sausages?
>>8731321>You earn money at your job depending on how well you perform and you can use that money to buy things for your girlfriend.while this sounds interesting>some quick and easy minigame, 3 minutes per session maxthis can get really tedious, fast.Art looks great though.
>While I slave away at my office job just to keep our family afloat, my wife, Takagi-chan, will be on her back for our bull, taking raw, passionate breeding. With my blessing, and because this is my fetish, she’ll lose herself so completely in his primal thrusts that she won’t even remember she’s married. It's a four-page comic that I'll release when it's done.
>>8731771hope to see it soon
>>8731771>she’ll lose herself so completely in his primal thrusts that she won’t even remember she’s married.This sounds NTR
>>8731797Only to a toddler that never read erotica.
>>8730613>does countless vanilla mini comicsalso did countless NTR comics. Her fetish is more on horny af women who are always down for sex.
>>8731797>stagfag can't into literary devices
>husband and wife(former cf) scientist>create time machine>send bull back in time so he steals her before they even get togetherstill NTS?
>>8731864It's still NTS even if the wife don't even love him anymore, mutual agreement doesn't matter!Watching your crush getting fucked is still NTS even though she doesn't even know who you are, because the protagonist likes it, that's what matters!
>>8731744Probably Ren'Py or unity depending on the complexity I decide to go with>>8731768I thought of maybe adding a skip button that just gives you the minimum reward, for people who really don't want to play it
Still waiting for the holy grail of NTS to appear.Wedding night consummation NTS + defloration NTS + impregnation NTS all in one go.
>>8731946>anything but the cuck being involved NTS
>>8731961He'd be there to hold her hand through it all.
>>8731961So actual NTS?
>>8731996Actual vanilla or netori, but certainly not NTS.
>>8731538>>8730334Stains of Blue any good?
>>8732012it looks great but if you're looking for content you will be disappointed right now.
>>8731946I would add:>public ceremony is with the cuck and bride, but the legal documents state the bull and brideand it's perfect
Do we have some good mm netorase yet
>>8732033mm?
>>8732044mom netorase*I don't know how my keyboard did that
>>8732045stop anon you're gonna fucking trigger a thread-long shitfest of whether incest NTS even exists because can moms really be considered your wife/girlfriend to begin with?
>>8732045depends on what you wantmother and son going out and then he wants her to fuck her other guys? ive only seen that one pornstar one on top off my headsfather gets son involved in nts with mother? there are somesome is just a spectator aka ntr? there are many
>>8732053I mean I could claim that water is wet and start an argument in this thread, half of the people here are only around to complain>>8732054Just a simple "Son encourages mom to sleep around and enjoys watching it"
>>8732063https://exhentai.org/g/2637416/4b66e290c9
>>8730965>>8731264>>8731269I kneel
I'm writing a short NTS story featuring an artist OCs and I'd like to commission art for it. Any suggestions? I want about 7 pictures.
>>8732283Eastern artists are very cheap and fast. Check pixiv or skeb
>>8732340I was just asking for suggestions before I go shooting my shot into the void.
>>8732283Can't you ask the original artist
>>8732351The original artist is very popular and probably very busy and I don't know how she would feel about some western man writing smut for her original charters and then getting art done for the smut. I wrote a story that started out as the Brown getting fuck by a guy who has a wife that enjoys watching him fuck other women but it turned into the White one getting fuck and bullying the brown one instead.
Are all the twine novels in the OP dead? That sucks
>>8732356you kind of fucked yourself choosing another artist's OC's. a lot of asian and western artists won't do that type of work for another creator's characters, and the ones that do charge extra for it. also>wants hysterectomy SAD!
>>8732367People have said that, I just set a request using her official pixiv form for her to either draw art or permission to use her OCs, It helps that her OCs are both sluts who have fucked>Little boys>uncles>Fellow students>Futa versions of themselves>Fat old menSo they are freaks, well it's mainly the white one pushing the brown on into these scenarios.
Any recent good new stories? As in not doujins or comics, but eroticas?
>>8731946My next work will be close to this grail.>Wedding anniversary, wife in bridal gown>Wife surprises cuck to celebrate: bull gangbang>Impregnation roulette?I'll get the cuck/player to gently undress his wife in front of the bulls who are raring to ravage her
The desire for Netorase seems to outstrip the production. Is it just that we want netorase more than Japan does or that artists haven't yet caught up to a new trend?
>>8732413I could upload my short story that is a WIP, I'm brand new to writing. I don't know what service to use, pastbin won't let me and rentry takes it down. I'll be real, I don't know if it is truly NTS though.
>>8731946we need more wedding/bride nts in general
>>8732422My anecdotal experience is that NTS doujins and pixiv drawings seem well received by Japs when they happen (even BLACKED content doesn't attract much hate like it does over here), but I'm guessing that's because people are intentionally seeking NTS out. I'm wondering if there is a cultural reason why NTR is the go-to for cuck content over NTS. >or that artists haven't yet caught up to a new trend?I doubt it. NTS has been around long enough by now to gain visibility from NTR artists who could easily make the transition if they really wanted to. Even in JAV the amount of true NTS is minuscule compared to the amount of NTR being produced, with the only real NTS JAV "trend" I've come across being those wedding memorial photoshoot ones.If I had to guess:>artists who rely on the NTR audience aren't willing to take the risk of switching to NTS>a lot of NTR artists aren't even that passionate about NTR and are just trend chasing with the usual blackmail or hypnotism slop, so they simply don't care enough>compared to the west, a higher percentage of Japs enjoy NTR from the maso pov and NTS will never pack the same punch for them>something about willingly letting your woman sleep with other men isn't appealing to the Japanese cuck audienceIt would be interesting to hear why people in the /NTR/ thread don't enjoy NTS.
>>8732422The people who like NTS but are wholly against any sort of NTR>NTS or NTS>NTR are a pretty small group. This isn't just a Japan thing, western writers face the same problem and you can see the same old tired conflicts play out on Patreons, F95 threads, etcIf you're okay with some amount of NTR mixed in with your NTS, there's way more stuff out there for you
>>8732063>>8732128https://exhentai.org/g/2625614/d4ad4a7b64/The only other one is this one, but it's more swinging than netorase.
Found a pastebin like service that doesn't auto delete or block smut. Here is my Story. I'm not sure it is NTS, feel free to judge me harshly, I never took English and this is my first ever story.https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/view/dGj0I1HZawdgnFzPWotQGKEn3rX0WMUuwDyG9dFXYi0/Currently writing the final 2 scenes, then I go back and try to make it all more readable.
>>8732446Pacing is pretty fast, getting a tattoo to remind her lesbian lover of getting dicked is a cool concept. I say work on fluffing it up, slow it down a bit. Lesbians getting dicked is always hot imo.
>>8732452Thanks my English education is poor. I asked on /lit/ for some erotic novel recommendations to really try and learn but I never got a response in the "writing general" thread.
bros how do i un-netorase?
Too many NTR stories end up being boring now and NTS follows it.IS there no NTS stories or heck NTR stories where the cuck gets revenge or moves on with a better life/girl?
>>8731870Um buddy ... that's called NTR ...NTS is an agreed upon situation by both parties for both parties.If one no longer cares about the other or doesn't know anything about the other; its NTR or voyeurism if one is watching.
I've got a legit question ...If NTS is done for the sake of stimulating the sex life of the couple ... then why is it almost every NTS doujin the couple no longer has sex or they just give the dude a handjob? Even if you say its to keep the act going, it never ends which is stupid to me. Idk if I just can't understand the cuck side of things but at the very least I expected the couple to still have sex in that kind of relationship otherwise the sex life is non-existent. I remember one NTS doujin a long time ago where the couple sex life was dead and the wife suggested it, the ground rules were condom always on and the wife went crazy with it and was having gangbangs and all sorts of things following that rule, but eventually the act was giving the husband doubts that his wife would want to stay with him if she is getting pleased elsewhere until one day he confronted her about it and in response his wife, while reporting her latest sexual encounter, fucked the shit out of him and right before she was about to make him bust, she whispered that "he was the only one allowed to drown her womb" - leading to him to fill her up countless times for that night. They only have that kind of sex once a month.
>>8732441That doesn't explain why it isn't more popular among artists. Something about regular NTS just isn't appealing enough to produce for artists already making NTR and NTR/NTS content. That, or I'm overestimating the amount of people who enjoy both regular NTS and NTR.
>>8732527Having good art skills doesn't translate to having good story writing skills. They copy whatever the other nip does and sell it. If you want actual good stories, then start reading erotica.
>>8732522>If one no longer cares about the other or doesn't know anything about the other; its NTRI thought this as well but after replying to 8731771 they told me it's still NTS
I am sick of the same old depraved blackmail rape NTR with blonde bulls and old fat man. It always the same and you just need to watch one.I want to see more wholesome NTR where the cheating is mutual.
Bad news, the next anim team MM is not netorase or even NTR as a matter of fact. I just hope it's not a sign of things to come...
>>8732527From my perspective, I think a lot of people are just too NTR and gooner brained that they forget what NTS is about. It starts as being a fantasy about the wife having consensual cheating sex, but it's taken to the extreme where the husband and wife relationship becomes functionally nonexistent. And the more masochistic you go, the more it resembles a loveless NTR setup. The most gooner brained of these people develop vitriol for any husband and wife content, and will whine incessantly about it. Vulgar Reverie discussions is a prime example of this.I think this problem is compounded by the fact that writing good NTS is kind of nuanced and hard, and most writers are just trying to do the most basic stuff and cash in. >>8732731I saw. Some lame fantasy harem thing. I think it was wishful thinking to think they were already at work on a third NTS work given bokudaka2 took so long, but it's still disappointing.
>>8732752>It starts as being a fantasy about the wife having consensual cheating sex, but it's taken to the extremeThis is just like my opinion man and I am not speaking as some kind of supreme arbiter of NTS here, but I think this frequently happens in series that go for long enough that escalation becomes option. I'm definitely more of a pure love enjoyer so my ideal NTS story arc is fetish reveal girl trying to make sense of how to fulfill the guy's fetishes light NTS (flirting, sending pics, petting etc) hard NTS (cheating sex) reclamation end. Any prolonged form of escalation is at best gratuitous and at worst, they characters become so distorted/corrupted from how they were initially presented that some readers might feel misled or blindsided by the change.You have a story of a couple and their sex life and how they find out and deal with a taboo fetish, and the story ends. At its core I personally regard "vanilla" NTS as a romance story first, and if you've ever spent any time following a romance manga on /a/ you'd know things either end when the couple gets together or they do a time skip to marriage and kids. Drawing it out risks the author needing to introduce unnecessary drama or tension to "keep things fresh" which mirrors a lot of whining about escalation in NTS stories.
>>8732769I'm 100% with you on that. IMO the best NTS is very vanilla and romance heavy, and mostly about the initial escalation of the fetish. Once she finally has sex with someone else for the first time, the biggest peak of the story is over, and it's diminishing returns from there on. You can feasibly hit a few more unique scenes, but then I think you've depleted all the good progression, and keeping it going will largely just work negatively toward the story.I've been trying to think up an NTS story myself, and lately I've been going in circles in my head trying to think about this exact problem of how do you positively keep it going after that initial consumation, and I keep going back to how calling it quits early is best.The parallel to romance manga is interesting. I don't think it's the only way to do romance - I've seen a few manga successfully start at the getting together point and then the story is about what comes after - but it's an interesting comparison.
Porn fanfic guy here. I've gotten approval to use the characters and the artist even wants to read my work. I am now going to take this very seriously and hit books hard and fast to become a 3/10 writer at least. Thank they are Japanese so my horrible English and Grammer should be unnoticed. I am very excited and nervous
>>8732885grats, and based artist wanting to see his OCs cucking others
>>8732896Thank you! I don't actually know what category my story falls into. It is a married man who's wife gets off on watching him have sex with other women and the other is a bisexual couple, one of which is going to watch her girlfriend get fucked mercilessly by the married man.
>>8732904Oh and the girl who is getting fucked is the top in the bisexual relationship, she will be the bottom for the man.
>>8732904probably reverse NTSI know there's an audience for it, I just don't know how big it is compared to regular NTS
>>8732788Feels like Maso NTS has an upper hand here since there are way more breakpoints to get through in the story with the stopping point being your maso level preference. I think 'vanilla' NTS enjoyers fell victim to weg boom and their release structure in terms of available content.I've seen many self proclaimed vanilla NTS fans at f95 grow impatient at devs dragging shit out in a slow burn story which discouraged creating these types of stories>Once she finally has sex with someone else for the first time, the biggest peak of the story is over It works well if you get a finished product right off the bat instead of drip feeding your typical weg v0.001 every month, which seems to be 99% of projects nowadays.In my case I cannot complain because I can jump from game to game and get my fill of maso NTS even if individual updates are very short. I feel for vanilla NTS enjoyers, but they are shit out of luck
>>8732527>why is it almost every NTS doujin the couple no longer has sex or they just give the dude a handjob?Surprised no masoshit has called you a Stag fag tourist. Sadly most NTS are like this,they are based around abusing and emasculating the Mc,NTR bait and switch and impeding their sex life when it should be used to enhance the couples sex life.
>>8732993Yeah I think the patreon model creates these bad incentives where devs feel they need to give people what they want right away (in this case the sex, which I was arguing should only come near the end of the story), and then keep giving it every week, and that just doesn't work well for a vanilla NTS story. You need to come with a plan and stick to it. I don't think it's all doom and gloom though. I think if you do commit to doing proper progression, even if it's slow and means the sex will take ages to come, I think people will recognize the value and support it, and be more healthy long term.I don't know if anyone's tried doing it, but there might also be room to be less linear with the development. Instead of developing chapter 1, then 2, then 3, etc, you could jump around in the story a bit, go back and flesh things that needed to be meatier, etc. Maybe release updates with temp art while the overall structure is getting ironed, and then go back later to give the finished treatment. In the few projects I've followed I've never seen devs go back and improve earlier parts of the game.
>>8733024In the few projects I've followed I've never seen devs go back and improve earlier parts of the game.I've seen several, but often these improvements turn into remakes and grind into a halt story progress
>>8733024>I think people will recognize the value and support Yeah no that's never happening in a patreon model. Feel free to make a game around that structure to see it for yourself. People hate waiting periods, and I can't blame them because the writing from the random indie author is pretty fucking bad to make these periods any interesting. The only rpgm/renpy/indie game with decent narrative I have played is Black souls. These games are primarily popular for their erotic content, not the writing.
Why is this thread always filled with paragraphs? Did the admins prevent anons from posting images in this thread?
new nyatorase update is out
>>8733388>admins Lmao they don't give a shit about some retarded plebbit blogposters.
/nts/, would you try something different?>it's ntrBelieve me, read it to the end.>source: n3182hm『Two months after the anniversary of your death』Good morning.It's hard to believe it’s already been two months since you disappeared from my life.Two weeks have passed since the forty-ninth-day memorial service ended and your ashes were interred in your family’s grave.When I wake up, I still instinctively get up without making a sound, as if not to wake you beside me. And then, seeing the wide bed, the lack of your warmth and presence next to me, I’m struck with an unbearable feeling of emptiness.My love, why did you have to die and leave me behind?The driver who fell asleep at the wheel crashed into a building and died on the spot, so I can’t even hate anyone. I don’t have the energy to comfort your mother, who is grieving just as much as I am. In fact, she’s the one who ends up encouraging me—the same woman who raised you all by herself after losing your father so early.Everything I do reminds me of you. I'm the one who takes out the trash you used to take out on your way to work, but the bags aren't as full as they were two months ago. There are times I’ve burst into tears just passing by the supermarket where we used to shop together on your days off. I even find myself taking care of your suits, even though you’ll never wear them again.I’m sorry for coming to your grave so many, many times. I know that if I keep on like this, you won’t be able to rest in peace. But even so, I can’t help but long for you.Still… I think I will try to live on. In a world without you, while remembering you. So please, just allow me to come and visit like this.My love, I am a weak woman. I could never, ever forget you in my entire life.My love, I am a strong woman. I will live my entire life without ever forgetting you.Please, I beg you, watch over me.Please, even in death, stay by my side.That is all I wish for.(1/x)
>>8733499(x/x)Too much text...For anyone who is interested.https://gofile.io/d/2tyDfD>catboxdown for me -_-
It's a shame that From Wife to Wench is becoming more stag with each new update. I had high expectations for the game, but it seems all Western NTS developers are the same.
>>8733499you were right. it's ntr
>>8733499>https://gofile.io/d/2tyDfDNot NTR since mofo is dead, but not NTS either. Just a grieving slut.
>>8733525Isn't stag just the english version of netorase
>>8733345>These games are primarily popular for their erotic content, not the writing.I think the two go together. NTS relies so much on context that writing is a big part of it. Without context, all of these games just look like a woman sleeping around. You have to spin up this whole thing about how she's being consensually lent, how the husband actually does get off on this, etc. I dunno man, I see a lot of unrealized potential here. If someone were to write something that's not shit, even if it's slow, I think people would be down.
>>8733525What do you mean? There’s a submissive route.
>>8733563cuckoldry is the western termstag is just another form of swinging
So in order to enjoy NTS, the cuck HAS to be to some degree humiliated, pathetic, or sexually deprived?
I now realize how difficult it is to write a netorase that doesn't follow the same formula as the rest at the beginning
>>8733642No.
>>8733642"I'm not a cuck, i'm not a cuck" screams the cuck.Don't care about the stag bullshit term that was invented if you don't own it you fit right among the pathetics.
are there any new interesting nts novels?
>>8733642Sure.
Yumi is BSS NTR bullshit now. It has never been more over
>>8733642If you're just gangbanging or enjoy seeing her act slutty why even bother applying the label of NTS to it? That's borderline vanilla and plenty acceptable in many other circles, like, there's no need for you to be /here/ in particular. All NTR subgenres are defined at least in part by a feeling of inadequacy.
>>8733738"if an artist make what if stories, it becomes cannon now"You're free to stop anytime instead of whining about something that ended a while ago.
>>8733738>hated by the majority of readers>remains the main bull for the entire series despite all the hate>gets his ass eaten out by Yumi>gets to cum inside Yumi>thinks he's finally conquered and won her over>she tells him to fuck off>all the Jin haters rejoice and brag about how he got btfo, and how Haru and Yumi were done with NTS and will only be a happy monogamous married couple from now on>even if the cuckolding continued it was heavily implied it would be senpai returning as the new bull>things are looking bleak for our boy Jin, literally rock bottom>time passes>eventually nt00 announces he's rebooting the series>kek, again?????>update comes out>go in expecting nothing>until suddenly>ENTER>Jin returns>now he's going to take Yumi from the beginning, even before senpai trained herThe comeback Jinfags are experiecing right now is unprecedented. I honestly thought it was over for him after the last handful of updates.I think it's too quick to say the NTS is ending unless NT00 himself said so. We might actually be getting a fabled defloration NTS scene.
>>8733765I swear to god these authors have a weird fucking attachment to their bulls. Hinako is also headed to the same direction with the MC thinking it's a mistake to allow Hinako to go crazy and become the town slut, and I have a feeling the solution he's gonna come up with is to ENTER the bull everyone hated as the exclusive bull from now on.
>>8733765Stevey said in a comment that it would be BSS, so it's probably going to be straight NTR unless that was just a prediction. I wouldn't even mind it since Haru is kind of a faggot and deserves it, plus it would be funny seeing Jin get a clean and uncorrupted Yumi of his own after all the hate he's gotten.Stevey are you here? Can you confirm whether your BSS comment was a prediction or did NT00 say this was going to be a BSS NTR story?
>>8733765>>8733766I think NT00 might actually be gay for Jin
>>8733787the NTS to homosexual pipeline is real
>>8733789I mean, the fact that people are self-identifying as 'Jinfags' is pretty telling. They're literally more interested in the bull than watching Yumi get fucked.
>>8733790>>8733789>>8733787This is pure homo projection. The reason why bulls get interest is because he's basically the only other character in the story. These hack writers can only write the MC as a pathetic crying bitch whose only purpose is to whine and cum. Of course the wife and bull are gonna get fans.
>>8733765Hate this ugly goober faggotYumi is a mid series anyway
>>8733795I don't know, I'm not the one literally calling myself a fag for Jin
>>8733758A gangbang is vanilla if everyone involved is single. If a husband throws his wife into a gangbang, that's an entirely different thing. The fuzzy toeing the line of monogamy in NTS is very particular and it only makes sense it's its own dedicated fetish.
I'd rather he update Mina-senpai, but Yumi's still hot. I'm entirely indifferent about Jin, but BSS *might* possibly be interesting
>>8733795I don't think he understand the vernacular on this site>>8733805jesus I knew this general was filled with tourists but I didn't think it was this bad
>>8733817Is it safe to say that Mina-senpai has basically been abandoned? When was the last time we actually got an update for her that actually pushed the story forward? I wonder how much of it is people asking for more Yumi and how much of it is that he just really enjoys drawing Yumi.
>>8733830August
Bulls should serve solely as living dildosThe second he's not boning down my waifu I want his existence to be void
>>8733844Bulls should also be the NTS cuckoldsChad sharing his wife/gf/sex friend/onahole/slave with the bros is kino
>>8733844You don't like NTS.
>>8733860what
Stark is just perfect for being a cuck, canonically has a small dick, brave and strong but still acting like a wimp, beside his gf has a body of the fertility goddess
>>8733901dem thighs
>>8732644Nah I think he was just fooling you ... there are a lot of guys with an NTR fetish that put themselves in the cuck seat and want those outcomes.NTS means there is still intimacy with the couple and it doesn't make sense if they replace sex with a hand job and call it a day. I can understand a one time situation of this and then it leads up to them eventually being intimate but almost every NTS doujin I have read (with a couple exceptions), the wifes give the guy and handjob and you never see them being intimate ever again, it just turns into a abuse session to the husband instead of egging him on to make her his again.
https://nhentai.net/g/475539/Is the best middle ground between NTR -> NTS I have read so far. They eventually talk it out and reason with each other and they still have sex using her cheating records to spice up their sex life.This is how any NTS should end ... even if it goes Full NTR during its journey, the end should always wrap up nicely to an intimate ending for the couple to be a proper NTS. At least that is what I think.
>>8733929Does this end NTS? I have a vague memory of reading it some time back and don't remember being netorase
>>8733901>Stark gets to eat Fern's creampied pussy every dayHe's so lucky, I wish I was him...
>>8733776Lol I love it when people start posting more Nt00/Yumi at the end of the month.So this isn't my own speculation as Nt00 has said himself the new story is BSS his patreon/fantia. That said, from talking with him, it technically may not be NTR only because Yumi would have to be Haru's gf first for that to happen. But with BSS it's safe to assume we'll basically see Haru keep losing to Jin in terms of significant events with Yumi. No confirmation it'll be NTR though, as no one knows who Yumi will get with in the end. But yeah Jin-lovers are gonna be winning for the next couple months. Also sadly we will not get chapter 3 next month because NT00 still has a bit of hand neuropathy and he is moving this month, so the next time would be end of November.
>>8733988Kinda sad the the alternative story is going into that direction. If it is that easy for Jin (or anyone else for that matter) to steal Yumi from Haru (romantically even), then it would really devalue the bond we were shown between Haru and Yumi in the main story, both in the backstory at the party and later throughout the story. And their bond was the best best thing about nts in Yumi.I get that Yumi is popular, but I wish nt00 created new characters to try out this new setting. This just hurts the original story.
Isn't BSS the "I knew her first"-stuff? That's retarded and conceptually ruins it. It could work if it isn't Haru just passively watching from the side, but culminates in him and Yumi still pursuing a relationship, despite her fucking Jin. IDK. I guess the positive thing is that it's about Jin, not the "Senpai". Jin was much more interesting as a character, and frankly, sharing your hot girlfriend with your pathetic friend, who otherwise would have no business with her, is much hotter, than some generic chad fucking her.
I'm trying to think of a NTS story that I really like that DOESN'T feature the bull as the MC and...I'm drawing a blank, bros.Maybe I only like this fetish when it's from the perspective of the cool sex guy and not the cuck or femoid.
>>8733941It's pretty strongly coerced.>After an orgy, FMC decides she wants to show the cuck her "true self" for reasons>Drugs him, ties him up, fucks her favorite bull in front of him>Cuck gets a misery boner, as cucks often do>All the usual comments from her about how he's bigger and harder than when they have sex, and how despite cumming, he's hard again>Keep asking him to be okay with it>He cums again and they take that as the 'OK' for the new relationshipIt's more like a case of "Well, I really want to be with her and she says she wants to be with me, but she's intent on sleeping around because I can't satisfy her, so I guess I'll just be okay with it."Which, me personally, feels like the lowest form of NTS. The Cuck Ultimatium.>I'll date you, but I must be free to fuck whomever whenever. And hey, who knows, maybe you'll get aroused by the idea
>>8734173sounds like you like netori, not netorase>>8734177>The Cuck Ultimatium.I might yoink the term for myself
>>8733988Jin deserves it. It's an unpopular opinion but he's one of the more well done bulls we've had. I'm just glad senpai won't be in the picture this time around.>>8734161Completely disagree. The only reason she "fell in love" with Haru in the first place is because he helped her at the drinking party which Jin was the real savior of this time, so it actually makes narrative sense to be interested in him too now. We also know Jin is more pushy and willing to shoot his shot with her so him claiming her before Haru also makes sense. People also need to keep in mind that freshman Yumi was a retard who let senpai train her into the slut we know her as in the original story.
>>8734294Jin is a worm though as we have seen throughout the original story lol. The only thing he deserves is a boot up his ass. I don't get people's obsession with- he is absolutely disgusting as a character. But as some have already mentioned it might just be the homoerotic obsession of some ntr fans that forces them to fall in love even with the worst bulls.But nt00 seems to be obsessed with him too as Jin has plagued the story for so long already. So it only follows that he will continue sucking him off and give his golden boy a story where everything happens exactly as he wants without any effort. Netorase authors and their favorite bulls...
The only way nt00 can save this alternative story is if Haru still wins back Yumi despite every advantage Jin currently has. That would really reinforce the strength of their relationship and tie a neat bow on their story.But coping aside, it seems like the author is just tired of nts. Yumi is turning into ntr, Mina is abandoned. Might be time for nts fans to abandon the sinking ship
>>8734362mina is no big loss also it's kinda weird how obsessive some netorase "fans" can be when something doesn't exactly follow every single of their whims.If NT00 wants to explore something new with his work, he is free to do so, most of the "fans" here contribute to nothing except adding constant whining anyway.
>>8734361I just don't think you understood the story very much. Jin is a great bull for those who enjoy the more extreme side of NTS like Haru, and pairing him with Yumi was perfect because we as readers could tell she was always devoted to Haru and would never actually get stolen. The only real issue I had with him is NT00 going full retard in the raw sex penalty game and having Jin brag about stealing Yumi like a cartoon villain after cumming inside her before getting btfo by Yumi. Felt like he only did that to get the people bitching about him for the past 2 years to finally stfu.>more homo projectionCan a person not just appreciate a bull that pairs up well with the girl he's fucking? The only people obsessed with homo eroticism here are people like you constantly bringing it up. I know it's too much for a brainlet to understand but people can enjoy certain types of bulls more than others without being sexually attracted to them, not that you'll ever admit it.
>>8734378>explore something new >by re-booting the same series for the third timelmao
>>8734385We get it, you're more attracted to the bull than the girl you don't have to keep reiterating it.
something new with his work my dear cherry picker feigning to not read the full sentence.
>>8734385I can readily admit that I don't like the kind of netorase nt00 was peddling by the end of the og story.I prefer bulls to be either silent dildos or amicable non-antagonistic guys just looking for fun. And the more of them are in the story - the better. Nts should be all about the girl - the less focus is on a particular bull the better. That goes for your comment about favorite bulls. That's why this obsession with certain bulls is so funny to me. It kinda reminds about guys discussing male pornstars in hetero porn - that is gay as fuck desu. But that doesn't discredit my opinion on Jin - every time he opened his mouth lessened my enjoyment of the story. The kind of bullshit he was spewing and Yumi just letting him do it was one of the worst things about the story. But the worse thing is that he is somehow supposed to be Harus friend and yet he always chose to stick the knife in his back. And Haru (and the author through him) was just letting him do whatever without any effort or consequences. His behavior at the end of the story is just the cherry on top - what was blud even thinking there lmao.
>>8734407>by the end of the og storyIt was maso NTS for its entire run.>obsession with certain bullsHe was the only real bull in the story, that's not obsession you illiterate fuckwit.>brings up male porn stars out of nowhere when the discussion is about characterizationMore gay projection, nice.>But that doesn't discredit my opinion on JinIt does because your opinion is based on "it's bad because I don't like it." You literally can't acknowledge there is merit to his character because you're too insecure about being labeled a homo. This isn't really surprising tho given how insecure you human dildo faggots tend to be in general.>supposed to be Harus friendAgreed. If the author toned down Jin's aggressiveness, gave him and haru some bro moments, and kept him as a sex pest who was just enjoying the opportunity to fuck Yumi.
>>8734551My guy why are you so defensive? I never implied that being gay for bulls is somehow bad. You do you. If it floats your boat go for it king. It is just not my thing you know.On a more serious note, this discussion seems to be a pointless endeavour. Our taste in netorase seem to be way too different. I just value the couple and their relationship way over the bull. Not matter what kind of interesting conflict they might bring to the story I can't stand annoying gary stu pricks in that role. And Jin is the epitome of that. Jun is a bull too btw if you somehow forgot, but he is a lot less annoying.
>>8734613>more passive aggressive deflectionYawn.>On a more serious note, this discussion seems to be a pointless endeavour.Because you're an illiterate retard that hasn't even read the story. I accept your concession tho lmao.
>>8734652Cool story bro. But you do you. Mental ilness can be cured, it is not too late for you
>>8734680and the melty continues
>What it should be>Man or Women wants to share their significate other with another for fun and kink>what everyone says it has to be>lol cuck humiliation haha NTR mindbreakWhy does it gotta be like this?
>>8734727>Why does it gotta be like this?It's not.
https://files.catbox.moe/6so7g3.movDay 2 of locktober, i hope i could last longer this year since my girl would be my keyholder. Not gonna lie my favorite double tag combo is NTS + chastity cage. The aspect of denial in netorase is just peak kino shit
>>8734727It's only like that because you got mindbroken by some masocucks
>>8733765one thing i've noticed is a lot of nts creators want the bulls to actually be romantic partners rather than just sex friends, several anons (or maybe it's the same guy) also want their girlfriends to do relationship stuff with the bull besides sex. but that isn't even netorase it's just shitty polyamory (which is already retarded on it's own). jin has overstayed his welcome and i'm tired of seeing that smug faggot
>>8735062This. I think the girl enjoying the physical aspects of sex with the bull and some light teasing of the cuck, while still actually acting like a girlfriend/wife of the cuck and enjoying the emotional connection of sex with him is ideal.If the girl starts catching feelings for the bull or doing non-sex stuff with the bull, that just throws the dynamic off for me. Like, if she starts genuinely enjoying the bull's company, why bother entertaining the cuck's fetish?
>>8735062>>8735070>relationship stuff with the bull besides sex.this is still NTS if it's being done in service of the cuck, if they are off doing romantic shit together with no intention of using it as fuel for the cuck's NTS fetish then it is polyamorywords have meaning
>>8735062>>8735070agreed>>8735098this is the case of 'technically it's nts' but in practice it's thinly veiled beginning of ntr
>>8733765>people were happy about them stopping the NTSI never understood why people were so happy about that ending. As an NTS enjoyer I want the couple to keep doing it. The entire appeal of the fetish is that they stay in love while involving other guys in their sex life.
>>8735123Maybe they thought he'll move on to another series
>>8735113>in practice it's thinly veiled beginning of ntrThe problem is many people headcanon the conclusion of certain situations in their head even if it's never shown in the story. If it's never explicitly mentioned by the author in an afterword or in a comment in the page then people's headcanon of "and then the bull stole her for real" is basically the same as the headcanon of "and then the bull cohabitated with the girl but she stayed emotionally loyal to the cuck"
>>8735062>>8735070>>8735113>more "I'm insecure and don't like it, so it's NTR" autism
>>8735129the opposite is true too, many blue archive and love live stuff get tagged NTS simply because someone in their head think the commander or the manager is the canon love interest despite not appearing or even being mentioned once in the given work.
For the AI sloppers out there how do you put the cuck in the image? Like example an image of Marin fucking the bull while Gojo watches, how do you prompt that?
Hello there. You might know me as that one anon who said he was going to make a netorase vn. Do you remember me? No? Anyway, I am making a Netorase VN with a certain emphasis on roleplay and complex dynamics. I would like very much if you guys could check it out when it comes out! I am hard at writing to bring you guys a demo as soon as possible. Feel free to ask me anything about the game!
>>8735260what kind of bull(s) will it have?
>>8735304Excellent question! This story that I'm aiming to tell has sci-fi elements, so the bull won't be a normal person, most of the bulls will be altered in some way. Like the girl in the banner. Kara. I can't reveal everything but I am to make the story believable enough even though it has those more "fantastical" elements.
>>8735345believable... sci-fi sounds already contradictory, sounds like just one of this inn game where the wife will simply have all the bot and extraterrestrial run over her body instead of dwarf and retarded elves, very not exciting.
>>8735361Sci-fi, as in fiction, could be anything, doesn't have to necessarily be aliens and starships. Wait and play it, perhaps you will like it!
>>8735361I can't even tell what you're complaining about. A setting using the races it's commonly associated with?
*splurt*
Jane Doe NTS:>https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/135775401
>>8735513Is that the commission you did couple months ago anon?
>>8735513Holy shit, this right here is the best position I've ever seen in NTS. double vaginal with the bull while it looks like he's fucking you too.
>>8735513nice
Do you ever stop getting shameful feelings?
>>8735062I want to a throuple with NTS elements
>>8730371>Would you support my patreon?No, not because AI usage even, it's just that i don't have any expectations from netorase wegs anymore.I'll still try your game, though.
>>8735529Need more of these
>>8735687>>8735529agp kino
>>8735688>agpI don't know what that is
>>8735715medical term for troonsThey're saying you're a tranny because you want to pretend you're the one getting fucked
>>8733525the mc can become a fucking sissy bro, what are you on about kek.
>>8732527>If NTS is done for the sake of stimulating the sex life of the couplemost of the time it starts because the husband is a masochist cuckold with a ntr fetish.
>>8735748So are a lot of anons but they probably still want to have sex in reality
>>8735725What an insane thing for someone to say out of nowhere
>>8734177I see you didn't even read the end of it as there is an entire last chapter with their epilogue in the same link I posted ... they decided to get married, cuck doesn't just get off on the videos they have sex to them ... the last chapter is literally the cuck having both anal and regular sex with her while her cheating video plays in the background.
>>8734203The dude didn't read the epilogue which shows them still as a couple, even if forced they have sex like a couple does to the videos she brings home. She doesn't send them to him, she comes home with it, plays it on the TV, gives the cuck the full workup with a BJ, anal and riding him, while his jizz drops out her ass.
>>8735529Speaking of NTS poses, what do you guys think is one of the most erotic poses possible, featuring the wife, cuck, and bull, that’s rarely, if ever, drawn?
>>8736083None of what I said isn't true, though. She basically browbeats him into it, and while he might have either gotten a taste for it over the years or maybe it was always his inclination subconciously, he had to accept her terms or probably get dumped.I'm not arguing that it's not NTS, or a happy ending, or that that style of NTR>NTS setup is bad. If that's what you like, that's what you like.I just always look at stories where the heroine is the one pushing for the NTS fetish with more scrutiny vs the guy since she gets so much more out of it. Good sex and having a partner who cares.
Did somebody wrote better version of this NTS with better sex scene?
>>8736256>oh finally some nice-looking NTS fap meat>it's some retarded isekaiIt's so tiresome
>>8736084Don't get me wrong, I've read it a couple of times and find it very hot. I guess this is the case where NTR->NTS or just any NTS where the girl is the one initiating always feels, I dunno, suspicious, off? I'll admit that's likely my unfounded paranoia speaking.
I really enjoy scenes where the cuck is getting nursed like a baby while the wife lovingly tells him how she cheated on him
>>8731565Yo this girl is cuteWhat's your setup and model?
>>8736225Missionary while handholding hubby is way too uncommon relative to how hot it is.Perhaps you wouldn't call this a pose per se, but cowgirl while looking aside at the husband is very rare too. Usually either she's fucking the bull alone or is completely ignoring the husband, and that's such untapped heat. I was searching through my doujins and pics just now and couldn't find any. Had to dig through some scuffed COM3D2 pics I made.Husband and wife eye contact and touching during NTS is such an untapped area in general, even though it's my favorite.
>>8733988I'm curious about what your convos with Nt00 are like. Has he ever been curious about how certain plot developments were received among his non-native readership? Have you ever explained the comically large divide among English readers between NTS purists and general NTR/NTS fans to him?
>>8735147I only use local AI models so I am not sure if it is easier to do with NovelAI but I don't think you can do it with prompting alone. I tried making the image you described by inpainting everything step-by-step.1. Generate an image of an empty bed.2. Inpaint Marin having sex with a black guy on top of the bed.3. Outpaint the image to the right so that it has enough room for Gojo to fit in.4. Inpaint Gojo kneeling in front of the bed.I had a lof of trouble trying to get Gojo kneeling in front of the bed but I may be doing this the wrong way.
>>8735147>>8736598It started with this image. But it was so annoying to add all those elements that I feel like there must be some other way or that I am missing something.
>>8736591>his non-native readership? Have you ever explained the comically large divide among English readers between NTS purists and general NTR/NTS fans to him?I don't think he gives a damn to freeloaders.
>>8736225Kissing while getting fuck from behind
>>8736744
>>8736761This is one of the hottest animations. Kissing is so fucking hot in nts
>>8736225holding/supporting her on your lap/knees while she's getting fucked
>>8735260Could you explain what you mean with roleplay and complex dynamics? Will there be a lot of dialogue options that will change the outcome of the story?
>>8736225Wife/Girlfriend Pegging the cuck (preferably somewhat feminised) while getting railed by the bull. Not sure why, but it's less common than I'd hope.
>>8737133>Not sure why, but it's less common than I'd hope.because you're a mentally ill faggot that enjoys taking it up the ass
>>8737163>getting fucked by a woman is gay
>>8737133Pegging is hot as fuck. Having your wife really put in the effort to give you the most mind breaking orgasm ever right after she just got fucked the same way. Love that shit.
Know something really hot?Kuudere netorase
>>8737298It's good if she's emotionless and cold only with the cuck and becomes an insatiable nympho with the bull.
>>8737329Extremely incorrect opinion but you do you
>>8737133Excellent taste. Combines well with chastity, too.
>>8737329based and true, even better if the reason is because she doesn't want to embarrass herself by looking like a slut in front of him
>>8736761It's extra hot because she's getting fucked in the ass and could chose to let her hubby use her pussy but instead she decides to let him out hanging and rubbing against her tummy.
>>8737344The point of NTS is you bring someone else to fill in the gaps for your own inadequacies. Sexual inadequacy being fulfilled by the bull is the default, but other areas are essentially unexplored or ignored. It's been mentioned in previous threads a few times but the bull being a better romantic partner like going on dates and making her feel loved needs to happen more often.
>>8737410>The point of NTS is you bring someone else to fill in the gaps for your own inadequaciesNo.
>>8737414Yes
>>8737410Don't relate. For me the point is the third person view of her doing sexual things with someone else that's not the husband, as a kinky service to him.
>>8737068Unfortunately I cannot reveal much but try to imagine for a second that you as the husband has to non-lethally fight for your wife? Would you be able to do it? Or would you be be locked into watching the winner take all? This is what I mean by roleplay and complex dynamics. And of course, some decisions will affect the story, but the most important aspect is the variety of plays. But be happy anon! Production already started and it's going to be fast since I already wrote many of the story points even before starting the game.
>>8737410Extremely far removed from why I enjoy NTS. Oh wait you must be the masoshit.
>>8737410>the bull being a better romantic partner like going on dates and making her feel loved needs to happen more often.could not disagree more. she should only be romantic with the cuck/mc, even if the bull fucks her better
>>8737410I'm a huge masocuck and even I don't totally agree with this. Even if it comes with a generous proportion of bullying, I still want love and attention. If she's gonna go ahead and have an enjoyable date with the bull, I'd hope she at least comes back and enjoys teasing me over it instead of growing genuinely disappointed with me.
>>8737527I'm in the same boat as you. Dates with the bull should be treated as an extension of NTS or even as an escalation towards NTS (e.g., girl wants to go on a date with the bull before deciding if she's going to fuck him), but it should not be treated as a replacement for affection with the cuck.
>>8731045>>8731046>have a beautiful, busty, unconditionally loyal and loving wife to whom you're the only man in the world>have her fuck and be impregnated by other men against her willExplain this. Is it psychological torture? Is it like the soijak copypasta where soijak gets unreasonably angry when he discovers his wife gave birth to his child rather than her boyfriend's child?
I'll ask one more time just to be sure so I don't miscategorize . I wrote a story involving two couples. One heterosexual and one a bisexual female pair. The wife in the hetro couple gets off on her husband having sex with other women and has a deep desire to see her husband fall in love with another women. The top in the bisexual couple wants to see her girlfriends reaction to having a lovey-dovey date ending with "love filled" sex at the end of the night with a man. If I am to understand this correctly. My story is NOT NTS, correct?
>>8737587Both fit. But in the hetero couple, the woman wanting her man to not just fuck but fall in love with someone else, that's more polyamory.
>>8737592>that's more polyamory.Is it? The wife just wants to experience the suffering of seeing her husband stolen away, she'd kill herself if he actually left, likely. I haven't thought that far yet. She is just deeply insecure and masochistic.
>>8737587There's usually not a clear and precise label for these off the wall setups you guys come up with in here.>wife in the hetro couple gets off on her husband having sex with other womenSounds like NTS.>and has a deep desire to see her husband fall in love with another womenNow it sounds like NTR if she wants him to fall out of love with her after falling in love with the other girl.>top in the bisexual couple wants to see her girlfriends reaction to having a lovey-dovey date ending with "love filled" sex at the end of the night with a manDepends on what her girlfriend wants. If the gf likes the idea then it's NTS. If she's doing it without her gf's consent then it's cheating. If she knows her gf will like it but wants to surprise her then it's a mix of NTS and cheating.>>8737603Sounds like hardcore maso NTS if she wants him to stay monogamous after the play ends and not actually fall in love with the other girl.
>>8737620>Sounds like hardcore maso NTSYes, from her point of view, it's like doing something really fucking dumb that could be fun, an intrusive thought, "what if I like it", "what if he's happier", "I deserve it." As for the bi couple, the top cleared everything with her girlfriend, but she has no idea how she will really react, just wants to see it because she is a bit fucked in the head too. I'll keep it labeled as NTS for now. Husband character just goes along with whatever she comes up with out of love and guilt for severely bullying her their entire school life.
>>8736248I get what you are saying but let's look at this again.She was taken advantage of and then fell into all of it (the usual troupe), she didn't want to leave the BF for it but didn't want to stop because he couldn't get her off. So she essentially forced him into it. That much I understand your point and agree that he didn't want it and was forced into it.But you know what happens after that that almost every NTS doesn't have? The girl actually wanted to have sex with her partner, not a handjob, not pity sex, not berating the BF, she genuinely has sex with him encouraging the NTR fetish he was forced to have and even if he is smaller than the other guys she even compliments him on his size when they have anal and still pushes to have more sex with him after. Its very clear that what started as defense to keep their relationship from falling apart turned into actions to spice up their sex life.A lot of the times when I see the guy coax the girl or even other stories, the couple no longer has sex or they just give a handjob/BJ and most of the time the GF is not satisfied or is more annoyed by doing it with the guy. In this one she actively wants to have sex with him and acknowledges that she is responsible for messing up him up with this fetish and that is why she reaffirms how much she loves him by having sex with him and taking care of his needs; which she also enjoys doing.Again your points are valid but I stand by this one at least carrying what NTS doujin should end with.
>>8737329Nice try ... that is just an NTR ending waiting to happen.I would understand if she is loves the gentle sex with her partner but has problems making expressions, whereas with the bull she always makes them and doesn't want the partner to see to discourage him.But acting cold to the partner is just NTR waiting to happen.
>>8737414I can see what they trying to say but the point of NTS is to spice up the sex life but giving the husband/BF the drive to "take his girl back" ... ie. he becomes more aggressive in bed because she doesn't want to lose to the bull or his girl and the girl gets excited by see her partner desperately push past his limits to keep her where as with the bull that just uses her and leaves. She feels more treasured by her partner and loves that he is trying to improve in bed for her and her only.
>>8737410Bruh that is the make up for NTR or Netori ... even more so if the Bull is more romantic than the cuck. So the Bull is more romantic then what is the point of the girl's relationship to the cuck?Don't let the NTR guys fool you into this ideology ... NTS as far as the bull is concerned is only for Sex and nothing more, the point of her having sex with the bull is purely to gaslight the cuck into performing better in bed. When the cuck goes the extra mile and actively becomes desperate for her; that is when she feels fulfilled emotionally for the rest of her days until the next session with the bull. The bull part is only for the sex section that the cuck isn't equipped for, and the guilt from not satisfying her is what drives the cuck to perform while the cuck's effort to perform more for her absolves her guilt towards the cuck.Its a balance/
Why you retards gotta make everything complicated and shit. Man or Women wants to see their SO fuck another person. That is all there is to it.
>>8737529dates with the bull should not be a thing unless its just a quick means to lead to sex ... no romance what so ever. I think what would make those situations better is for clear boundaries to be set, like the bull always wearing a condom or no kissing (BS btw but whatever) which she reserves only for the cuck and actively makes sure the cuck follows through. Like with the no condom thing, the bull wrecks her in bed for hours going through boxes of condoms and she teases the cuck about how he can't man up but she has raw sex with him and gaslights him to cum multiple times in her.
>>8737587It depends on the end result ... does the respective couples still have passinate or lovey dovey sex with each other after they have their desires fulfilled or does their sex life die or do the partners develop feelings with the people they are cheating with or passion between the couple becomes mundane?If the end result isn't the enrichment of the couples sex-life and relationship then its leading to NTR.
>>8737671LMAO ok so voyeurism then?There are clear categories and definitions to things for a reason.
>>8737673Ahh, So the Husband wife pair are still perfectly fine with their relationship, but I have the girlfriend breakdown and get violent with the husband after the Top girlfriend tells the husband she loves him over and over again mid sex and the top promptly ends the session with the agreed upon gesture, ringing a bell bracelet, when she sees her girlfriend crying..Here is the story, I'm in the middle of talking with an editor and someone to go though and clean up my writing before I ship it off. https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/view/fGNxsemQgwl1KBr+hyvqr7b73dW3tFhIRIRwPu9ONQk/
>>8737660>it's NTR waiting to happen because my headcanon said so!You people need to drop this fetish and unironically touch grass. Your insecurity constantly letting irl logic infect the fictional media you consume isn't healthy.
>>8737672>or no kissing (BS btw but whatever)What do you mean by calling it bullshit here? Not trying to imply anything btw, just wondering what you meant.
any content which focuses on [spoiler]cum cleaning[/spoiler]
>>8737679I read it. A girl taking a man to all her girlfriends favorite spots, kissing him, telling him she loves him all day in front of her girlfriend and then getting a tattoo to commemorate the day is excessively cruel. Even without the sex session where she tells her girlfriend she's not satisfied with her. It just feels mean.
>>8737660>it's NTR because of my own schizo headcanonjust invent a new headcanon?? you're literally only angry because your imagination is getting the better of you, that has to be unhealthy
>>8737587It depends on whose POV the story is told from. If it's from the guy's perspective, it's not netorase, it's some kind of netori. If it's from the wife's perspective, it's reverse netorase, what's called cuckqueaning in English. If it's from the lesbian top's perspective, then it's plain netorase.
>>8737410>The point of NTS is you bring someone else to fill in the gaps for your own inadequacies.Wrong, dipshit. The point of NTS is to watch your wife enjoy herself and get fired up with jealousy so you can reclaim her afterwards. Get that maso shit over to the NTR thread. That said, there is nothing wrong with the wife going on dates with the bull, just make it clear that it's about her having fun and getting to know the guy before deciding whether to fuck him.
Latest Nyatorase update was midFraid bro, like all NTS devs, lost the sauce after the first handful of sex scenes.
>>8737765That game has two huge problems.First is going too fast. There is nowhere left to escalate after Kat has already given out her anal virginity and is getting gangbanged by orcs. At least until the pregnancy ending.Second is lack of choice. I can't opt out of specific bulls I dislike. This is a huge problem for NTS, where the slightest misstep can turn a scene into a turnoff. I can't look at Kat the same after she fucked a nigger.
Cum cleanup is not as common as I’d like it to be, and in most rl cuck videos when it does happen, the guy is reluctant to eat it and it looks like he’s having an awful time. I don’t get it. Are there many straight men into the NTS fetish? I’m a bi sub and love the femdom and gay aspects of it. That’s why I accept it wholeheartedly. My gf gets a superior fuck and my belly gets full of warm bull cum, everyone happy.
>>8737771Only your first point makes sense. The 2nd point is non-issue for most people as they can just opt-out by simply skipping those parts.
>>8737470Is the fight aspect a gameplay mechanic or only part of the story? It also doesn't really sound like NTS to me because having to watch your wife get fucked after you lost in a fight is a NTR setup. Don't get me wrong, I don't care about some silly definitions or how it needs to follow these strict rules to be NTS. I just want to understand it better.Also are you using NovelAI for the AI generated images? Just want to know what other people are using because it seems like no one uses any local models.
>>8737790I imagine most people here are not ready for the conversation that NTS is gay/bi-adjacent by virtue of being almost always MMF threesomes unless you exclusively have reporting.
>>8737849The fight part just has to do with the story and the fight itself would be a consensual thing. It's an example but not everything there is. This is what I want to offer people in the community, different scenarios where wife sharing and candaulism appear. It's not just bull fucking the wife in a sterile medical ambient. It's about the thrill that I myself felt when I was introduced to this years ago.The AI is local but I mean "local". Don't worry though.
>>8738057I didn't know that word, candaulism. Interesting, it's like that beginning phase of the NTS exhitionism part, where you get off on the idea of your wife being sexy in public and feeling other men sexually desire her.I've been thinking a lot about NTS and I have such conflicting feelings about it. The way I see it, the main drive for me is a desire for validation (from both parties but mainly the guy). He's insecure and wants his wife to prove to him that he's the only man for her, that her love for him is unshakeable. And somehow that is accomplished through wanting to see her doing sexual things with other men. The thing that would typically signal the ultimate betrayal and the end of a relationship here is done as a test of faith. She's gonna do this with other men not because she wants to or has any dissatisfactions with him, but as a service to him, and she's gonna prove that she still loves him all the same and has no interest or need for anyone else. He gets the kinky sexual satisfaction of seeing this fantasy happen and her romantic validation, and she gets sexual satisfaction from the kinky sex with others and her jealous hubby, as well as the emotional validation that what she did made him happy. That's where my head lies on the fetish, I think.But it's such a finicky act in the specifics. Like, if I get the slightest whiff that she is romantically interested in other men, or that someone else is trying to get in the way of the relationship, the sexiness of the story quickly turns into that NTR dread. It can turn on a dime and become really uncomfortable, and it's so difficult to straddle the line perfectly for me. It feels like it has to be done very gradually, with lots of communication bridging the progression, and the reinforcing of the couple's feelings toward each other is paramount.I know maso people probably don't relate to this blogpost, but perhaps some others do, so there's my unprompted yap.
AV Director Life is on Steam, dlsite at RJ01325945Orc Massage was mentioned here before due to the feature where the girl looks at the camera while getting fucked. This game is about recording sex scenes. At first you're the only available actor but you can unlock other men to fuck the JAV actress you're managing. The game does allow you to develop some kind of relationship with the main heroine, so I would say this counts as NTS.
>>8738239>Orc Massage was mentioned here before due to the feature where the girl looks at the camera while getting fuckedThat was me and I loved that feature. I will check this one out, thanks.
>>8737682>>8737758LMAO anyways, if you love being a cuck and self-insert yourself as such with those stories sure go ahead. When a story goes a route that almost always leads to NTR, but you keep trying to come up with reasons why it factually does ... that's what most people call denial or at least delusion.
>>8737762Ngl you had me in the first one but now you kind of contradicting yourself a bit ...As suppose as long as there is no attachment to the bull outside of sex but the problem is the dates lead to an attachement outside of sex. Seen plenty NTR stories that go that route ... where the girl starts to associate the bull with feelings other than sex.
>>8737790>>8737893Seeing your girl have sex with someone else, getting jealous and wanting to make her yours again DOES NOT EQUAL thinking of or trying to do cum cleanup of another dudes spunk.That's not NTS that's just Yaoi or Gay as F*ck ... stop trying to project what you want to do.
>>8738239I remember playing it before and not liking it because of how grindy, unfun and repetitive everything else was.
>>8738367is it just me or is all of laliberte works boring and repetitive?Every work I have read has the same ending, same brain dead logic from the cuck or that they are all too similar even if they're all NTR works. It comes off as lazy ... the artwork is godly though
>>8738473it's all boring if it's not really your stuff, like seeing for the xth times the wife masturbating her husband in front of a video of her getting railed up by a third party.
>>8738457>calling others delusional while still inventing headcanon to get pissy atlol
>>8738239Damn, machine translated. It's wild that you're allowed to sell this on steam and claim it's English translated.
>>8738473I just don't like them because they almost all end too maso for me. I've no interest in caging, etc. They get a bit close to pussyfree ATM, which IMO is just regular NTR
and once more it's another thin veiled preference thread, I'm not too sure what you guys hope to achieve by flapping your lips about it
>>8738648Stop yapping and post fapmaterial
>>8738057Sounds interesting. Might check it out when it comes out. And I was just wondering about the AI part because I feel like everyone uses NovelAI and no one uses local models.
>>8736761SAUCE
>>8737587Hello /NTS/ I'm the poster that wrote an erotic story featuring an artist popular OCs, she apparently enjoyed it. This has motivated me to improve my writing skills.
>>8738820Ellen Joe Netorase by Kayyeon/Kayyye
>>8738900Based, excellent work anon. Talking with an artist about how you used her OCs to get fucked a certain way must be an interesting feeling.
>>8738900What artist and OC?
>>8739047I feel like I should have went a little harder considering her reaction to it, I had the bottom breakdown and start crying mid session after her girlfriend told the bull she loved him over and over mid climax. Before that she was pretty into it.>>8739062Pic related
177 posts, and I missed nothing important. This thread is utter dogshit.
Might as well ask since we're on page 10. Why does it bother you guys when the cuck is treated badly if the main appeal is the girl cheating? Why is he even part of the enjoyment of the story?
>>8739223Fuck off then retarded cuck
>>8739249nts is a about both parties getting enjoyment. Once you start doing the whole penis shaming, chastity, humiliation shit, it dips into NTR. It's bad enough the default partner now is just a nigger as opposed to anything else. Which adds another humiliation aspect to it as well.
>>8739249Treated badly is subjective. Playful teasing and humiliation are hot to some, turn off to others. If you mean treating the cuck badly at the Kaya level, then yes, most healthy NtsGODS here agree that shit goes too far and is NTR.
>>8739257The cuck can derive pleasure from those things but you lack too few braincells so no point in explaining.
>>8739260Yes, how ever, nearly all NTS content now is "lol your such a loser with a tiny dick and you can never please meyou get literally nothing out of this lol">>8739259Kaya is pretty blatantly evil, she takes money from her slave then tells him to fuck off and she has outright stated she wants to permanently damage her slaves reproductive organs. She even admits to outright brainwashing her slave.
>>8739249Mainly insecurity. They are literally incapable of seperating fiction from reality, so to them it's literally impossible for a masochistic couple to enjoy masochistic play while still being 100% devoted to each other.That, or they're retards who don't actually know what something "becoming NTR" actually means.
>>8739335>>8739335
>>8738197I think I understand and agree with you. I am always looking for NTS where the female character stays loyal. The best NTS stories for me is where the female character stays loyal and like you said a bit of NTR bait does make the stories a bit dreadful but also sometimes exciting. NTR dread can also be avoided or cleared by showing us the female character POV, where it shows she is still in love with her husband or boyfriend. That is why I hold Anri from the vn Gyaruzuma Anri no Netorase Play in high regard. It eventually shows her POV she is doing this for the MC and no matter what choices you make she stay 100% loyal. Are there more female characters like Anri that stays loyal like her? Because right now for me she is one of the best NTS female character, if not the best out there.
>>8739223that's literally every nts thread
