In retrospect, how good was his presidency?
>>165123031. balanced budget2. HIV declared a pandemic, and a link between HIV and AIDS formally established (I'm old enough to remember when many denied both of these for different reasons)3. electric cars by 20104. no new wars, peace dividend, strong EU5. NAFTA/best friends club with mexico and canadaAnd then completely ruined by Florida's ballot machines fucking up, CNN reporting Bush as the winner when he wasn't, Gore conceding early, Bush winning the recount because so many ballots had to be thrown away, and then 9/11. We were denied the Gore Presidency we deserved.
>>16512313Though, I'll give Bush credit in that he forced Africa to take HIV-AIDS seriously with our military assistance to French forces deployed there in the GWOT. Which is now being dismantled by russian and chinese supported regimes, but that's their problem.
>>16512313HIV is only a pandemic among junkies and ass munchers. The fact you care about it tells a lot.
>>16512317Wrong. At the time, the lack of suitable definitions and awareness of it meant HIV was infecting hospitals through cross-contamination. This was how Issac Asimov was killed. Bush at least lifted the moratorium on discussing it, but Clinton treated it like the national emergency it was. There was a period of time where every major hospital in California could not guarantee their patients would not get infected by HIV through contaminated needles, bedpans, or blood transfusions. Also, I know you're a zoomer because gays denied how HIV was directly linked to AIDS and was the same disease. They insisted they were different illnesses and cures for (at least) HIV and also AIDS existed. Most of these people didn't make it to 2000, many more died before 2005. One such surviving example:https://aliveandwell.org/
>>16512313>no new warsExcept for that Balkans thing >strong EUWhat does that have to do with the US president >electric cars by 2010It's 2024, you think electric cars are anywhere as good as fuel-run ones yet?
>>16512335This is what you get for letting junkies and ass munchers run rampant in your state...
>>16512303Waco. Ruby Ridge. Nuff said.
>>16512316Latest nafo cope just dropped.
>>16512303Kind of shit because he caused the 2007 crash.
>>16512316Yeah Africa is just going to die of aids and shit without sucking the teat of the US. Who believes this crap lmao
>>16512303Probably the best president since Roosevelt. >>16512423Wasn’t it Bush’s tax cuts that did that?
>>16512360>Except for that Balkans thingNot our problem + not our fault.>What does that have to do with the US presidentretard. not even worth answering this one just to spoon-feed you 80 years of US policy.>It's 2024, you think electric cars are anywhere as good as fuel-run ones yet?I had one for a while. The fuel economy is amazing.>>16512423>>16512460The real estate bubble began under him. Bush just happened to be in office when it finally popped.
>>16512460>Bush tax cutsNo
>>16512479>I had an electric carPost bussy.
>>16512303He grew american economy and wasnt a total disgrace for his country even if his secretary give him head. This was the largest scandal ever but now we have clown world 24/7 from twatter or X.
>>16512479>not our faultkek
>>16512479What are you implying here? That the Marshall Plan never ended?
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>>16512371Yeah that hardline approach saved Russia and Africa...
>>16512303his great scandal was a blowjob, wish we had more like him.
>>16512313Gore was unbelievably weak willed. Do you not remember when he got heavily BTFO by a gay musician in Senate hearings?
>>16512752AIDS will just bounce back now that Blue states are so bent on decriminalising intentional or reckless transmission
>>16512809the fact that republicans kept pushing for it really felt like they didnt have anything else to attack him on >"you did le blowjob!!!!!!" >"okay but i ran with more fiscal prudency than a republican ever did" >"the blowjob though..."
>>16512303Repealing the glass-stegall act directly caused the 2008 financial crisis
>>16512885People are just more likely to pay attention to violent or sexual behaviour, irresponsible budget management and white collar crimes are boring
>>16512303He's Reagan, D-Edition. He's actually worse because he (and Tony Blair) legitimized neoliberalism as a bipartisan economic consensus instead of being a fringe right-wing thing and he had some "Only Nixon can go to China" moments even Reagan was unable to accomplish like totally gutting welfare and NAFTA.
>>16513378>He's actually worse because he (and Tony Blair) legitimized neoliberalism as a bipartisan economic consensus instead of being a fringe right-wing thingYour lefty heroes shouldn't have lost all those elections then.
>>16512489>even if his secretary give him head. This was the largest scandal ever but now we have clown world 24/7 from twatter or X.Knowing about shit like Epstein's island in the present, it's crazy to imagine people ever had enough trust in the ruling class to think a blowjob was a huge incident.
>>16512303>takes all credit for republican majority
>>16512335>I know you're a zoomer because gays denied how HIV was directly linked to AIDS and was the same diseaseSome* gays, don't overgeneralize, boomerfag. Though I will concede it was most of them for an idiotically long while.
>>16512372>Ruby RidgeThat was Bush Sr.
>>16515561ruby ridge was the canary in the coalmine. clinton's administration okaying the burning alive of women and children in some jewish feminism fervor was insane
>>16512317My mom had a blood transfusion after giving birth to my sister and had to get tested for AIDS because of it. There was a lot of contaminated blood.
Bush signed nafta and saved our asses during the crisis so he's good in my bookt. mexican
>>16515593bush caused the 2008 recession by giving brown people credit free mortgages
>>16515593>>16515628wrong bush, but also i confused him with clinton
>>16515638all nafta did was shift the already dying US auto industry to mexico
>>16515660correct, thanks for the jobs gringo :)
>>16515581True>>16515583A faggot made this post
>>16515662don't worry I'm sure all the profit is spent on a drug lord's villa
>>16515663No need to sign your post
>>16514790>native demographic collapse>mass immigration>white working class spiraling into povertyHow's neolib economics been working out for you?
>>16515593Nafta ruined what was left out our economic potential, it didn't save shit.
>>16515895It saved you $10,000 from your last car purchase.
Bill Clinton in the 90s wanted to hype the dream of ''everyone should get a home'', so bankers viewed this as goberment will do anything to back up the housing bonds, which is why those bonds were seen as never risky, then bankers pushed them on their institutional clients, to get fat fees from those, & the bubble was humongous. Then it exploded because GDP will never rise like a fucking bubble.>1998: Sec. Andrew Cuomo Defends Affirmative Action Mortgage Policyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TWOPDN5Va0Andrew Cuomo admits "affirmative action" determined housing policy during his tenure at HUD. New York's new governor defiantly explains how riskier loans with likely a higher default rate would be encouraged under the Clinton Administration. Of course the same policies were subsequently followed by the Bush Administration.So to avoid the housing collapse, we are supposed to believe the SEC or some other group of regulators were supposed to have had the spine to overrule the stated Clinton Administration official policy on mortgage finance at the time? These regulators presumably were also supposed to have stood up to Congress, mainstream economists, academia & the entire media establishment?>25 People to Blame for the Financial CrisisThe good intentions, bad managers & greed behind the meltdownhttp://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1877351,00.htmlPresident Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity & financial deregulation. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods.
>>16512303Overall pretty good. Not flawless but better than anyone who succeeded him and sure as shit better than Reagan, Carter, Nixon's second term and LBJ.
>>16512313Gore lost because he was a massive twat. As a candidate/person he had the exact same problems as Hillary: came off as a pompous, entitled, unlikable twat who expected to be coronated and didn't put effort in shoring up votes he thought were automatic. Also didn't let Bill campaign for him despite his massive popularity because he somehow thought people still cared about the Lewinsky stuff. Gore lost New Hampshire by like 1000 votes that Bill could have gotten him which would have been enough to win the election and made Florida not matter.
>>165123169/11 doesn't happen meaning Bush has no reason to listen to Rumsfeld and the like and he probably goes down as decent. No War on Terror to distract from domestic issues and maybe handles Katrina better. No WoT also possibly means not having to pander to protestant wahabbists to get votes in 2004. He handled 2008 reasonably well all things considered.
>>16512460It's a result of installing Greenspan as Fed chair which was a Reagan move.
>>16512885Gingrich had presidential ambitions going back to before Clinton's presidency. 1994 swelled his ego to massive proportions and he felt like exposing Clinton as a liar who cheated on his wife would ruin his image and make Newt look great. But it blew up in his face and he kept pressing it even as his own party was telling him to pull back and when it failed he was out of congress and his political career was dead.All of this is ironic of course because at the same time Newt was cheating on his wife with a younger and prettier staffer and had divorced his first wife who was suffering from cancer because he felt she was too ugly and his ambitions required a better looking wife.
>>16515895>not le hecking countryside that was already abandoned due to unsustainable ejido practices and our hecking toys factories that just ripped off american toys and used cheap plastic
Looking back 25 years, his most significant act (which wasn't appreciated at the time) was granting China MFN so they could enter the WTO. This opened up the firehose of cheap Chinese goods that we have today, it also made the US codependent on China and hollowed out American manufacturing capacity.
>>16516060a schizo made this post
>>16512752>defending anal Seed spillers
>>16516533Bob Graham just died and I was just thinking he'd have made a much better VP pick that Joe Lieberman which was a terrible decision to attempt to pander to right-wing "moral" voters. Graham was a Florida senator at the time and former governor.The only people who liked Lieberman are the same people in the No Labels thing he was heading up (which folded after he died).
>>16516576you're a fucking idiot
>>16516060I thought bush was the one that gave all the loans to browns
>>16516060Fannie Mae and Freddie mac are new deal era socialist money burners and caused the 2008 recession
>>16518501For whatever reason Bob Graham wasn’t even one of the people Gore seriously considered for VP. Gore’s shortlist is widely believed to have been >Lieberman>Evan Bayh>John Edwards>John Kerry>New Hampshire Governor Jeanne Shaheen (Shaheen publicly said she would decline the position if offered it)
>>16512303He helped continue the work Reagan and Bush did to deindustrialize America so he's a huge faggot
>>16518501RIP Bob Graham
>>16515628it's because speculative markets are retarded
>>16519307Hard to believe how WASPy the Democratic Party was just 20 years ago
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>>16515734All of those are caused by the civil rights regime vehemently defended by all stripes of the left
>>16515593NAFTA directly led to the devaluation of the peso in 1994 you retard.
>>16518501Gore was an idiot and thought he needed a more conservative and hawkish person to balance him. Another reason he failed to win.
>>16518657Go back to hawking Lifelock, Newt.
>>16519943That's all for the sake of neoliberalism. Neoliberals want humanity to be interchangeable economic units of production and culture and tradition and gender roles and racism all get in the way of that. Has any genuinely socialist or communist country been nearly as bad as any western neoliberal democracy in this regard?
>>16512460Explain to me how Bush Tax cuts did anything besides marginally improve tax revenues?
>>16512885It's like Democrats attacking Trump for January 6 >"okay but i ran with more fiscal prudency than Biden ever did">January 6 though
>>16521155Probably not but that seems more like a symptom their poverty and isolation more than anything. Karl Marx seemed to think capitalism's tendency to blow past anything that was an obstacle to its reproduction and expansion as the revolutionary thing about it.
>>16512303Mostly smoke and mirrors and more stabbing the country in the back. Same as it ever was when the money printer churns full tilt
>>16512885No, It was the fact that he Triggered a constitutional crisis by lying under oath. Which was a very moronic decision from his perspective, even if you think he shouldn't have been impeached. He could've simply remained silent, or answered it honestly since he was already reelected and everyone knew he did it anyway, or settled the Paula Jones lawsuit which have avoided the situation to begin with. And he eventually settled the lawsuit anyway. He basically gave a silver plate opportunity to his political opponents. And of course they exploited it as it was politics. who would have thought!
>>165123136. Subprime mortgages that have ruined the housing market for three generations and counting
>>16512317>Just let a blood disease run rampant in your country bro, what's the worse that could happen??
>>16512479>Not our problem + Not our faultThen why get involved in the first place?
>>16523308Fewer gay wedding cakes
>>16512313Oh my lord, still salty about that L. Bush derangement syndrome in 2024. Still Busb derangement syndrome looked tame compared to Trump derangement syndrome. Lmao ailing late republic decline period and you're worried about Al Gore.
>>16512303He was the last president who wasn't such a blatant partisan hack and that gave him two landslide victories. I'm honestly surprised that the Democrats haven't simply embraced law and order to win big in elections again.
>>16523678Democrats, in a sense, have embraced this again, by framing themselves as the "saner" of the two options, and its why they are about to win another election
>>16523396Bush has been an absolute disaster for the country, and Bush himself knows it, which is why all he does nowadays is painting mexican refugees.
>>16512313NAFTA was disasterous for the US
>>16512885Tell me you swallow what the news tells you without thinking without actually telling me.
>>16523698Easy to frame yourself as "good", "sane" and "principled" when you control the media
>>16512313He privatized the prisons and liberalized the banks. Also NAFTA. Clinton really fucked the US in hindsight.
>>16512303>>165123131. Federal Assault Weapons Ban2. Digital Millenium Copyright Act3. Destroyed welfare programs4. Waco/Ruby Ridge5. NAFTA shipping jobs to China and India>We were denied the Gore Presidency we deserved.We were saved from a jew being vice president.
>>16512303Waco and The Balkans made him less than perfect
>>16515581I made a video connecting Waco to Janet Reno’s lesbianism
>>16526646Boom
>>16526680Janet Reno was a lesbian? I knew she weas a feminist. The satanic panic's main attack dogs were feminists that saw blood when every accused child rapist (male) was paraded on stage. Janet Reno was a prosecutor for the satanic panic. Waco was an extension of the satanic panic with a bleeding heart feminist going after (and eventually murdering) accused child rapists, judge jury and executioner style.
