How close are the native peoples of the Americas really to each other?maybe they form a close cluster or not? Did/do they have a "large shared family" like some other people?or are they just linked to a very general type of unity like the Caucasian peoples?How close would a Mayan and a Tupi-Guarani be? probably the Indians in Canada are more Siberian than anything.
>>16523833They ultimately originate from India my based saars. The ANE originated from India which has peaks in the Himalayas. as well the Asian component is completely AASI
Indian people are welcome in Mexico, Brazil, Argentina and Colombia and everywhere. They are much needed and welcomed and Latin Americans shall welcome Bharatians with open arms
>>16523833Inuits arrived in the last millennium from Siberia, dont know if there are other “recent” arrivals
NO; THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN «AMERINDIAN RACE».
>>16523837>>16523840mockery = argument denied.next
>>16523837Ive never seen Indians wewuzing Amerindians.Ive seen indoeuropeanist losers like you argue for Amerindians being their noble sabage kin because they shared some conmon ancestors like 20,000 years ago
>>16523841Yes.but what about the others?those who are not part of this recent migration? Are they closer? Was there nothing living in those useless regions before the Inuit? Did they go on boats?sorry for the questions.I think this subject very interesting
>>16523837ANE isn't as close to them as you want.>>16523847"Muh IE losers dudeee"You again? Troll
>>16523833not a lotevolution or God actually created a new race.Wanting to group them as one big race or cluster of single and separate PCA is like saying that Arabs and Germans are the same peopleAmerindian is a big concept like "Caucasian", even though they share the same specific morphology, they are still different and unique enough as are the Europeans and the MENA for example.A Mayan is as different from a Tupi as Napoleon was from a Saladin.Are you the Yucatan guy from yesterday?
>>16523865I got it, thank you.and yes, I'm the guy from Yucatan
>>16523833Yes.They are basically western siberians
>>16523833>Kickapoo
>>16523833>How close are the native peoples of the Americas really to each other?Not very is the short of it. The original Amerindians migrated into the americas tens of thousands of years ago, which gave them time to differentiate pretty widely from eachother. This is without accounting for foreign admixture which comes from, as far as I am aware, around four to five confirmed sources, I'll green text them for ease of reading.North america:>Dene: these are your navajo, Athabaskans, Tlingit. They came from Siberia less than five thousand years ago, and they have a different haplotype than other amerindians (C and Q, respectively)>The Inuit: They came from siberia at roughly the same time as the battle of Nicopolis. Genetically just Siberians.>The Dorset: Extinct genetic group displace by the inuit that also came from siberia.>Polynesians: SSelf explanatory but not very impactful>Melanesians: Same as here but widespread to all the andes and the amazon for some reason.>Did/do they have a "large shared family" like some other people?Not in any recognizeable way. Pan-family things are usually for languages. And amerindians have a shitton of diversity in that front.>or are they just linked to a very general type of unity like the Caucasian peoples?This is closer to the truth. But still not very comparable.>How close would a Mayan and a Tupi-Guarani be?Not very much. But this is because they've been separated for a long time. Also the Guarani might have trace Melanesian admixture.>probably the Indians in Canada are more Siberian than anythinYes but it depends on the Indians. ALgonquins are a local production.
>>16523899I had a teacher who was quarter kickapoo, supposedly her grandfather kidnapped her grandmother from her tribe in the early 20th century.Also half Russian, very interesting woman.
>>16523850>did they go on boats? Who?
>>16523901the OP's thread is boring and no one will read this.Too much text, wasted time, my friend.
>>16523907they are not linguistically related.and wow! Are the Aztecs really "Mexicans"? probably not>>16523833Mr. Obviously
>>16523906I will Kickapoo if you know what I mean the LARPing jeet pretending to be First Nations just to get on cuckdeau’s chief red cloud casino neetbux
>>16523919They originated in America same with all uto aztecan languages. Choctaw and Chickasaw migrated out of the otomis and settled in south east USA. It doesn't show in this map though.
>>16523901I don't know if I understand this map.he is very messy, do you have others?>Guarani might have trace Melanesian admixture.No.>>16523907
>>16523919Aztec spoke Nahuatl.
HOW CAN I PRETEND TO BE NATIVE TO GET TAX CREDIT SIRS. I HAVE NOT DOT BUT FEATHER AS WELL. I CAN MAKE GOOD FRY BREAD, NOT JUST NAAN
>>16523939Those are language groups but it can also tell you which tribes are genetically closer to each other. Kind of like romance languages. Or Germanic languages. Slavic languages. Etc..
>>16523907OP here.Very interesting map, I must point out!friend, do you have other maps or some books? My family has its history in some villages in Yucatan, but I don't think that entire area was a large "Yucatec" portion.My grandparents, for example, were basically from the "same area", but my mother told me that sometimes they spoke very different languages.>>16523901Thank you very much, my friend.
>>16523946>Kind of like romance languages. Or Germanic languages. Slavic languages.Horrible comparison.There is not even a geographic continuity of native languages originating from a base or main family.the map shows this, by the way.
>>16523951You can see how Mayan has different branches. Kind of like how Italian, French, and Spanish are Romance languages. They can understand some words kinda but they are different languages that came from latin.
>>16523968I don't think you understood what I meantthe map shows a linearity in basically the entire state of yucatan, even using its example of Latin and its branches.That's not what I saw in my family, without detracting from your map.the region should have, at the very least, more "branches"
>>16523974Oh I'm sure there must be. This isn't show all the languages. It's just showing the most spoken ones I assume.
>>16523951>family has its history in some villages in YucatanSources?
This one is even more simplified and it's focusing on USA and Canada.
>>16523833>Is there an Amerindian race?Short answer, yes.Long answer:>raceAs a social construct, there's already an Amerindian identity in several countries. The most recognized one is the "copper race" in the andes. Genetically, all of them share a common paleosiberian origin with some more neomongoloid or a different branch of paleosiberian. So, yes.
>>16523865>Arabs and Germans are the same peopleNot too far from the truth genetically thoughbeit
>>16523840Not true, fuck anything from the former British Raj.
>>16523833Most of those names along Central and South America are wrong.
>>16523833Genetically they’re as close the French are to Germans, they are a very inbred and bottle necked people. The only ones that dont fall into this mould are the Inuit recent invaders that shouldnt be counted as native American in any way
It was good for them to receive fresh blood from somewhere else. Its not bad to have some native blood since it gives you ties to the land
>>16525922>recent invaders Iron age=recent LOL
>>16523833theres some genetic drift in brazil + siberian admixture in the northern natives, but overall they are the same population / "race"Distance to: Amerindian_North0.21223168 SuruiDistance to: Han_Zhejiang0.21475628 Mongolian
>>16526108No
>>16523847>indoeuropeanist losersParadox. The most successful people and their enjoyers can't be losers without loser losing its meaning.
>>16523833I assume they must be pretty closely related since they were isolated for so long and have similar ancient ancestry. Look at navajos, they're Athabaskan so they come from a later migration, yet they look just like other Amerindian groups
>>16526159Except freaks like you are anything but successful.
