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Why is Christianity the only religion that can be openly mocked and disrespected and no one bats an eye, but any other religion its consider offensive and disrespectful?
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>>16526649
Internet atheists in the early 2010s were mocking Islam too (Draw Muhammad Day), but then Atheism+ and wokeism happened.
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>>16526654
Yeah but that was during a unique period and besides there were always people defending Islam before wokeism and calling out new atheism as offensive. It's just never been the same for Christianity.
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punching up vs. punching down
ironically, atheists believing they’re punching up contribute to the idea that it is the superior and true religion
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>>16526662
This checks out
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>>16526660
>It's just never been the same for Christianity
You mean never in your lifetime. The question is silly, you should be very familiar with the decline in influence of the Church and religiosity in the West.
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>>16526662
Yeah. Christianity also happens to be literally the only religion that profits from people mocking it. Making fun of it just makes it more powerful. Idk how people haven't learned this since it's been happening since antiquity.

>For Jews ask for signs and Greeks desire wisdom,
>but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to gentiles,
>but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
>For God’s foolishness is wiser than human wisdom, and God’s weakness is stronger than human strength.
1 Corinthians 1:22-25
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>>16526674
Ever since "modernity" came into light every other religion has been off limits to mockery except Christianity. The only exception to this was Islam for a brief period after 9/11 and even then there were still always prominent defenders of it.
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>>16526649
Christians have a persecution fetish. They WANT you to mock them
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if wicked men curse and hate you all because of me.
then blessed, blessed are you.
be not afraid, i stand before you always
come follow me and i will give you strength
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>no one bats an eye
have you ever been on facebook or an msn comment section? it's a never ending screed of boomers and flyovers whining about how they are under attack by woke in the school books and shit
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>>16526677
Amen. Though Christianity isn't Gnosticism, it comes with the territory of being the only religion to openly contend with the fact that the Earth is populated and governed by the fallen angels. It's hard not to be thankful for the world's persecution if you see who is in charge of it.
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>>16526690
Amen, anon.
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>>16526677
>literally the only religion that profits from people mocking it
Antisemitism and islamophobia are the same thing
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>>16526662
That's not what punching up means.
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>nooooooo White people need to talk about Islam and Dharma religions mooooooree this is so unfair!!!!!

Christianity is the religion of the (dying) West, especially the dark ages and post-ww2 secular christianity
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>>16526654
also there was the charlie hebdo massacre
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>>16526649
Because Christians don't blow themselves up and behead people if you disrespect their religion.
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>>16526649
Some Muslims like to mock Christianity for the supposed massive hypocrisy of its adherents. Yeah I'm not going to totally dispute this and am ashamed to say that there have been times where I myself may have inadvertently promoted this image, against Christ's command to be a light that shines before men.

But at the same time I also recognize my own weakness as a sinner, and that Christ came to call sinners not the supposed righteous (Luke 5:32). I also recognize the fact that there are many who are called, but there are few who are among the elect (Matthew 22:14). I don't even know if I am among the elect. I pray that I am though but who knows if I'll persevere in the end.

Anyway what I really want to hinge on is that Jesus himself says it all in the parable of the workers: First the landowner hires workers to work his land for the day at 6am, then at 9am, then at 12pm, and then at 5pm. He promises them all a fair wage. Finally during the evening the landowner pays them, each receive a days wage of work regardless at what time they were hired. Some of the workers grumble and moan that this is unfair, but the landowner says to them: "Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?" Illustrating the fact that its not our works which save us, but the calling of God and his grace alone. Anyone who is repentant before God, if he has true contrition, even if he knows his own weakness will lead him to sin, and his intentions are pure, can be forgiven. Our works do not earn us the wage of eternal life and sanctifying grace.
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>>16526712
>secular christianity
Can you even give a succinct definition of Christianity? Because it really seems like it's just a featureless blob that you project all your anxieties onto.
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>>16526735
No one can give a definition to Christianity because they literally cannot agree among themselves about literally anything. Hence the 30 garillion billion sects.
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>>16526744
What you are stating is the precise opposite of the truth. Christianity is the most rigidly defined and codified belief system in human history, no other religion even comes close. It was copied countless times by heretics, Moslems, and Jews, but that doesn't take away from the broader trend of Christian Orthodoxy, which survives pretty well in the RCC and EOC. The countless heresies attest very well to the fact that the Devil is real and he works by making lies resemble the truth.
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>>16526753
EOC represents 10% of Christianity...
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>>16526758
Which makes it the second biggest organization after the Roman Church, which is where my sympathies are really with anyway. And I already made it clear that I don't agree with your framing that heresy has nothing to do with Christian Orthodoxy/Catholicism, so it's more than 10%. There are plenty of fake Christians, that is just a statistical fact. It's not uncommon for 40-60% of people in a church to deny basic Christian doctrine on the Trinity or Eucharist.
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>>16526649
You faggots catch the most shit because you post shit like this
>ohhhh woe is me, we christians are truly the most persecuted people on the planet ohh it's so hard to be the world's largest religion
and you rightfully deserve to be mocked. You know perfectly well that threads "mocking and disrespecting" Islam and Judaism and Buddhism are quite popular, especially on boards like /pol/ and /x/. If you're asking why the average person seems more comfortable mocking christianity, it's because the average person in your majority christian nation isn't familiar enough with any other religions to be able to accurately mock them.
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>>16526764
Can you just admit your religion is a joke and submit to the one true God? All you gotta do is recite it anon... just say it. You know he was a prophet and a messenger, he loved Jesus and yes Jesus would follow him. The fact you think Jesus was crucified is proof your religion is weak from the start anyway. The religion of God is the religion that he gives victory to militarily.
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>>16526769
Atheists have a massive persecution complex too lol
>oh woe is me, we atheists were so persecuted when the church had power and to this day our fellow atheist homosexuals are killed in islamic countries and those pesky christians are always blowing up our abortion clinics!!! :((((((((
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Nice! A shit flinging thread time to get some popcorn.
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>>16526731
>there have been times where I myself may have inadvertently promoted this image
Son, you're on fucking 4chan. The very fact that you're browsing this site is an act of pure hypocrisy.
>b-but
No. There is no excuse for any truly devout person to be here. There are countless other sites you could use to talk with people who share your faith that aren't also full of all the evil shit that 4chan is full of. Whatever rationalizations you use to justify your use of this site, realize that they're just excuses because you want to to indulge in all the evil shit here.
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>>16526785
I literally just browse /his/ and /lit/...
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>>16526772
>The religion of God is the religion that he gives victory to militarily
Like all infidels, you're just repeating stale Jewish bullshit. The Jews wanted a great temporal ruler, and were disappointed that they got something infinitely better: a King whose Kingdom was not of this world. God is not defeated, those who think that their sins profit them end up bitterly disappointed after they take their last breath. Every knee shall bow.
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>>16526776
That's nice but I'm not an atheist.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
>Whataboutism (as in "what about…?") is a pejorative for the strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of a defense of the original accusation.
Do better.
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>>16526791
Well you're wrong because factually Christianity is the most persecuted religion on earth:
https://www.cato.org/commentary/christianity-worlds-most-persecuted-religion-confirms-new-report
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>>16526787
The /his/ that currently has threads like
>Why was Polygamy illegal ?
with a picture of anime girls with huge tits? Or maybe the
>Why was the pederasty so common throughout /his/tory?
thread with >100 replies of men discussing how they'd like to fuck young boys? Both of these threads are also full of pictures of half naked women.

Or is it the threads full of people inventing justifications to hate women or people of opposing political views that you love to much? You come here to fight and bicker and see the occasional ass and tits. You know perfectly well that there is no real discussion or debate here.
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Because Christians are white, and Muslims are Arab. That's it.
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>>16526805
It's called having filters.
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>>16526805
Also I don't engage in any politics. I don't believe in politics in general.
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>>16526799
>the largest religion also has the largest number of people being mistreated for their beliefs
yes, that's basic statistics
every nation listed in that article is a muslim or communist third world shithole, north korea and a bunch of nations in the middle east and africa
you are not being persecuted in your christian majority western nation
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>>16526682
>Christians have a persecution fetish. They WANT you to mock them
And that is because...
Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism.
Christianity is Jewish sect that thrives on eternal victimhood.
They cry victim as they stab you in the back multiple times.
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>>16526810
And you choose to come here, to a place you know is so flooded with immoral content that you have to create custom filters to attempt to block it out, rather than an actual christian website because...?

>>16526813
>still making excuses
You can justify it to yourself however you want but we both know that this is not the environment for anyone serious about their faith.
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>>16526808
>Because Christians are white, and Muslims are Arab. That's it.
Lol, Christians aren't white. Most Christians in the world aren't white.
Africa has the most Christians.
Oops. Better come up with a new theory.
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>>16526824
>And you choose to come here, to a place you know is so flooded with immoral content that you have to create custom filters to attempt to block it out, rather than an actual christian website because...?
Because why not? And yes I do go to other Christian spaces on the web.

>You can justify it to yourself however you want but we both know that this is not the environment for anyone serious about their faith.
My conscience is clean. I can't say much else.
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>>16526824
>You can justify it to yourself however you want but we both know that this is not the environment for anyone serious about their faith.
None of you even read your own bible.
Like literally none of you have memorized any of the bible.
It's impossible to take Christians seriously in any context.
The only reason they even believe in their religion is because they haven't read the bible.
Islam suffers from the same issues.
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>>16526833
>My conscience is clean. I can't say much else.
So, you're a faggot or pedophile that jerks off to homosexual or furry porn lol.
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>>16526833
>Because why not?
You know exactly why not. Would you recommend this site to your mother? Would you tell her that she should come browse 4chan, even if you knew she would only visit /lit and /his/?

That's why not.
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>>16526649
Are you kidding? There is a long history of mocking other faiths in the English speaking world. Go back a few decades and you could do it on network television. And of course in the non English speaking world atheists mock the religions they grew up with.
>but any other religion its consider offensive and disrespectful?
Because they are minorities in the English speaking world. Personally I think all religious traditions are fair to mock, minorities or not, but a lot of people disagree.
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>>16526825
SJWs see Christians as white. That's why they pick on them.
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>>16526649
I don't mock them, but I dislike all globoabrahomo religions.
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>>16526649
>western atheists are raised culturally christian
>most anglophones are western
>english dominates the internet
that's why islamic dogma or hindu dogma hasn't ever been much of a topic
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>>16526649
because its the only one that is true and real
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>>16526649
Christians are like a fat ugly bastard (like in hentai) who tries to get you to suck his cock really hard.
He stalks you, and writes you homoerotic letters in an attempt to get his cock sucked.
He doesn't care that the people you know have cooties because they sucked his cock, and that you know this, he just wants you to give him a chance and become his cockslut just this once.
If you cave in and suck his cock, he says you're not good enough at it, and should practice every day with him.
And that he wants to fuck your butt as well.
Why?
Because you already sucked him, so you might as well devote yourself to buttfucking.
You're his slut now so you should please him.
In fact, buttsex is what he prefers, but he left that unmentioned, because he knew you wouldn't agree to it.
Going in raw is too much for most people, but that's what he really *really* likes, and wouldn't have it any other way.
Aghast by this, you make your leave, and he uses the tape he filmed of your fellatio to prove his great skill as a lover to other people, to get himself sucked off again.
Every once in a while, you still get those letters.
In them, he's trying to convince you that painful anal isn't so bad, in fact, it's the best form of sex and that you're a prude who's going to stay sexless and face eternal frustration for refusing it.
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>>16526649
>can't defeat Christianity in debates
>cant defeat Christianity based on science
>can't even step into the ring of philosophy against Christianity
>no other religion has theology coherent enough to challenge Christianity
>all anyone can do resort to is resort to insults
Really makes you think
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>>16526649
People do mock other religions all the time you are just brainwashed by your failure cult into believing you a perfect victim that suffers and loses all the time and God loves you for this. You enjoy being mocked, that's why you made this thread. You were hoping for more mockery because you think it makes you correct because that's what you've been indoctrinated to believe.
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>>16526677
>>16526700
See they literally admit it here. They ignore criticism, thought, etc because they believe they are right merely because they are insulted. It is a victimhood cult.
>>16527372
They can you just love having your feelings hurt so much that you can't pay attention
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>>16527291
>It's true because they bully me for thinking it.
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>>16527372
>no proof, prayer doesn’t work and a talking snake
You’re like a mall kiosk salesman
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>>16527916
yes
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Why is so much of this board religious bullshit? And don't give me this "and humanities" bullshit. There are people here who make posts and argue as though religions are correct and it ruins discussions about actual historical events.
Most importantly, no one in the younger generations care about your made up mythologies. Your religions are all dying because they're wrong. Stop believing in fairytale you're grown men it's pathetic.
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>>16527372
Like seriously look at this.
Christians have literally never won a single debate against atheists and yet they just claim the opposite is true
It's like when Christians pretend that evolution hasn't been proven (it has) but then turn around and pretend that God has been proven (he hasn't and there's literally no evidence whatsoever for a theistic god) and yet they claim that evolution doesn't have evidence for it.
What causes people to have such an insane level of cognitive dissonance? Is the fear of death really that bad for these people? I don't want to die either but I'm not going to swallow a bunch of clear objective bullshit and deny reality because of it.
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>>16526731
>Our works do not earn us the wage of eternal life and sanctifying grace.
The workers still had to work in order to earn the wage, even if they all received the same wage regardless of the hours worked.

James 2:24 - You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
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>>16526731
>>16528093
If I may, let me try to clarify. We are saved by grace through faith, and works follow faith, so if our works are sinful and bad, our faith is dead (James 2:17).
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>>16528002
>It's like when Christians pretend that evolution hasn't been proven (it has)
Can you show me empirical proof of a species mutating into an entirely new species, or of an inanimate object graduating into a living organism? No? What was that? You want me to wait a million years? Some proof, lol.
>but then turn around and pretend that God has been proven (he hasn't and there's literally no evidence whatsoever for a theistic god)
Contingency argument, transcendental argument, intelligent design argument, etc.
>inb4 NOOO SHOW ME PICTURE OF BEARDED WHITE MAN IN CLOUDS!!!111
Oh, so you're that breed of retard. Lol. Also, Marian Apparitions (specifically Zeitoun)
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>>16528112
Maybe this for a start https://youtube.com/watch?v=LD_g4I07KY8
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>>16528123
>faith alone
>James 2:24 - You see that a person is justified by works and NOT by faith alone.
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>>16528134
Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast" Saved by faith, and by real faith good works follow. Simple.
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>>16528112
TalkOrigins has all the organized and well-cited evidence in favor of evolution one could ask for
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>>16528149
Now you're acting like a spawn of satan by making scripture contradict. James 2 literally says that we are justified by our works and not just faith. And here you come saying we are justified by faith alone. The historical understanding of Eph. 2 is that its referring to initial justification where one is given a new heart through faith which occurs at baptism.
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>>16528174
Does it have testable and empirical evidence of macro-evolution and abiogenesis? No? Then I'm not interested.
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>>16528247
Where did I say we are justified by faith alone?
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>>16528247
It doesn't contradict at all. James 2 shows how that good works follow real faith and bad works follow bad faith.
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>>16528289
James specifically says we are justified by our works and not by faith alone. The Protestant explanation by itself cannot account, because while yes works are the fruits of our sanctification, they also lead to an increase in righteousness, as Paul says:
>Do you not know that, if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God that you who were slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the form of teaching to which you were entrusted and that you, having been set free from sin, have become enslaved to righteousness." (Romans 6:16-17)
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>>16526654
True, and don't forget the post 9/11 bin Laden bashing
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>>16528316
Still not saved by them, salvation is a free gift https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_saved.html and no works will get anyone to Heaven.
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>>16526808
The majorities in western nations are Christian and white, leftist culture warriors see this as justified.
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>>16528252
yeah there’s DNA and molecular evidence
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>>16528112
insects mutate in the span of a few years. ever wondered why they're now so difficult to kill with insecticides?
or what about virii and bacteria, recombining their genotype so frequently that you need a different vaccine every year for the common flu?
and why animals change colour, size, behaviours based on what humans do and don't do?
you're being obtuse on purpose, that's why nobody wants to discuss with you, because there's no point in dialoguing with a zealot.
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>>16528252
>macro-evolution
? Micro and macro evolution are the same thing over different scales. It’s like believing in ponds but not lakes. Literally just an arbitrary distinction of scale of a natural phenomenon
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>>16526649
You worship a weak ass powerless man and nobody fears him. The other religions worship the Most High and everybody fears the Most High.
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>>16528379
No, they are not, an unalive thing cannot make itself alive and transform radically in huge scales like amoeba to fish to monkey to human, yet an alive thing can adapt, that's not the same thing at all
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>>16528381
islam and christianity both worship the same god, only that christians also worship a benevolent humanitarian that casted miracles, while the muslims worship a warlord pedophile that warped christianity into his own cult
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>>16528427
Muslims don't worship the same God as Christians, if you compare their beliefs, you can see it clearly.
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>>16528418
>>16528252
>I concede that weathering and erosion can alter rocks
>but there’s no way it could create canyons!
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>>16528375
>insects mutate in the span of a few years. ever wondered why they're now so difficult to kill with insecticides?
They're still the same species. Humans that live in torrid climates developed melanin-rich skin to help contend against the sun, but they're still humans. Micro-adaptations that accord with an organism's respective environment exist, sure, but that's hardly evidence of evolution.
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>>16528447
False equivalence. The more apt comparison would be:
>I concede that eating lots of food increases mass
>but there's no way that one could grow to the mass of Jupiter!

And I'd be right.
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>>16528338
Links aren't arguments.

And yes, salvation is a gift, no one disputes the primacy of grace. The Protestant position is stronger on grace while the Catholic position is stronger on merit which are the aspects where you and I disagree, not to mention the other aspects of your systematic theology which is what your positions are built on. I do not agree with you that your views are present in scripture.
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>>16528479
The link contains some sound arguments too large to post here, that's why I sent it in the first place. I suggest that you read it.
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>>16526649
>"why [blatantly false claim]?"
get out.
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>>16528477
So what’s preventing from these mutations from accumulating until species change?
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>>16528418
>cannot make itself alive and transform radically in huge scales like amoeba to fish to monkey to human
What are you basing this on? What is this mysterious limiting factor in evolution where you think it just stops at minor changes? Be specific.

Maybe your confusion is you went fish to monkey, instead of fish to mudskipper, to salamander, to lizard, to ugly rat like marsupial, to tree dwelling weasel like creature, to lemur, to monkey, to ape, to human ape.
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>>16528454
>Micro-adaptations that accord with an organism's respective environment exist, sure, but that's hardly evidence of evolution.
That’s literally evolution.
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>>16528520
Not confused, I just didn't want to type all of that out. There's not a single shred of evidence of that sequence happening, can't be replicated, and mathematically impossible the whole way you described it from start to finish.
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>>16528507
Present your own arguments. I will respond when I am in the position to do so.
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>>16528542
I've made some arguments, I could go on but why not refer to a link that has the rest already organized and presented very clearly.
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>>16528554
Because there'd be nothing for me to address specifically since I cannot engage with the author of the article. There's already a set of assumptions being made about what is taught by scripture which I do not agree with in the first place.
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>>16528532
>There's not a single shred of evidence of that sequence happening,
Make sure you never bother your future wife (if you get one) with a paternity test. Apparently you don’t believe DNA shows how living things are related
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>>16528532
What is the factor limiting evolution to small changes? Why are you ignoring this question from multiple people.
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>>16528565
No idea how you misinterpreted that much what I said, that
>There's not a single shred of evidence of that sequence happening
which refers to
>fish to mudskipper, to salamander, to lizard, to ugly rat like marsupial, to tree dwelling weasel like creature, to lemur, to monkey, to ape, to human ape.
>>16528578
That's simply the way things demonstrably work, who am I to say, that's how God decided it to be
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>>16528600
Man you are so ignorant of biology and evolution that you don’t get why that progression is spelled out in our DNA.

I’ll answer the other question for you. There is no limiting factor, in fact after a certain distance where populations become reproductively isolated, evolution accelerates because they never mix again with the original population. You’re trying to play out of your league now, sorry.
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>>16528653
>There is no limiting factor
Can you provide evidence of information-adding positive mutations? Mutations that rearrange and/or destroy DNA are common, sure, but you're never going to make a whale out of simply rearranging human proteins.
>>16528530
And how is that?
>>16528517
Mutations never add genetic information randomly.
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>>16528677
>Can you provide evidence of information-adding positive mutations?
First of all, any mixing of DNA creates new information. But a type of mutation that actually adds new codons is the duplication mutation. You’re not re-arranging proteins either, you don’t get this subject anon. I’m not trying to be rude, you are just factually trying to punch about your weight
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>>16526654
Oh yeah, thats right...

People used to be cool...
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This is Snake, I've successfully sneaked into the Demiurge complex.
https://youtu.be/oXKyMBsvst0?si=hsTvQqDUR7LZcPET
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>>16528748
>successfully sneaked into the Demiurge complex.
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>>16528680
By the way, I'm NTA you were originally talking with.
>First of all, any mixing of DNA creates new information. But a type of mutation that actually adds new codons is the duplication mutation
1. Yes, that's true, but not even gene duplication can acquire new, novel protein functions. It has never been observed empirically.
2. Gene duplications are inimical and liable to cause disease, and thus not even conducive for the production of healthy progeny, which is pretty odd considering that most supposed macroevolutionary mutations are supposed to aid its host in outcompeting its competitors.
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>>16528755
Very ez to prove gnosticism is real if you're into occultism, as you can tap onto archetypes and receive gnosis and energy.
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Christians conquered the world and have the largest religion and still have the largest victim complex ever. Stop blaming others for your inability to modernize. The moment christians realize their life is terrible not because of the devil but because of their incompetence is the moment christianity will be revived, otherwise it is doomed
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>>16528759
A new gene codes for a new protein, a duplication mutation in one generation adds more codons when mixed in successive generations.
It’s basically adding letters and most mutations are mixing letters. Regardless you get a new word. This happens over incredibly massive periods of time which I think you are struggling with.
A million years converted to seconds per year is 15 days. 1 billion seconds is 44 years.
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Uhhhh uhhh ohhh wow I’m feeling persecuted uhhhh ooooo OOOOOO I’M GONNA I’M GONNA I’M GONNA TUUUURRRRRNNNNN THE OTHER CHEEK AND PPPPPRRRRRRAAAAAYY FOR MY ENEMIES
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>>16528252
Anon imagine a river erodes a small section in a 1foot strip of the bed a century Now imagine that process continues for 10 times that period? 1000 years.
How about 100 times that period, 10,000 years. How about 500 times that? 50,000 years. How about 2000 times that length of time? 200,000 years.
Now is it going to be hard for you to accept that this slow natural process is is going to have a much larger effect when you extend the time frame 10’s, hundreds, thousands of times? You don’t think the effect increases?
Do you have trouble magnifying change in images in your head? Just curious.
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>>16528776
>It’s basically adding letters and most mutations are mixing letters. Regardless you get a new word.
And how many of those words are intelligible as opposed to just noise? Because you do realize that's what most mutations are, right? Noise, often deleterious. It is astronomically unlikely that any mutation will recruit a functional sequence in the vast sea of combinatorial possibilities that is sequence space.
>This happens over incredibly massive periods of time which I think you are struggling with.
A million years converted to seconds per year is 15 days. 1 billion seconds is 44 years.

>hey guys, i have a theory of origins. It only takes a bajillion years to prove!
Lmao.
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>>16528859
>And how many of those words are intelligible as opposed to just noise? Because you do realize that's what most mutations are, right? Noise, often deleterious.
Yup. And when you have a massive timescale >>16528821 you still get positive changes. Bigger muscles, better eyes, a fur color that better matches environment
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>>16528821
>Anon imagine a river erodes a small section in a 1foot strip of the bed a century Now imagine that process continues for 10 times that period? 1000 years.
The onus is on you to prove that micro-evolution can be likened to this process. For me, it's like saying, "if a man who eats ten cheeseburgers a day grows from 200lbs to 300lbs, imagine how much larger he'd weigh in a fifty years! He'd be ginormous!"
Obviously not, because there are obvious biological and physical bottlenecks that would prevent him from limitlessly growing.

>>16528868
>Bigger muscles, better eyes, a fur color that better matches environment
And yet still the same species. Like I said, I'm not denying micro-adaptations that would comport a creature accordingly to one's environment, but that doesn't mean you can create an entirely new species altogether. And this isn't even bringing up "convergent evolution" where many unrelated species across the globe somehow acquired the same statistically unlikely mutations (because mutations are 99% harmful in most cases, as most molecular biologists would tell you) in a SUCCESSIVE manner. Like, what?
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>>16526649
Jesus' dad was cool. But nutjobs hate that.
Sky-daddy is more appealing to them.
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>>16528479
If you read the new testament both Catholics and protestants can justify their beliefs. Some parts claim righteousness while others claim faith and grace. And the reason is because the new testament is a bunch of random letters a guy wrote to his friends about what he though was the best way to follow a religion they just made up. All while you ignore the teachings of actual prophets of God who God Almighty personally spoke to. Your entire view of God is based on letters written by a man who never intended these letters to be read by anyone other than the people he sent them to. They were not inspired by God or have a coherent and consistent message, just whatever was in the guy's head at the time.
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>>16528910
>The onus is on you to prove that micro-evolution can be likened to this process
There is no such thing as a difference between "micro-evolution" and "macro-evolution", there's just evolution. Why would DNA make such a distinction?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NArlXzSFt2Y
https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/science-sushi/evolution-watching-speciation-occur-observations/
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>>16528454
>Humans that live in torrid climates developed melanin-rich skin to help contend against the sun, but they're still humans
IMAGINE basing your entire argument around the claim that niggers are human.
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>>16528818
>things that never happen
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>>16526677
Paul is the original grifter of Christians.
Not sure I'd take anything his epistles say into consideration if you're looking for a messiah but lolchristians.
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>>16530542
2 Peter 3:15-16 "And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."
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>enters Jerusalem on a donkey to celebrate Purim
>enters Vienna in a motorcade to celebrate Ostara
>fails to elaborate
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>>16528755
schwarzeNIGGER
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>>16526772
>The religion of God is the religion that he gives victory to militarily.
Then why have Europeans dominated your regions for centuries now? Looks like you God has abandoned you.
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>>16528002
>atheists reduced to debating fundamentalists to secure some easy wins
Real Christians debate those guys too
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>>16526649
Who cares? You ought to be glad.
>Blessed are you when people revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
And remember:
>If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
So if Jesus tells you to be happy about being persecuted, you'd better be happy about it. Now stop complaining.
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>>16530780
Haven't ever seen a Christian vs Christian fundie where the fundie doesn't win.
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>>16526649
because christianity is the most openly racist, misogynistic, and homophobic religion there is
murdering people, destroying science, etc.
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>>16526649
because it is the Truth, the others are full of pride and pride is founded on lying
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>we dindu nuffin talk about pisslam or something
Persecution cult.
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>>16526654
>>Richard Dawkins' Berkeley event cancelled for 'Islamophobia'
muslim chuds btfo atheists
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>>16528112
Dawkins finches have speciated and its well recorded
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>>16528002
This is what I was talking about with this post.
The entire "argument" from the Christian side is to pretend that there's a separation between so called "micro" and "macro" evolution (there isnt) and to just outright make shit up and lie about how "its mathematically impossible" (it isnt). Making shitty analogies about eating to gain weight having an upper bound and pretending this somehow applies to accumulation of mutations also having an upper bound (they dont). Literally just denying reality and pretending that what you're saying is true despite the fact that it isn't.
You don't actually understand mathematics or genetics so why are you pretending that you do? Your argument is literally to just pretend that the way genetics and mathematics work somehow disproves evolution despite the fact that it's the complete opposite and geneticists, mathematicians, and computational biologists have already proven otherwise.
I don't understand what causes people to be this way.
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>>16528112
Yeah sure
https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/science-sushi/evolution-watching-speciation-occur-observations/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NArlXzSFt2Y
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>>16528677
>Mutations never add genetic information randomly.
Yes they do and this is literally just made up. You just making shit up and pretending it's a valid argument isn't actually a valid argument.
There is literally NOTHING WHATSOEVER stopping accumulated mutations from leading to speciation. You just pretending otherwise doesn't mean anything



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