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>>16534205That twink is about to get someI don't understand what you don't understand
Didn't know Greeks had it that big DAYUMN!
Greeks weren't gay.
>>16534284spartan women loved that BGC (big greek cock)
>>16534205Nothing gay about spitroasting a twink with your bro
These are all forgeries created by wealthy gay men in the Victorian era. Prove me wrong.
Can you imagine finishing your meal and then seeing that. Especially if you were invited to lunch with a group of men.
>>16534398Prove yourself right, faggot.
>>16534398Of course it's fake, it doesn't fit your preconceived notions.
>>16534226they’re wrestling stop your faggot historical revisionism
>>16534942>they’re wrestlingWith boners?Is this an artist's rendering of Genesis 32:30?
They're talking to each other about girls they like
>>16534398yeah it's all fake because it would hurt your international neo nazi movement.
>>16536516>it would hurt your international neo nazi movementNot really. If anything, it would mean Neo-Naziism can be pro-gay while still being against people dressing up like women and men being called "QUEENZ". After all, it's very well known that Greek homosexuality promoted masculine ideals, while modern Western homosexuality is based on feminine ideals.
>>16536529gays and trannies are the exact same so I am extremely skeptical of this divide
>>16536539>Hunters and serial killers are exactly the sameThey're only the same if you cast both of them out from the company of respectable people.
>>16534284>that>bigNgmi
>>16536529Ironically enough ancient Greek sexuality was closer to GAMP than to gay.
>>16534205My ancestors :)
>>16536569Wtf is gamp?
>>16534205That's fakeThere is no extant Greek art depicting anal sex which was looked down onAll the extant art depicts intercrural sex
>>16536516>national socialism is fighting brown pedophilesbased?
>>16534380This is pretty much how the ancient Greeks and Romans saw homo sex. The modern notion of sexual orientation didn't exist, in their eyes fucking another dude wasn't shameful if you were on top. In fact to a Roman eating pussy would've been seen as worse than being gangbanged by 6 dudes.
>>16537062Bottomphobia is the true scourge of society
>>16536684Guys who say traps aren't gay.
>>16534205Deboonked, homos were second class citizens stripped of rights both in ancient Rome and Greece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNAT4ybsz_E
>>16537099this, people take lots of things out of context
Joan Roughgarden refers to intercrural intercourse as the "gay male missionary position" of Ancient Greece.[19]
I still can't understand their pederasty
>>16537218Are you supposed to?
>>16537225if I want to improve my understanding of Ancient Greeks, I guess
>>16537218What part do you not understand
>>16537238the need for it, how they rationalized it, if they actually liked it...
>>16537218It was not actual pederasty, it was teens and it was almost always a consensual relationsip.
>>16537279Seems like you're looking for justifications for why it should be allowed, when you should be looking for reasons why it shouldn't. Instead of viewing Greek pederasty through a modern lens where it's illegal and you would have to move heaven and earth to change that, try and use an ancient frame of reference. Imagine that it's already a longstanding tradition, what arguments would you present for ending it?
>>16537308>Greek pederasty wasn't actual pederasty What does this even mean? They invented the word. What's your benchmark for "real" pederasty?
>>16537332I mean that they had already entered puberty. In the Ancient world at 15-16 year olds you were practicaly considered almost an adult if you were male. Greek Athenians also married way later than some other cultures, even as late as in their mid 30's. This meant that as bachelors they could pursue such relationships without being impeded by marriage. The relationship was also not only erotic , but could be seen as forging ties beatween the two families. In many cases nothing sexual even happened beatween the two partners and they were still considered "eromenoi".
>>16534205maybe the artist was a faggot, a lot of artists re retarded and degenerates tho
>>16537364So how is that not really pederasty? What do you imagine "actual" pederasty entails, and who practiced it in what period of history?
>>16537383>equating having a preference for chubby or older women with fucking underage boysSuck start a shotgun.
>>16537324>Seems like you're looking for justifications for why it should be alloweno? I want to learn about them, not rationalize shit
>>16537373Pederasty as an actual translation on how the Greeks meant it did not mean buggering young pre-pubescent children. That is my point. It was also on an instutional level at least tied to a youths education. Pederasty was also not practiced everywhere in Greece, it was mainly centered in Athens but it became famous in Athens due to it being the center of philosophy in later times. Also tt did not always carry a sexual conotation but sometimes it could. Over time because of slander and because of the demonization by Christianity of homosexual relations it became to become as "greek love".
>>16536500yeah yeah haha about "girls" please laugh at my 2 decades old joke
>>16537375Ive stated that with what I've already seen and being an artist myself (Im not a degenerate furry NSFW drawer btw), a lot of artists re just aroused at anything and re weirdos some in a bad others in a good way, also I think, in a artistical POV, at the time there were no formal drawing studies for human gesture, and they tried to portray the way they saw it, by this I mean instinctively, thats why the compositions feel weird idk
>>16537400Yes, so that's real pederasty and whatever you're imagining is the fake pederasty.>>16537397I'm helping you to understand, anon. You can't understand a thing if you won't think about it.
>>16536684Gynandromorphophile.>>16537095Not exactly traps. The order of response goes like: shemale with tits > women > traps >> men.For gay guys the order is: men >> traps and shambles >> women.
>>16538289>shambles*shemales
Greeks should be controlled by turks, they are too gay to be left alone to rule themselves
>>16537062Eating pussy is only bad cuz it can give you cancer. If women auto killed hpv and shot out clear water instead of urine when they squirt, I'd be on it like as of it were the fountain of youth itself.
>>16538325There's already an HPV vaccine so no worries about that anon
>>16537154>TRUTH: Philo was Jewish he's probably lying.heh
>so gay that your name and homeland is synonymous with being gay after 2500 yearsHow did she do it
>>16538372Ate that pussy like Chinese takeout
is it true that the spartan had a lover in the army to be more passionate fighting for his defense?
>>16538429Thats the thebans and yes they were incredibly homo like all gayreeks and most euros
>>16538297Anon... its not like the Turks are any betterhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D2keIfaPHgw
>>16538372>>16538381>ywn witness a sapphic orgy of ancient Greek qts Why live?
>>16538329That vaccine isn't a silver bullet. It only reduces chances so much. That aside the urine is still disgusting.
>>16534205>two men being massive faggots>"uhmm ermm actually they were just admiring the male form or something"Do you people worship brownoids that you have to make up this much shit?
>>16534205It’s just an ancient depiction of The first ever Cumtown podcast recording.
>>16538325>>16538653It's okay, squirting isn't a thing outside of porn.
>>16538681Hell yeah dude *lyre riff*
>>16538372She wasnt even a dyke, she had a husband in later stories.
>>16537530all artists are just hedonists, especially in atheist society since atheism is just hedonism turned into a protest
>>16538325eating pussy is bad because devoting your life to pleasing roasties is bad
>>16539354Lesbianism is quite fluid. More than half of lesbians claim to be a different orientation after a 10 year duration. However this does not apply to female heterosexuals. Only to females who identify as lesbians and bisexuals. Probably switching back and forth.
>>16539455I get pleasure out of seeing women lost in passion at the tip of my tongue. Women derive more pleasure from this entry point than from actual penetration. This is why lesbians report more orgasms even though they engage in less penetrative activity. Though I wouldn't do it with someone with an actual roast beef looking vagina even if the squirt wasn't urine and the chance for throat cancer was close to 0%.
lmao do you fags imagine a society of bearded men that exclusively fuck adolescent boys and also have wives that they don't ever have sex with for some reason and also somehow reproduce by ways of gay sex
>>16537674I can't think about something even understand it without liking it, retard
>>16534205if you ever wondered why white people were the first race to start tolerating homosexuality on a mass scale, here's your answer, faggotry is literally engrained into the foundational aspect of the European identity
>>16540501>can*lol
>>16534205I always questioned the context of such ancient Greek art? Why is it on a plate or an a vase? Was it art for your home and was it used for eating? Why would you have a gay threesome on your plate?I once read the suggestion that we misinterpret the context of such imagery and miss that they are meant to be comedic or satire, crude sexual humor. I think this suggestion is at least interesting to consider. There is the Eurymedon vase, which depicts a Greek with an erection chasing after a pathetic looking bent-over Persian. I think the comedic (and maybe political) context is the most obvious in that case.
>>16537218I guess it's an interesting case on how sexuality actually has a major nurture component to it. Being part of the elite and the educated classes it was a often seen phenomenon that they apparently had sexual desires for teenage boys. We see something similar in the Roman elite, we hear it both from the elite themselves and the early church fathers who decry it. It's not even little girls, no, it's boys in a particular age-range.If you would run around the Western world today and do totally anonymous surveys of men, the number of men who would've have ANY interest in sex with a teenage boy would be in the low single digits.
>>16536516> you are a nazi if you point out that only 2 pieces of homosexual art has been found> you are a nazi if you point out that when leftists praise the greek for being open to homosexuality they are pointing to pederasty, which is an adult man raping a male boy, who is often a slave> you are a nazi if you point out that there are no sources that describe homosexuality in a positive way, it's always used as an insult> you are a nazi if you point out that homosexuality was never accepted broadly> you are a nazi if you point out that homosexuals lost their legal rights
>>16534205Sex with twinks is not gay
>>16537099this guy is pure cope
>>16540796>sex with a man isn't gay
>>16540490the women are cuckqueans and reproduce by taking the semen from the twink bussies and putting it inside their vaginas
>>16540819This.he is strawmaning the rational take on Greek homosexuality (not the Pink News view) and quote mines pretty hard.
>>16540490wht a strawman. of course they did their duty with their wives to reproduce.
Why did plato wrote a book about teachers loving young boys?
>>16540292Because it's a defense mechanism. Men are retarded and find female homosexuality attractive. In a society where openly admiting to degenerative behavior doesn't automatically de-humanize you. Lesbians get protected by weak men. I'm sure powerful ((men)) loved her, that's why.
>>16540874>Men are retarded and find female homosexuality attractivehave you ever been on the internet, the reverse is more than true
>>16539354>>16540292My understanding is that Sappho ran a finishing school, preparing girls for courtship and marriage. The poems she wrote weren't ultimately intended for the girls themselves, they were intended to be recited by the girls for their husbands at their weddings. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some carpet munching involved, but I think it's probably greatly overstated.>>16540501I never said you had to like it, I just suggested that you might gain a greater understanding of why it persisted by questioning what reasons the Greeks might have had to put an end to it. Certainly there are reasons it would be bad; raising entire generations of incontinent men with loose assholes would be awful, but mostly we see Greek writers like Plato speaking out against specific actions (like buttsex) rather than the tradition of pederasty in general. This suggests that the problems we see with pederasty today, they saw as separable from pederasty itself.
>>16540919Men are in awe when a girl orgasms. In fact they even get a hard-on when a girl moans (sincerely or not)
