The sun will never set on the Swedish Emp- ACK!
>>16535930When I read about this the first time I cringed so fucking hard.
>>16535930Sounds like a fucking comedy skit.>Behold! The most powerful ship in the world! Pride of the Swedish empire>Ship immediately gets hit by a strong gust of wind and sinks.
>We will finish, what you started!
>>16535930Always funny to see empires in decline create such retardedly big ships that serve no purpose, such as; Santísima Trinidad by Spain, the Yamato by Imperial Japan, and the Admiral Kuznetsov by the Soviet Union. A few other contenders could be the frog or bong aircraft carriers that serve no purpose for their increasingly isolationist cunts and just serve as a tax bleed for their small military budgets
>>16535930Its poetic, really. The biggest ship the country could build, filled with too much weapons of war to stay afloat. Which sank around the time when Sweden, a country with small population and massive professional military investment, reached the peak of the power it could project due to its own small imperial core.
>>16535945>>16535930They were incredibly advaned for their size and population, but they reached their limit
>>16536070It didn't even get one Kilometer away from port.
>>16535930Never forget the Swedes did litteraly 10x the pillaging and raping that polaks and germans gush about Russians doing, and we're the swedes were only decisively defeated by the RUSSIAN empire. And said defeat was probably the worst an empire has suffered, Swedish empire was fucked so hard by Russia swedes invented a pacifism delusion to cope with their sudden ineptitude lmakThe blonde barbarism of germanics must be tamed by the Slavic man.
>>16537519Good thing the slavs are currently busy taming Tatar-yokies that call themselves Russians.
>>16537589>Good thing the slavs are currently busy taming Tatar-yokies that call themselves Russians.Funny you say that. The "ukrainian" state of the time of Swedish empire, rhe same one the modern ukrainian state traces itself from(lmao), litteraly was a tatar/Russian peasant mob which inevitably did ally itself with the Proper Russian state. I'm assuming you're some finngolian type tho.
>>16535930Did the 17/18th century kill so many swede soldiers that their warrior blood was completely spent? Baffling how they went from one of the most militaristic and warmongering nations to the quintessential cuckshed they are now
>>16537622>tatar/Russian peasant mobDescribes all Slavic peoples aside from the western Slavs
>>16535930>DAMN, THAT WIND BE TOO SPICY
>>16536049Sweden wasnt declining in the 1620s. The decline began around the 1670s or so.
>>16536049The Mahmudiye is pretty interesting as well. Biggest warship in the world at the time and fought in a bunch of battles. However, its hull was so rotted that they Turks didn't even bother upgrading it, they just scrapped it.
>>16536086He meant the Swedes retard
>>16535930Vatrat or dane dork hand
>>16535930Is Sweden a nation of cucks because the 17th/18th century wiped out their entirety of their warrior genes?
>>16535930>viking era Swedes are known for naval prowess >At some point after christanity they become comically bad at sea like a bunch of bumbling retardsSeriously what the fuck happened?
>>16539704There's a difference between building a single masted 20 meters long boat with no - or one - deck, and building a giant almost 70 meters long warship with 64 cannons and three giant masts
>>16539704>At some point after christanity they become comically bad at sea like a bunch of bumbling retardsDoes one major fuck-up really mean a lot in the grand scheme of their history? They developed other ships-of-the-line that learned from those mistakes.>After seventeen years of financial difficulties, the twofold enterprise was completed. At the death of Charles XI, Sweden could boast of a fleet of forty-three three-deckers, manned by 11,000 men and armed with 2,648 guns, and one of the finest arsenals in the world.They also managed to have outposts and colonies in Africa and North America.
>>16539704>At some point after christanity they become comically bad at sea like a bunch of bumbling retardsSeriously what the fuck happened? Not at all. Sweden was still among the countries with the highest number of oceanic merchant ships in the 19th century, more than France for example, despite having like 1/10th or 1/9th of its population
>>16539704Absolute midwit take. Actually midwit is being too generous. Sweden reached the peak of its power in the 16/1700s. Read a book or at least Wikipedia before you post again
>>16539704>>16539795And even in the military fleets department they weren't slacking. This is from 1870.
>>16535930The Swedish Empire is fucking absurd. What the fuck even was that? Some random viking backwater all of a sudden rises to become one of Europe’s most powerful empires, only to completely vanish off the face of the planet less than a hundred years later. And then they went BACK to being a backwater. If you visited Sweden or Norway in the 19th century, you’d see a society that could have existed a thousand years ago.
>>16539816Again. It didn't vanish anywhere.>>16539807>>16539795>Viking backwater Considering that the Vikings were expansionistic warriors who founded several cities and statelets all over Europe, and had the means to move large armies across the oceans, it isn't exactly a surprise that an empire emerged from their homeland
>>16539704Megalomania
>>16539704>>16539795In 1904 they were still the number 8 merchant navy in the world, barely below Italy, despite having like 1/8th its population, and MORE than Spain and Turkey
>>16539816The snownigger has the intelligence to build advanced civilization but not the spirit for it. In the medieval days, they had unmatched metallurgy and fine ships capable of reach vinland or byzantium, suggesting they were capable of something more grand, but chose to live in simple thatched longhouses and log cabins eating funny mushrooms instead. They gave being an overachieving faustian people a try, it didn't really work out, they went back to the life that appealed to them.
>>16539839Keep ignoring all the posts that show you're as ignorant as they come, keep on going with the epic /int/ tier banter
>>16539795>>16539806>>16539807>>16539837yeah that same Swedish Empire that lost at sea to Russians the first time they figured out how to use a boat, Clowns. No-one cares about their merchant shipping if they lose in battle.There's landlocked nations with large merchant navies. The question is why were the Swedes so bad at fighting battles at sea? They would routinely lose to Russia and even the fucking Poles.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Soundhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grengamhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ganguthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Oliwa
Absolute retards in this thread>>16539816>>16539839There were a lot more Central/ Eastern European powers before the late 19th/ 20th century, Sweden controlled Finland and the Baltics at certain points as well as jostling for power with Poland/ Lithuania, and then there was Austro-Hungary as well.Gradually Russia picked them off, defeating and/or conquering them, it's one reason the rest of Europe was so worried about how big of a power they might become.
>>16539869>lost at sea When badly outnumbered. And some of those battles you linked weren't even Russian wins.>Russians the first time they figured out how to use a boat, Russians already had large merchant boats, even proto-icebreakers in the Artic (Koch) and all types of merchant vessels, Peter the Great just modernized the state and ordered to build warships, (with the help of Dutch engineers), but ships and boats in general were always in use in Russia since basically as far back in time as we can possibly tell.
>>16537622>I'm assuming you're some finngolian type tho.Isn't this your type if you really are eastern Slavic? Although minus the Germanic ancestry.
>>16539876>Sweden controlled Finland and the Baltics at certain pointsI think Sweden controlled Baltics for like maybe hundred or two years. Finland was part of Sweden i think 600 years.
