It's reasonable to doubt that Jesus was a real person given that there's no hard evidence he was real, only speculation.
>>16543262"Christ" is a specific title, that Greek-speaking Jews gave to Rabbis, and means "One who is Anointed" in accordance with Jewish ritual"Jesus" is a Latin rendering of the Hebrew name "Yehoshua" (Joshua) which was a fairly common name in Judea at the timeSo, we have a man with a common name, and a common title. It would be like trying to find out if a character named "Dr. John" was real. In all likeliness, Paul probably invented Jesus and gave him a common name to appeal to commoners as a way to sell his apocolypticist sect.
>>16543262We can’t know for certain, but there’s more evidence for the existence of Jesus than any other Jew in the first century AD apart from Josephus, and that’s only because Josephus himself wrote things.
>>16543262There's more literary mentions of Jesus than of Tiberius Caesar. Jesus, the man, absolutely existed by every standard we use to measure the validity of a person's life in that era. Whether He was the Son of God is a different issue
>>16543358There's more literary mentions of Zeus than Tiberius Caesar. Therefore Zeus was a real person?
>>16543302What about Paul? There's more evidence for Paul than Jesus.
>>16543262>It's reasonable to doubt that Jesus was a real person given that there's no hard evidence he was real, only speculation.There's more evidence for Jesus than there is for all of Israel and Judah combined.
>>16543405A mans name written down a lot isn't evidence of their existence, its just evidence that people wrote their names down a lot, which for a religious figure makes this argument dubious at best.
>>16543405I don't know if you're serious or you're trying to make fun of Jesus historicists and their stupid arguments.
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>>16543458All of these videos have less than 100 viewsAnon...why are you shilling your channel on here?
>>16543410>A mans name written down a lot isn't evidence of their existenceThat's the best we can do for most people in antiquity.
>>16543466For a lot of notable people throughout antiquity we at least had more than a name though. Most Roman emperors for example, had contemporary busts made of them, and their side profiles were often depicted on coins, so we have fairly good confidence they existed. Jesus just doesn't have this. We know what Caesar looked like, we have no idea what Jesus even looked like. For someone that was held in such high regard you'd think someone would've made a contemporary depiction of him of some kind
>>16543299>"We're a bunch of former tax collectors, fishermen, and farmers from Galilee/Ivdaea and we want to live and die for a Dr. John invented by Saul of Tarsus who is also being executed with us for his own invention"does that sound plausible to nu-atheists?
>>16543490>Someone sacrificed his life for spiderman in a story therefore spiderman must be real.
>>16543472I hope you're baiting.
>>16543502If 300 years from now we'll have the son of a provincial general conquer Rome in the name of Spiderman, then I will concede my point.
>>16543465anon is merely acting in the mercantile spirit of based Ea-Nasir. Cut him some slack,
>>16543516Romans conquered things in the name of Mars. Therefore Mars must have been a real person.
>>16543551Of course Mars was a real person. But not God. Maybe a famous warrior who got deified for his deeds. That's beside the point though. You moved the goalposts twice without directly addressing the argument because you have no response except for useless and childish banter.
>>16543262>here's no hard evidence he was real, only speculationdemonstrably incorrect statement
>>16543262probably, it's not like the herodian kingdom was exactly lacking in apocalyptic anti Roman prophets>>16543358there's more mentions of jesus AFTER Tiberius Caesar was alive>>16543389this lol
"Jesus" was origimaly a vision some dude (Paul) had and only later people made tales about him being an actual person
