Today is Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day. Let's pay our respects to the poor souls who died in history's first genocide.
>>16546554>history's first genocide*cough*
Armenian history is really sad desu. They have been getting fucked up by neighboring empires for thousands of years.
>>16546588Their problem is they don't have long-term loyalty to their allies. Watch them backstab Russia next in favor of the USA and inevitably get fucked over again.
>>16546605I agree that their current President is a CIA puppet and will go down in history as one of the men who doomed Armenia to losing even more of its land.However Russia also was never going to defend them because they are so busy in the quagmire in Ukraine.They are in a pretty shit situation. Turkey is the closest NATO country and they want to murder all Armenians. Iran is an enemy of the USA. Russia is an enemy of the USA, so the Armenians don’t have any good options.
>>16546682I don't think the problem for Russia is the war in Ukraine. There are already millions of Armenians in Russia, so all Russia would have to do is fund and arm them with weapons and send them down to fight for their homeland. The real problem is that Russia is trying to remain on good terms with Azerbaijan and the other Central Asian Muslim countries (there are also millions of them working in Russia), and they can't do that if they give military support to Armenia. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
>>16546554Not even the first genocide of the 20th century
>>16546682It was better to be allies with Russia and Iran at the current moment because they have actual skin in the game when it comes to that region. The US can just pull an Afghanistan and leave whenever it gets too hot for them.
>>16546759Yes it was, the Herero and Nama genocide never happened.
what do you guys think of ermanis?
Who gives a fuck about armenians? Seriously. All this x genocide, y genocide is just a political tool to use against other countries. Humans kill each other, so what?
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>>16546885>Who gives a fuck about armeniansIf humanity condones one genocide, it opens the door for more genocides to happen. The Armenian genocide is a good example, the Turks weren't punished for it by the international community and so it motivated the Germans to do the Jewish genocide (which also practically went unpunished).
>>16547099>which also practically went unpunishedbait
>>16547105Many of the people involved largely got away with it. This wouldn't be allowed to happen now, look at how the whole world got together to burn ISIS to the ground when they genocided the Yazidis.
>>16547140It would and does happen today, proving the guilt of rank-and-file soldiers and paramilitaries is usually very difficult.
>>16546554Never happened
>>16546758>send them down to fight for their homelandMost Armenians in Russia are either settled diaspora who left for better prospects, or expats just looking to work, they're not soldiers. Sure, you'd probably find some but it's not viable, especially given the amount of air support they'd need against the Azeris. Your other point is spot on though, confronting Azerbaijan leads to Turkey getting more involved which can lead to a NATO escalation. A lot of Central Asia has clear Pan-Turkic sentiments but most aren't as batshit as the Azeris or Anatolian Turks when it comes to creating geopolitical incidents, so they'd be some soft power moves from them. Frankly, with Israel (one of Azerbaijan's key supporters due to Iran) being busy, and the Israelis and Turks in one of their spats, it'd be a decent time for Armenia were it not for Russia being preoccupied.
>>16546554There's a strange irony in the Gallipoli landings being launched against Turkey the very same day that they kicked off the genocide. Makes me wonder what would have happened if we got off the damn peninsula...
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>>16546605>Watch them backstab Russia next in favor of the USA and inevitably get fucked over again.They literally just did this which resulted in an ethnic cleansing in Nagorno-Karabakh.
>>16547602Interestingly you mention Gallipoli, as events a little prior to the Armenian Genocide are quite linked to it. After the Balkan Wars, Greece and the Ottomans hadn't signed a treaty due to the Ottomans refusing to acknowledge the total Greek victory in the Aegean and seizure of all Aegean Islands. It appeared both were heading towards another war in 1914 before being talked down by the Great Powers after the July Crisis kicked off to force Greece's hand into joining the Entente. The Ottomans had begun an expulsion of 150k-300k Greeks in fear they'd join in rebellion in the event of a Greek landing. The Germans were actually the main driving force behind getting the Turks to stop. Gallipoli was infact home to a large Greek population (hence the name - Kalipolis ('Beautiful City')) just prior, as the Turks were intent on fortifying the straits thereafter. Before this could be fortified, the Greeks planned on landings earily similiar to the later British plan (some believe this is where they got the idea). When the British invited the Greeks a year later to join in, they refused since gambling on the straits couldn't work now since war was already declared, and the straits already fortified. These deportations served as a precurser and prototype to what they'd do to the Armenians in Eastern Anatolia in the face of the Russian advance, and later to the Greeks once they entered the conflict, and to the Assyrians as the British made their way up Mesopotamia. Some speculate the Ottomans intentionally starved the Lebanese (mainly Christians and Druze) too but this is partially due to Entente blockades.
>>16547633The Ottomans and then Turks were very savvy when they were cornered. It's like if Germany somehow managed to keep Prussia.
>>16546554In turkey, we say there was no genocide
>>16547633>schizo headcanon
>>16547795>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1914_Greek_deportations>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Athens#Terms>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioannis_Metaxas#Greco-Turkish_crisis_of_1914>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioannis_Metaxas#Clash_with_Venizelos_over_Greece's_entry_in_the_war>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_Mount_LebanonEverything he said barring the British being inspired by the plan I could easily find from a few seaches.
>>16546554They didn't kill enough of them
>>16546554Respect to the Armenians and all the other victim of Turks who enslaved peoples for over a thousand years and are still proud of it.For those slavery victims there is no compensation.
reminder that these perpetual victims have never actually opened these archives to independent research.but keep believing allied propaganda like the good sheep you are.
Didn’t happen. Deserved it.
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