>>18332209
What the fuck is this pic even talking about? Languages?

>>18332209
Who the fuck speaks Irish?

Irish has been displaced by another unrelated language, Latin was not displaced and did not die but just diverged into natural descendant languages

>>18332209
Latin died because it simply evolved into new languages, Ancient Irish as it was spoken in 100 AD is also dead and unlike Latin can never even be revived due to a lack of written material.

>irish lives
it's a dead language that less than 5% of the irish population actually speaks
and the irish historically were pretty docile and subservient compared to other subjucated populaces like the balts or caucasians

>>18332209
>my Gen X Irish-American uncle from Massachusetts
>the post in question is extremely retarded
i hate this country and my fellow americans with a sick passion

>>18332240
Not having pride in being an American is what causes this type of belief in the first place.

That being said, you're right. We should start sterilizing retards again.

>more people in Ireland speak Polish than Irish
grim

Italians still speak latin. Its completely intelligible to them

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>>18332209
KOCHAM CIE

>>18332393
This would've happened 1000 years ago if ostsiedlung didn't push Slavs back from the Elbe.

>>18332240
>my fellow americans
Chicano wetbacks like you aren't real Americans.

>>18332389
There's so many insufferable retarded whores now you'd really have to go all out to become noteworthy on that criteria

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Before I explain who Kneecap are, yes the meme in OP is retarded. The reason Irish died out is because it was heavily suppressed, and then a handful of political leaders in 19th Century Ireland encouraged the Irish to learn English as a means of escaping the extreme poverty and discrimination they faced. Aka
>ditch Irish+learn English to get a job/career/go to school/etc
This combined with the widespread famine in the south and west in the 1840s was more or less the death sentence of the language; not only obliterating Irish speaking communities but permanently entrenching the idea that the Irish language is pointless.

>>18332211
It's a meme from an Irish lannguage rap trio called "Kneecap" who are very popular in the UK and Ireland at the minute. They are suggesting that the Irish language survived because "it rebels", kekked.
>>18332212
Many in Ireland speak a little bit of it every day, very very very few speak it as their primary language. There are more fluent people than before but it's very much still seen as a hobby.
>>18332240
Irish-Americans are obsessed with Kneecap.


Kneecap are basically just
>haha, brits out, am I right guys
>and drugs haha
>I love being working class and a big rebel
but set to catchy music. They started off very small as just another local meme music group from the north but went extremely viral and are now fucking everywhere, particularly on account of their anti-Israel messages.

Ironically many in Belfast (where they're from) think they're wankers, but the rest of Ireland+the UK is a bit obsessed with them. The symbol in OP's picture (3 white shapes) is supposed to resemble a balaclava, their logo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SsOmjwZKrI

>>18333017
>but the rest of Ireland+the UK is a bit obsessed with them
Nobody in the UK is obessed with them apart from a few retarded plastic paddies you dumb taig
they're a bunch of bacon wronguns as well which you'll no doubt defend

>>18332209
>takes money from the British government that is only available to British citizens
What did Kneecap mean by this?

>>18333017
>but the rest of...the UK is a bit obsessed with them
I'm pretty sure their popularity in Britain is entirely a result of that idiotic attempt to convict them as terrorists

>>18333020
>nobody in the UK is obsessed with them
Anon, they play many very very very big sold out gigs. Whoever the people you think buying these tickets are, they are all over the UK.
>dumb taig
lol
>>18333022
They usually try to play these tricks for PR; kick up a stink about not getting funding (usually because their rhetoric, for example, calls for the death of Tory MPs) and then their lawyers get involved. They use the same lawyers that Sinn Féin use, who are essentially experts at exploiting the British courts.

They get a big payout, give it to charity (last time they gave it to working class protestant kids) and tweet about it for woke points.
>>18333025
Yeah.
>British Government says "these guys are big mad evil meanies, we hate them"
>Everyone hates the government, flocks to kneecap
>Irish people liked worldwide, plenty of Irish students in the UK, recipe for instant gig audience
>Kneecap are anti-Israel, get an even BIGGER audience
some will cope and try suggest that they aren't popular outside of Ireland, but it's a laughable lie. I think they're insufferable faggots but yes, they are certainly popular. Funnily enough one of them is only pretending to be working class.

>>18333051
I'm just amused at them admitting that yes, they are indeed British citizens after all.

>>18333052
Yes, that attitude is seen constantly in NI but just makes people cringe. The whole
>heh...so you ADMIT you're British
as they rinse the government for a shitload of money yet again just makes people look assblasted. Common theme in NI is nationalists/republicans abusing their "right to British citizenship" to get ahead, such as that fella in the civil service who got thousands of pounds in a payout because he said a portrait of queen lizzy offended him.

>>18333051
Nobody i've ever met listens to kneecap
Plastic paddie taigs in liverpool and glasgow aren't representative of the entire nation you spastic

>>18333089
I know it may be difficult to hear but all those people who love Kneecap are simply as much a part of the UK as wallace and gromit loving southern poofters, anon. Seethe about it all you want, they are very popular and have made bucketloads of money touring the UK.

But you are very clearly of the main people obsessed with the Irish, so talking with you about it (or anything) is pointless. Shame, because as I said I think they're unbearable faggots

>>18333097
t. Kneecap

>>18333097
>I know it may be difficult to hear but all those people who love Kneecap are simply as much a part of the UK as wallace and gromit loving southern poofters, anon
I'm literally from the north you spastic. nobody i have ever met listens to kneecap
The only people who listen to kneecap are plastic paddy taigs and poofters in university who go to palestine rallies. spastic.
anybody talking about how based kneecap are round my parts would get their head staved in. we used to bash people with irish last names not long ago

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>>18333109
There is no need to be upset, anon. All that's been said is that they are popular in Britain, which they are. The fact that they are popular among people you dislike does not change that fact.
>we used to bash people with irish last names not long ago
kekked, aye I'm sure you did anon

>>18333114
Your entire life consists of seething at loyalists
>kekked, aye I'm sure you did anon
Yeah we did
try shouting out ira slogans before a bunch of charvas in ballies you'd shit your pants all the way back to ireland

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>>18333118
>Your entire life consists of seething at loyalists
You are projecting, anon. For you, /his/ is an ideological and cultural battleground against an enemy you invented in your head.

For me, it's a history board to talk history!
>Yeah we did
Aye, anon. I bet you're every scary, just like every posturing faggot on 4chan.

>>18332209
Latin is still used to this day by scientists and intellectuals, while the Irish language is used by people with an eternal seething of the British.

>>18332393
Poles are literally just here because they do shit jobs Irish people don't want and see as beneath them. They aren't in a position to flex, they just come from a shithole and would rather live anywhere else.

>>18333119
Your entire life consists of seething against loyalists on /his/
these posts take me less than a minute to make meanwhile you spend hours searching the internet and reading books and spending thousands on a uni degree to justify your insane and deranged hatred of loyalists.
>Aye, anon. I bet you're every scary, just like every posturing faggot on 4chan.
funny seeing you state this when you threatened some aussie shitposter that you'd break his legs if he ever came to belfast. top kek

>>18333017
To be completely fair some of their songs are bangers (H.O.O.D. for example), but I see how they're probably perceived as wankers in NI

>>18332389
I only know of (from the top of my head) Margret Thatcher, Joan of Arc, and Florence Nightingale. And they're well-behaved.

>>18333135
>you spend hours researching history to talk about history
and you spew /int/ slop. we are not the same.
>seeing you state this when you threatened some aussie shitposter that you'd break his legs if he ever came to belfast
Seen you claim this before, but you've never managed to produce a screenshot or even an archive link to when this happened, because it didn't.

I imagine I told him something similar to what you're saying; that if he rocked up to West Belfast and started singing UDA songs, someone would take issue with it. YOU are the one suggesting that you personally ran around beating up Irish people, despite being reduced to a screaming rage on this website daily by the mere mention of Ireland, kekked.
>>18333137
They are obviously good enough to draw big crowds, but between the allegations of rape and the perception of being attention seekers many are a bit fed up with them in Belfast. A lot of the money they make from UK tours gets poured back into West Belfast though so nobody complains.

>>18333149
>and you spew /int/ slop. we are not the same.
You spew /int/ slop under the guise of actual history. And you paid thousands to go to university for it. you're pathetic
>YOU are the one suggesting that you personally ran around beating up Irish people, despite being reduced to a screaming rage on this website daily by the mere mention of Ireland, kekked.
Never said i personally did it. just that it wasn't uncommon for people with non english names to get the shite beaten out of them. same happend to poles and pakis.
>despite being reduced to a screaming rage on this website daily by the mere mention of Ireland, kekked.
loyalists literally live in your head rent free. loyalists live in irish heads so rent free they try to pretend ulster scots isn't a language. kek

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>>18333164
>no no no no no, no YOU!!!
Anon, you are on a history board. Lots of people here studied history. You getting your views from strangers in comment sections on facebook is a bit like those lads who put "University of Life" in their profiles.
>yet even more projection
I suppose the made up fenian in your head that you obsess over 24/7 is personified by me leisurely posting about Irish history on this board. What a misreable existence lad. Hope you grow out of LARPing online about being a big hard man soon.

>>18333169
>I suppose the made up fenian in your head that you obsess over 24/7 is personified by me leisurely posting about Irish history on this board. What a misreable existence lad. Hope you grow out of LARPing online about being a big hard man soon.
Loyalists live in your head rent free.
You will never have a united ireland.
You will always be British.
You will never be irish.

>>18333192
This is a bot btw, it replies to keywords to bait people into responses, notice how it keeps referring to tangentially related topics to continue baiting a response but doesn't ACTUALLY respond to the topic at hand? Especially with the constant repetition.

>>18332209
>Written in English

>>18332209
There are probably more Latin speakers than Irish ones because of how important the former has historically been.

>>18333149
oh I didn't know they had rape allegations. is there any substance to them?

>>18333230
haven't seen anything, but under any post mentioning them (look at AVA Belfast for example) there are fuckloads of people. according to said mass commenters attempts to bring it up have been shut down by their lawyers.

been going on for years at this point. fuck knows if its true, but many in belfast hate them for it