How were the Soviets able to pretend, with a straight face, that this wasn’t blatant imperialism?
because >ooga booga rashka big we strong now
>>18333486Because they believed that if Russia has become "first socialist country" it means that only Russia had right to lead World Revolution.
>>18333486>Not having fascism on your borders is imperialism o algo
Commies may be faggots but imperialism is based and only onions losers cry about it. All of the best countries in history have been nakedly imperialist
Other than Poland, every single one of those countries had been allied with and collaborated with the Nazis on a large scale and participated as co-belligerents in a war of genocidal aggression against the United Soviet Socialist Republics. Unfortunately Western historiography has treated it as though the CCCP simply took over these nations for no reason.>Hungary German ally and collaborator>Romania German ally and collaborator>Albania Italian owned Italian and German collaborator>Czechia German protectorate and collaborator>Slovakia German ally and collaborator>Lithuania German ally and collaborator>Latvia German ally with widespread collaboration and enrollment in the SS>Estonia German ally with widespread collaboration and enrollment in the SS>Bulgaria German ally and collaboratorYugoslavia was Communist and aligned with the USSR during the war and the partisans fought bravely, so it was under its own rule and left alone. All other countries lost their right to any sovereignty for their participation on the side of the Axis powers.
>>18333486Most of these countries allied with Nazis
>>18333530The funny part is that the crimes against humanity committed by the USSR were comparable to those committed by muh heckin Nazis
>>18333539What's even the point of lying like this?
>>18333530bulgaria also had a domestic revolution shortly before the arrival of soviet troops. iirc there was some oss memo from the 1945 about the internal state of affairs in bulgaria/romania, it differentiated them in that the new socialist government was far more popular in the former than the latter. it probably helped that the soviets made romania cede southern dobruja to bulgaria, and fought off anglo-french attempts to make us cede the arda valley in the southeast to greece
>>18333530>Czechia collaborated Lmao
>>18333545>raping german women and girls>gulags>invading poland with hitler for no reason>genociding Kazakhs>manmade famines >holodomor >political purges >forced migrations>forcing factory labourers to work seven days a week
>>18333557All justified as an anti-Nazi measure. Kazakhs were literally a Nazi ally
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>>18333558Was invading Poland with the nazis and almost becoming an axis power also antinazi measures?
>>18333566He won't reply to this. Tankies never do.
>>18333557>gulagsDo you think France, UK, Italy, Peru, Brazil, The US, Thailand, Japan, etc. didn't have prisons?
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>>18333574Those nations actually have rule of law, they don't simply grab people off the street for being accused of sedition and then work them to death.
>>18333586No blond police exist.
>>18333586>Soviets doing what literally every 20th century state does is somehow uniquely bad o algoFor anti-communists words have no meaning and they're just tools to trick humans with.
>>18333558I'm sure all the non-communist anti German resistence movements in eastern europe were actually nazi allies too and deserved to get killed or sent to gulags
>>18333566Stalin waited until Poland had already been practically defeated and then entered the war to liberated Western Ukraine and Belarus>But why didn't he go to war with Nazis in 1939Because England had rejected Stalin's offer of an alliance and France, though a Soviet ally, wasn't a strong one
>>18333593He still was involved in destroying the lives of Poles that did nothing to the USSR and Stalin'regime was considering joining the axis powers
>>18333590Funny you say that since communists have ruined the lives of millions of people
>>18333596The "Axis powers" is the slang term for the Nazis' Anti-Comintern Pact. Do you have evidence of the Soviet Union offering to join the Anti-Comtinern Pact? Because that certainly seems unlikely to me, for obvious reasons
>>18333574Most of those countries aren't shitholes that send people to jail because they didn't like the government
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>>18333601The US sent people into concentration camps based on ethnicity alone. Again, nothing but lies exit your mouth.
>>18333592There were no such movements outside of Poland, none of any significance anyways. And the geopolitical reality was that there were 2 sides to pick from and all these petty Eastern European statelets chose the Axis.
>>18333600Nigga you know what I meanEven if the USSR wasn't planning on becoming your autistic definition of an axis power it was still an ally to the axis
>>18333601and look where that led lmao
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>>18333605Most normal civilians don't think thats ethical and most of those policies were abolished under president Obama
>>18333518>imperialism is basedWhen it actually contributes to your country and your subjects. The Soviet model of imperialism plunged Eastern Europe into poverty for half a century while never bothering to improve the metropole of their empire. Russia today is still as much a shithole as it was then despite their exploitation of their former vassals.
>>18333617Now show the US or Brazil in place of bongland>implying modern Russia would have the same policy as the USSR
>>18333614>NOOOOO NOT THE MEANIE ICE MEN DEPORTING MUH POOR HECKIN ILLEGALRINOS
>>18333617Modern commies are so desperate for literally anyone to support they have now resorted to dickriding the kleptocratic oligarchic shitheap that is modern Russia
>>18333530>All other countries lost their right to any sovereignty for their participation on the side of the Axis powersDid the Soviet Union not also lose its right to sovereignty for collaborating with early Axis expansion then? If it hadn’t been for Molotov-Ribbentrop Hitler wouldn’t have been bold enough to invade Poland and start WWII
>>18333631>Non aggression pact es collaboration o algo
>>18333628>kleptocratic oligarchic shitheapevery liberal democracy becomes this, all russia did was speedrun it
>>18333642>it was only a non aggression pact
>>18333647>every liberal democracy becomes thisAs oppose to marxist shitholes where that's the striving goal
>>18333642That is literally more of a collaboration than most of the nations he listed. They literally aided an abetted the Nazi annexation of Poland.
>>18333536so did soviets
>>18333664Except they didn't. German invasion of Poland was on September 1 1939. Soviet annexation of "Polish territory" (in reality Ukraine and Belarus) was on September 17 1939
>>18333704Lolwut. Witold Pilecki was executed for mentioning Soviets and Nazis allying to control the postwar government.
>>18333518The best countries are characterized not so much by imperialism as by respect for the inviolability of private property, unfettered freedom of speech, and the traditions that ensure these two things. Russia has always been poor in this regard.>>18333605The United States sent Japanese and Germans to camps, but firstly, they were much more comfortable than those in the USSR and Germany. Secondly, almost no one died there (except for a couple of escape attempts). Thirdly, the United States, unlike Russia, officially apologized to the people imprisoned and paid compensation in the 1980s.>>18333617Ah, yes, Britain. The country famous for its liberal traditions. Idiot.>>18333628>kleptocratic oligarchic shitheap that is modern RussiaAlways has been.>>18333647The problem is that Russia was not even a liberal democracy.
>>18333704They still invaded Poland with the help of GermanyThey sill annexed territory and they still were allies to the axis
>>18333556Czechs folded immediately to Nazi blackmail and then licked Nazi boots for the duration of the war. Some randos killing Heydrich doesn't redeem them
>>18333737But that's because germans were Czechs and the real Czechs were all killed and had no role in the war.
>>18333711>Ah, yes, Britain. The country famous for its liberal traditions. Idiot.Skin /his/tards alive.
>>18333606There were and the communists persecuted members of those resistance movements for not being Moscow's lapdogs. Many of them were imprisoned, executed or sent to forced labour camps after the war. Poland's case was the worst though. Around 50k members of the armija krajowa were sent to gulags. Around 20k polish resistance fighters were executed by the communists. Tens of thousands were arrested and imprisoned and many more were persecuted and had their lives ruined by the communists. >All justified as an anti-nazi measureCommies really are evil
>>18333788as a pole, i don't have to like the soviets to recognize the nazis were trying to genocide us. sometimes you have to support the lesser of two evils. in the case of ww2 it is less bad that the soviets won
>>18333782Just because it "invented" liberalism doesn't mean it still follows it to this day
>>18333486I'm not a communist, but I do not believe that was imperialism, or at least not unjustified imperialism. They needed to defend themselves against UK/USA/France whom already demonstrated they were agitators of war (see: World Wars).
>>18333817Nigger just shut the fuck up, you didn't know what you were talking about and got embarrassed. Another dime a dozen retard who treats 4chan as a contest to see who can get the first gotcha, you'll save a lot more face if you stop posting.
the soviets after lenin were just imperial russia dressed in red
>>18333860i'm an ill read teenager who browses r/historymemes and this is my post
>>18333849Not an argument niggeryour daddy Stalin was a nazi lover until it bit him in the ass
>>18333863you're a retard with no argument and you should kill yourself
>>18333849 Seethe. Britain=Russia=White trash shitholes without liberal traditions. First has monarchy without constitution in XXI century, next is authoritarian dictatorship with political tradition frozen in 1700.
>>18333863tl;dr kys rusnigger
>>18333530It wasn’t for no reason but was imperialism>collaboratingYou mean like the USSR did?
>>18333486They aren't, it's pure cognitive dissonance from leftistsTrotsky was even worse with his whole "export the revolution" bullshit
