What's the point of development when it only leads to picrel?
>>18334913uhhhh I like having electricity and modern medicine even if it leads to "degeneracy"
>>18334914I think people living in huts commit lesser sins then us
>>18334914>>18334913Definitely his is the definition of good times creating weak men.
>>18334921Are you battle of stalingrad guy?
>>18334913Even if you buy into the argument that civilization is cyclical it's clear that we've gotten more and more developed this cycle, the western world has seen almost a millennia of technological improvement with little to no regression. If you're too scared to do anything just because things might get worse in the future then go find some corner to lie down at and await your death.
>>18334913We should back to mesolithic
>>18334913We should back to cambrianhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YsNRnZRgg8
>>18334913We should back to Archaean
>>18334944How many steppe they had?
>>183349606 7
>>18334930NTA. Things are only getting worse in every way except where technology is concerned which and it has done more damage than good. I'm not lying down, I'm just not conforming to it. The only thing you have anything good to say about or can say anything good about is technology and that speaks volumes. We may have become more "developed" but it's only technological. Technology advances while we lose sight and grip of everything else that got us this far in the first place. Increases mental illness, physical illness, avoidable and unnecessary death, degeneracy, spitefulness, pettiness, arrogance, ignorance and yet an overconsumption of information, hypocrisy, corruption, dissociation, apathy etc etc. We're being fed through a cold machine that's being built and maintained by us. The only people that think life's going well or getting better are people that got their little slice of life and never step outside of it. Delusional people but I don't blame them, the fuck else are you supposed to do? Kids are also objectively dumber as well btw, not just different. At some point we can't blame generational and cultural differences, at some point people have actually become dumber.
>>18334966We've progressed in many ways but regressed in others, I think you're right but you and a lot of other people also seem to take a lot of the good things for granted. You're no longer expected to lose up to half of your family in yet another cholera outbreak, a pointless war between two feuding lords or because you had the good fortune of developing type 1 diabetes at the ripe age of 22, leaving three children behind (and four dead ones, but they didn't even make it past their first winter so who cares.) Even if you're born poor you're still entitled to education and you can take loans to pursue higher education and climb the social ladder. Sure, Russia-Ukraine is going on and we had the Iraq wars not too long ago but that's a far cry from entire continents constantly being plagued by ongoing conflicts. It truly is a shame that we've created so much wealth and freedom but chose to spend it on cheap entertainment, that we have the chance to be more connected than ever but we're paradoxically more lonely than before, that we have unprecedented levels of access to healthcare, fitness and food but many are chronically unhealthy. We could fix most of the issues but we don't. What would you have our ancestors do? Have the foresight to come to a global agreement to be anarcho-primitivists because if GDP rises too much then people will prioritize TV shows over deep social bonds?
>>18334913The point of development was never meant to free you from that. That's just your natural state as a man.
>>18335019None of these things are worth the downsides and most people do not benefit greatly enough and actually suffer more because of its existence.>you and a lot of other people also seem to take a lot of the good things for grantedEveryone takes everything for granted when it's easily available long enough and what does it even mean to not take something for granted in modern society, what do you expect? I'll tell you what it means to appreciate things. I live in the woods and have for years, my life requires more manual and extensive effort for basic comfort. It's tough and it's rewarding. It took me going through the worst to appreciate the comfort and luxury's I once had, but that's indeed what it took. Comfort and luxury and convenience is damning in more ways than it's beneficial and a natural side effect of having all that's good for too long is that you will take it for granted. The industrial revolution and it's yada yada something like that whatever none of it was worth it.
>>18334966>>18335019>>18335053We traded one set of problems for another. Yeah plagues aren't a problem and yada yada but check this out. Think about it like this, medicines are addictive or have bad side effects and wouldn't even be necessary if it wasn't for the way we live. We only actually needed them for natural affliction but we created more health problems with the way we live and are now being experimented on by these companies and it's expensive to get the food stuff which again we wouldn't even need if it wasn't for modern lifestyles and exposure to nasty shit that has even altered us genetically. Cars are cool, makes travel easier but car deaths by the hundreds every month. Planes are safer than cars, a plane goes down though and anywhere between 50 to 200 people die. Same thing with buses and trains. Guns are useful but, you know... Food is tastier and more plentiful but killing people. Hostile and hostility inducing infrastructure because our brains can't fully adapt to the way we live. Whatever you get the point. Yeah we should have stopped at some sweet spot but we didn't, we fucked up. None of it was worth it. We wanted fast cars, traveling 10 miles in an hour wasn't good enough. None of it was good enough and now we're paying for it. I'll be here in the woods. There's nothing that can be done, the river flows and it is beyond our control. Always has been.
>>18335055>food stuffGood stuff is what I meant. Point being the stuff that would help people isn't easily available. It's fucking expensive.
>>18334913Because life is still worth living? We will all rot one day, but we still get up in the morning and try to do the best we can despite it. This age will come to a close, but it's not like that renders it meaningless.
>>18335053>>18335055Isn't it telling that despite slumming it in the woods you still want to spend your time shitposting on 4chan? Aren't you supposed to be out fishing, chopping wood or sitting on your porch staring into nature while your dogs rest at your feet?
>>18335079>Shit posting I'm conversing.>Aren't you supposed to be out fishing, chopping wood or sitting on your porch staring into nature while your dogs rest at your feet?>Aren't you supposed to beNo, I'm not "supposed to be" those are your standards, not mine. I do chop wood, I do fish, I do stare into nature and I don't need an extra mouth to feed. Tell me something shit for brains, what exactly is it telling? You don't know shit about me. Now either address what points I've brought up and have a conversation or leave me alone. I have a nice camp and i enjoy life in comparison to the hell I used to go through and I talk to people on the Internet. So what. You are right though, the last real and unnecessary connection I have to you annoying cunts is this phone and all it does it takes 50 more dollars out of my pocket every month. Actually been considering getting rid of it because there's nothing good on here, just more people holding me to their standards and acting like they know more about me than I do and also completely ignoring everything I say in favor of whatever dumb irrelevant shit they have to say.
It's a cycle : you could invert the order of picrel to end by " strong men create good times" so it showcase a more positive goal to history
