If history has taught me anything, it's that you should always find ways to have your enemy start a war, then you are forever justified in how you respond.Whether it's fortifying an outpost off the coast of your enemy, a passenger ship carrying war armaments, or depriving an empire in a state of total war of its lifeblood, poking the bear is essential.You can use any number of political, economic, and informational means to provoke a war, but whoever responds first with military action is who goes down as "starting it." Provide all the facts before the war, and nobody is interested - they'll brush it off as "apologism" or "revisionism." Once you have goaded the enemy successfully, enjoy genociding them without restraint because "you can't start a war, then claim oppression because you lost it."
>>18341248Doesnt always work. Poland started the war with Germany, and germany still gets blamed for how they responded
>>18341248Even more cynical, you can cajole a country you don't actually care about into starting a war with you just so you could fight their military allies, which are the ones you actually care about, and exploit their attack to swing public support in favor of interventionism.
>>18341267hitler chose to declare war on america immediately after hearing about pearl harbor. he bizarrely believed that japan never lost a war in history.
>>18341376Germany and Japan were signatories of the Tripartite Pact, FDR knew that getting Japan into a war with the US would get him what he really wanted - war with Germany.
>>18341380japan attacked pearl harbor and hitler then immediately declared war on america. but it's somehow all america's fault.
>>18341383I'll lay out the big picture in one sentence: The oil embargo on Japan was imposed specifically because FDR wanted war with Germany.
>>18341394america is not obligated to sell oil to a rival power that was looking to dominate the pacific
>>18341432Past administrations encouraged Japanese imperialism. Japan became a "rival power" under FDR, not because he gave a fuck about them but because they were allied with Germany. FDR wanted to help the Soviets and was already heavily coordinating with Churchill on "educating" the "ignorant" American public on why America needed to join the war. He didn't really give a fuck about Japan, he wanted war with Germany. The oil embargo was imposed to have war with Germany.
You can start the war just over react to a loss and convince everyone else that your one big failure was actually the cause of the conflict.
>>18341267>you have to sell your oil to an expanding violent empire that is even randomly attacking your allies and even your own citizens in the pacific or else they will sperg out and bomb your naval base
>>18341438>you have to sell your oilYou don't have to sell oil to anyone. Cutting off vital trade is a clear signal of hostility>violent expanding empireAmerica was a violent expanding empire. So were the British. So was every empire. Past admins, including the superior Roosevelt, encouraged Japanese imperialism.>your alliesAmerica was a neutral isolationist country. Granted it was ostensible and FDR was dying to go to war already but the American people still held sway at that point
>>18341434why shouldn't FDR ally with a weaker isolated power (USSR) against a stronger alliance of more advanced industrial countries, one of which was also expanding far more rapidly? Japan was propped up before when it was much smaller and weaker. it's classic balance of power.
>>18341483>weaker isolated power/his/ told me stalin singlehandedly turned the ussr into a superpower, what are you on about?
>>18341483>it's classic balance of powerHow about upholding the neutrality and isolationism your people demanded from you? America is in a whole different hemisphere, there was no reason to play this British "balance of power" faggotry. And his support of the Soviets was not a strategic one anyway, he admired Stalin and his administration was filled to the brim with Soviet sympathizers, not to mention the spies which were already active in the government as revealed by the Venona project.
>>18341248Chinese propaganda photo
>>18341251>>>/pol/
>>18341376Japan never had lost a war. WW2 is the only war Japan lost
>>18341383America forced Japan into war with the oil embargo and Hull note ultimatum
>>18341432>that was looking to dominate the pacificIt was America, Britain and the Netherlands that occupied the region
>>18341578>we dindu nuffin!!
>>18341434>He didn't really give a fuck about Japan, he wanted war with Germany.The oil embargo was imposed to have war with Germany.FDR wanted war with both Japan and Germany, but mostly Japan. FDR was close to Stalin and Chiang Kai Shek, both of whom were anti-Japanese. Futhermore, FDR viewed the deployment of Japanese troops in French Indochina in 1940 as a threat to western colonial dominance in SEA
>>18341438Economic warfare and cutting off necessary resources is an act of war>expanding violent empire that is even randomly attacking your allies and even your own citizens in the pacific1. Japan wasn't "randomly attacking" American allies. They were at war with one country, China. Both China and Japan were US allies when the Second Sino-Japanese War broke out in 19372. Japan didn't attack any US citizens prior to the war, this is a lie
>>18341589Not an argument, Chang
>>18341581>>>/lgbt/
