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Why do Christians/religious people find it hard to accept that homosexuality, same-sex attraction, transgenderism etc are inborn traits, despite the overwhelming evidence?

Why do they focus so intensely on homosexuality as something uniquely evil or demonic?

After all, people are born with all kinds of physical and/or mental traits, conditions, abnormalities etc, some people are literally born trannies
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>>18351609
They're not, though.
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>>18351613
I think xe/xir is talking about intersex and confusing intersex with trans.
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To get my biases out of the way I am a bisexual man.

It’s because most gay people are freaks dude. So much work was done to get people to see us as normal and as soon as a decent proportion of the population thinks that what do they do? They go out in public and shove dildos up their asses in front of kids. It’s infuriating. Have you ever tried to a date a gay guy? Absolute hedonistic goblins with aids is like half of them. Fucking Grindr has to have a portion of your bio stating if you’re HIV+ and what’s worse is you have to specify if you’re taking meds to not pass it on. People are really out here advertising that they can give you aids and people are into it. It’s fucking disgusting. I’m not a self hate type of guy but I can’t blame some people for hating us. It’s like a normal well adjusted black dude interacting with some yn’s. It’s embarrassing and gross. I tried to date a trans girl once and the fucker tried to get me to watch cp. This fucking creep asked me if I ever tried anything with my at the time underage sister. The only thing stopping me from killing the piece of shit was the hate crime charge.
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>>18351609
Tranny men who dress up like women will lie to a man to have sex. That's not something a real woman would ever have to do. Only a man would lie to get laid.
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>>18352706
I had a girl use me sex once. I think it was really the attention she wanted. It made me feel a little for women cause that happens to them so much more often than it does to us. I have no point here. Thank you for reading my blog.
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>>18352701
I'm bi and this is my experience, too. I want to cope and think that pride parade, public sex-having, AIDS infected pedophiles are a minority. Most fags I meet are total degenerates. I wonder if it's because it's the first time that homosexuality is close to openly accepted, and because people don't feel like they have to repress it, they feel like they don't have to temper themselves in any way, or turn sexuality into their hobby which naturally dominoes into further and further sexual degeneracy. I HOPE there are plenty others like me who aren't too enthusiastic about their sexuality and have at least some decency and basic virtuous self restraint. If I'm wrong, then faggotry may just be an actual pathology.
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>>18352726
I think for gay dudes specifically it’s because they don’t have to attract women and let the power level out and fall into depravity. Having to be normal enough to attract women keep many men in check socially
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>>18351609
I was just going to make a thread about this.
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>>18351609
the key word is abnormality.
people are born with advantages and disadvantages. the christian view is that homosexual proclivities are not spiritually advantageous.
i think people who disagree either reject spirituality outright or lack the depth of awareness necessary to understand the problem.
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Was /his/ always this gay?
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>>18351609
Nobody is born a tranny and nobody is naturally homosexual. They have turned their backs on God and tried to deny their knowledge of Him to the point that they begin to do self-destructive things which are against nature in rebellion against God’s design.
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>>18351609
Because the jews have nightmares of the searing sodomy they experienced at the hands of Babylonians and Assyrians
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>>18352857
Only after the atheists started showing up from reddit
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>>18351609
>After all, people are born with all kinds of physical and/or mental traits, conditions, abnormalities etc, some people are literally born trannies
This is consistent with the Calvinist view of Predestination.
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>>18352701
Epstein invented trannys and gayparades and gay femininity are all jewish psyops. The only real homosexuality is male and masculine
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>>18352870
It is not consistent with the Calvinist view of God or scripture
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>>18352875
?
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I don't really get why the notion of someone being born homosexual would even be against Christian worldview. Everyone is born as a sinner. Some people are naturally more prone to violence, substance abuse and otherwise harming other people and themselves. It is both reasonable and theologically consistent to also accept that some people are born more likely to act out homosexuality as part of their own inherently sinful natures. Why would sexuality be the exception where everyone is born without tendency to sexual sins?
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>>18352726
When you say bi, do you mean actual bi or "I watched a bunch of trans and femboy porn and now I can only get off to effeminate guys" bi?
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>>18353093
First guy, actually bi. I’ve dated actual men.
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>>18353093
I have had sex with both men and women.
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>>18352726
>. I HOPE there are plenty others like me who aren't too enthusiastic about their sexuality and have at least some decency and basic virtuous self restraint. If I'm wrong, then faggotry may just be an actual pathology.

There are others but you're the outliers. Modern day homosexuality was degenerate from the start. For the most part it was mature men with young boys that didn't resemble men, it was pederasty. Not really homosexuality at all, as it wasn't like-with-like. This is what Harry Hay and his club represented.

The more innocent form of homosexuality is more like sexualized friendship, and it was never common, except in its much milder nonsexual but physical forms which were still considered platonic. This was pushed more toward sexuality in an attempt to ditch the perverse pederasts, around the 90s. The sheer awfulness of women nowadays tends to push men towards each other, as well.

Unfortunately the emptiness of homosexual sex (it can never create) tends to become mentally troubling, so homosexuality tends to evolve toward friendship, or toward degenerate behavior and promiscuity.

I think it is actually a cultural pathology, but at it's more innocent end it is hardly worse than friendship, certainly less bad at this end than habitual masturbation, its main downfall being that fundamental emptiness.
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>>18351609

> despite the overwhelming evidence?

Because all the studies that support this notion are deeply flawed and have been conducted by researchers who are looking to rationalize their own perversions.

>Why do they focus so intensely on homosexuality as something uniquely evil or demonic

Because the Bible is very clear on the issue of homosexuality. It's unnatural and self-destructive; it's sex for pleasure and not procreation.

>some people are literally born trannies

People born inter-sexed are less than 1% of the population, and non-profit organizations centered around the medical condition acknowledged that there are only two sexes. The trannies you're thinking about are made, not born.

>>18353181

>Unfortunately the emptiness of homosexual sex (it can never create) tends to become mentally troubling,

It does create, but unnaturally. Homosexuality is a memetic virus; it replicates through acts of sexual violation by older men preying upon younger boys. The gays who are in positions of influence in media have propagandized to the public that this fetish is some type of inborn trait, and that kids know that they're gay from a young age. That is an outright falsehood, and when you speak to most gay men, they will universally state that they were introduced into the homosexual lifestyle through an older man.
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>>18352726
My theory is that most fags are simply oversexualized and have let their drive for sexual gratification become their driving force in their life, probably due to some sort of demonic influence, ultimately. Trannies tend to be a more extreme version of this. This is the main reason why they are so promiscuous. The reason they go after adult men, rather than women or underage people, is not so much because they prefer men, but rather because other men like themselves are simply the most readily available with the least work required.
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>>18351609
faggots were molested as kids that's why they get that way
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>>18353294
Most trannies are socially awkward nerds that internalised self hatred and spite into the world into a hatred of all things male, and in our abundant, gynocentric comfort laden 21st century society, correctly observed that women have an easier go of things. Thus they took the plunge to feminise themselves in the pursuit of happiness and social acceptance. It rarely works though, and just leads to the poisoning of their minds and bodies with synthetic hormones as they sink further into the abyss of degeneracy, loneliness and despair. A tragedy all round. Millions of young men of this generation have just been wiped out by it.
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>>18352701
At what age was your first sexual encounter with the same sex and was it consensual?
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>>18354010
19. Yes.
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>>18351609
Why would something being an "inborn trait" make it socially acceptable?
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>>18352857
I mean it is called /his/ and not /her/
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>>18352701
men are freaks by biological nature and gay culture enables it simply because its a bunch of men freaking with each other instead of men obsessing over women who are much less interested. but yes it is disgusting, very difficult to date as a gay person who isnt like this and wants a serious relationship and absolutely colors the reputation of gay people, not helped by the liberal mindset of intentionally avoiding integration and shoving pride for degenerate lifestyles down everyone's throat
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>>18354047
100% Having to attract a woman precludes the freakish lifestyle so many of them enjoy.
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>>18351609
>Why do Christians/religious people find it hard to accept that homosexuality, same-sex attraction, transgenderism etc are inborn traits, despite the overwhelming evidence?
Because they refuse to look at the evidence and besides even if they did try to do some research they are already in Algo hell and will be directed to right wing think tanks and pseuds

>Why do they focus so intensely on homosexuality as something uniquely evil or demonic?
Because they aren't allowed to own slaves or do pogroms anymore and they need someone to other so it may as well be queers. Its a dehumanization tactic they have been doing for millenia, call people demonic say they rape and murder children. Its all just blood libel and people need to stop pretending blood libel only effects the Jews.

>After all, people are born with all kinds of physical and/or mental traits, conditions, abnormalities etc, some people are literally born trannies

Oh this is actually the central issue, they take Genesis literally or metaphorically to mean every person, fetus, downie to be born perfect according to Yahwehs perfect plan. That means trying to change anything is going against Yahwehs plan.

Note they dont take any other part of leviticus seriously like the bits about not mixing fabrics and shellfish, they dont actually believe they are all perfect or they wouldn't get cancer removed, wear glasses, dye their hair or get fake tits. At the end of the day this is all just an excuse to hate queers because they need to hate someone and it's way easier to blame us than achnowledge that the Catholic Church, SBC, Mormons and other big ones all got busted fucking children, all got busted hiding it and in the CC's case they also got busted enslaving single moms and dumping their dead children in mass Graves next to latrines (Ireland)
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>>18354324
Im going to contrast Genesis shit with Hellenic polytheism

In Hellenic polytheism we are all made as the gods made us, imperfect but glorious.
Prometheus didn't just make straight people he also decided to make more people, Dionysus got him shitfaced and then he mixed bodies parts, bodies and minds creating LGBTQI people. It should be noted also that while the Hellenic faith looked at transgenderism as a bit of a curse they also thought it gave them a wider perspective on the world that led to them counseling mortals and Gods (Tiresias with Zeus and Hera)
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>>18352701
>People are really out here advertising that they can give you aids and people are into it.
Yep. It's called "bug chasing" kek. Fags would be really funny if they weren't such a biohazard. (it's still funny, just sobering as well)
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>>18352706
You know FtM trans people exist too, right?
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>>18351613
>>18352864
>>18353259
>>18353958
So why is it correlated with digit ratio? And why are identical twins separated at birth way more likely than population base rate to be gay if the other is?
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>>18352871
>Epstein invented trannys and gayparades
Lili Elbe transitioned before Epstein was born, and the first pride parade was held in 1970, when Epstein was 17 years old. Doubt he was influencing much then.
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>>18354461
People are fully aware they exist but those people do not act deranged. So nobody cares. In the same way that nobody cares about lesbians because they act normal.
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>>18352706
Because getting sex is easier for a woman than it is for a man. Unfortunately this is contradictory, as women only have one uterus and men have unlimited sperm. Black men have the right idea when it comes to hoes.
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>>18352869
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>>18353149
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>>18354488
They still hide their birth sex.
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>>18354488
Lesbians tend to have attitude problems from dick deprivation
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>OP image made me realize I might have Klinefelter's
I'm going to mcfucking kms
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>>18352857
As long as shareblue and reddit have been trying to infiltrate. Funny how the op tried to wedge troonism in there.

Homosexual tendencies are present in 2-10% of mammalian populations but even in animals it's clearly degenerate, power-move type behavior.

Transgenderism is 20 year trend and the entire fucking world has had just about enough of it. We're tired of a bunch of obvious pedophiles trying to groom kids, denying reality, gaslighting, and shitting all over natural science.
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>>18354461
They aren't pedophiles or predators. They're just girls going along with trends. Middle and high schools are absolutely full of them and they drop it when the hormones hit hard. A very few make it to adulthood, but it doesn't bother anyone...because they aren't predators.
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>>18352869
>Only after the atheists started showing up from reddit
Fuck off. /his/ was always athiest/pagan territory. Your judeo-christian rat horde only arrived later
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>>18354472
Why do identical twins not always have an identical sexual orientation if the cause of sexual orientation is genetic?
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>>18354708
>t. fresh off the r/atheism boat
We used to have regular theological discussions before atheists vomited onions all over them, you are the cancer that is killing /his/, professing atheism should get you a ban
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>>18354609
Neither are most MtFs, you just hear about the few who are.
>>18354711
So evidently it's not 100% fixed by genes. That's still strong evidence that biology is at least a major factor. (Also epigenetics is a thing.)
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>>18354766
>That's still strong evidence that biology is at least a major factor
Or the pattern is illusory. Homosexuality is a moral evil, not a biological characteristic.
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>>18354773
>Or the pattern is illusory.
So why do twins separated at birth have a 50% chance of being gay, 5 to 10 times the population base rate?
>Homosexuality is a moral evil, not a biological characteristic.
Are those incompatible? Wrath is a moral evil, but there are clearly genetic factors contributing to being prone to anger issues. Alcohol abuse is a moral evil, but there are clearly genetic factors contributing to likelihood of alcoholism. And so on.
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>>18351609
>>>/sci/
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>>18354777
>So why do twins separated at birth have a 50% chance of being gay, 5 to 10 times the population base rate?

If a study is claiming that the base rate is 5-10%, that study is post scientific bullshit from the start. There are conclusions no longer allowed to science thanks to the pederast lobby.

If there is any increased prevalence of homosexuality in separated twins, it is probably due to childhood trauma or worse. Twins born in stable families don't get separated at birth.
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>>18351609
>>18352691
X0 (Turner's) and XXY (Klinefelter's) are not "born trannies". Stop bastardising basic biology.
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>>18354822
So why is it that if the other twin isn't gay they don't have noticeably elevated likelihood to be, but if they are they're far more likely?
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>>18354708
Damn you sound like a pidor pretending this is a prorussian board, kys no ome gives a shit about your views and gaslighting.
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>>18354831
yeah, that's what gives putin sleepless nights, a bunch of closeted christbeaners seething about faggots



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