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Sinning against the Christian God is impossible. Any amount of sin a human being commits is nothing in comparison to God. The Bible even acknowledges this:
> I would like to reply to you (Job) and to your friends with you (Eliphaz, Zophar, and Bildad). Look up at the heavens and see; gaze at the clouds so high above you. If you sin, how does that affect him? If your sins are many, what does that do to him? … Your wickedness only affects humans like yourself.
And immediately after, God himself shows up and absolutely agrees. Therefore, the infernalist and annihilationist argument about "sinning against an infinite being warrants an infinite punishment" is both logically unsound, since crime against God is an oxymoron in the first place, as well as a completely anti-scriptural position.
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David said that he sinned against the Lord for betraying Uriah.
The Lord forgave him, so he would not die for breaking the Law of Moses.
Which prescribed the death penalty for an act of murder. Even the murder of a foreigner, or resident alien since they too are under the protection of the law.

Uriah was of David's own house no less, probably his most loyal retainer when you consider what would happen later due to Absalom.
But God took his first born son instead, the ill begotten, because David had given the enemies of faith reason. In that, his conduct was deeply offensive and an embarrassment to the Lord.

In short, you're not actually understanding this properly.
A man's wickedness cannot afflict God, nor does his righteousness benefit God.
But God, in his dominion, renders unto the proud and brings them low.

When men and nations breach the covenant God makes with them, they incur the penalties.
Not because God has lost anything, but because it is just and right.
This is why Israel was given over to Assyria, for example. Why Adam dies. And it's why Jesus warns men not to stray from the way of life, because the fate of the rich man who forgot Lazarus is not one you want for yourself or others. For there is a great gulf fixed, which is impassible to the spirits in both directions.
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Because you and I have had this conversation before, I will save everyone lots of time and effort and call upon you to finally admit you do *not* believe the new heavens and earth, together with the new life promised to his faithful, will last forever.
That, like this world, it will eventually pass away.

That the *glorified* bodies that they are promised to received, will eventually cease to exist too.
Even though the glory of God is eternal, has always existed and will always exist. The same glory which it is written the Son and the Father shared since before the foundation of the world.

Because you deny that the same word used both to identify the unfathomable length of this same life, and in the same verse IIRC damnation in the fires prepared for the devil and his angels, actually means eternal.
You labor under the delusion that this word means "age" or "eon". Eon being a rough transliteration into English.

Meaning, God will perpetuate suffering forever with new creation after new creation. Reincarnation under the cloak of Christianity, even the perennial philosophy of the occultists masquerading as orthodoxy. "New Age" belief systems all flow from this same unchristian root.

That it doesn't really matter if you mourn while the pipers are playing, or dance while the drums beat.
Because you'll just get another chance next time. That's not the call to repentance in the here and now, in this world and this life, not the next one.

Because the world to cone is qualitatively different than this one, in that it truly does have no end.
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This place would suck a lot less if Hiroshima banned religious discussion to /pol/ or something. It's nothing but reddit atheists and religious schizophrenics arguing with each other
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>>18539939
The cause of it all is the mods allowing obviously underage posters here and even supporting them by ignoring them spamming the catalog. Before it was all this religious stuff it used to be haplo autism which was equally insufferable.
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>>18539939
midwit triggered by inconvenient content

please refer to the sticky
this *is* the containment board for religious *discussion* not preaching, because if there was an actual /rel/ then you would *very* quickly have a holy flame war on your hands that would make the old times look kind of quaint, would definitely draw in even more newfriend prostletizers in a recurrent feedback loop which would eventually affect the entire site

the entire reason this board shit itself and died is because shills were triggered by *certain* topics that were elaborated uppn, and spammed the catalogue with hundreds of godjaks and assorted christ hate threads per day for years
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>>18539952
No, mods were complicit in the damage control spam and you probably know it.

Nice detail attempt.
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>>18539954
It's not "containment board" newfag, it's just a board. The rules allowing religion threads didn't mean religion posting being spammed everywhere. The reason /his/ has declined so much is because of all of it.
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>>18539956
The mods were complicit in both sides spamming the catalog.
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>>18539954
I never said that hiroshima should make a /rel/ board retard, learn how to read you sub 80 iq nigger
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it's notable that both of you suddenly appear to not contribute to the thread topic at all, but merely to bitch and moan
as of you have nothing better to do than complain about people liking things you don't like

you're the reason this board is garbage tier, and belongs in the >>>/trash/ and to the trash man

>>18539962
There was never any real religion spam.
This is a fantastic lie you're going to repeat because it's necessary for you to justify that objectively debased perfidy and cancer which obvious shills perpetuated day in and day out in front of everyone who bothered to glance here.

Just triggered shills trying to push threads where actual discussion was available off the board. Or drown them in an innundation of hateful and intellectually empty bile.

When Christians (basically the only religious group using this board for long form debate and discussion) made just a few threads they would easily hit the bump limit over several days.
They literally never made 50 threads in a few hours because of a discord coordinated damage control effort which never got more than 20 replies.

>>18539957
/pol/ is a containment board
/his/ is too, for religion though
religion is not politics, it doesn't really belong on /pol/

>reason /his/ has declined so much is because of all of it
no, religion threads constitute some of /his/ best on topic material ever next to the old Venice threads

what caused the decline was a deliberate and coordinated attempt to deplatform religious discussion through sheer slide
and seeing this, the startlingly few old friends where actually content posted decided to fuck off

turns out, you're not here forever after all
who would have thought
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don't want to be too harsh on you, it's partially my fault too
but I was *never* involved with the coordinated spamming campaigns which absolutely totaled this shithole of a board

I was one of the people who originally popularized haploautism here. Maybe haplogroup F* posting rings a bell.
And I was also the one who started making noise about the LXX, a couple years after I realized autosomal DNA models are fucking stupid and while the global PCA is kind of neat, it doesn't have much predictive validity. The entire field of archaeogenetics has massive blind spots people aren't willing to reckon with.

The Tarim Basin mummies ANE results only registered as a little blip on this board because most people, like me, had since moved on. Moreover, these results were highly inconvenient to some of the more prolific liars.
Though I still wish the Denisovan and Neanderthal hybrid discoveries had more recognition for their absolute repudiation of the "replacement hypothesis" and the import that has for implications.

My interests did organically evolve, and I put certain hateful things behind me.
I deeply regret some of the evil and mean spirited things I used to say to anons. I got really mad sometimes, it was a hard time for me in many ways. In that sense, I was absolutely trolled for years. Maybe that's a double edged sword.
Can never really make up for that, just put it behind me for good.
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>>18539994
>but merely to bitch and moan
Like you're doing by replying?
There are multiple christian threads already in the catalog and they get spammed every other day
>There was never any real religion spam.
Yes there was and your lies won't change that. In a year or two you'll leave this board like the haplo niggers did so your lies won't last anyway

>/his/ is too, for religion though
Where have the mods ever described this as a containment board? Are there rules prohibiting history or other humanities from being posted elsewhere? m00t didn't want to make /his/ for the opposite reason, he didn't want another board that could be used for politics as he thought it would increase problems rather than contain anything
> some of /his/ best on topic material
No they don't

>what caused the decline
was the mods allowing a small percentage of the userbase to spam the catalog with threads they like and drive away good posters



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