>>2674868
You mean you went and got married and had kiddos and then later figured out you want to be a gay bottom?

>>2674868
Just start talking about sex and prod him about his past experience and it will set the mood and atmosphere for something to happen.

bump

bump

>>2674878
This is the safest bet, a nice chat with som beers, it will take some time but it might do it, tell him about your own urges too.

>>2674868

The first step is to wait until your kids grow up and move out.

>>2674868
>how do I cheat on my wife with a friend and not fuck everything up
by not cheating on your wife with your friend

if you're not willing to lose it, don't risk it in the first place.

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>>2674868
>I could install Grindr on my phone and find a dick to suck within five minutes
>or I could throw away my marriage and ruin my relationship with my best friend
>obviously, the latter option is the only suitable one

>>2674868
you should practice on me first

>>2675569
Show ur goods :)

>>2674868
Don't cheat on your wife dude.
It's not fair to her that you discovered you're into being a cock slut after getting married and kids.
Jerk to gay porn in secret but don't cross that line.

I was married. 16 year relationship.
Afterwards I let lots of dudes suck my cock.
Haven't even touched one myself. Lol

Now between gfs that's what I always do.
Always guys looking to just suck cock.
Even where I've gotten some of the best bj's ever!

>>2674868
Eh, I'm a literal gay that has been thirsting for cock desperately for years. Then when I finally got to, it was the most disappointing thing in my life. If you are straight, I'd recommend just trying to forget about it.

just probe your friend man, if you have some points in the talking department considering you got married and you're older now you should know how to lead conversations in that way


since you're both friends its way easier, but you just have to find that exact moment.


word of advice, do not do it to other men and only try to do it with this guy, the emotional guilt would still be heavy after if it is done but at least you'll have some insurance.


I personally think it would ruin the friendship or make it stronger, no middle ground. I hate it when a close friend does make advances on me (it all depends on the bond really, and attraction)... but I will root for you...


ganbatte

Go to a sleazy adult bookstore

Find a gloryhole booth

Put $20 into the machine

Suck big beautiful cocks for an hour

Go home and kiss your wife

That’s what I do

>>2674868
sauce?

>>2674868
>have wife
>have kids
>have stability most people cannot even dream of
>BUT CAWK THO

>>2678045
that's the life of a faggot, just a worse version of a man. they just always think using their small head instead of the huge one inside their skulls

>>2674868
This happens to a ton of people, they just don’t at on it.

Just go on Grindr and ask a guy to suck his dick to get it out of you

>>2674868
STOP it will ruin everything.
Install dating apps like Grindr and find someone to suck.

>>2678087
Seems like he's considering it but asking. That sounds like someone thinking.

>>2674868
Just forget about it. You've already scrubbed any fun or actual hotness out of it. You're approaching this like you are planning a family vacation, scheduled, choreographed, coordinated.

If you are even real, you probably only think about it when you wank it for whatever reason you aren't with your wife. The whole things smells so corny theres no point in bothering. If you weren't into it when you were a teen, you wasted the only years its actually fun and natural anyways. Anything gay after 22 is just degenerates and nutjobs larping.

Actually, I'm in a similar (kinda) position. I have a girlfriend, we've been together for 3 years now. We are very happy and everything is going fine.
But I'm currently chatting with a guy I met back in the day before my girlfriend, when I was a bit curious. I never did anything. We reconnected online and recently started chatting again. The guy is a 40-something bear, super cool, and he understands my situation. Some days we chat a lot, and obviously it turns into hot chats. Lately, he has started to push to meet irl, and I don't know what to do. I have zero experience with men and have always been curious, but on the other hand, I'm really happy with my girlfriend and I don't want to mess things up by accident.

>>2675751
based and good advice!

Dont be a fucking idiot OP, keep it as a fantasy - or if you're going to be a fucking moron, then go to some gay gloryhole and indulge in some anonymous blowing and NEVER tell anyone

Have a bump. I'm busy rn but will be back later to post my very relevant situation.

>>2674868
Did you ever do any stuff with guys before? Do you watch gay porn?

I'm going to get faggy here, but I am doing it for the sake of saving a marriage you're ruining.

Okay you want to suck dick. Who cares?
Do you want to

>kiss men?
>look into their eyes as you fuck them or they fuck you?

I am technically a bisexual man, even though in reality my attraction to men is more dominant. I am effectively gay. Women aren't gross to me, I lost my sexual function for them in my mid 20s, Im 32 now. I will not marry a woman because I know its not going to work, I will be getting fucked in the ass by other men and ruin the lives of my wife and potential children.

>>2682653
Best friend and I have been low key flirting with each other for the last 10 years. He's straight, been in a steady relationship all this time. I'm bi, fuck what I think is too many women. My body count is stupid high but occasionally hook up with another guy. Been years since last fag experience. Keep my sex life on the downlow. No one business what I do. I share some stuff with my friend no one knows half the shit I get up too

Friend tells me for last 2 years his sex life has dried up. Makes jokes about him & I hooking up. We talk about most shit really openly but I cant ask about these jokes. Seems like theres something more to them and it feels too real to ask
Realize I'm curious to go there. Decide if theres a right moment, I wanna cross the line with him.
Lots of internal debate. Don't wanna cause him conflict with his marriage. Don't want to fuck up friendship. But tension btwn us is huge. And all his jokes about having full nuts and how I should blow him, that he'll retirn but wont swallow- its driving me crazy

Month ago we are drunk and talking. He brings up his sad sex life. Ive had enough. I tell him-
> ok we are gonna be away for that work thing in a couple weeks. If you get no action between now and then, I'll suck your dick. I'm serious. I'm sick of hearing about it. I will blow you. Make it obvious I'm not mucking around.

He seems to sober up and is all, 'bro wtf, nah it's all bants. I don't want you to give me head bro'

> nah ffs. I'll do it as a one off. We don't talk about it after. Nothing faggy. Lights off. No speaking. No eye contact. Friendship stays intact.
Call it a night and leave it hanging

Over the weeks a couple little comments where he's dropping hints. I tell him again when we are away it's all on. He just gotta say the word and confirm he's down and I'll get on my knees for him. He seems to be thinking about it, considering it. I've made my peace with it and am starting to look forward to sucking him off

So----

>>2683005
Let us know how it goes anon

>>2683005
Should point out I'm in a great relationship with a woman. Sex is insanely good. But it's coming to an end as she has to go away.
I've already checked out and am focused on my friend and if this is gonna go ahead with him. So much going on in my head

Comes to fateful day. We are outta town. Sharing hotel room together. Nothing specifically said about my offer. I decide not push it. Just let days events unfurl, see what happens.
Mid afternoon already done everything we need to for the day. Go back to room with bottle of rum.
Start drinking. We have plans to go out that night. Go to a bar or two.
When we head out both of us buzzed. He makes a joke about how he feels like the woman. Pushes his ass to me and I slap it. Weird but I'll accept it. Seems like we are moving in that direction.
Have a great night out. Checking out chicks. Talking. One woman strikes up convo with us and he tells he to fuck off.

Get back to room. I'm thinking OK 'it's on'. Im lying on my bed hes standing right next to me undoes his belt. Takes his jeans off and gets into his bed. Shit feels real.
He are sitting on the edge of our separate beds facing each other. Leaning close into each other.

I resist the urge to make a move. Perfect moment to slip right onto my knees push him back and get into it.
We keep talking, flirting and he kills the light. We lie down in our beds and talk gets real. TV light is flickering in the room.
I say to him
> 'ok bro, you want that blow job now?'
What?
> I told you. I was gonna offer. Now we are here, I'm serious. I'll suck your cock
He goes quiet.
I'm thinking do I take charge and go for it, or wait for him to say the word and give consent
He finally says 'umm dont think I can. I don't think it's a good idea'
> you sure bro. We are here. I'll do it. Nsa. No one will ever know
I cant. We cant do this

Haha. All that flirting. The night out together. The jokes & signals right up until the light going off.
And when shit got real. He chickened out

>>2683007
>>2683008

It's so strange. All the mucking around. But when push came to shove he bailed out.
I get it. He thought it was a bridge too far. He's still in a relationship. I respect that.

We stayed in our separate beds and fell asleep.

In the morning we had breakfast in the hotel. He said everything was sweet. That we shouldn't be freaked out about what did or didn't happen. That our friendship remains tight.

I'm like - fist bump bro. But we both have blue balls. Haven't seen him since that day. We will be catching up in a couple weeks.

Dunno the moral of the story. Sometimes you put effort it. And get nowhere. Even when the other person was showing all signs and giving the right signals lol.
So frustrating haaaaa

>>2683009
Your mistake was verbally asking him, should have just went for it. Straight guys always chicken out when they have to verbalize their desires if that makes sense. He wants you to take the lead so that he has plausible deniability.

Just try again in a few weeks, I've been in a similar dynamic before lol.

>>2683013
You're so correct. It's obvious to me now. But I overthought it. There were 3 moments that night where he was giving me the green light. I fucked up. Even thought should I let him pretend to be asleep while I blow him? Talked myself out of it.

We gave history but both struggle to seal the deal. A couple years ago we felt each other's dicks in a car over our jeans. A stupid joke that escalated into 5 minutes of feeling each other up lol. Another time we were hugging (drunk long story) and he sighed put his head into my neck and told me how warm I felt. He sank into me. Another time in the street late at night he took his pants down bent over and showed me his ass.
All of these times he was drunk. Straight guys uggh

Will be a couple weeks when we see each other again. I think it's inevitable shits gonna happen. I'll report back itt.

Only way you should consider doing this is if you're going to tell your wife about it beforehand and ask permission.

>>2680986
>> “By accident”
not much of an accident if you’re sexting for years and then meet up.

>>2683031
>> “By accident”
By accident, i mean doing or making a decision in the heat of the moment. We haven't met yet IRL, but he is pushing to meet. I don't know what to do. Any advice?