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If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specific
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

Previous thread: >>7139539
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pimp my bug dot com
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first
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>>7141316
>>7141328
cute bugs, would collect
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I won’t be posting any art to this thread because I gave up art last October since you told me I was NGMI
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GOOD MORNING US-BEG
I HAVE A FEELING IT'S GONNA BE A WONDERFUL DAY
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Trying to draw without references a bit
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First time trying shading in a while. Thoughts?
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>>7141394
use ref
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Last WIP for the night
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>>7141373
I actually really dig the angularity of it.
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>>7141295
friendly reminder to improve shape language
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I force myself to draw for 20 minutes every day to engrain the habit and I don't know if I'm getting anywhere but it's probably a lot better than drawing for 0 minutes a day
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>>7141295
this is a masterpiece
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>>7141514
drawing is a mental skill, it's all useless if you didn't learn anything from your drawing session regardless of length
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I didnt consent to having my ugly as fuck shit in the OP, holy crap he looks like a zombie, I feel like zoomer/curly hair will always evade me.
Anyways, here's some lineart, I have no idea on lineart techniques or how to move on to colouring/shading that shit.
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>>7141427
My shape language is booba
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Sup beg, today it is lots of skulls. Still feels beg

>>7141514
you forgot to PYW anon
>>7141403
looks nice so far
>>7141402
put camera a little far away from canvas so it can actually focus properly
>>7141394
the idea is there, the execution is outright wrong on drapery
>>7141373
blocky booba
>>7141328
very nice bug
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>>7141295
another banger! good job LOL.
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>>7141358
Looks like a some rape porn concept
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>>7141556
Can you elaborate? How can I make the drapery look better?
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>>7141553
post shape language
let me see your shape language
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>>7141616
better shape language and 3D forms
drapery is all about those 2 things
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>>7141556
you should move to muscle and expressions because i see no point on making several skulls if you already get, even a little, the key points of shapes and prominent bones. You only need that to elaborate with the actual expression because the skull dont help much with their... dynamism. If you already understand that then you should just make fast key points on the sketchs to get the expression correctly. Unless you want let say... make figures with really marked bones in their faces, or skeletons, things like that. Also if you are actually interested in bones then you can build on that and try animal skulls.

>>7141394
the point of using the simple directional ligthing is that you need to be consistent to make it work, if you dont is not gonna look right, or, is not gonna contribute much with the colors.
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Couldn't finish this but I like how it came out so far
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Hello there fellow begfriends, I'm not sure how to approach the physics on these boobs that are getting pressured by a swimsuit, so a bit of help wold be very appreciated
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>>7141295
The other /beg and /int thread got archived, so I'll post this again here.
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>>7141659
For starters the cloth/swimsuit looks like 1 still piece of material, doesn't look soft at all, you need some bends in the cleavage
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Anyone have any tips for memory drawings?
My first time drawing from ref always turns out to be the best but i get deflated after seeing my ugly memory drawings and the subsequent copies also become worse.
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>>7141697
you might be tackling too much complexity at once
just look how many angles/planes that face has, it's normal to struggle keeping that much info in your head
try with simpler volumes/shapes
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heheheh
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rate
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>>7141684
>>7141659
>>7141705
Thanks a lot anons! I tried applying the advices here
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>>7141703
My visual library is shit and i want to start drawing complex things from imagination so i'll bang my head once more tomorrow but i'll keep your advice in mind if i get hardstuck.
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>>7141681
>>7141707
Tagged myself by accident before
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>>7141295
sup beg, does anyone know what this specific pose is called? Looking for references
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More stuff from imagination, trying out pen and ink too. I feel like I've gotten to a point where I need to not just do studies but have some fun with drawing, too.
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>>7141078
Ty anon, it's def faster to make things this way.
Only doing sketches for now because i'm too much of a pussy to make a fully completed work.
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>>7141714
Search "Pinup poses"
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>>7141706
head too small
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What's the process to coming up with your own stylized art style for drawing characters? I'm basically /beg/ still and I'd like to just sit down and pull up a picture of a person and come up with my own own way to draw eyes, hair, etc. But I doubt this is how people actually come up with their style. What was your process?
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Is there a good place to learn how to draw arms and legs? I draw bodies okay but I seem to have problems with making the limbs either too long or too short
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more hands

>>7141718
kino scene, looks like something from elden ring or skyrim
>>7141741
try to copy the style of your favorite artist, the thing is, you won't be able to copy it 100% and the result over time will become your own style
don't bother copying photos irl now
>>7141746
legs are half of the body and the arms reach the groins not counting the hands
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>>7141754
so arms and legs are basically the same length, minus the hands?
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>>7141757
No, because the legs, you count the length of the arms+ head and neck
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>>7141764
ah I didn't know you counted the head as "half the body", I got'cha now. Looks like the arms are about the length of the torso
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just how the fuck are you supposed to draw this pose
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Where can I find real-life hires references for clothes and dresses specifically? I want to draw maids and lolita-style girls, but google gives me shitty cheap cosplays in low res
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>>7141767
Gothic & Lolita Bible scans, professional pics from runway shows of brands.
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>>7141754
sexo.
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made his head smaller
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>>7141766
the angles and proportions are wrong
do more observational drawing first
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>>7141767
I usually have better luck searching by specific brands and setting the image size to large (under the Tools menu).
Runway photos tend to be nice and high res, so if you search [Brand Name] + [Season] + [Year] you can find some good refs that way as well (provided said brand does runway shows).
For lolita-style stuff specifically, I came across https://lolibrary.org/ which seems like it could be a decent resource. Seems to be a mixed bag in terms of res tho
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Random stuff I drew today. I’m having trouble drawing “depth.” As in portraying the concaveity of holes like eye sockets.
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>>7141778
>>7141789
Thanks bros
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Friendly reminder you don't need skill to make it.
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>>7141795
I'll be honest I don't get these posts I just want to feel satisfied knowing I'm comfortable with my art and not social validation from Twitter users who probably don't go outside
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>>7141766
my attempt
I followed the 3d model
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I know the relative proportions are off (the sphere is too wide/ovular), but I'm particularly interested in improving my shading in pencil. the lighter portion was drawn with 2H graphite, and the halftone and shadow in HB.
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https://www.twitch.tv/studio_trigger

pog
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>>7141766
Your drawing too messily and destroying any kind of readability, which you kinda want to be able to clearly see what mistakes need fixing. You can't do that if you can't even tell what is a genuine mistake vs just shit smear. Two, your kinda over exaggerating everything. Her leg doesn't need to be that wavy to get down the core forms, and whether or not you want that kinda exaggeration as your "style" you can more easily refine those shapes later after the core forms are down. And lastly, i think you're too focused and tunnel visioned about all the exact forms the subject is built of but neglecting to think about the basic proportions of those shapes and forms. A hammer is a box and a cylinder but if the box is smaller then the cylinder it's not gonna read as a hammer.
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last week's practice, no more copies I think I'll focus on memory drawing exercises now.
hopefully practicedrawingthis.com workbook is good
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>>7141820
it was a 15 second sketch, you're treating it as if it's a finished work
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>>7141831
Mine was a 60 second sketch, you're not treating it with enough intention.
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>>7141820
overall you're right, i literally know nothing about proportions and gave up on studying them, there is virtually no progress unlike forms, perspective and construction
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>>7141841
For the love of god tell me those are tentacles and are about to rape her.
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>>7141844
Sorry, no; she consents.
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>>7141846
Even better.
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whatever, here's my shitstain version, at least i had some fucking fun
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>>7141848
However, the tentacle monster did not consent. He did not want to participate in her sexual demands. She has caged this monster and abuses him, forcing him to perform vile acts on and in her body or he does not get fed. She rapes tentacle monster daily. But he will have his revenge. Soon.
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>>7141851
I will be very disappointed if nobody draws titcow on tentacle monster rape.
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>>7141766
another way to check if you understood it's form as 3d shapes is to to turn it around, move the eye level, etc
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>>7141858
Not him but I can barely draw the fucking figure by sight-size/observation and you want me to Blendermaxxxxx?
I mean, I kneel to anyone with those skills but come on nigga.
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>>7141858
I am never making it.
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>>7141858
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Tucking around with character designs.
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i require some help with the face
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>>7141862
observation is important too, but it's easier to check if you 'got it' or not, by simply overlaying the ref
in construction, it's harder to see if you truly 'got it' or are just faking it (by copying), thus my suggestion of turning the form
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>>7141846
>>7141851
this is fanfic :\
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>>7141888
What?
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>>7141927
observation is important too, but it's easier to check if you 'got it' or not, by simply overlaying the ref
in construction, it's harder to see if you truly 'got it' or are just faking it (by copying), thus my suggestion of turning the form
>Captcha: HAM[TA]R0
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>>7141817
You need a larger range of pencils if you want to accurately capture those shadows. You're not going to get dark enough marks with an HB. The darkest parts of your reference need at least a 6B
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>>7141862
>constructs with simple forms, still manages to fuck up the perspective on the floor
> make the ass and neck and head flat and wonky
>figure somehow even more stiff than the 3d model
sasuga, you are somehow worse than the french guy trying to be a worse version of TryLsc lol
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>>7141907
>>7141851
>>7141851
https://twitter.com/1Zzz1010/media
Now you gotta pay the fee of liek commenting and subscribing for your lord and saviour :-]
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>>7141394
I like it anon. Bloggu?
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>>7141907
hmmmm i think i get it thanks for the lines
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>>7141809
heh
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>>7142007
you lost the more dynamic tilt of the back and stiffened the pose a bit
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>>7141809
3d model pose is already stiff and awkward, point was to follow the model, your arm will not bend like that
best thing you can do for this exercise is just the perspective,model's arms and hands are fucked to begin with, same with anons drawing
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>>7141991
>all those cool space and mechs drawings
>only 7 followers
man stuff like that is really disheartening
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>>7142018
What's worse is that he's still in the same spot skill wise and doesnt post most of better sci fi work on the twitter weirdly enough
Not that it matters, not enough skill or appeal to pop off in this day and age on twitter anyways thank you mister elon
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>>7142007
>hurdurr finished artwork is so much better than a brainless sketch hurrdurr
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>>7142002
It wasn't a suggestion; I do stuff to do something, not because I know the correct way. but if it somehow helps with what you were doing in some way, then it's even better.
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>>7142020
yeah honestly kinda sadge.... the sci fi shit look epic, especially the sexy astronaut and robot girls tcombined with the Sparth inspired ships could be a banger combo with the right care
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>>7142023
fail
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>>7142023
Damnit wrong guy, i meant to reply to
>>7142018
I hate phone posting
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>>7141991
I want to follow you, but then you'd know I browse /ic/, and I don't want you doxxing me on here.

I'm gonna bookmark your page and follow you when you get past 1k followers, which I'm sure you'll hit in no time. Your art is top notch, really
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>>7142062
I haven't used Twitter for like a year. So, following or whatever makes no sense. It's just a silly stalker or subu don't know what it is supposed to mean. :/
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>>7141295
Thread creating anon, you're fucking goated.
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>>7141544
draw a consistent but think outline on the outside of the drawing and it will help. You should consider changing her right arm to a different pose
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I hate no hands and no draws.
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>>7141358
seconds before rough sweaty gay sex
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>>7141858
I WILL NEVER MAKE IT
I WILL NEVER MAKE IT
I WILL NEVER MAKE IT
I WILL NEVER MAKE IT
I WILL NEVER MAKE IT
I WILL NEVER MAKE IT
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>>7141991
What is this for? And how did you get so good?
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>>7141754
Hey thanks, this is >>7141718
>>7141373. Your stuff is great, I love the line weights and the facial stylization. You got a discord or anything? I'd be interested to chat and maybe talk about where you like to get your references from.
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>>7142140
well we hate you, faggot.
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>>7142140
I hate myself too, now what?
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Plague again this board with h*mestuck finished piece
Jesus i'm stagnating(even if i'm having fun and fun is bad ) so time to start making anatomy notes when i can still save myself in year 3 of my career
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Fucked it up the first time, as always. Will need to redo and try again.
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>>7142261
>Will need to redo and try again.
That's where the real improvement begins!
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Is drawing boxes, cylinders and triangles really gonna make me better at drawing?
I can see that many real life objects can be simplified with those three shapes, but is it really that simple?
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>>7141295
another banger OP, you're probably the only good thing left about this board
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>>7142272
Can you draw anything if you can't draw those three effortlessly really? Simple shapes come help as a crutch. You will make do without them later, but they will still be useful when you have something weird to draw, that you don't understand, so you simplify again.
Also you can be creative with any form. Try drawing them differently, bend them, cut them in half, cut out pieces of them, rotate them, make box, cylinder, pyramid characters, or stack them together. Not so simple really.
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>>7141373
how did you learn composition anon
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>>7142290
nta but i have aphantasia I need drawalong streams for stuff like this do you have any
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This is what I was able to pull off today.
Basically this was a preliminary for a commission someone wants me to do. So I decided to try and nail down how she looked but in a more anime like art style.

Granted, it doesn't look exactly like her, but prior to this I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to draw her properly, and since I was quite tired and still recovering from a bad week it was frustrating, but after a while I got the hang of it and I think I got her looking "okay" enough that I felt satisfied. The client was also happy with how I drew her too.

I realised that I really need to learn how to draw eyes and noses and so on and so forth, I had to use an anime eye reference sheet for the eye shape, as drawing her realistic eye shape just didn't really work...doesn't help that my brush was too thick which made capturing the shape almost impossible until I lowered it, and then it became easier to do.

I sadly won't do anymore today as my drawing glove has gotten too sticky and I need to wash it, and I just wanna do other stuff, but I would like to hear some critiques if possible.
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>>7142072
likely the latter, he's a notorious faggot after all. months of siccing soda to shit up the board because he can't stand getting crits. I wouldn't be surprised he's doing that as some inane way to try to crab you.
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>>7141328
ayy saw you in that beetle thread a while back! Adding another beetle here
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>>7142291
I have no idea, I mostly drew floating people until just now.
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What I'm currently working on. Trying to make a new OC.
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>>7141684
I see your art and you are pretty good, do you get commissioned often?
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>>7142309
On that note, anyone got any specific anime drawing books that are really good? I feel I really could benefit from one at this point.

A .pdf would be helpful.
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>>7142353
I like drawing manga faces and expressions, but to learn art I think that it’s better to use plenty of different books and references at the same time to build your own study plan
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>>7142358
>drawing manga faces and expressions
Any download links?
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THIS TIME FOR SURE GUYS I SWEAR

I WILL MAKE IT THIS TIME AROUND MY ANIME SLOP WILL BE MADEEEE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>7142274
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Any tips on how to paint skin and drapery? I'm having problems
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Is it a good idea to try picking up drawing when I'm already struggling with burnout and depressive tendencies (probably not actual MDD but I can't get diagnosed anyway)? I just veg out on the couch after work now, and trying to draw even for just 5 minutes daily without breaks is proving to be a challenge. I feel like I really do want to be able to draw, just not sure if I actually want it enough. If I did, I probably would've been drawing already, right?
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how do I draw like this
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how do I draw like this?
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>>7142575
be french
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>>7142571
be japanese
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Just bee yourself
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when do you know you should give up
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>>7142432
>If I did, I probably would've been drawing already, right?
it's not just about the quantity of your want, but the quality as well. you may want something very intensely but think it impossible to achieve, for instance; in other words, a futile passion. you, though - and correct me if I'm wrong - don't seem completely hopeless. so perhaps it simply is a matter of the degree of your desire.
>Is it a good idea to try picking up drawing when I'm already struggling with burnout and depressive tendencies?
there are people better than I to make an educated guess, but I would guess that it depends on the person. there are some people who feel drained in the current hum-drum of their life and would greatly benefit from a hobby that brings them joy. but depending on your specific state, maturity, etc., you could exacerbate your negative emotions when you try to draw and end up hating everything you create. the only way to figure out the answer to your question is to try it out yourself.
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>>7142622
Entirely dependant personal resolve.
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What books do i go through in order to be able to draw silly jojo-esque dynamic poses.
The ability to do that is like 80% of what i want from art.
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>>7142261
your heads are way too big
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>>7142650
Do What Araki did, read and study some fashion magazines likes vouge
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drawing this thingy upside down kinda hard
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>>7142653
That's crazy, i don't think i can do that.
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Hello, a returning /beg/ here.
I'm interested in drawing humans. What is the go to bible type book for that?
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realised today that the morpho book on fabrics is kinda shit unless you want to draw men in suits (i do not)
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To the anon who requested a banana cat last thread:

Could not do it. Genuinely too hard. Tried to get the banana itself and couldn't do it in 30 minutes with a reference. Same for the cat itself.

I have been beaten and am considering quitting for good.
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>>7142661
https://www.amazon.ca/How-Draw-Manga-Katy-Coope/dp/0439317452
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>>7141996
@1_glitchycent on xitter.
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>>7142675
>how to draw manga
>western female name
I don't even have to open the link to know this is bait.
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>>7142677
Are you active in like niche ss13 circles or is it just a coincidence that you're both glitchycents.
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Will i get anything of worth out of Loomis Figure Drawing as an absolute beginner?
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How do you gesture draw?
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>>7142701
there is plenty to take away, but whether you will depends on you not the book
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is this jak' worthy?
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>>7142719
I'll try my best but i'm at a really low level of skill and i have no talent so i might just be wasting my time.

I'll give it a try, though.
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How valuable is copying for someone who's a complete beginner?
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>>7142312
>>7142072
>posting on 4chan constantly, suddenly surprised when people track him down
I'm a big stalker fan thats all :D
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>>7142723
one of the worst things you can do is work through a small portion of a book and jump to the next because you're unsure of your progress, and then do that again and again and again. I'm not saying you'll do that, but that is a trend for beginners (and was something I've done myself) just try to vet what you're consuming and earnestly try to take from it what you can. the good thing about books is that they'll always be there to go back to. don't feel like you got all of the info on your first read but you did get some good bits here and there? well, if you want you can move onto something else. and if you wanna go back and learn some more, you got the book at your fingertips (physically or digitally).
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I can't draw fucking anything. I'm trying my best but i don't even know where to begin and what to do. The sticky isn't helpful at all.

I don't want it to be over before it even began but i just can't do shit.
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>>7142725
It's the most valuable thing you can do as a beginner
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>>7142422
nigga whart drapery are you talking about shes literally naked with just a bikini
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>>7142730
Read Keys to Drawing
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>>7142733
I'll go copy some stuff then, because i can't do anything at all for now.

Feel free to give me anything to copy. I'll go copy some stuff of my own rn though.
i wish learning this shit was easier. I genuinely couldn't do a thing so far
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>>7142735
I've gotten filtered by KtD on three seperate occasions but alright. Number 4 here we go.
I'm just gonna pretend i haven't read it once yet
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>>7142352
answer is yes and no
yes in the fact that somebody will request him to do something for like 50 or a 100 dollars for doing a drawing. no in the fact that these commissions happen like, once a month if ever. So 50 bucks a month max, so basically no. you need to be much better to earn a living from art these days
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>>7142737
copy it as abstract shapes, don't think about the subject
flip it upside down if necessary
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>>7142744
You gave me a hard one goddamn
I can barely do the picasso thing but alright i'll try.
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>>7142730
@hidechannel2

Start with the boxes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Ej9EIlfoc
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>>7142750
>>7142744
Attempt 1 failed. I instantly fucked up the distance between those angled boxy shapes near the head and that ring looking thing.

This really is a hard one.

>>7142751
I don't know japanese. What do people mean with "do boxes" exactly. Is there some unified learning system involving basic shapes or do they literally mean that i should bruteforce boxes in different perspectives.
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is there like a repository of things worth copying? I don't want to do it with the things i like because i respect them too much to produce shitty copies.
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KtD is kicking my ass again. I'm gonna post hand drawings in a bit to get an opinion.
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>>7142758
>KtD is kicking my ass
what chapter(s)/idea(s) specifically?
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>>7142765
Nta but probably chapter 1 since he mentioned his hands.
>>7142758
I usually don't think when drawing nor do I overthink, my advice is to turn off your mind and follow the instructions. I'll post my work soon for chapter 1 hopefully it'll motivate you
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>>7142765
>what chapter(s)/idea(s) specifically?
The hand, the thing i started on since i don't have any shoes on hand for the very first thing.
I fail at seeing and my knowledge of how it's supposed to look is lackluster either so it just ends up looking like nothing.

I'll try again.
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>>7142769
Hey anon, I'm a 74 day beg beginner artist. This was my first ktd project.

It's going to look bad no matter what. It's like what my goat chief keef said
"I be producing 1000 shitty beats till I get the right one" you're gonna have to keep pushing cus you're a beginner and shouldn't put that much torment on yourself

That being said I need to complete chapter 3
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>>7142777
Yours is arguably way better than what i've got.
I'll do three more and move on
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>>7142779
I like those more than the previous one. My eyes hurt a bit from squinting though.

>>7142784
How do people get so good at this stuff aaaaaaaaa.
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>>7142788
Forgot img
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>>7142784
love it, oozes soul
It suffers a bit from not having a clear focal point (with competition attention between the demon, ghostcat and girl), you could use value to focus it better on what you want
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Paprika.
Looks like shit and also i don't know how to shade at all.
I'm gonna copy something managable and go to bed.
I'll resume practice tomorrow.

Anything i should take into account for tomorrow?
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>>7142352
not really, about one pixiv request per week
people say twitter is better for commission but I don't use it
>>7142159
I don't use discord much but if you have any questions I can answer them right here, for references I use pinterest and artworks from artists I like
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Might have to skip 1-E. I don't have any tinted glass around me at all.
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>>7142758
Hey i also sat down today for an hour to really start and trying to learn how to actually draw. I don't really feel like i'm learning but it's supposed to teach me something so i'll just trust the book i guess....
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>>7142777
>>7142779
>>7142789
How the hell do you guys do it, everytime I tried doing that it looked like shit
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>>7142824
Damn, you're good.
The shoes are especially nice. I've done way worse at both back when i was last going through the book and right now.
Good job.

Also a pigeon drawn using the KtD shape language lesson. That's it for today. Tomorrow i'll try copying some stuff i like, re-trying the hands and try to move onto machinery drawing.

>>7142829
Stare directly at it, your eyes at hand level, close one eye and squint. Don't look at the paper unless you really really have to and try to like merge lines into one whenever possible. Like how when two fingers are close you don't have to think about it as two fingers but just a line that you have to draw to seperate them.

Also try to think about some bullshit in the meantime so that you don't go into symbol drawing bs.
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I want to try figure drawing tomorrow.
Could someone explain to me in clear-cut steps what figure drawing actually consists of?
Like step 1. step 2. step.3

I genuinely can't wrap my head around it from the explanations i've got so far so please spoonfeed me hard if you will.
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>>7142836
>I've done way worse at both back when i was last going through the book and right now.
>Good job.
So you did the book before? It suppose to help me actually get the good base to start my journey but i cannot really comprehend it other than make me draw stuff i wouldn't draw by myself.
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>>7142784
I'm cooming this is awesome. The girl main character needs to be more in the front though
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>>7142843
Thrice but i gave up before i was finished with chapter 1.
My resolve sucks and practically doesn't exist.
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>>7142838
hampton has a book, course, and youtube channel explaining his process
this is good as an introduction for the steps he uses (gesture -> structure -> anatomy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H2NNpnN8a8
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>>7142836
>Don't look at the paper unless you really really have to
I've tried doing that before and it just makes it look more shit; my hand-eye coordination isn't very good
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>>7142881
meh/10
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>>7142881
kim possible
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im beg but theres hope
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im unemplyed so i made a doom joe rogan
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>>7142897
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>>7142898
felonius bolus subconsciously influenced me i think
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>>7142924
his influence persists through his incarceration
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Drawing mechs again …
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character designing for other people is so hard
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>>7142952
Hm, shame about their necks.
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>>7142956
I can see it on the first one but not really the other two. Help?
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>>7142960
He's the anon who drew the OP girl >>7141295. Don't listen to him.
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>>7142960
Just lasso the heads and bring them down slightly, plus the girls dont really match the personality traits that you listed very well. I dont know the actual prompts your friends gave you, but you could play up the personality and expression more, its a bit weak...
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>>7142965
Kek
>>7142966
I’ll give it a try, thank you anon. It’s just a name I gave the designs for ease of reference. I’m trying to design a character for my friend, but all he gave me was “black hair and glasses.” Was trying to get a general direction he might prefer out of him
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fuck you niggers
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>>7141684
>>7141754
>>7141809
>>7142007
Day 500 of asking for a ntr sketch

I still only browse this board and general every couple of weeks to see your coom works and pawells progress(?)
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>>7141996
1glitchycent on Xitter and discord.
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>>7142685
Semi-active. Don't really play much, but I do hang about on MS13. Also sorry for replying to your first post twice, didn't know the first one went through.
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Mostly done now. Dunno how I cocked up the rim of the bowl so bad, but hopefully I can fix a little.
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>>7143052
>Maggots
ewwwwwwwwww -100000 points
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>>7142422
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>>7142784
>pinterest tag
This isn't yours you crabby blond female
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>>7143072
no, i usually just screenshot stuff i save in discord, and pull it up in muh chrome. its just the chrome extension that makes the thing pop up for anything in your browser to save to a pinterest board
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>>7143077
very shallow unappealing western anime art style
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>>7142952
How the fuck does cold/warm work?
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>>7142952
weird is very cute
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>>7143077
cute
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>>7143086
nta, but can you just stop moving the goal post?
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>>7143096
It’s called critique.
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>>7143096
don't reply to retarded nodraws
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>>7143102
like you?
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>Accused some rando of art theft
>get btfo
>move the goal post, act retarded to save himself from embarrassment
>dig the hole deeper with each comments
What a faggot! LOL
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>>7143077
Cute, I like the clothes
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>>7143117
Won’t you feel silly when you realize he was only ACTING retarded.
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>>7142650
Araki draws with magazines in one hand and pencil in the other. I'm not joking
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>>7142753
It's just starting simple. A box can help simplify stuff like perspective and it's easier to draw and conceptualize than most anything else.

I recommend drawing what you like and then drawing whenever is around you, taking time to observe the object, its proportions, how it's positioned (Draw what you see, not what you know).
Don't worry about not being good, that takes time. Just have fun with it and take your time.
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I'm working on drawing rocks. How does this sketch look?
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>>7143132
turn it to grayscale if you struggle to see values, at least in the beginning
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>>7143135
That's actually a really good idea, thanks.
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>>7143088
Cold just means emotionally distant. You talk to her and she seems a little absent-minded, it's hard to know what she's thinking.
Warm turned to you and smiled.
Really all I meant by it. Very vague design directions
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>>7143045
Bout as good as it'll get tonight. Maybe some fresh eyes tomorrow l will help me clean it up a bit.
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>>7143137
nta, but you can also increase brightness/contrast for grayscale value practice.
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>>7142810
can you join the ASG discord it's chill asf and without schizos, itd be helpful to have more ints in there who can share a few tips
discord . gg/3bwdfRk
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>>7143148
>>7143149
I saved them. If you delete those pics, I will repost 'em.
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>>7143139
good shit anon
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>>7143153
Why would you do something like that you cunty fuck?
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>>7143156
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>>7143159
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>>7143132
cool rock
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>>7143159
Hawt!
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>>7143183
This looks really good! I look forward to painting stuff like that eventually.
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xrd johnny eyeballing studfy ^_^_^__^
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>>7143156
why even delete them in the first place
the archive exists it's fucking pointless anyway retard
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>>7142636
I've typed a long well-thought-out response yesterday and apparently 4chan just ate it. I'll try again I guess.
I'd like to believe I haven't fully lost hope yet, but I do feel rather despondent on most days. I can only work in short bursts of motivation and any attempt at discipline and habit-forming falls apart after said motivation peters out.
Aversion to goals deemed impossible is something I know full well - it's how it feels looking at the works of artists who had spent years, if not decades, improving their craft, while being a complete beginner myself.
At the same time, the idea of giving up completely doesn't sit right with me either. I just can't let go for some reason. Not to be overly dramatic (challenge impossible), but I would describe it as being stuck in a sort of limbo.
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i just want to draw cute girls and here i am drawing shoes and peppers
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>>7143215
same here, what a scam
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>>7142972
I personally liked weird and cold the most, probably because I'm a strange little guy.
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>>7143219
How do you build the base of your heads. I really like your style.
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Am I actually kind of good at drawing? I legitimately can't tell anymore. Like I always feel like I suck compared to everyone else
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>>7142677
>>7143023
But which one is it?
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>>7143052
:<
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>>7143226
Thank you very cool, 10zzz10.
Now draw her getting pollenated, with it being all sticky and naughty :>
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>>7143237
>beg trap
LMAO. You felt for the biggest beg-trap of all "believing that everything is beg-trap"
You draw like shit
You hate your drawing
You seethe when people make better work
You lash out by spamming the thread with your garbage
You waste your time haunting a 4chan thread
You are MISERABLE
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>>7143244
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>>7143246
Verification not required.
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>>7143235
:/
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>>7143254
>Talent not found
LMAO.
>triggered
>spam the thread with garbage
Ahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha
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>>7143215
Same except it's hot dudes but not in a homoerotic way just like more of a "appreciation of male beauty" angle.

You know what i mean, right?
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>>7143256
The thread is not at the bump limit so I cannot spam like usual out of consideration for other people who want to post their artwork.

But mark my words anon, all of us get judged at the time of death. We should strive to live more wholesome and meaningful lives while we still can, regardless of whatever conditions we live in.

Verification not required.
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>>7143266
>But mark my words anon, all of us get judged at the time of death.
No need to mark your words when they’ve been said by countless before you.
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>>7143226
>>7143255
kill yourself mentally ill degenerate
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>>7143267
I believe the business of human beings and life itself to be too cruel, barbaric, and savage to be a random whimsical occurrence that happens due to inert matter falling into the perfect set of conditions after trillions of years of just floating around randomly.

The birth of any of us into this plane of existence is no coincidence - we all have unfinished business, it’s why we’re here.

But what about you, anon? What do you think?

Verification not required.
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>>7143202
Then why go to the effort of reposting them. you stupid bitch?
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>>7142945
fucking kino
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>>7143291
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>>7143385
these are unironically kinda soulful
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>>7141295
how the fuck do you draw bending organic forms in perspective
my mind is not able to comprehend it
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>>7143401
Nah
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>>7142666
Men in suits you say?
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>>7143385
You're allowed to spend more than five minutes on these. You understand that, right?
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>>7143429
A lot more mileage - I wouldn't worry about whether they look right or not, you'll just go insane

Pencil strokes = memorization of negative shapes, both mentally and physically in your muscles
More pencil strokes = upgrade the 3D-modeling engine in our brains

It's a long road, and if we don't learn to enjoy ourselves, we'll be turning the car back around before we know it.

One of my old mileage sheets from around November 2022

My art now
>>7143385

Verification not required.
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some little witch character, would appreciate critique
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fucking foreshortening, advice please.
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>>7143520
Try drawing the limbs as cylinders tapering towarsd a vanishing point
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>>7143503
It seems fine. Kind of generic. Maybe differentiate the colors a little more around the face. As it is, hair/skin/eyes kind of blends together.
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>>7143185
Got a thing for meaningless jumbles of lines, do you?
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>>7143224
I'll be honest with you, if this is your best then you suck
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>>7143601
Not yet, but I’m getting there.
>>7143605
NTA but PYW
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Can I get some feedback on this Toga sketch before I move onto shading and coloring?
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>>7143608
>NTA but PYW
Why? Regardless of the quality of my work that other anons work still objectively sucks
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>>7143619
The proportions and depth of the girl in the bottom look wrong? i'm a crab btw
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>>7143619
Bottoms face looks weird
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Time to draw again.
Day 2
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>>7143608
ignore nodraws
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>>7143203
>it's how it feels looking at the works of artists who had spent years, if not decades, improving their craft, while being a complete beginner myself
I can appreciate this sentiment, as I have been there myself, and my best advice would be to lower your expectations. Carl Jung said that life cannot go forward except from the place one happens to be. in other words, you're simply not going to get to your favorite artist's level without going through various intermediary stages. progress can be non-linear and you can have instances of rapid growth, but on the whole it will take time, perhaps decades. I realize accepting the reality of things is not as simple as snapping your finger or merely thinking about it once and having a complete personality shift, but the repeated process of trying to come to grips with your abilities and what it will take to get there should help you to see some progress there. I have also reframed my aspirations: once I started thinking long-term - that it may be 15-20 years until I get to where I am confident in my abilities, I have found myself to be a lot more accepting of my artistic shortcomings. but that's because I'm in it for the long haul. also try not to bite off more than you can chew. Steve Huston has a good video on this, about finding a sweet spot of difficulty to maximize gains: https://youtu.be/Cmhv1ZoCDUs?si=ZB6n4kQxEkmvO7ZE too easy is boring, too hard is disheartening. also, try to be aware that your emotions aren't necessarily true: you don't *have* to agree with your hopelessness, your frustration. If I did, I would have remained a quitter a few years ago and would've never decided that giving up on art doesn't sit right with me either. now I'm 4~ years in and have been making clear improvements with the time I'm given. I'm still not good, but perhaps one day I'll get there. I just don't want to live with the regret of not trying, and it seems like part of you doesn't either.
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>>7143605
>I'll be honest with you, if this is your best then you suck
>>7143626
>that other anons work still objectively sucks
Why does it suck?
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What's the best resource for drawing original tomboy hair

I don't want to copy anime because it'll be apparent which character I stole it from
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>>7143659
>it'll be apparent which character I stole it from
Steal from different characters then (multiple at once)
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>>7143655
If you can’t tell on your own then you really should give up.
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>>7143684
>you really should give up
I'd rather keep trying but maybe I just don't have the right brain for art or something...
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Advice? I draw traditional tattoo type designs, they are fairly cartoony and within my skill level, I plan to continue but want to get better at art in general.

I can pay (a bit) what art class should I buy? I pirated a bunch but they were all too basic desu, cartoonish/lowbrow stuff is ideal - should I sign up to Udemy?
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>>7143700
the only reason to buy a course is to get feedback from someone qualified
the content will be a regurgitation of stuff you can find in the artbook and video course threads
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>>7143219
pls respond
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>>7143632
>>7143630
Thanks guys, I'll do some fixing and report back
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Man, I still have so much to go, can't help but compared myself to actual skilled people but those also have years of experience.
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>>7143220
IDK man, I just kinda draw an overall peanut shape and adjust the shape, height and width for the character and then just treat the face kinda like a doll, imagining not only the cross center line, but also the cheek and forehead lines to help place the planes better.
tldr; Loomis but with shapez, fitting in the sphere after the fact and not at the beginning
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>>7143742
hey, pretty good head on the bottom left
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>>7143754
Thank you kindly, anon.
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What? I don't remember it being there.
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>>7143760
get with the times, chud. girls can have penises, and sucking on 'em makes you straight.
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Somebody please help me, I'm making this piece as a gift and I really don't want to fuck it up. The picture is on the right is what I had down as the thumbnail, but the client wanted the character's physique to be a little stockier, like a strongman, which I think kinda fucked me up. I worked on it a bit but fatigue set in and I feel like I've started shitting this up severely.

If anyone could overpaint/redline/whatever this I'll be eternally grateful.
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>>7143684
>If you can’t tell on your own then you really should give up.
Don't be such a cryptic asshole anon. That person's work is just a bit flat, if they work a bit more on form and perspective they'll be fine. No clue why you wanted to cast doom on them for just asking questions
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>>7143533
ty
>>7143601
nice
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>>7143710
I had considered posting in a FB art group to try and find a mentor, maby that would be a better idea? There's a few other artists I know that I can go see to get critique but we always end up fucking around instead lmao
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>>7143859
>middle painting
the forehead is too wide and its angle isn't steep enough
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Here's what I learned as a 76 day beg this is gonna be gay if you guys want I can post my work but it's on my DAD gallery
>don't say, do
>draw what you see, not what you know
>you're going to have bad days but it's best to keep going
>don't compare yourself to anyone
>find enjoyment in drawing
>don't be too hard on yourself instead balance between being critical and doing it for fun similar to the 50/50 rule that guy said
>Just do it, failure is key in everything and you'll learn something everyday you draw
>have a habit
This graph helped me a lot as well
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>>7143879
Post ur work i'm curious what 76 day beg looks like.
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>>7143978
This is from 2 days ago as I haven't drawn today, I forgot to bring my sketchbook in the bus @_@
https://dad.gallery/users/5453/submissions
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Maybe one day it'll work
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Sup begosis, today i felt like i am reaping the gains from perspective grind.

>>7143997
the values are merging. you need to somehow separate the forms, foreground and background. like this it is all the "Same". try using thicker sharpie for outline and add extra hatching on forms to imply light
>>7143786
find ref of buffed dude, draw what you see
>>7143700
it doesnt matter if you cross stich, tattoo, spray graffiti or whatever. and since you did not PYW, all i can offer are fundies: observation, perspective, construction in that order. Keys to drawing is great book for the first fundie
>>7143659
webs like these? focusonhair.com
>>7143503
its cute. i would crab the value range, but it is probably WIP
>>7143224
it is good enough that i cannot point out fundamental flaw in it, it is not good enough to feel accomplishment
>>7143077
i kneel
>>7142891
beg wouldnt draw such delicate nose and lips, you either copied it or have shitton of mileage putting you into int category
>>7142838
eviston: The Art and Science of Drawing
>>7142815
learn to use google for references
>>7142803
you are on right path, keep drawing
>>7142725
that is literally how you learn
>>7142720
it is too "competent" to be jak meme. draw it worse
>>7142661
Bridgman for western style, Hikaru Hayashi for weebs, Morpho for normies, Hogarth for gays
>>7142612
cubes, my mortal enemy
>>7142432
drawing is mentally challenging, you are most likely depressed because no sport + vitamin D deficiency
>>7142272
>that simple
I wouldnt use word simple, but yes
>>7142216
i like it, but its painfully unfinished
>>7142053
>paint nice booba
>smear vaseline on top
please next time use reference for see through tops
>>7141872
i wish my fucking around was as pleasing as this
>>7141784
>>7141748
bad value range
>>7141616
look up how jackets or jeans actually look like and draw what you see
>>7141829
you made the head too narrow
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>>7144036
>Hogarth for gays
Time to get oily n' gnarly
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>>7141414
>>7141352
I think this turned out alright
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Does drawing square and circle really matter?
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>>7144108
only triangle matters comrade
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Can anyone give me some tips for why my art is all over the place?


Both are imagination sketches but I like the bottom one much more. A lot of my drawings just turn into incoherent scribbles while some of them look pretty neat. I wish all my drawings could look like the bottom one. It seems kind of random.
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>>7144128
Have you tried not scribbling
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>>7143879
>76
This is so little it's not even funny, shut up you have nothing to say
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>>7144133
If I try to draw without scribbling I can't visualize anything and it looks stiff and soulless. They both started off as scribbles but what I saw in the second scribble looked more 3d than the first. Wish I could control it better, feels like scribble wheel of fortune
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>>7144137
Loose sketching ideas =/= actually thoughtless scribbling
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New thread, guys?
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>>7144143
why?
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how do i improve this?
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>>7144036
>beg wouldnt draw such delicate nose and lips, you either copied it or have shitton of mileage putting you into int category
all you have to do is zoom in when drawing, it's not that deep
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>>7144387
>>7144387
>>7144387
>>7144387
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>>7142575
start fucking dogs
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>>7142654
very cute anon, you did a good job on putting effort into a background



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