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First new oil painting in a while.
>>7709773looks good
>>7709789Thanks. Its yours?
>>7709791Its my mspaint edit of another anons painting
I had some thoughts about stylization and realism lately. Its much easier and cheaper to find references, when your style is transformative enough, that the result does not trigger copyright laws. Its not really about the laws, its about your own perception. In my case i dont feel full ownership of my work, when i work from references i didnt produced myself. Even if i use images without copyright.I tend towards realism, but the last couple of years were very frustrating. I tried to work from internet pictures, felt bad. I tried to work from life and my own photos, but that was way to hard and limiting. I would need a stable income from my art to legitimize all the hustle.
I think when i push my proportions and colors more i could transform every ref i want into my own art. But then im afraid to end up like most artists with a meme style.
how do you organize/archive your old drawings? I have hundreds of papers I have no idea where to put them.Also, wasn't there a general about materials, papers, tools and whatnot for trad artists?
>>7709827you're worryingly low IQ
>>7710213> artistic integrity is dumbPostmodernism ruined a whole generation of artists.
>>7710221>it's the gypsylol
>>7709827>those Dishonored portraits were done from referenceFuck me, I always though those were done from imagination, now I feel lied to.Anyway, I feel the same way as you do, working from a reference someone else made, unless it's a specifically made reference sheet I only use to plan out a pose. The only time I work from reference is when it's some throwaway picture, like fanart or some shit, other time I feel like an original idea carries the picture more than just skillfully copying a photo. There's a chinese artist that does faux-trad in digital very nicely, but all of his pictures are just some chinese insta-whores repainted with trad brushes in photoshop, it's very tiring to look at
>>7710278> now I feel lied toI was disappointed as well. In the first place, because the photos are better. Maybe its the context with this American sheets, they use for prisoners. The photos are more interesting, they look wicked and sad and dumb.At the same time the photos look curated, which hints to a darker context of Nazi skull measurement and connecting ugliness to higher rates of criminality and so on.Very cool photos, they artist was able to capture some it but added nothing. Its like a mediocre translation from photo to painting.I felt similar quite often. If i have a photo thats interesting im asking myself what im even doing. The postmodern photorealism approach is not mine. I dont see the irony in larping a printed, i feel just stupid.Then i tried to paint from "bad" photos, to have room to add something. Its better, but harder (harder in a not so pleasant way) to achieve good realism.Working from life works way better for me. But there is the problem with locations. I dont really like the country im living in, at least im not really inspired by what it looks like in these days. Especially the region im living in. I feel 0 desire to paint things around me. I painted some interior, food, toothpaste and so on. Was fun. But i would prefer a naked woman or dude in a historical setting.
>>7710115> Also, wasn't there a general about materials, papers, tools and whatnot for trad artists?There normally is, if its not there make a new one.Its funny, in a perfect world there would be 0 reasons to split those two topics, but in reality the people in both have not too much in common. Material threads are mostly for nodraw consumers.Sometimes when i need infos on an ink or pen, i look it up at youtube and there are a lot of people, completely obsessed with buying colorfull ink bottles of inks and pens for hundreds of dollars and they are not artists and not even calligraphers. Just normies obsessed with pens for no reason.Actually, its often harder to find a review by an artis, rather than by a collector.
>/trad/ shittalking nodrawsLAWL
>Thread derailed in 5 posts/ic/ is fucking dead.
>>7710708>>7710659pyw
>>7710764>no work>trying to pick a fight online insteadpart and parcel of posting in a /trad/ thread
>>7710771> >no work>>7709773> First new oil painting in a while.
I have done a series of drawings with Raiden as the principle part of the composition. Here's one
>>7710777Heres 2
>>7710778I like 2 the best.
>>7710780
>>7710778pose and torso is great but the forearm looks wrong, what ref did you use
>>7710777>>7710778>>7710787butt not big enough
>>7709768pastel, this ones really small 5"x8"
>>7711799oops
>>7711802how old?
>>7711936she said she heard of limp bizkit so old enough
Acrylic makers or Alcohol makers for a beginner?How many colors should I buy?This is what I want to achieve.
>>7711936Objection! Relevance?
>>7711802that's actually pretty goodIs anybody following Colleen Barry's Patreon or Substack? Seems to be some good stuff there, would love it if somebody shared it.
>>7712148Can we go two threads without you shilling your shitty wife?
What's more easy to learn but hard to master and produces the best looking results?Gauche or watercolors?
>>7712152I discourage paying for her work, I encourage piracy. If anybody know a way around substack's paywall, please share
>>7711957Watercolor
>>7712148> Colleen BarryNot this stupid cunt again, fuck you John. I pirated your stupid course, its shit, havent even watched it...
My fault, the op picture is too faggy.
>>7712199No
>>7712222Hmm, im the trad police and i tell you to buy watercolors and not some soulless markers.
>>7712333I'm bad at mixing colors, I want to start drawing trad stuff but I want some training wheels first.
>>7712347> I'm bad at mixing colorsThats the point though.Painting is 50% mixing.Using markers i a very graphical and illustrative exercise. Nothing wrong with that, but when you really want to paint you need start mixing.Try a limited palette Zorn/Apelles or even Ultramarine and Burned Sienna or different red earth.With such a palette as long as your values are right, you cant fuck up the colors. Through the limitedness it will be harmonized in the end.
>>7712380If you can, give me good video course guides for trad painting then.
>>7712396Try Will St John's, he's awesome
>>7712414Expensive though
>>7712417But worth it
>>7712414> Will St John
>>7712417> Expensive thoughPaying for courses? What are you a neolib? Just torrent whatever you need.
>>7712414found where?
>>7712434>torrentNo! You could get a virus! You must pay and acquire the material through the propel channels!!
>>7712396everything you've ever wanted to know about watercolor>inb4 too retarded for a book
>>7712508Thanks
>>7712380Another question, is art like pic related done with makers or watercolors?
>>7712566acrylic markers if it were to be made by hand
>>7712566digital, dumbass
>>7712579Really? any examples?
>>7712566Its cg, the sky is probably a photo with filter.If you want your art look like this, why dont you use photoshop? Whats even your motivation to use trad?You can paint quite cg like with trad materials, but its advanced, cos you have to fight the medium all the time. Every medium hast its "natural" look and if you fight it, its always harder. And really unnecessary for noobs.Like you could use oil, to make it look like watercolor. Yes. BUT its makes no sense for a noob.You want cg, use cg. Cg evolved>>7712434 the last years, its now easier to make photoshop look like trad, then the other way around.
>>7712974I've been doing digital art for years, but I always yearned to paint in trad.I started here because it was cheaper to learn the fundamentals without wasting money on materials (and I was poor and young at the time, now I have the money to properly learn)
>>7712964you can look up acrylic marker examples on youtube and the like, I'm mostly saying this because it is the easiest medium to do flat coloring on, however it might not be the case, it could be made using tempera for all I know, but it's most likely digital art.
>>7712982Yeah, honestly the difference between cg and trad is bigger than you probably think.I dont think its the way for to go, to try to make trad look and feel like cg that you already know.I think it makes more sense to take it as it as, as its own thing. Ther is of course a big connection between digital and analog, but dont force it.Look ap art thats traditional, something you like, Miyazaki, or other flat and cartoony people. And then try to paint like them. Have fun, do it for a while and over time, you may merge both medium, trad and digital to one style. Or maybe not, maybe you will like the separation of the two.
>>7713156> or other flat and cartoony peopleI mean, do that if you have to.I would suggest to look at real painting. Not illustration, but painting. Something mainstream, like Sargents watercolors for example. Cg is illustrative, therfore it can hard for cg people to understand the difference between painting and illustration. But the difference is very distinct and important.
>>7713140I've seen those yt examples and they already sold me out but I really need to see art like pic related (for the opaque finish) done with acrylic makers to see if I should pull the trigger and buy them.Also what I mean by this picture >>7712566 is not where it was made but the finish look it has and what could be compared to.
>>7713156Yeah I know that the two are completely different mediums, but like I said in the other post I learned digital in order to prepare myself for traditional, as in the fundamentals only (values, color theory, perspective, textures etc.) because the materials are not the same.This >>7711957 picture for example was my first ever painting using gouache and it was fun.
>>7713314yeesh, anonyou're making my pee-pee hardstop itjk please go on
>>7713330> picture for example was my first ever painting using gouacheGood, and whats the problem?
>>7713410Nothing, just an example of what I could do with what I learned in digital.
>>7713445> NothingWhy dont you just paint another one?
>>7713513Becuause >>7712347
>>7713528> I'm bad at mixing colorsAnd painting with markers will make you better at mixing?Markers aren't training wheels, they're a wheelchair.If you want training wheels for mixing, start with a warm/cool limited palette.
>>7713538>And painting with markers will make you better at mixing?No.. The colors are already mixed I just have to put them where they are supposed to go. This is to get mileage on real paper, eventually I will learn how to mix my own colors.
>>7713541> The colors are already mixed I just have to put them where they are supposed to go.You did it, you convinced me, can't see anything going wrong, you have my blessing, son.
>>7713314>they already sold me outwut>for the opaque finishwut>but the finish look it has and what could be compared toit looks digital, it doesn't compare to trad in any way whatsoeverthe closest you'll get is gouache/poster paint but lineart will be a fucking mess on paper, they'd do it on the opposite face of the cel before digital
>>7713541FYI this is who you're talking to.
>>7713569>>they already sold me out>wutI think he wanted to say "I'm sold" or some variation of that phrase
>>7713544Thanks>>7713569Opaque as not transparentAnd I know it looks digital and it is digital, that's not the point, the point is that I wanted to know the equivalent of that style in real life. Because i've seen jap artist do pieces like that in trad media.
>>7713572Idk, she looks like she knows what she is doing.
>>7713605>Opaque as not transparentI know what opaque means, do you? what is an "opaque finish"? you posted oil with visible transparency, I have no clue what the fuck you think you're asking for
>>7713616Eh.... let's leave it at that.
>>7713622retard
>>7713632Yes, I'm bad at explaining things.
>>7713643you're not bad at explaining things, you're too full of yourself to admit you have no idea what you're talking about and actually learnyou've spent like 20 posts acting like a retard, asking nonsensical question based on how you're imagining materials working and dismissing everyone telling you that's not how it worksI asked a simple question about your query in an effort to help you and you've acted like a 12 year old redditorkill yourself, nigger
>>7713648Calm down man, I'm not here to fight with anyone.No, I'm not getting full of myself. And yes, I don't know much about the material and that's why I'm here. I'm using the words opaque and transparent to make my point a bit easier to understand.Here's a summary, I like a style of painting that has thick strokes that have almost zero transparency and rely less on blending colors with each other, so that means little smoothness or gradients, and more bold colors one of top of the other.I believe that acrylic makers will help me get there in trad art as a getaway to eventually learn proper normal painting, like I said above, what I want to see is more art made with them to see what are they capable of, because by searching both those and alcohol makers I see more art made the latter so that made me drop into this thread to make that question.The digital picture that I posted was meant to ask something out of curiosity and it's not related to the main point.Also this anon >>7713576 got that post right, I just phrase that wrong.
>>7713666phrased"
>>7713666There's shitloads of blending, gradients and transparent layering in that image.
>>7713685Yes, I said little not non-existent.Now compare it to this pic, there's now a fuckload of them.You can see the strokes and shapes in that first one, I like that kind of work and the ones that go a bit more beyond that, like Impasto.
>>7713666That's not how painting works at all, just shut the fuck up and pick up a tube of black and white
>>7713700Sure, what do you want me to paint?
>>7713711I want you to stop shitting up the thread with this inane theorycrafting
>>7713721And I think you should take it easy man.And it's fine, I will paint something and post it here later.
>>7713745I'm typing on my phone while wasting time at work, kiddo, this is taking it easy
>>7713695> You can see the strokes and shapes in that first one, I like that kind of work and the ones that go a bit more beyond that, like Impasto.What do you think is impasto?
>>7713666that pic is fucking good. Reminds me of Edgar Payne. I assume you were heavily referencing another image, right?
>>7714295Not my art sorry.
>>7709768https://www.youtube.com/live/r-_mfJKfgAU?si=hTAEdMtN3xWPaBew...
First attempt at acrylics coming from a few years doing mainly digital. I had a lot of fun mixing colors and it felt more rewarding compared to the usual flat looking digital work I've done up until now, it also made me realize how much I am carried by the undo button and now I crave texture
>>7716535nice values
>>7716535I would harmonize the colors a little bit more and the turquoise drop shadow looks weird, way too saturated. Otherwise its nice.
Used a ballpoint pen on a shitty piece of paper
>>7716886Thank you!>>7716902I appreciate the feedback! Agreed that the drop shadow looked off, but I couldn't quite see what it was at the time
1 month painting, first time using gouache. Also how do you take photos of things without the shadow of your phone appearing and also getting the correct colours? I tried to edit it so the colours look more similar to irl but should I just use a scanner instead or something
Makin this joint
>>7716927Based 'saw Alphonso Dunn's drawing in the other thread' anon.
>>7717627All your colours are muddy. Are you using artist quality paints?
>>7717551This could be a lot better if you painted the pepper from life. I can tell you used a photo because the lighting is very flat. I think if you added more saturation to the midtone it will become a bit more threedimensional. Don't be afraid of using more hue variation, ie go a bit more purplish (cooler) in the shadow parts, and more warm red in the midtones.
>>7717636What moody means. I don know id have to check they arent very good it feels desu. Is still like 60% way through so a lot of it is failing to spread paint quickly for rough draft. The cloak is a bit muddy though and that is more developed at least the upper part and arms so that should be because I want to avoid using pure colors like pure white so i mixed with red and brown and same with wings those have red and brown and white mix so it looks more pro or renaissance shit.
>>7716522
>>7717775https://www.youtube.com/live/r-_mfJKfgAU?si=vmu0F7xI5-mlA8dNin progress
>>7717672I don't think I fully understand what you are yapping about. No one said to use a colour straight from the tube, you can mix a 'clean' colour perfectly fine. Read this: https://drawpaintacademy.com/muddy-colors/ A painting generally does need some muddy colours in areas of low interest and such but that's an aside. Her skin looks dead. Brush up on your values as well.
Idk why but lately the fact I’m totally unknown on all social media platforms annoys me. I sell art, I even sell art for a lot of money sometimes, but having 100 followers on INSERT DATA MINING APP pisses me off. I really don’t think it’s what people say, that I’m “an ass hole online”, because that has nothing to do with a post that’s just a painting with relevant hashtags. Anyways I’m fat and retarded.
>>7717631Thx manI'm kinda drawing those images daily from now onI don't understand how tentacles work
>>7717975> Idk why but lately the fact I’m totally unknown on all social media platforms annoys me. You should work a little bit more on your fundis, I'm sure when you keep learning, one day you will produce something decent.
>>7717781Alright I have been starting to be more mindful abuot keeping colors pureer/clearning brush before going in again, replacing watah, thanks for advice>yappinglel
>>7718000
how the heck do you spread acrylic in canvas? it dries up even in the color palette immediately i dont know, i gotta put a ton of water for it to work but if i do its diluted
>>7719998For starters, acrylic paint is shit.Prime your canvas with a gesso tats not too absorbing. Prewet the surface before spreading the color. Use a retarder to have longer opentime.Also there are special flat acrylics to paint big flat shapes.
Yeehaw
>>7720424Can you explain it?
>>7720507nope. was thinking of dark souls and the music video for The Widow by the mars volta while i painted it. the reference was a Sorolla painting
Can I use art acrylics like Liquitex to paint minis instead of buying 17ml bottles?
>correct a pieceOr>Make a new one with the corrections apliedIm always scared the corrections will actually ruin the original work
>>7723697if it needs corrections, it's not what you want in the first place, who cares?if you fuck it up, you'll be better prepared for the rework
>>7723820I guess that makes sense. I think sometimes before overworking made things worse and I shouldve stopped earlier. But not reworking it makes me feel like a pussy because then its a risk I dont want to take.
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>>7724779good
As seen in the latest issue of Plein Air
>>7724924>American tech billionaires create tech that’s meant to destroy and enslave humanity>old Asian lady: “you say no sense, just use hand and brain”Based
>>7724924I prefer Kelly's work, now that's something soulless AI will never match
Holy shit, /sp/ is posting better art than you chuds. Aren't you ashamed of yourselves?>>>/sp/150727659
>>7725040that might've been an own had we posted any, dumbass
>>7725044never said it wasn't, dumbass, just saying he sees /sp/ a better place for his art than this fucking thread. Shameful.
>>7725046read that again
>>7725052ah.ok.I am dumb.ok.
Ballpoint pen and marker criticism welcome
>>7709768https://youtube.com/shorts/gnPZ90vs93E?si=34C-ow-K6hucEjyFTime
>>7725298>criticism welcomeI think its too pink.
>>7725337What are those retarded sounds?The painting is nice, from what i can see, i like the textures.
>>7726794It was drawn while looking through a Virtual boy!
I started oil painting today and I got okay results on a value exercise. I don't like the 7, 3 or 2 sections because their colors are pretty muddied/uneven, but It was fun putting something down on canvas. I'm not sure if the results I got were because I used a prepared canvas; is using gesso cheating? I wanted to get raw linen but couldn't be assed to drive to the good art store in the city.Now I have too much fucking paint. How do I save it, or could I use it for a monochrome fire painting exercise?>>7725298It insists upon itself
>>7726884Oil out your palette.>is using gesso cheating? ?>I don't like the 7, 3 or 2 sectionsDont blend the strips so you can judge the tone better, yours are visibly off.>Now I have too much fucking paint.Knowing how much paint to mix is a skill in itself.
>>7726902>Oil out your palette.fuck, I knew I was forgetting something. Too late for that, I suppose.>?As in should I be getting untreated linen and applying oil grounds to have more control over the overall work.>Dont blend the strips so you can judge the tone better, yours are visibly off.The strips themselves of their edges? I wound up blending them because I really like blending>Knowing how much paint to mix is a skill in itself.So can I scrape it off and put it somewhere else? I can't store my palette like this.
>>7726966>So can I scrape it off and put it somewhere else?Sure. But it will not be quite as smooth as fresh paint.>untreated linen and applying oil grounds Applying oil to raw canvas is wrong. Modern postmodernist do that, but the old masters never did.If you have oil ground put it on your pre-rpimed canvases. You could even apply one more layer of gesso before oil ground.Pre-primed canvas always needs additional work. You can buy premium, and you dont need to do anything, but its very expensive.
>>7726966>Too late for that, I suppose.Not really, clean it a little bit and put linseed oil on, you can use the leftover paint to stain it as well
>>7727002I cleaned it off as well as I could and oiled it. The leftover paint's staining it with some nice grey hues. I'll do it a couple more times over the course of the next few days here. Thanks for the tips. I'll come back to it once I get a better head for what I want to practice painting and once the palette is finished
is ti normal to want to eat your paint?
>>7726797It's a pen drawing not a painting and those sounds are me.
>>7713162Nice watercolor
>>7725298Looks like there's a filter
There's a big sale for Holbein acrylic gouache at my local art store and while my main wet medium is oils, I also enjoy painting with gouache, so this sale is a siren's song. Thing is, I have watercolour brushes that I use for regular gouache, and if I get these Holbeins, do I need to get a whole new set of watercolour brushes instead of using the ones I use for regular gouache? Different binders and stuff. My gut feeling says yes but I can't really figure it out conclusively. I reserved my expensive sables for oils but most of my gouache brushes are good quality synthetic watercolor brushes too... Don't really want to buy a whole new set but I also don't want to ruin what I own.
>>7727204>is it normal to want to eat your paint?No. It is actually a disorder known as Pica:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pica_(disorder)>Pica is the consumption of substances with no significant nutritional value such as soap, plaster, plastic or paint.I was given Lead White Oil paint back when I entered college. While I did not actively ingest it, I'm sure I probably accidentally ate some in many of my manic night-time painting sessions. Lead stays in your bones for decades. Even if it is "non-toxic", the metals used in most paints are just plain harmful. There is even a hypothesis that the amount of crime in the US stopped increasing in the 1990s because of the removal of Lead from Gasoline. I recommend getting some brightly colored berries and putting it into some Greek Yogurt and eating that instead, you can pretend it is paint.
>>7727619are their any berries that turn your yogurt grey?
>>7727619Eating most artist paint is by definition not pica, because the mediums generally do have nutritional value - eggs, oil, gum arabic, honey are all nutritious and eaten by humans.Pica is eating dirt and plaster and shit
>>7727496I wouldnt use my watercolor brushes for acrylics.
>>7727697if you were smart, you wouldn't use acrylics
>>7727496Acrylic gouache is just matte acrylic, calling it gouache is just a marketing gimmick for hipsters who are too cool for popular mediums, it's nothing like gouache.
>>7727705I heard that before but then I watched a vid where someone was using them and it looked really nice to work with, very vibrant colours and behaving similar enough to gouache. I fucking despise acrylics though, worked with those when I first dipped my toes into painting and I will never go back. Thanks anons.
>>7727701How would you feel if you had no breakfast this morning?
>>7727745I'd feel like I should take up acrylics given I'm too inept to feed myself apparently
>>7727204oils smell tasty
Horse
Chinese duck fisherman
>>7728533You need to study anatomy, tone and perspective before even touching a brush.
>>7729400brian is the most successful artist here by a massive margin, and probably top 3 on the board, know your place, pleb
>>7729482Haha, sure. It's pre-beg shit, lol.
>>7729482Lol. Lmao even
Just when I thought the newfags left after school started
>>7729482hi brian
>>7726884Stop wasting your time and paint on black and white values, you won't use them. Avoid black altogether unless you are working with a very specific color paletteYou are just starting, stop making shit harder than you need to. Raw linen? Learn to properly gesso a surface and you can use anything to paint on. I recommend cheapo mdf boards, prime sand and gesso yourselfGet a piece of glass and use it as a palette instead of that wooden shit that absorbs paint. I recommend a cheap pochade box (dyi if you cant find any). This way you can just close the box when you are done with the paint, so you dont have to worry about "storing the palette with paint on it"
>>7729400Its traditional painting. No one cares about that shit other than begs that need excuses to not paint.
>>7730302>No one cares about that shitThat's what the postmodern cabal brainwashes you into thinking
>>7729396
>>7730302All the best schools seem to have their students start out on charcoal and graphite before even touching brushes. It makes sense since working in monochrome with lines and shading forces you to render out details much more accurately, as the smallest mistakes are noticeable. When you come from drawing/draughting, paint brushes seem like they're made to make mistakes look good. >Its traditional paintingIt's impressionist.
>>7726884Update: The paint finally dried and I've seasoned my palette. I've also been working on some other stuff, and I saw a comment on a YouTube video that a simple depiction of a lemon made by a professor was the best thing the commenter had ever seen, and more than a hundred people agreed with her. I've held a paintbrush less than two hours and painted this in about 45 seconds. Is painting that hard for some people?>>7730301>Stop wasting your timeAnon, calm the fuck down. That exercise took thirty minutes and I bought more paint in the meantime. It's not like there's a bomb about to explode.>Learn to properly gesso a surface and you can use anything to paint on. I recommend cheapo mdf boards, prime sand and gesso yourselfI have stacks of leftover unused canvas from people who went through painting phases and I got a large roll of acrylic primed canvas for fifteen bucks.>I recommend a cheap pochade box (dyi if you cant find any)This was my plan. I've been looking up blueprints that people have given out and I should be able to go outside and paint with one in at least a month. If I can make it fit a glass cutting board I bought (don't ask), then that'd be perfect.
>>7718000Sick octopus. Maybe one where the tentacle is coming straight out and foreshortened? Maybe start painting!Here’s a watercolor I just finished representing Odin as a snake on his way to steal the famous Skald mead.
>>7731752>I've held a paintbrush less than two hours and painted this in about 45 secondsAnd that's what it looks like, what's your point?
>>7732406that my lemon that looks better than a professional artist's lemon would boggle the mind of that commenter, and I don't know why this seems so prevalent in oil painting
>>7732523... you should google the Dunning-Kruger effect
>>7732670Here's the lemon I'm comparing it to.>Dunning-Kruger I thought zoomers moved onto saying everyone who says something incorrect has "cognitive dissonance" or a "bias disorder" of some sort
I feel so basic doing skeleton studies but they can be entertaining. Yeah, the teeth look bad
>>7732523>and I don't know why this seems so prevalent in oil painting>>7730302>No one cares about that shit other than begs that need excuses to not paint.Its people like this, art-marxists, not be confused with social realism.
>>7732805those values and temperature are light years ahead of what you did lmaoyou can't genuinely be this delusional
>>7733014>those values and temperature are light years ahead of what you didwhich side, the wrong version or the right version? Because this was a demonstration of what not to do. Let's see if you read well enough to know what's what. Also "the temperature is better" no shit Sherlock he primed his canvas with ORANGE. I don't know why I'm trying to illustrate a point to you retards anyways. I'm waiting for my paint to dry and there are several more productive things I could be doing.
Oh, he mad.
>>7731828I would but I have exams to worry about(it'll be until November that I can dedicate my days to drawing seriously)The last piece I made was this shroomy image on the train
>>7733049>Because this was a demonstration of what not to do.Another anon here, what do you mean? This lemon >>7732805 was a demonstration on what not to do, but someone in the audience liked it anyway?I mean, im not sure, what he tried to demonstrate. The shadow is half warm half green which is a little bit strange. The terminator on the lemon should have more or less the same brown color.The green reflexes should be underneath the terminator and you would hae to put it into the shadow on the table. And of course, the orange imprimatura is not naturalistic. Its abstract, like when you draw on white paper, it does not literally mean that the background ouf your scene is a white void. If it were, the white void would interfire with the lighting on the subject.The same here, whe paint the lemon as if it is in a naturalistic envirement with realistic light and the orange imprimatura is just the surface and does not interfere with the lemon. The lemon is not painted as if it is in an orange void.Aaanyway, this lemon has hue variaty and reflexes and so on, even if they are "wrong" they are still way more interesting. You have just painted a flat patch of yellow.I mean what do you expect.
>>7733113>The shadow is half warm half green which is a little bit strange. The terminator on the lemon should have more or less the same brown color.That was exactly the point of the example. >You have just painted a flat patch of yellow. I mean what do you expect.Oh, yeah I guess the picture isn't too good. It has color variations, a shadow, highlight, and some stippling to depict pores, but it doesn't come through too well since I took a picture on a camera phone.Still, my larger point is that people who get into painting seem to be impressed by even the slightest bit of accuracy. That guy's throwaway lemon garnered more attention than I thought it deserved. It's a fine lemon.
>>7709827>when your style is transformative enough, that the result does not trigger copyright lawshave you seen E33? the game characters straight up look like famous actors and I doubt they asked anybody to use their likeness.>using prison photos for free profile and frontal viewhuh, that's actually genius
>>7733129>Still, my larger point is that people who get into painting seem to be impressed by even the slightest bit of accuracy.What exactly was sad about this lemon?I mean for some people such a manner of painting is peak. Nice clean color, loose brushwork, chiseled form... such fresh and lean back technique is very hard to fake. 'Cause it is implying that the artist has a lot more knowledge, skill and experience than a normie would see in it.I mean look at Brian, the whole thread is sucking his dick. But he would not be able to paint such a lemon with oil. On a very good day, using chalk, probably. But not oil, he cant get rid of mud in his oils.
>>7733142>look like famous actorsAnd who is that? Is that the James Bong guy who is memed on tv for having a fat wife?Anyway, in this case its about the liking, not copyright. A 3d model based on a photo is grey zone. A 3d model has no fixed angle of view and lighting like a photo.Anyway, famous actors in video games is a completely other can of worms. I hate it for several reasons.>huh, that's actually geniusIm very sure it was done a lot in fineart. Its a popular trope to use photos of prisenors and enemys, took by fashistic regimes and give them an another context. Postmodernists call it intertextuality.
>>7733158>Is that the James Bong guy who is memed on tv for having a fat wife?yes, he got aped hairstyle and all with 0 "artistic liberties"same with Gustave being Robert Pattinson, and i'm sure if you look harder into it you'd find the other characters are 1:1 with some actor.it's odd to me because Scarlett Johansson was able to tell an AI company to fuck off from both using her actual voice or anything close to her likeness after they tried their luck anyway, so technically actors can sue for likeness if they want to.
>>7709773me likey, try to introduce a stronger gradation of blue tints into the receding landscape next time :)
>>7711957Reads very well good job! Do more like this
>>7733343I did, but for some reason the camera is catching the orange layer underneath more than what my eyes see irl. But im digital-fagging for while now, anyway.I think i overcorrected too much, after seeing all the ai slop i wanted to quite digital completely. I think i will aim for a healthy mixture in the future.
>>7733144I don’t take credit for work I didn’t do myself, that’s something gay people do. Comparing traditional art in general is kind of gay, it’s better to critique it on its own merits or else you’re just backseat gaming. Sportsfags do that shit, and it’s annoying then too. “COME ON HIT THE BALL YA BUM”
>>7733438yikes
Some stuff I've been working on recently.
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