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Inspo-Thread
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My kinda thread, anon
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>>7716677
Thats cool, i like the small the visual perspective done with different stroke sizes.
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threads like these check my ego so hard.
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>>7716694
> 1748310402993310.jpg
Thats not 100% hard round, btw.
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Using solely HRB in Procreate is such a pain in the ass cause adjusting the size and picking colours is annoying as fuck.
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>>7716707
> Procreate
Plebproblems
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>>7716705
neither is OP
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>>7716720
He may have used the wet edge option, but otherwise hard round only.
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>>7716669
>hard round brush
Tell me about this meme. What does using only a hard round brush actually accomplish for the art?
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>>7716669
>With opacity and pen pressure
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>>7716766
Its a limitation which you can bounce your creativity off.
Has a low fi feel to it, but as much as pixelart.
Impressionistic broken color look as well.

But for the most its about raw control, the brush is 100% predictable. Everything that happens on canvas is controlled by you. You do smoothing by hand, textures by hand, more or less everything.
I like it as its own thing.
For many who wants to go further its the baseline. You can add to it, one feature at the time, step by step, withouth overhelming yourself.
You can change the shape. Then you can add textures, noise, different jitters and other modifiers. And it helps to have the path from the round hard brush to whatever you want to use right now. If you dont do it step by step and you jump directly to complicated texture brushes and mixturebrushes it could forever remain a black box for you. Something is happening, without seeing the sceletton underneeth you dont have the full control.

For me personaly, its about separating trad and digital. Trad is my main medium, when i paint in cg, i dont want to simulate trad, for many reasons, it would take to long to explain why exactly, i want it it to be destinct digital.

>>7716771
Yes, sure.
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>>7716786
>Everything that happens on canvas is controlled by you. You do smoothing by hand, textures by hand, more or less everything.
I'm not too familiar with digital art outside of anime, but this feels like it's describing most of anime illustration to me. Usually they do the painting with the same type of brushes as the lineart and every stroke and gradient is controlled. There's pen, pencil and brush/marker with the own goal and feel, with brush/marker being closer to painting even when doing lineart.

Would you say pic related is a HRB adjacent painting style?

>when i paint in cg, i dont want to simulate trad, for many reasons
Can you expand on it? It's interesting how there are attempts to emulate oils/trad physically in digital but I never found it too appealing.
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>>7716826
> this feels like it's describing most of anime illustration to me
Anime is usually less impressionistic, with fewer brushstrokes and broken color. Usually more polished as well.

> HRB adjacent painting style?
I would consider hrb a real style. But sure, its the same idea, using the most basic tools, in this case the sai blending brush, most likely.
> Can you expand on it?
When you pain in oil or watercolor for a while, even the best cg simulation looks fake. And whats the point, i could have the real thing, why should i take a flat imitation.
There are 2 ways to simulate trad, oil for example. You can it look like oil or you can make it feel like oil.
I tried to watch those tutorials on oil paint simulations, Rotaksowski was the name of the guy, or something similar, Polish. The method is very digital, you have to use mixer brushes, you need to color pick from photos of old paintings... not fun and it feels nothing like real oil.
The other approach is to emulate the process. Using a sai blending brush feels much more like painting with oil for me, not really, but much more than mixer brush does. But the end result is very, very digital.
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>>7716786
AI
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>>7716958
nigger
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>>7716967
naigger
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>>7716976
Negress
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>>7717068
>Anna Bilinska
Would this get her cancelled in current year?
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>>7717086
She would have to name it something different, like "I kneel" or sum shit. Otherwise, yes of course.
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>>7716958
Anon, this piece >>7716786 was created in 2019 long before you were born
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>>7717086
>>7717086
It depends.
It has a voyeuristic character and Pols are considered white in America, therefore it is not okey in therms of identity politics.
Orientalism in generally is seen as part of the colonial culture by the modern left. So its evil.

But you could twist it. If you know the right people. You could interpret the motive as African girl boss or something. At least she is a femoid, its not impossible.
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>>7717110
https://wolontariat.mnw.art.pl/2018/04/spojrzenie-jak-cios-w-serce-murzynka-anny-bilinskiej-bohdanowiczowej/
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>>7716766
all i need
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>>7717099
hahahahaha fuck you but yes you are correct.
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how do you guys know for sure that these artists used hard round brush?
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>>7716766
Everything.
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>>7717518
cuz they all look unblended, the round brushstrokes are all distinguishable

some of them have traces of mixer brush, tho
>>7716716
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Should I learn to draw with hrb before moving onto fancier brushes?
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>>7717713
> Should I learn to draw
Yes, please.
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>>7717713
as someone who stuck with just hard round for too long, I think there is some merit to it's simplicity but you'd be handicapping yourself if you didn't use texture brushes eventually
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>>7716669
Lixin Yin did a challenge of 100 hard round brush portraits. Some are really great and you can see every stroke. There is a bit of blending/smudging with other brushes in some of them though.
https://sanmingsanri.artstation.com/projects/g2PQr8

>>7717713
I've heard a lot of very good digital painters recommend that. But don't take it too strictly.
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>>7717723
I'll do this!
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>>7716669
watching EO58 has really shown me you don't need fancy brushes to get good results. The guy literally cycles through the same 5 brushes for 90% of his drawings. If anything a lot of it is a strong sketch and then some adjustment layers on top after you get your main pieces together
>85% of this was done with some form of HR, whether opacity of slight size with pressure
save for the initial clean sketch with a drawing brush and gradients after the painting was mostly done
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>>7717956
Its cool, i like the guy. Look a little bit to commercial for my taste, though.
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>>7718117
That's what I like about it, the raw energy of the hand movement it's able to capture.
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>>7717956
>The guy literally cycles through the same 5 brushes for 90% of his drawings
You really don't need more than what's included in the defaults of any painting program today.
>hard round
>soft round
>some sort of square brush or like the PS chalk tip
>built in "calligraphy" type flats, or
>flat brush made by squashing the X or Y shape of the round brush (I prefer with a small rotation ~20-30 degrees, can also make this follow pen travel direction)

Size them down and you have pens and pencils. Add in dynamics for size, density/flow, opacity and you can do almost anything and that's more than enough for most. Textured brushes are such a /beg/ trap, you even have that guy asking about learning to draw before moving on to "advanced brushes" lmao

A good textured pencil brush is really the only thing I'd make an allowance for to help kill the sterility of digital
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>>7717068
This is a beautiful painting. I dated some art history major who loved to go to museums together, the museums were often filled with things like this (made by black artists) or war and white guilt shit. So when something was well done she got to look at her feminist art while I got to study the brush strokes up close.

>>7717086
I don't think she'd be canceled today seeing how that white woman got $800k for cussing at a kid, but she would be in court. Maybe pre- election she would but now
>Both left and right hates jews
>Immigrants are getting majority hate
>troons on suicide watch (Though I think this one is normal)
the pendulum blasted towards the right.
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>>7718247
> the pendulum blasted towards the right
Cope, it went from neolib to neocon, but the media and the art world is ruled by the identity politic.
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>>7718184
>>7717956
Doesn't that guy scan his lineart and color it digitally?
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>>7717544
how can you tell its hard round if the aritst decides to blend
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>>7717724
what are some solid texture brushes?
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>>7718592
I don't know I spent too long using hard round and now its all I know how to use. I'm too lazy to learn anything else
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>>7716687
nice. Is this yours?
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>>7718653
maybe try downloading some random pack and play around with it
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>>7718247
>made by black artists
I didn't know that black people can paint like this. Or do you mean only the motif? Can you give me any examples of 19th-century style paintings by black people?
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>>7718689
> Is this yours?
I wish.
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>tfw i find myself having to use hard round AND soft round to complete studies
im ngmi........
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>>7716958
Literally posted years before AI models took off
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/74444146
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>>7716687
Longstitute is looong. Her proportions are all messed up.
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>>7720343
Meaning?
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>>7717735
>https://sanmingsanri.artstation.com/projects/g2PQr8
Wow these are great. Looks better than his finished stuff tbdesu. I wonder if he started them with sketches or just went right to blocking in shapes.
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When people talk about the HRB do they mean the one like this that's 100% opaque?
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>>7716687
sex
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>>7720583
I think they mean that the edges of the brush are hard, it can have lower opacity or flow.
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>>7720583
hard refers to the edge of the brush, as opposed to a soft edge
round is the shape, usually a perfect circle which is optimized in the drawing program for good performance even at high resolution
depending on who you ask, you can have opacity/flow on pen pressure or not, same with pressure on size. or control them manually with shortcuts.
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The biggest indie game ever created, was completely done with HRB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isBubEiVMDg
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>>7722282
This one has a hue jitter. Purists may not accept it.
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>>7720583
the tip being a circle or based on a circle

>>7722282
looks like ai sloppa or sloppa paintover
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>>7723036
artist is Pluviumgrandis and he usually just paints real life Refs and anime-fies it
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Do you guys manually raise/lower opacity or do you prefer to set it to pen pressure??
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>>7723948
pen pressure
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fantastic thread
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>>7720343
you're fucking retarded
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>>7723036
>sloppa paintover
Its 100% hand drawn, but coiuld be traced from ai, the colors and lighting is very ai-esque
>>7723790
Some texture brushes were used for this one
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Another artists I like.

>>7723948
Manually when blocking in, then on pen pressure when blending and detailing.
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>>7723036
>ai sloppa
>is clearly painted from photo

Do you fuckers ever go outside?
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>>7725341
*shits on your zoomnigger mouth*

aah that's a good prompt aight
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>>7725341
plenty of stuff can end up looking like AI sloppa, i see what that anon is getting at. but i recognize the photo they referenced, it's all over pinterest.
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>>7726124
i want to know why daisuke made ky look super zesty here
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>>7725357

give me an example of an ai slop that looks like that.
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i remember an ancient interview from craig mullins.

>give 10 people photoshop and the paintings look all kinda similar
>give 10 people a pencil and all dawings look different

i think going pure round hard is the pencil of digital.
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>>7726701

wow he's retarded
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>>7720583
All it describes is the shape.
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>>7726701
Craig Mullins, the grandaddy of digital painting? I highly doubt that he said that + it doesn't make any sense.
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>>7726740
https://youtu.be/ppbglg_FlKU?si=Vmma4ggOOYkp8aS1&t=1211

kinda funny that i INSTANTLY found it with the exact right part.
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>>7726749
he also agrees to my thesis right after this
>i think going pure round hard is the pencil of digital.

god this feels good.
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>>7726701
>give 10 people a pencil and all dawings look different
Go to any atelier and you'll know this to be false
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>>7726740
>Craig Mullins, the grandaddy of digital painting?
He is a turbo faggot, shilling ai since the beginning.
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>>7726763
https://www.creativebloq.com/digital-art/when-copying-another-artist-legitimate-31514372
He's always been a hack
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>>7726153
he is zesty
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hard square brush
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>>7727673
>hard square brush
Heresy!
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how do i get started with this it feels weird compared to my normal technique
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>>7729355
There really are no hard or fast rules. You should experiment with some studies first to get an idea of how it works. Personally I like playing with opacity and brush sizes to create a sense of depth. Sometimes I'll use layer modes but I try to keep that to a minimum.
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>>7729355
It literally just painting
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forgive me...
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cool stuff
here's a nice little hard round brush thing I saved in my inspiration folder 300 years ago (there may be some textured strokes here and there, I don't think the artist was trying to limit himself)
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I think this one uses a textured brush
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>>7730653
oops wrong one

artist: jimomommo_
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>>7716976
AIgger is my preferred terminology.
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>>7718653
"I fear not the man who has painted with ten thousand patreon exclusive brushes once, but I fear the man who has painted with one hard round brush ten thousand times."

-Andrew Loomis
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don't die on me
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>>7739366
we going all the way to the image limit
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some hot effing babes in this thread
me likey!
keep em comin, yo!
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its been ages since a thread made me check /ic/ daily.
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>>7716677
reminds me of the cover photos of lifelover's pulver album
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>>7723986
he's right though?
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>>7740033
artist?
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>>7740465
nah it just looks like that because the garterbelt is angled weird
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>>7740493
https://x.com/H939
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/40594
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>>7740465
He's not though?
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>>7720343
>coomslop retard confused at multiple body types
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>>7740462
cool album cover, the music is kinda ass though
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dont die precious thread.
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>>7747186
I won't let that happen!
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>>7725357
This is generated by AI
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>>7726153
he's french
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>>7747625
its older then ai, that cutie pie is a cake now
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So sad this artist deleted her art because of retards harassing her. Love her work. She became an inspiration of mine and I'd use her work as reference. I wish I could've saved it all before it got nuked.
Thankfully, some of it got reposted to other sites.
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>>7747983
Her and Cassette were my favorite artists who use this technique. But now Vankraut doesn't want to be online anymore, and Cassette is died.
It hurts bros.
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>>7747986
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>>7722287
this is sick
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>>7733465
kek kino
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>>7720583
I see a merchant
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>>7748499
its textured
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>>7742421
Artist?
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>>7747986
She is back on twitter has even posted a few new drawings
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>>7754398
link?
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>>7717068
What the hell? Who translated this?
In Polish Murzyn/Murzynka(for a man/woman) is like the normal way to talk about them unless you want to say something of the sort of "a man/woman of black skin color".
You wouldn't use it in talking to a person anyway because you don't casually go around and say "you asian" or "you white" or "you black" to anyone.
We've even got a cake called Murzynek (a black child) and nobody cares.
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>>7747983
Why did they harass her?
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>>7747983
Is it this German girl that was shilled here for a while?
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>>7727673
i say, whatever gets the job done, but most of my art is aimless and schizo offcentered.
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>>7754660
@VKRK_
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>>7716669
Beginner here.
I use hard round brush but I struggle when trying to use flow or opacity with the pen pressure.
Feels like it makes it way harder to control my values.
Could keeping flow and opacity at 100% be a viable approach? And just picking picking color carefully.
Any artist that do that ?
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>>7755156
>account is locked
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>>7756104
yeah hopefully she'll unlock it soon
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>>7756127
Why are x (formerly twitter) artists so mentally unstable?
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>>7756035
It makes blending/mixing not possible and you have to know all the colors you want ahead of time.

You should learn how the pressure curves work for your tablet first, then in your application's brush. I prefer the soft curve where you spend most of the time near 100% but if you need to use a lower density/flow, you can.
https://www.davidrevoy.com/article182/calibrating-wacom-stylus-pressure-on-krita/show

Set a keyboard shortcut to enable/disable flow pressure sensitivity since you don't always want it.
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>>7757247
I paint fine with a 100% opacity brush, you just need a separate blending brush. It's not really any harder. There's also some artists who don't even make gradients and use pointillism to blend colors.
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>>7757353
I wasn't talking to you
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>>7756035
you just have to get used to it, the investment is worth the effort because it ultimately will give you the most control. there's a reason why professional artists are still using the hard round + eyedropper method to this day
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Yohann Schepacz's Big Cat Round Brush project is super inspiring. The guy's got such a firm grasp of color and form.
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Gloss does use textures but 90% of his work is done with hard brush.
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>>7742421
Artist???????????????
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>>7759000
>>7753806
>>7742421
https://bason.artstation.com/
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>>7757247
>>7757737
Alright, I understand. Thank you guys, I’ll work on it.
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>>7758030
100% of his work is done with the most textured and abstract shapes possible, what the fuck are you on anon?
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>>7757851
Thats cool
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