Why does it feel like nobody here cares about "making it" anymore?Have things really gotten that bad
>>7739445I'm not even going to lie.I hate seeing artists more successful than me to the point where I just flat out want them to fail. I dream of making animated productions and to make anything worth a shit you need money and multiple people. Unfortunately, I am not in a position where that is possible and between my 60 hours a week job I don't have the time to animate big stories. Everytime I see industry animation or even successful indie work, it makes my blood boil. I dream of the day where both the animation industry and the indie scene collapses in on itself.If I can't make it, no one can
>>7739445>Have things really gotten that badNah, I believe that art jobs are still increasing at present? If you're worried about AI, while the future is vague in that regard, the current issues plaguing industries such as animation are forces beyond (and older than) AI... mostly incompetence, but also just plain ol' corporate greed ("why make domestic productions when we can get cheaper foreign ones?").As for why people aren't talking about 'making it' as much. I've noticed there's a heavy push back now on those who say it, from not only the indians espousing their new AI god, but a lot of faggots on here who have given up and now demand others also only treat art as a hobby - so sour grapes essentially, like the faggot above me (who I assume is posting bait, or he really is a loser beyond redemption).If you ARE worried about AI, don't forget that a door opens for every one that closes; if AI really does destroy the animation industry, the video game industry, can make decent comics, etc etc, is that really something for artists to fear? Fuck that. If AI can be used to replace the employee, it can be used to replace the employer.Why do you need to join a big animation studio when a small team (or an individual) can make a quality animated feature film with AI?Why do you need to join a video game company, if you can use AI to make solo development that much easier?Why stress about the work that goes into making a comic when an AI could ink and colour it for you, seriously reducing your workload?AI is only a threat until the jobs are gone, and then it's a weapon against the very corporations that made its employees redundant in favour of it.I don't even think AI will do that, I think it's overblown by a bunch of curry eating hype men, but my point is that there's no reason to think things are bleak.Rise above the tear stained losers, forge your own path if there isn't one.To all those who put in the effort? We're all gonna make it.
Maybe.>grab my beloved Wacom tablet>AI and 12 year old tiktokers drawing better, cheaper and faster than me.>open my favourite DAW >AI does it better, cheaper and faster than me.>open up my favourite IDE, gonna develop a game>indie market is flooded, 12 year olds code with AI to make games better, cheaper and faster than me>grab my knitting needles.>People with knitting machines do it better, cheaper and faster than me.>think of just building some little figurines.>neighbour uses his 3D printer to make them better, cheaper and faster than me.>think of the cool acrylic stuff at conventions people make, it'd be cool to learn that>find out they outsource their production to China where people make their products better, cheaper and faster than me>I don't have a business license to sell cute goods like that anyway, having a stall costs money too and I'm a notalent noname>go to store and buy ingredients to make bread.>come home, find bread on the table. >"Oh, they had left-over bread at the bakery, where they bake it better, cheaper and faster than you.">put my ingredients away, maybe I can bake during the next pandemic.>look at my art account with open commissions and finally, someone sent me a message!>"Bro in 3rd world country on Fiverr draws better, cheaper and faster than you, he can do more with those 5 bucks than you can do in your country with 50 bucks">quit my shitty cleaning job, immediately move to third world country>die of malariaEverything and everyone tells me that I'm ngmi...>>7739447I kinda get it.I wish I didn't need money and could just pursue art out of pure interest. But no, gotta be a work drone while companies give trillions to AI to make art... I thought we'd be post-scarcity by now, why does my country want to gamble away our pension money and instate a 48 hour work week? Meanwhile my landlord gets half my earnings for doing jackshit and comes up with excuses for why he has to enter my flat while I'm out. Sucks.
Drawing isn't a competition. You are not competing with other artists (or Ai) over something like money or fame. If you don't enjoy drawing, just quit.
>>7739480>not knowing what making it meansLurk moar
>>7739445I just wanted to make it for the money. But I realized that 1 - There are better ways to make money , 2- I'm too lazy to take on comissioning.
>>7739447You suck like interstellar space
>>7739487it changes right? last time making it was becoming a concept artist, LOL
>>7739445AI drove a number of /ic/ artists into a well of despair. 2022 to 2024 was a Holocaust of optimism. Some permabeg and int plateau autists dream of a day when they can make $200 in NSW comms every month, but the majority of /ic/abods are content with a brief life of coomzoom consumption followed by a razor in the bathtub.
>>7739464based optimist. if you were a woman I would plap you.
>>7739447this sentiment is why cancelation is the name of the game now. everyone feels this way. we will crab the everloving fuck out of every uppity artie who tries to make it.
>>7739445I'm too retarded to make it so i never made it, so here i am, wasting away with what little time that has been given to me. Owari da...
>>7739445I care but, it's really just a side bonus game
>>7739445>>>/r9k/82617218
>>7739445Do you really have to ask? It's AI, dude. It's crushed the souls of all but the most passionate artists. The motivation to even bother to pick up a pencil is at an all-time low.
>>7743413Why would people who like drawing stop just because a robot does it better?
>>7743416There's less social validation to go around if AI slop already impresses all the normalfags.
>>7743413It's depressing and terrifying as fuck, I won't even pretend to deny that. But look at it this way.Imagine if in 2019 someone had told you that a pro artist would be your 24/7 on demand slave. He would draw absolutely anything you wanted, you could ask for as many corrections and alterations as possible, but you would still get all the credit. Would you have wanted that?If you have any integrity or creativity as an artist, hopefully the answer is no. The point isn't just to have someone else create your vision. The point is for YOU to create YOUR vision. To make what only you can create. The specificity of your vision isn't something that can be conveyed in words, or by pointing to existing examples. It's something that only you yourself can create, through the act of actually doing it.Of course if all you wanted to do was make anime pinups for twitter likes then yeah you're pretty fucked.
>>7739469>AI does it better AI doesn't do anything, it has no agency, no will. You might as well be saying that you'll never get better at maths because a calculator can crunch numbers faster and more accurately than you, or how you'll never take up running because a car is faster than you.
>>7739445Around 2005 there was a delusion that you could make six plus figures doing drawings for video games and shit.Twenty years later there is nothing to “make it” to. AI aside ( the deathblow for concept bros) people realized the math ain’t mathing. Spend 2 to 5 years grinding to maybe get good or pay out the nose for a university education to GO PRO and maybe make what? 30k? 60k? A year?I think everyone grew up.
>>7739898reddit9k discovers PTSD and proceeds to blame the victim classic
>>7739469>indie market is flooded, 12 year olds code with AI to make games better, cheaper and faster than meAI slows down programming. No one has made a good game with AI. If you enjoyed art you'd do it regardless of whether AI can do it. You are a coping 90 IQ fag.
I'm just tired. I can't draw for longer than 2 hours now, and even then I'll be knocked out the rest of the day rotting and doomscrolling. I just don't have it in me anymore to get lost in a drawing. I make money with art but now that I know how many dollars i make per hour, its no longer enjoyable.
>>7739447You are everything wrong with society as a whole right now lmao
>>77438532 hours is plenty of time to improve each day and more than what most people do here.
>>7739445I'm simply ok with just being a hobbiest and drawing what I want.
>>7739445Economy is absolutely fucked and there's no regular jobs where I am, let alone people being able to afford commissionsAlso to Make It for a lot of people is just about the money, which means trend hopping, spamming self promotion, or even becoming a fucking YouTube """artist"""And I just don't want to do any of those no matter how much they would pay
>>7743493>>I think everyone grew up.It's this, but not for the reasons you say.Millennials grew up, and those who didn't make it, had to get real jobs and give up on making it, or at best keep it as a silly side hobby they don't take seriously.Meanwhile zoomzooms do not believe in hard work and discipline, and would rather rot their brains while AI does everything, so they don't ever dream of making it in the first place.Society has crushed everyone's souls.
>>7743420If they're drawing for validation and not for art's sake, it's hard to be too upset for them.
>>7744249that's kinda based.
>>7744249Yeah I'm not falling for that boomer/millenial/zoomer thing. Just because the media really wants to push an age gap war to make people bitch at each other and not them doesn't mean most of that is actually true. remember when they wouldn't shut the fuck up about Avocado toast?No, the current generations were born into the hell we had to slowly watch happen. They've been molded by it and ave better mental tools to deal with it, but the problem is things have only gotten worse. So now, they're also dealing with things and having to find coping mechanisms because, frankly, the world moves too fast even for them. The fact that the idea of just running shooter drills is so commonplace that they understand the concept intrinsically is scary as shit. They just accept it as fact.I honestly don't blame them for just distracting the fuck out of themselves. They're not even allowed to have decent childhoods before they're being marketed and lied to now. They have to get smart or be swallowed by the current. We atleast had some options, even if they hated all of ours just as much.
AI killed art, it's not dying it's dead.Economy is in the shitter so hobbies like this are impossible and considered a waste of time>>7744249We deserve better jobs, get more money and more free time but instead the jew is sucking every millennial dry with 10 hours per day which is basically slavery and Gen X will never retire until the day the die. Zoomers are fucking failures and the entry level of drawing is too damn high. This is also why AI is taking over. Art is not the only hobby that is going down the drain. Also when i say zoomers i'm referring to ameritards not (you) specifically
>>7745638you realize majority of billionaires are not jews right?
>>7745642some are Shabbos goys
>>7745642>don't bow to the magic wall >so totally not jewMost of them come from jewish families, Blackrock owns america (the continent). Investment and credit is illegal according to the bible.
>>7745648Then why are multiple of the ones that are so prolific have direct lineage to nazis?
>>7745653IDF in action lmao
>>7745653Rabbi please
>>7745655quick question where did Peter Thiel come from?
>>7745677>Peter ThielWOAH BUDDY! You really cooked with this one, shlomo.
>>7745677The owner of paypal? the payment system that's currently blocked in 80% of the world by visa and mastercard? Same payment system i can no longer use to buy my manchild games from steam? Based rabbi censoring the goy to protect the children
My wife has been sick and out of work since January, and I had no time to draw at all until recently. The vultures are circling and life will get worse sooner than later. What I am drawing now is an ink pen as sketch similar to this : randomly designed an hour at a time. Anything that makes it to paper is a win.I will generate content as long as I can,but I doubt that fame will find my creations in my lifetime, which is a common thing for artists. Maybe I will reincarnate a hundred years from now and see my characters sitting next to the Disney stuff in Walmart.
>>7744274"Art for art's sake" is a meme.Everything we do is for the validation of other people. We're social animals. We like attention. It's hardwired.In fact this is what makes bugmen and Pajeets deficient, they seem to actually be lacking this natural social instinct in some ways, which is why they want to just upload their minds to the matrix and live in VR for the rest of eternity.
I’ve been here since like 2012. I’m a pretty accomplished artist but there’s no use posting here because people care more about adapting style over learning . I’m also not a big anime guy.
>>7745716kino drawing
>>7745894Thanks. This is my project at the moment,after 9 months of being too busy, too tired or to hurt to draw. I come home from work, smoke a bowlful of inspiration and add a little detail here,a little infrastructure there. The other picture was a study of creating Dripping Eye Landscapes, with foreground eyes dividing up the negative spaces to be stuffed with mini glimpses into a far away place,sometimes with a guest star from other comics of mine,anything to anchor an environment convincingly around them.
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>>7745824No one is more obsessed with validation and numbers on a graph than pajeets and bugmen though.
