The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.Previous thread:>>7759985Some resources:/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asgBooks:Understanding Comicshttps://e-hentai.org/g/2042453/83e7da6ed0/Making Comicshttps://annas-archive.org/md5/d55168f7579c1e23275d1fc9f0a2255dManga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Mangahttps://annas-archive.org/md5/2877da11e2f852d220853e9944e6ea49Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwritinghttps://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/Even a Monkey Can Draw Mangahttps://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdfThe Shonen Jump Guide to Making Mangahttps://mega.nz/file/i81imLpI#GcheJ9Jjk3lw1RE9nQWgL4RG4wEBNOcRmgA-iaU6WpgVideos:"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videosManben link can be found on archive.org on different pages separated by season: https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/1bu9f0y/found_all_of_naoki_urasawas_manben_and_manben_neo/Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videosOP image is from The Callous Swordsman Chapter 4.
>>7769940Some western / indie publishers of Manga:Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.> Seemingly taking submissions at present if https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/pages/submissions is anything to go on.Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )> *The* western manga publisher.> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.> Still might be worth a shot anyway.Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )> Small indie manga publisher> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes> Allows crossposting to other sitesIconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/)>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration
>>7769941Other open comic publishers:Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faqTop Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).Additional publisher lists:> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/
>>7769942/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onographyhttps://discord.gg/QYnFBves7Vhttps://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9(Anthology project is defunct but the discord is alive)Additional community added Resources:Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videosGanmo, a job listing board for manga assistant work: https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/postsHow (You) can help /mmg/:> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.> Don't be a crab> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effort posts that help you for posterity.
>>7769940If your one-shot has had no legibility issues upon test reading to both avid readers and people new to the medium as a whole, but you've noticed that you could improve the art noticeably, should you try redoing the whole thing or just try and publish it and start working on things like the first chapter or a less ambitious project?
>>7769972Unless you had a jump in artwork like going from ONE to Murata, I would just publish and move on to the next thing. Redos only beget the temptation for further redos.
>>7769596Assuming you're using a nib, you have to practice dragging the nib facing away from you as opposed to pushing it. Some of that also involves some of that whole forearm movement stuff. If you're getting blobs of ink you are either A. Drowning the nib in too much ink or B. Pressing too hard. Ease up. That being said people tend to gravitate towards zebra G nibs, which I hate for being too flexible and also have a hard time using. They aren't a good beginner tool for the mechanically challenged.
>>7769996What do you do for inkwells? I don't have a real one so I've just been putting some ink in a shotglass every time I need to use it, but I find that quite wasteful
>>7769996>you have to practice dragging the nib facing away from you as opposed to pushing it. Some of that also involves some of that whole forearm movement stuff.I mostly just use my wrists to move which might be a significant part of the problem. You're also right in that I'm pushing too deep into it. It takes me some amount of force to have control over my wrist movements so maybe moving more of my arm is a significant solution. I do also just dip the whole thing in ink lol.>Zebra G nibsDang those are the ones I just ordered. I should be fine but they seemed the best in-terms of quality and affordability. There were some that were cheaper but I didn't find as good reviews.
>>7769998I just dip it in the bottle.
>>7769984It's not, and honestly my one-shot is more focused on the story and concepts than my actual drawing abilities. I thought that was the whole point of a one-shot, and then a publisher sees whether you're worth investing in or not to get things serialized or use you for something else.I'm thinking I'll just apply some more shading throughout my works over all and just figure out the best way to showcase things. If I really want to showcase my current artistic abilities I can probably make do with just redoing the cover.
>>7769518Oh i get that as well. I'm doing the same, keeping things hidden, my reasons are just more Christian in nature, but i understand where you're coming from and i think it's smart.>>7769578That's great! Looking forward to it!
>>7769998>>7770031Same I just use the bottle, I have a big 350 ml'er bottle and will just clean out the old spare inkwells real good and reuse them.Zebra G's are really loosy goosy, but they mark buttery smooth and the flexibility can be great to alternate between very thin lines and thick ones but you have to be deliberate with your mark making. Here's my full toolkit btw, I prefer flexibility of using other things than just nibs, just whatever gets the job done the best.
>>7770063Yeah. I knew going into this isn't the place to get story critique or really anything serious but I have to start somewhere. I've revealed more than I'm comfortable with honestly but I'm not someone who is particularly secretive and it's not really a big deal regardless.
>>7770079Oh i understand. I hope you do good. Just make sure to do what you do with joy.
Not completely done with thumbnailing and sketching all pages for the next chapter yet, but at this point I just want a break from the mentally draining work and start inking some pages.
>>7770158Impressive work Anon.
>>7770165i dont think its his
Are we just being inundated with newfags or something?
>>7770158great art, gj!
>>7770175After people left due to the sharty hacks someone must have wished on a monkey's paw for the user count to rise.
>>7770119I'll try and be less tense. I have a lot of things to be grateful for though I'm certainly further behind than I'd like to be. I might post something new, probably not since I am preparing to meet up with more people and actually getting involved in the industry so I'm not just rolling dice on random people online.
>>7770175it's over, ic has fallen. it's time to migrate to tumblr
>>7770182I'm proud of you for getting this far.
>>7770182>>7770191Can you guys stop making out and post some art?
>>7770210Why so unpolite Anon?Do you need some love too?Come tell us your troubles, this is the healing part of the thread.>post some art?What little drawings i have suck but here, have a bird, my best work yet.
>>7770191Genuinely appreciate it. I have further to go towards but I have something good and I should focus on that instead of what I'm not.>>7770220Cute cardinal. One of my first jobs involved me drawing birds.
>>7770226>Genuinely appreciate it. I have further to go towards but I have something good and I should focus on that instead of what I'm not.I wish you the best of luck and the best of focus.>Cute cardinal. One of my first jobs involved me drawing birds.Thanks!
>every second or third post is trip posting nowUgh. I'll come back in two weeks.
>>7770256>tripfags>nomanga tripfags>born again christian loser nomanga tripfags moralfagging against porn and trying to convince our most successful anon to sabotage himself>also trying to poach /mmg/ anons to some /co/ faggotry insteadI might never be back
>>7770306>christian loser nomanga tripfags moralfagging against pornAt least I have the decency to not tripfag my faith.
>>7770242If you're a true Christian, have some empathy, please recognize when you are not wanted here and go away. Thank you.
>>7770323Thread has had a pretty decent and productive start, I'd rather have him over the people complaining.
>>7770327Low key this does seem like the kind of thing where the complaining becomes worse than the initial problem itself. It happens a lot on this board.Except for Fred. That hate is justified
>>7770067We have almost the exact same set up I had to do a double take. Down to the way you have your ink stored.
>>7770323Apart of being Christian is to share God's Love and Truth even in places where we are not wanted.
>>7770367>Go forth, be annoying, and try to stop everyone everywhere from having funI guess he invented you for the same reason he invented gnats and fleas
>>7770306>born again christian loser nomanga tripfags moralfagging against porn and trying to convince our most successful anon to sabotage himselfHey wait a minute, there are few Anons who go between /mmg/ and /hyw/ to know this, and even fewer who would twist the story in such a way.Devil's Moon Anon, is that you?
>>7770371I know you joke but your greentext is actually not far off from how Jesus' apostles went and preached about Christ.
>>7770367You can count me in as another anon who wants you to stop tripposting. You asked for it past thread, now you've gotten it. This is in addition to the other anons who have already stated they don't want it either even if you weren't directly quoted. What's your next excuse, instead of "its only one anon" its going to be "its only several anons?" Stop clogging up the thread.
>>7770384>Stop clogging up the thread.I'm gonna be honest, the way i see it, i'm not the one making multiple posts complaining about someone who's trying to have nice conversations about creativity and drawings.
>>7770387>nice conversations about creativity and drawings.This is a manga making general. As long as you are using your trip and name, we know exactly who is not making a manga.
>>7770367God wants his followers to have empathy for their fellow men. Now kindly read the room and fuck off.
>>7770387You're making the thread all about yourself instead of anons who are drawing manga. Go away, it's not funny.
Is Jump still the go-to for every wannabe mangaka in Japan nowadays?Nobody seems to give much shit about Magazine, Sunday, Champion, Gangan, etc.I mean, look at people on the internet, whenever a new series is announced on Jump, everyone to their mom knows about it.But jeez, imagine yourself spending 12 months planning, preparing, meeting, revising, and finishing your work just to have it cancelled withing 19 weeks.
>>7770387>trying to have nice conversations about creativity and drawings>Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.>drawing and making comics and mangaYou do neither of these. You do not belong here.
>>7770388OK. Doesn't hurt to give support and help others.>>7770391I do have empathy, that's why i am here, because i know people in these creativity threads need kind loving support.>>7770392All i did was have conversations with others and compliment their work.The only ones making this about me are the ones who are complaining about me.>>7770395I don't have to be to search for works to support.
>>7770306the weeaboo spirit is strong, we will not let this /co/ invasion break us
>>7770394Unless you live in Japan you wouldn't really know since Jump is the only one with international reach. Those magazines are still in business so obviously have a steady readership, which means they have a steady stream of creators. 99% of anime and manga 'fans' are by default going to be shallow plebs who only look at the most mainstream, easily digestible examples.
>>7770396Turn the other cheek instead of getting defensive and arguing. You don't behave like a good Christian.
Let the guy post his supportive comments. If you dont like him then just ignore him or filter him.
>>7770158Cute. I like their little chins.Small critique, ignore it if you want but that text bubble font is making me crosseyed, comic sans would shine here.
>>7770402>just ignore him or filter him>just ignore or filter 25-30% of ALL comments in /mmg/ from now onDude.
>>7770407yes.
Trad anons, how do you deal with cropping pages you scan to all be the same dimensions for print or publishing? Cropping manually always leaves me many pixels off, and I am never sure if I should be cropping along the trim lines on the paper, or to the physical edges of the paper and let the printer take it from there
>>7770413Are you using quark, indesign or something similar?
>>7770431No, never heard of them. I am using an Epson scanner and CSP to clean up.
>>7770432>CSPoh right, it has comic features, i forgoti've never user clip for editorial design, but indesign pretty much outlines margins, printing margins, you can manually add printer clasps margins and also add cutting linesbtw, what your process? do you draw each panel traditionally, scan them and place each one in order on software?
>>7770413With all the "how to" interviews of various mangakas, you'd think one of them would have spilled the beans on these sorts of procedures as well.
>>7770443The as an author you don't handle that stuff, the publisher does. You just hand over the pages/source files.
I've procrastinated for too long.I'll never get my horror webtoon out by Halloween.
I blame coloring too. I HATE it in photoshop, I'm finally going to get CSP if it is easier to color in.
>>7770477>I blame coloring too. I HATE it in photoshopAs the (possibly) only other PS user in this thread, what's your problem with the coloring? I've used CSP from time to time and both seem to color basically the same to me.
Im at a point where im going to do a practice run of the first chapter of my comic. Im trying this to get out of practice and fundies purgatory. Lol
>>7770505>practice run of an entire chapter just to do it a second timeYour art skills are already good enough to NOT have to do this, anon. I believe in you.
>>7770486I think there are 3 or 4 of us that still give money to Adobe, but if the coloring is similar than I'll just stick to what I know.
>>7770437>btw, what your process? do you draw each panel traditionally, scan them and place each one in order on software?No, I draw it all traditionally then scan the full page in>>7770466The issue is that a scanner will always scan a much larger bed area than your physical paper. My question is how to get each scan trimmed down to the same size, or if that even matters for printing.
>>7770394Shonens are the only thing popular in the West. I gave up trying to appeal to English speakers when I realized that. >>7770396These people you're replying to are genuinely stupid and you're completely fine. Anime (or manga people will act like the fanbase acts differently) gets a bad rep in the West for a good reason and it's because the fanbase is both extremely pretentious while never reading something that isn't filled with pictures their whole life.
>>7770400Again, the apostles did the same thing, in fact they were more brutal than me, they got angry and Paul even used the power of God to blind people.The way i am acting is actually more chill than how the apostles acted, the people Jesus Himself trained and mentored to share His Word and Truth.
>>7770537Are you really comparing yourself to Paul and Judas? Jesus knew his apostles were imperfect and personally forgave them for it. You don't have such luxury.
>>7770534>Shonens are the only thing popular in the West.And Berserk. And Pun Pun. And Sailor Moon. And Vinland Saga. And Vagabond.
>>7770475>>7770477I like your designs. What horrors can we expect from your comic?>>7770505Ooohh, i like that pumpkin man! I like how you drew his eyes at the bottom as well.>>7770534>Shonens are the only thing popular in the West. I gave up trying to appeal to English speakers when I realized that.I think magical girls, slice of life and romance are pretty popular in the west as well. There's also isekai but that's become more divisive nowadays.>These people you're replying to are genuinely stupid and you're completely fine. Anime (or manga people will act like the fanbase acts differently) gets a bad rep in the West for a good reason and it's because the fanbase is both extremely pretentious while never reading something that isn't filled with pictures their whole life.I'll be honest, despite what they tell me i feel bad for them and i hope they manage to find peace and success with their works some day.
>>7770547Those are all shonens
>>7770549Don't ever post in this thread again.
>>7770543You, please stop. You're misrepresenting the gospel and just helping to derail the thread.>>7770537You, you're casting pearls and also derailing. I cant even tell if you're genuine or trolling, but either way it's not helping.
>>7770543I never compared myself to them i just used them as an example that what you see as "not being a good follower of Christ" is actually more normal than you think.And yes i do have that luxury, and you do too, every human on Earth has that luxury, that's how we're all able to achieve salvation, we just have to accept that forgiveness, live our lives and Holy as possible and help others on their journey.Also Judas was a disciple of Jesus but he wasn't an apostle as he committed suicide before the disciples became apostles.In fact a disciple is someone who is simply a follower of Christ and learns form Him as the Greek word for disciple refers to a "leaner", while the apostle are people who have been sent to do tasks by Jesus himself as the Greek word for apostle means "one who is sent".
>>7770551>You, you're casting pearlsYou're right, i thought that this would be a good opportunity to help others learn about Christ but i tend to be wrong about this stuff and i am sorry.I am also sorry that i made this post >>7770555 as i posted it before refreshing the page and read your post.
>>7770547>Sailor MoonWhat are you talking about? Nobody below 30 even knows what that is outside of people who just use it for the aesthetic. >Vinland Saga, Punpun, Berserk, VagabondExceptions, the Internet deemed that reading those made you smart and/or aesthetic. They honestly got really lucky.
>>7770561Oh I see, nothing is going to count until it is your one specific niche meme manga
>>7770561>Madoka, Gundam, My Dress Up Darling, Frieren, Card Captor Sakura, Ghost in the Shell, Jojo
>>7770341It just works. The thing I have my pens sitting on is something I diy'd from an empty fruit snack box. Holds pens, eraser dust, nice place to keep my ink.>>7770532I used the csp ruler tools along the actual guide lines for every page, then I just crop it off where it normally would be in print for web. In CSP you can designate borders under View > Cropmark/Default Border settings. I keep a separate file with rulers I can snap the selection tool to and also have something for page numbers like so. Also also, you can use the auto action feature so you don't need to put in the borders manually every time. This way, every single page is processed exactly the same.You are likely safe cutting everything up to the final line (usually the ruled lines) for your master copy to use for print, I guess if you want to be extra safe you could also just leave them completely alone for your master copies. I wanna say that will probably cover you from any accidents if you have enough artwork along the edges if you have stuff that goes to bleed. Anyway better safe than sorry.
I imagine the average shonen reader to be a mouthbreathing esl who doesn't have two braincells to rub together. And someone who reads anything else to be a well mannered and intelligent individual.
>>7770575Sorry the weebs are indeed into the "tfw no gf" stuff, the rest are old as hell and JoJo is literally a shonen. So was Berserk also.>No but they're not Shonen JumpThey were for a significant portion of their time and got mostly boosted by the anime. >>7770584> And someone who reads anything else to be a well mannered and intelligent individual.If you say so, most people in the West if they aren't watching shonen is moe or really bad fantasies i.e. Dress Up Darling. If you unironically believe your statement you are probably not as smart as you think you are.
>>7770601>So was Berserk also.No, it was not. Young Animal is and always was an seinen magazine. JJBA WAS a shounen manga, yes, but since the mid-2000s it moved to a seinen manga publication and thus became a seinen manga.Insane that you would think Berserk is a Jump property btw. Have you never looked anything up in your life?
>>7770602>No, it was not. Young Animal is and always was an seinen magazine.It was originally marketted as a Shonen, mostly because Shonen as a genre wasn't really defined during the 80s and stuff like Fist of the North Star, basically the creator of the Shonen structure, would absolutely be considered a seinen today. It was not serialized by Shonen Jump though and that was Mandela effect on my part.That's what happens when you bounce between stuff popular because of high budgeted anime adaptations and Jump specific manga publications. Maybe you joined in the middle of the conversation but it was talking about why only things from Shonen Jump. I assumed it was obvious that series with popular anime adaptations would be popular in the West because they don't read manga or really comics period unless it's popular thing.
>>7770603You're just rambling at this point, shut up and make something
>>7770603>It was originally marketted as a ShonenUh, no? It was a direct successor to the publisher's previous seinen magazine. At no point was it ever marketed toward shounen.>Shonen as a genre wasn't really defined during the 80sUh, yes it fucking was. It was manga aimed at shounen. 少年. Young boys, rough 8-16 years old. You seem to know absolutely nothing about what you're talking about so you can just shut up now.>Fist of the North Star, basically the creator of the Shonen structure, would absolutely be considered a seinen today.If it's published in a shounen magazine then it is a shounen manga, full stop. Shounen is a demographic, nothing more. Same way "Young Adult" is not a genre but a demographic that people mistake for a genre. The only thing that decides if it's a YA novel is if it's aimed at young adults.
>>7770604I have and even have posted it. I stopped caring because all you guys do is whine and moan. You're not as smart as you think you are, and your trolling is only wasting your time. We were having a fine discussion about drawing techniques and stuff to make comics without you.
>>7770580>It just works. The thing I have my pens sitting on is something I diy'd from an empty fruit snack box. Holds pens, eraser dust, nice place to keep my ink.Neat. I just use the box my ink container came in, and have an old pencil case for the remainder. My setup is definitely in-need of some cleaning though. It has a bunch of colored pencils I no longer use to color pages.
They should make a shonen battle series about the bible.
>>7770505Cool artstyle. Keeping the pencil sketches for most of it actually adds quite a bit of charm.
thinking about using a custom font for my artstyle. does it fit better? right is my writing basically
>>7770683Looks good to me
>>7770413What I did is scan to the trim, and then use that pixel height and width as the standard for all other pages. Yes some will be slightly off here and there, but i figure it's the nature of the medium. I don't even think each page's blue lines are perfectly printed anyways. However, I'm using A4 size paper (which is like B5 drawing area), and printing at A5 and A6 since B Page sizes arent available, so the crops are messed up a bit in the final books. Going forward, I'm actually adding extra trim to pages which resolves the issue. I need to go back and add extra trim to all of Vol2
>>7770683now that is what autism looks likeno offense, kebabman
>>7770683Your handwriting fits well, and the font is a solid recommendation. Wouldn't change that.
>>7770413I scan a blank page that has all the bleed and outline marks on it, then edit the whole image's contrast/brightness so that the blank comic page is visibly distinct from the background/scanner (you can also achieve this effect by layering a large black sheet of paper behind the comic blank).Then I crop accordingly so that the blank comic page is the only thing in the image.I use that as my "master copy" for the size and note the dimensions/dpi.Then after scanning and starting digital editing/formatting, you can just plug in your canvas dimensions and resize/crop your page scans as needed.
>>7770683I like the style of the comic. And sorry but i do not understand that language. Will there be a translation?
>>7770693Wow this is really good! I love those character designs!
Hi guys, looking for feedback on Chapter 3 of Detective Hefferchu. It's on webtoons, tapas, globalcomix, and pixiv, links at https://efsius.netI'll also be streaming throughout today drawing inktober requests + random comics, if you want to chat about comics.https://www.twitch.tv/efsius1/https://www.youtube.com/@efsius1/streamsIf you've read through the chapter, what is your favorite joke?
since Jake credited finding this thread to me I'm gonna just say i'm so fucking sorry. I didn't mean to "bring" him here. I really wish something could just convince him to fuck off but nothing will. I'm incredibly fucking sorry. I mean it. I've felt bad about this for days and still do. I'm apparently unable to exist without ruining everything I touch.
>>7770947Only $999 for sigma male bootcamp? What a steal. I'll buy 10.
>>7770947What's this about? Is it SFW?
>>7770955You're both tourists. Just take your drama back to /co/. Your complaining is just as bad as tripfagging. Don't act morally superior here. Oi anon is practically the only crossposter who doesn't bring this baggage with him. Ironically, me saying that about him is the most drama that will come about it.
>>7770975ty while you have your wallet out can I interest you in some heffercoin?>>7771012gag comic, dt. hefferchu helps a lonely guy understand the thin line between love and scams
>>7771062>gag comic, dt. hefferchu helps a lonely guy understand the thin line between love and scamsThat's so sweet.
>>7771060I'm sorry
>>7771062>CSULB>cal state university long beachHell yeah brother.
Maybe a cultural exchange will do us good. Someone send some /mmg/ Manga to /co/ and being back some comics
>>7771141I think a via program will work as well for us as it is for Japan and India
>>7771141Granted. Betz is now a regular here as opposed to /hyw/.
>>7771129gmwd2w
>>7771141/hyw/ comics are by and large made by anons who do not care about the craft, they just want to tell a story as quickly as possible. The ones who try to make a nice comic have already posted in /mmg/ before. Conversely, /mmg/ material posted on /hyw/ tends to be outright ignored.I say this as somebody who quietly keeps an eye on any /hyw/ threads that pop up for the last year or three. /aco/ used to have their own /hyw/ and that was a genuinely welcoming place regardless of subject matter but those went away once most posters ended up only wanted to do one offs of their OC waifus getting fucked and little in the way of actual comics.
>>7771148Great. No one use the monkey paw anymore please.God, sometimes I just wish these anons would just go to reddit instead.
>>7770506Thank you for the kind words. The practice run is at a smaller scale, so it should be quick. Plus my goal is to paywall the comic after chapter 3 or 5. So I feel like I need some practice runs to make something worth paying money for.>>7770548>>7770619Thanks fellas.
>>7771177This isn't a continuation of Death Mask, is it?
>>7771183Nope, this is another story called Pumkin Seed its a medevial fantasy type story. Image above is the last thing I drew of Death Mask. Which will most likely be my 3rd or 4rth series (if everything goes as planned).
>>7770683hand writing is the epitome of sovl, the other font is good but it will always feel a little cold to the reader
>can't find a decent brush I like>change brushes every panel>look like a schizo but I'm not redrawing
I feel like I'm losing my mind here. This was the winner of the 2025 May silver award for Mangaplus Shueisha, allowing it to be formally published on the website:>Ridiculously mediocre on all fronts, especially compared to many contestants from different months and years that didn't even win a honorable mention.>After some digging, the author didn't even draw the art, it was commissioned from a low profile artist on Reddit.>Despite having significantly less views, likes, favorites, comments and engagement then the competitor below it (11th place) on the general rankings, it still for no reason at all clung onto 10th place against all odds, allowing it to be visible for formal evaluation>And on top of all this, it also seems to be the only winner to have been personally commented on by judges in years, for seemingly no reason.Don't tell me they even have psyop bullshit in the manga industry now, please. Please.
>>7770220 your creation is the jar
>>7771440>Don't tell me they even have psyop bullshit in the manga industry now, please.I won't tell you then. It's always been like this, this is just one of the more blatant ones.
>>7771243Man good composition on this pic right here. Tight as fuck
>>7771443I don't get it.
>>7771440the art style is pretty cool and unique, I cant believe some random reddit artist for hire did it. Man... there are so many good artists in the world and so few comics being made.
>>7771440Man whoever is reviewing it doesnt give a fuck about the comic at all>We see this shit from time to time, but its really good here..just becauseFuck man you fags have no excuse not to make it.>but Im white and I post on /pol/ blah blah blahShut the fuck up bitch were GMI
>>7771447I genuinely always thought the manga industry's beauty was its strict meritocracy (if you are good, we will take you) offset by sacrificing your health and sanity, it can't have always been like this right? Where is the incentive, why would they do this.
>>7771454It's a good honest review made for a short and simple column. What did you expect? The guy is giving praise to the comic because he loved it that much.
>>7771454how are we supposed to make it when we are literally discussing proof that you will get pushed aside for medicore schemers (in this case not even another artist, a hack ideaguy writer) for reasons out of your control, like wtf
>>7771440do they write reviews like this for shonen stuff with magic powers? Or is it just because this ones about real life and more mature issues?
>>7771460I did some more checking. A variety of manga of all genres have all received the awards before, none of them have been commented on. It;s honestly the least of my suspicions too, considering the other factors in play. A silver award is basically one step away from being formally serialized, its ridiculous
>>7771455It is a meritocracy, and the merit is sales. What sells stays. What looks like might sell, they'll give a shot. Maybe this silver award winner stood out against the usual stuff posted on MPC to the staff. I don't know, I haven't read it. They gave their reason right there in the image.>>7771459>proof that you will get pushed aside for medicore schemersThat's not how anything here works. They're looking for interesting stuff from people that show potential. What exactly, makes you think they simply didn't legitimately think this work is interesting and shows potential? You know who else they thought was interesting and showed potential? No/name. Guess what? It didn't sell, so they canned it. That's. How. It. Works. The merit is sales. Shueisha is a for-profit company.
>>7771500Most of it's stats indicated that it was NOT going to sell, and that was just in the rankings of that dingy little website subsection. It isn't particularly interesting either, with even the top comments on the main Shueisha site admitting to primarily liking the art (which they didnt even make themselves), AND on top of that the art isn't even that unique if you compare it western/european peers, it only appears different because it ignores manga paneling and conventions out of ignorance/lack of experience. It would literally get mogged by those random avant garte or experimental webtoons u see advertised all the time on twitter or reddit. Yet it randomly got a high level award and an ass kissing. But I get it, yeah, I should shut up and draw. And I will.
>>7771440They liked it because DEI and black MC and black writer, that's the only reason. There's probably some woke millenial college educated idiot with an agenda working on shueisha's English global website team who kept pushing it in meetings and site rankings.
>>7771534Please do not bring your culture war nonsense into these threads.
>>7771440Japanese are always just extremely curious people, for better or for worse. If you use oddities to your benefit it's your best way to get anything published.
>>7771543hes right though
>>7771516>Most of it's stats indicated that it was NOT going to sell, and that was just in the rankings of that dingy little website subsectionThis audience is not shuiesha's audience. They're looking for what could be popular in japan, not just amongst the readership of MPC. They're just looking for someone who could potentially make something that can sell. The work itself is not necessarily what interests them, but the potential in the author it displays. They're probably not aware that the artist was just some WFH dude off reddit, and I don't see why they would care anyway it's not like this artist can't simply be hired to draw more. At the end of the day, almost everything on MPC has weak storytelling, nor do they realize it. >>7771534>DEI and black MC and black writer, that's the only reasonThat's not really a thing in japan.>There's probably some woke millenial college educated idiot with an agenda working on shueisha's English global website team who kept pushing it in meetings and site rankings.Lol I've been in a meeting with some of their representatives a few years ago, they were all japanese people based in japan. I suppose it's theoretically possible that they could have hired someone like what you're describing, but it wouldn't really make any sense. They're looking for talent to bring back to japan to make something that appeals to japanese people, not for something that appeals mostly to a foreign audience.
>>7771543Alright. I put up with the tripfagging, I put up with the holier than though attitude, but this dog wont hunt.I checked /hyw/ because of the drama, and it turns out you dont even draw. You're going to come here tripfag and newfag it up, and then tell people what NOT to bring into our general?
>>7771551>That's not really a thing in japan.Yes it is, their previous PM was pushing it hard and the US ambassador to Japan was also obsessed with promoting DEI and fag marriage in Japan. Naomi Osaka was the athlete the japs chose to light the torch at the 2020 Olympics even though she sucks at tennis.
>>7771556>mouthing off to God's chosen, the creator and owner of /mmg/ and /hyw/Remind me not to stand next to you during the next lightning storm.
>>7771560Okay, then let me rephrase.That's not really a thing in manga. No matter how much backing they give to an author, if what they make doesn't sell then they're out. Full stop.
>>7771565It's impossible to understand the Japanese mindset without meeting them and experiencing them firsthand. People have the image in their head that Japanese are these ultra-conservative die-hard resistant to any cultural changes which isn't really true. I don't know how people intend to make manga without ever actually encountering them.
>>7771575They were happy to go along with DEI because they were told to by their American business partners.
what manga or artist are you studying right now? I am currently obsessed with araki's style during DIU and I'm looking at how he draws human figures in the distance.
>>7771575>It's impossible to understand the Japanese mindset without meeting them and experiencing them firsthand.I have...
>>7771551But that doesn't make any sense, how could a low quality indie 'manga' that was already struggling in a highly favourable homefield audience environment (opportunistic shillers,bot legions,indian bot legions,young retarded overly supportive kids) possibly do any better in nipponland, there was literally nothing that made it stand out either, do the editors seriously have so little experience reading foreign comics that they see slop like this and think 'wow i've never seen anything like this before, it must be good enough to give him a massive reward and money prize!!!!'
good night
>>7771594If you're the person I was responding to I agree with you. I learned that the reason why a lot of these people never go beyond is because they think Japanese who go out of their way looking for interesting things are looking for people that attempt to mirror them. If they did they would almost never hire someone outside of East Asia because their mannerisms are so particular that you can never even fathom trying to imitate them without them noticing.
>>7771604it's affirmative action DEI bullshit, don't think about it too much.
>>7771604It's a true underdog story
>>7771604>do the editors seriously have so little experience reading foreign comicsthat's probably it. It is a high effort comic in a western style which is extremely rare on mangaplus.
>>7771646i hope the nips find out exactly why western comics collapsed
>>7771579Not directly studying per se, but Shirahama Kamome's panelling is just great. I often look to her for inspiration.
>>7771605I'm not sure if that's a triangular collar she's wearing, but I suggest adjusting the drawing in some manner, cause a problem I see in the chin area specifically with the shading and how it connects to that triangle area is that she looks like she has a Dorito chin. I'd suggest rounding off the chin a bit personally but I hope you see what I mean at least.
>>7771579Yeah Arakis great, Ive been redrawing some of his SBR and JOJOLION pages
>>7771726jojolion for me has been incredibly boring so far. I'm trying to like it but Ithe boring art/expressions/everyone having the same thousand yard stare combined with the lack of plot makes me want to drop it.He's making an interesting world with new concepts and lore and then entire chapters will just be "who am I??? ahhh the stand is chasing me, how does it work???" I'm getting too old to enjoy slow burn stories but I hope it picks up. Right now some ugly guy used his stand to deflate/melt everybody.
>>7771579Not manga nor artist but I really like the visual of the contempible 2000 TV anime adaptation of Sakura Taisen and I've been learning to paint/color my art with inspiration of this anime.
>>7771770Whats wrong with Sakura Taisen TV anime? The 90s one pretty good
Just wanted to share some old sketches story was about a lone maintenance android in the postapocalipsis that is stuck fixing infrastructure or some retarded shit like that, got some more pages
>>7771579I love Kosuke Fujishima's art at around 1997-2000. Also at 2005-2008.Him being a terrible person aside, this guy is genuinely a good character designer.
>>7771783>Whats wrong with Sakura Taisen TV anime?In terms of adaptation, it went completely out of rail from the characters to the tone of the story.Episode 9 was so critically dissed that they had to make a complete new episode to replace it for the home-video release.
>>7771767thats probably the peak of it funnily, not a huge fan of Jojolion, although Im really enjoying Jojolands
>>7771784Post more?
>>7771938here the whole shit thing, Had to investigate how to compress under 4mb. Its left to right in pages, right to left in panels, not that it will make anymore sense
>>7771545>>7771556>>7771561>>7771773>>7771886You people do know that drama/community vendetta is against the rules here, right?
>>7771560You do know that "yaoi" and "yuri" has been a hting in Japan for decades now right? IN fact i say that most if not all of what people call "DEI" and "woke" nowadays originated in Japan and didn't become big in the west until people who grew up watching anime got into the industry and when the industry became more anime inspired.
>>7771996They pick and choose things to be miserable about. The truth is comics and books allow for Japanese to profess a lot of their oddities, both good and bad, where their cultural sense of unity doesn't allow. The less healthier ones like the aforementioned yaoi and yuri are mostly prominent with niche otaku spheres, while the more "mundane" ones like angsty teenager stuff can typically make some mainstream appeal.
>>7771605You're a faggot too. You act like you're a regular. >I might never be backThat. Do that >>7771993You dont draw. You admitted that. I literally had no idea who you were until this thread. This is manga MAKING general. You dont make anything. Please leave, or for the sake of everything just, just lose the trip. Its clearly an ego thing. All this could be stopped if you lost the trip, but you wont.
>>7772018I won't ditch the trip because it's a God thing, God wants me to be open about as much as possible and He doesn't want me to be anonymous anywhere.Also i used to draw, just not anymore, because i have to bey God.>>7772021Actually it was here before i got here, in fact that's the only reason why i even found out about this in the first pace, Laundrymom (AKA Devil's Moon Anon.) brought /hyw/ drama here to complain about me (A biased retelling of what happened leaving out information to make victimize himself, no offense Laundrynon but that's what you did.) and another Anon posted a link to his complaining in /hyw/, so i checked out what he was saying. I could have engaged him but i decided not to, i planned on leaving forever but then i noticed that there are creatives in /mmg/ who needed support as well so i decided to stick around to help provide emotional and motivational support.You wanna talk about the archive? Well here's the post that the Anon linked to on /hyw/ and notice that i didn't post in the thread until after the drama was brought up.https://warosu.org/ic/thread/7759985#p7761999This is why i thank the guy, because i really do appreciate what he did for me, he pushed me to start making reviews as well as help introduce me to /mmg/. Don't fault the guy for anything, even if he's faulting himself, as this is a good thing.
>>7772045>God told me to not draw and become a tripfag.Ok. I'll admit when I've been had.You got me. I had my suspicions, but thanks for confirming it. I respect you for sticking to the bit, now goodbye forever.>>7771605I apologize for judging you too harshly. I still think you're a fag, but it turns out some of your complaining was justified.
>>7772062You shouldn't write off anyone just because God's will for them does not align with your bigotry, and that really is how people treat those with trips, with bigotry.
>>7772099"Remember, they hated me first." - Jesus !Nz3r.tHx
>>7772116Amen.
>>7771980I like how you drawed his suit and the bird. They look good.
>>7771694Ill try that but I might just redraw the head entirely. the angle doesnt really fit the rest of her body, and it's not like she's looking at anything.>>7772062everyone said I was whining to much about him and then proceeded to bitch about him for another 12 hours without me.>>7772018 I mean, I used to post a lot back in 2023 but left cause I whined a lot about the crit I was receiving. I already admitted I was being embarrassing then. I came back cause I wanted to improve again. I don't care about being seen as a regular, I just want to get good feedback and show I can respond to it with a better image instead of whining. >You're a faggot tooYou associating me with him is why I was so frustrated with his presence to begin with. I apologized for bringing him here and I stopped arguing. It wasn't my intention to bring drama over. I only ever brought up /hyw/ in the first place to illustrate my frustrations with the crit i was receiving there. (jake is only here because I said "/mmg/ helped me with this page" over on /hyw/. Not because of any drama posting over there.) If he wants to keep pretending I'm a part of his life story he can be my guest but don't fall for that nonsense and then make it my problem. Consider replying to the image content I'm posting and not using your reply to bait me back in.
>>7771996Did you know that fucking teenage boys used to be considered normal in Japan and teen boys were considered a third gender? Mixed baths used to be everywhere and women in the countryside would walk around with their tits out while working That doesn't mean it's still that way.
>>7772193>bare tits out in the countrysideWe must go back
>>7770947Streaming more today, please share your thoughts on hefferchu! I plan to do a print run once I have enough chapters for a volume of about 200 pages, so hopefully I can iron out as much as possible before then.
>>7772242I have no clue what this is about but looks funny, or at least cute.
>>7772193Honestly that's cherry picking unrelated topics especially when yuri, yaoi, women that look like men, men that look like women, females beating up males, etc, all stuff that are labeled as "woke" are still common tropes in Japanese media, and even if it isn't they're the ones who pretty much popularized it.
Can bad writing be acceptable if the story is still fun enough?
>>7772306Yeah, valvy a best
