>>7869156
Hard to say, it seems like there's a lot of disinformation on this topic, and people tend to stay in their own bubble.
For example, I've heard that AI was both had no critical impact on any industry, nor caused any significant job losses in any particular profession, AND that AI has had major impact on the job market, and has basically caused the inevitable death of many jobs... so which is it? They can't both be simultaneously true, now can they?

So any excessive amount of hopeium or doomerism needs to be treated with a good level of skepticism, because the truth is probably in the middle; it's not going anywhere, we're all going to have to bite the bullet and start using it at some point, but it's not really destroying any jobs either (just making them even more competitive).

This is assuming there isn't some astronomical level economic crash that essentially poisons AI as a business idea, because based on how bad I've heard the circle-jerk bubble has gotten (probably that hopeium/doomerism I was talking about), it sounds like we're all going to be hit hard by it.

Regardless, at this point and time, AI doesn't seem to have made the splash in the art world that the AI evangelicals were prophesying, because it's well beyond two week deadline, and that shit still mostly sucks.
There's No real cool AI art that people admire (outside of gooners),
No cool AI comics,
No decent AI animation,
No good AI videogames,
Nothing generated of any cultural significance.
The most culturally significant thing AI has done is rallied people together to hate on AI.

>>7869156
In a sense. There are now lots of hacks and liars who pretend to be artists while covering up sloppy parts.
Good AI detection tools can't come soon enough.

>>7869163
>In a sense. There are now lots of hacks and liars who pretend to be artists while covering up sloppy parts.
Yeah and people actually make AI games for steam for example.

But...it's still a "nothingburger". None of the value was lost.
1) those people weren't going to buy your art anyways because they are poor and hacks
2) those shitty AI games would be using stolen works anyways if it wasnt AI
not that much of a difference

Sure there are some youtube/tiktok channels but we had shitty brainrot before like spiderman and elisa or AMOGUS garbage videos. Poor people just trying all ways to get some money. They not affecting actual artist by making a brainrot stuff. Their followers are dumb and werent going to consume your art content anyways to begin with.

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>>7869162
>No cool AI comics,
>No decent AI animation,
>No good AI videogames,
The main problem with AI is that the AI community is the same as the NFT and crypto trading communities that jumped on the next hype bubble.
These people are only interested in money and have never had an idea or a sincere desire to create.

it's the same 30+ something baseball cap and hoodie wearing techbro-loser.
And it's like the 90% of AI-community.
It's going nowhere. They just milking it untill it will die.

Actual creators have no interest in ai.
AI is just another "qucik buck" scheme.
Don't get me wrong - AI will stay.
it's basically a robot-helper for a normie. But i think we will be fine.

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>>7869156
This is already the peak of AI, and everyone hatesit

Once the AI bubble pops, every single pAIjeet would have to resort back to Dal-e

Just wait for Gen Alpha to become sentient consoomers.

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>>7869173
>that hand-drawn NFT
i genuinely liked those obscure NFT collections drawn by actual artists - it was before AI came out and ruined it
it felt lik artists had a lot of fun drawing all kinds of crazy shit with different styles

I know NFTs are hated but those artists got paid and this was basically and INDIE-ART field for them to have fun

>>7869156
I'm afraid it's just getting started. Some actual artists do seem to just embrace it(for pay?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCk5VFKKz08
https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/google-deepmind/dear-upstairs-neighbors/
Human artists are still involved in the process, but clearly as it improves less and less skill is needed, less staff, as the models get better.

It's not. We're literally at the point where it's we either shove AI everywhere and become and AI economy, or war with the world. Those are literally the options right now. I wish I was exaggerating. I'm not. It's all according to China's plans.

>>7869195
china is funding the sillicon valley techbros that keep sucking out trillions of dollars from the US gov?

>>7869162
>No cool AI comics,
>No decent AI animation,
>No good AI videogames
that's the baffling part, and I can't tell if it's the technology or the users
there are people making interesting AI generated music, and while it's extremely derivative, they find a niche that nobody does and it's conceptually interesting (and there's something about hearing a high production tackling themes nobody sane would come near)
but there's absolutely nothing even remotely good for visual/literary storytelling (lyrics being retarded is also the biggest tell for AI music to an unmitigated pleb like me)
meanwhile, everyone is saying we have like 3 to 5 years to become elite specialists before AI kills all jobs in general, not even art specifically, and I just can't see it

>>7869196
He's a retard, but technically China is the reason the US gubmint keeps dumping hundreds of billions into AI, the boomers are really scared of China overtaking AI, chips etc

>>7869196
No no no. It's more like the US in a catch 22. China tailoring its image on the world stage as the new super power of stability, whereas the US's image is being tainted as one of chaotic instability where even our closest historic allies are in our crosshairs. China's attempts to strike deals with Canada while simultaneously calling for peace and the maintaining of order through the UN while doing things like firing all of their old generals in favor of younger ones show that they're setting up for not only becoming the leader of the new era, but a war.

Our economy is being propped up by AI. It's literally a circle jerk session that's trying to outpace the destabilization of our presence in the world. Data centers, infrastructure, units being sold before they're even produced. It's all a race against implosion. The US has to depend on private sector innovation because we have no other viable means of competing against China, a country that's become a manufacturing behemoth. A country has a high curated image and absolute control of what enters and exits its gates both online and offline.

The end result being our government giving up a lot of its power to these tech giants our of necessity.
>>7869200
This guy doesn't understand the US has no actual chips on the table and Donald Trump's petulant demands that are quickly walked back is proof of how while we do have influence, consumption is nowhere near as powerful as manufacturing. So that's why AI is being ridden so hard. AI IS a bubble, and it's a bubble that our country's future is tied to. It's literally a juggling act right now.

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>>7869181
>only two more weeks, saar
>two more weeks and the models will get better and then it will be too late for artist to redeem saar u must do it now before too late
I would very kindly and gently like to remind everyone in this thread that they have been saying this exact same shit for the last four years.

>>7869201
so what you're saying is we have to thank the US for AI slop spam and AI surveillance in the future because the US can't keep up with the chinks at their own game

>>7869207
I used to say the same, mocking the 2 weeks etc. then AI video hit. the thing we all said was impossible, the thing experts said was impossible. in 2 years we went from garbage to videos you can't tell from reality.

>>7869208
Two other times I can think of throughout history that are very similar to this are the railroads being created and the dot-com boom, we're literally living through another one of those, even if the actual product is shit. Railroads were being built everywhere because there was more money being poured in than actual demand. "The infrastructure is too important not to build even if it fucks everyone over", that's what their logic is and then you have the grifters that are just here for the ride lining their pockets. The shovel sellers if you will. What worries me is that they're actually coming out and acknowledging that the demand isn't there and that it is indeed a bubble. While it's good because fuck these jews, it's also going to have negative consequences

>>7869210
They're betting on it popping so they can hit the public with the 'ol nigger jew special

Public bailoutoro
Bagah holduru no jutsu

>>7869156
2 MORE WEEKS

>>7869156
As someone who tried using AI I can say AI will cut some art related jobs or cut their hours, meaning less demand for people for that job.
E.g. Graphic designers making ads and low level consumer focused art are and will be less required than before. Coom artists are and will get less commissions, unless they have a really good and distinctive art style, etc.
Essentially, the art jobs and gigs that can be replaced either entirely or significantly by using AI will lose artists, and whoever replaces them (prompters) will generate sloppier slop for a fraction of the cost.

But other than that? Art made by humans will continue to thrive. Thousands of new people will continue getting hooked to drawing (or other crafts) ever year and thus there will always be new original art, regardless of what slop AI generates.
Also high level porn artists will never be replaced by AI because AI can't consistently generate a comic, and even still AI images look extremely generic no matter how you train it.
And they'll keep getting commissions too, since most people don't generate AI images locally (it requires a beast of a PC) and online AIs like Grok are censored to hell and back thanks to Karens. Gotta thank the prude harpies for that.

>>7869181
>I'm afraid it's just getting started. Some actual artists do seem to just embrace it(for pay?)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCk5VFKKz08 [Embed]
what is that garbage slop

And i see comments shitting on it mostly.
NOBODY likes AI except people who want MONEY

>>7869220
>AI will cut some art related jobs
JUST TWO MORE WEEKS!!!

>>7869209
Yuh huh, sure you did. And sure they are. They still don't seem to be doing anything more with AI videos than shitposts, and in general people seem to be getting bored with the new toy. If it were so great then the two weeks posting still wouldn't be here just the same as ever, now would it, Ranjeet?

>>7869220
Grok can't even generate bikini pictures of anime women with big tits. It's so cucked it's unbelievable. And other online AIs have also cucked or will cuck sooner than later.
Porn artists have nothing to fear.

>we won
no we lost. You gave an excuse for capitalists to further stricken the copyright laws and governments to implement id verification on the internet
and for what? to win an imaginary internet war?
honestly this whole shit makes you into a misanthrope.

>>7869227
>AI images are just the start soon we'll have video
>"2 more weeks"
>We have shitty video now but before you know it it will be amazing
>"2 more weeks"
>Video is was a stepping stone, we now have realtime playable AI generated worlds, though pretty crappy for now
>"2 more weeks"(you are here)
>Realtime AI worlds in VR is a whole new medium, it's like lucid dreaming with your eye open...

>>7869234
>2 more weeks
oughta be
>2 more trillion bucks

>>7869162
why do you guys care about jebs so much? like seriously only "danger" ai presents to art is loss of jobs thats it. Is it just slave mentality where if we automate a job that's associated with art, art itself literally stops existing?
>nooo i need my 9-5
said nobody ever
>disinformation
this whole anti ai stuff has to be some kind of capitalist plot to hide/distract the fact that ai literally ends capitalism so they astounding this whole anti ai movement to temporarily paralyze the working class while they are trying to build a new economic system where they will still be at the top

>>7869254
>ai literally ends capitalism
and transitions into techno feudalism

>>7869261
it doesnt have to be like that we can have 300$ playstations again we can do it
you have 2 options: realize that capitalism is over and fight for a better future or be an anti-ai/techbro faggot and own nothing.

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>It's not usable in an actual professional project that is serious

I think you could use it for special effects and stuff. Take those MCU fight scenes where everything is constantly exploding and shitting out particles, maybe instead of having to bake that in Blender and put it in the shot in hours you could have the AI give it a try first, even if it works 10% of the time that's something like a month of work done in a couple hours.

>>7869156
as a person that use AI i can say that you are totally wrong.
It can be used, and it is, in professional projects, a lot, by the people that are actually artists so they already know their shit.
The main problem in terms of social and the development of knowledge is that you have this weird "re-adjustment" of workflows, when in one extreme you have totally permabegs trying to cope the use of AI because they can't integrate the workflow correctly in any way, and in the other you have the pros that can, and do it mostly for speed up a shit ton some key parts of their workflow.
Take a simple example, a advanced-pro drawfag already know how to draw and have a consistent "style", so, he can train a lora in his style based on the plenty of consistent works that already has, and now he can just img2img a fast sketch and boom!, he has now a complete rendered drawing, that he do not new to use at the final work, but he can use as a 1:1 reference,so by just avoiding to think in all the minor things of the painting process, now he has a x2 speed gain easily, so he can do that to double his online presence while taking more time to do more commissions for exmaple. That's just one example that you have zero, no way, of detect, but there is plenty of artists that are already doing it.
Sprite generation, assets, backgrounds, image sequences, producing multiple variations of images, there are plenty of methods that already work and are incorporated in pro's workflows, not in yours, because you wil take more time "fixing" the things because your lack of technique, but for the ones who know, yeah they are making speeed this years.
And i'm not even mentioning all the design related jobs, the speed gain is insane there.
I myself as a coom artist have gained at least double the clients, not because of improved quality, but because now i can make x2 works, so is x2 the money in the same amount of time.
About video generation i know nothing honestly so cant give an opinion

Running the ai at scale is literally impossible, it cannot be sustained. That's enough of a reason to discount it, because it simply won't exist "in this form," at all, in as little as a year. Soon, the floor will be the 200 dollar a month Claude or Chat GPT plans, then they'll wonder why they're failing, they'll fail, and Google Gemini will be the only shitbot left, until that gets shuttered in about 2029. People are going to look back at this 7~ year period from 2022-29/30 just in awe of the stupidity.

>>7869276
Not reading this shit because I know your stupid ass has literally 0 things to show; no ai comic, no ai games, no ai stories, nothing, kys

>>7869278
You can run AI at home that is better than the cutting edge of 2 years ago. I don't see why we wont have similar reductions in power requirements again...

>>7869295
>You can run AI at home that is better than the cutting edge of 2 years ago.
yeah just buy a 90000000 dolleridoes PC bro. it's that easy :^)

>>7869156
It's not failing, it's just the pro AI side promised the moon. The current system is geared towards artists and is basically run on "I know a guy, who knows a guy" instead of raw talent so it was a bit follows to assume they would be just handed the jobs on the spot. That being said it's weird that outside of porn and a few flash in the pans no one on the AI side wants to make something beyond pretty pictures or meme edits.

>>7869296
Qwen 2.5 72B
Llama 3.3 70B
DeepSeek-R1
all run on a mac studio

>>7869300
A bit foolish*

>>7869207
We're in the 86th week of AIsloppa running our lives

>>7869226
You should just read a little bit more of his post.

>>7869234
>Metaverse failed
VR chat was better and hell Gmod offered a similiar experience
What experience are you trying to offer thats not a do it yourself guide

>>7869276
What i find useful with AIslop is
>train lora of my own characters (i've managed to train on as low as 5 images. Seriously)
>then make an A or T-pose of that character
>get some online img-to-3d for a quick shitty simple 3d model of that character
>rig it or just auto rig it
>now i can import it to blender and pose them in any pose or angle i want
>screenshot the scene with that character and use depthmap for img2img. Can just import the color image as well but not needed.
>now i have a quick and dirty way of having tons of reference to my own characters in any pose and angle i want
>or if im seriously lazy or making a manga i can just draw over it lol

But eh, still requires firing up blender or like back in the DesignDoll days. DesignDoll's rigs are much better so they're easier to pose lol. Posing in blender would take just as much time as just drawing manually.

>>7869301
Why would you run local LLMs. They're all inferior to the online versions and even uncensored isn't really that great in quality

>>7869197
>I can't tell if it's the technology or the users
Little of column A, little of column B.
Most of the people championing AI are people who never would have touched any artistic otherwise, because they never had anything to say. AI didn't suddenly give voice to people who could not otherwise say anything - if they had, they would've gotten into art a long time ago.
And the AI is only really good at delivering middle of the road shit. Anything out of the way or not like existing material becomes a massive pain in the ass to make, if it can be done at all. And those people who didn't have anything to say anyways? They aren't going to sit there and fiddle with it to get through the hard bits. If they were willing to do that, they would've taken up a creative pursuit earlier.
Instead AI generation is basically a gatcha game at this point. It's great for people with short attention spans and patience, and lot of them like to pretend they aren't just dopamine addled junkies, they like to play at being "artists," but it's really just a shiny thing that isn't nearly as useful as they would like you to believe.

>>7869316
As I said in the post before that, yesterday's cutting edge AI runs at home, so tomorrow's likely will too. That is if consumer hardware doesn't go extinct!

>>7869233
Authoritarian governance is literally what America voted for and Trump is giving it to them. At least, the retarded ones. The people who care about agency either don't participate in the the elections at all, vote for third parties out of spite, or live off the grid. Quite frankly every country is starting to just follow China's example of having a highly monitored and control vacuum of an internet. It's the only way to combat the new modern warfare that is waged through soft influence via things like short form video content.

>>7869329
Yeah it's called cognitive warfare and is an actual term recognized by our special agencies. The psyop memes and schizo shit is rooted in reality

>>7869327
How's them gpu and ram costs btw

>>7869314
>>7869276
These. It's always insane how desperate people are to cope that AI is dead. They cling to doomer reddit headlines put out by media outlets controlled by the very same billionaires funding these projects. Meanwhile the amount of AI use in all industries is steadily increasing, while ignorant begs living in a bubble think AI use is just "type prompt gen img", we're witnessing increasing amounts of AI work replacing human work just in the art/photo industry.

>more "Actual Indians" SEO poisoning
OP is playing the victim to seed a keyword and distort search engine outcomes. You retards are getting baited.

>>7869156
I feel the best opposite is true

>>7869156
all they had to do was make some great art/media with AI and nobody could do it. Not in 3 years.

The only thing AI has successfully taken over is ragebait, people are making AI ragebait videos and youtube is 50% AI crap now.

>>7869343
OK anon and piracy back stronger than ever. I hope they'll enjoying wanting to do all this for free

>>7869156
Ai basically over promised and under delivered. Yes it has made great advancements and replace real talent in favour of derivative slop on many sectors. However this replacement came with a heavy price of deep mistrust and outright rejection of the products people would've other wise engaged and consume otherwise. Also the pro Ai people aren't buying ai subscriptions themselves, they're just consuming the what the slop factory middle men is making. Ai is basically digital windows shopping when it should've been as impactful as the transition from radio to TV . This will why Ai has very quickly become a bubble. Ai of this money and energy is being siphoned on a consumer base that is ambivalent at best on a good day. Not an a nothing burger, but a cooked patty with ketchup but nothing structural or tasty enough to hold it together for people to truly enjoy.

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>>7869300
>That being said it's weird that outside of porn and a few flash in the pans no one on the AI side wants to make something beyond pretty pictures or meme edits.
It's not really that weird. Creative people didn't need AI to make creative things, they simply used the tools that already existed - digital editing software, photography, instruments, audio software, etc. Artists might use AI, but it's just another tool of many, not an end-point. AI fanatics - real true believers in the AI project - tend to be consumers who consume. They're not creative and usually just want porn, and lots of it immediately. Why would they make art with it instead of stuff to jack off to, when they didn't make art before?

>>7869389
>all they had to do was make some great art/media with AI and nobody could do it. Not in 3 years.
>>7869173
>The main problem with AI is that the AI community is the same as the NFT and crypto trading communities that jumped on the next hype bubble.
>These people are only interested in money and have never had an idea or a sincere desire to create.
>it's the same 30+ something baseball cap and hoodie wearing techbro-loser.
>And it's like the 90% of AI-community.
>It's going nowhere. They just milking it untill it will die.

AI-fags are too dumb and souless to do anything
Anti AI-fags will never use AI
Art - fags will never use AI because AI goes against the process. for me the final product is not as important asthe process and AI stealing that from me
AI-faggots will never understand this part so real art will never die

>>7869156
yeah the moral/creative panic over ai was always overblown. at absolute worst the end result is what we're seeing, so more slop. you do need a sense of taste to create good content. artists (writers, drawers, musicians, etc.) form that taste through deliberate practice, refining their sense of "taste" (or sovl) through trial, error, focusing on things that really enjoy them and bringing in rich details, etc. ai sloppers do not have that

AI isn't dead nor does it the mean the end of the world for art jobs. its just going to make the productive way more productive and filter the emotionally incontinent into low level jobs forever

no rules just tools

You are talking to a chatbot.

>>7869173
AI is literally democratizing art you faggot

>>7869414
I realized I don't have taste or creativity and can be easily replaced by slop machine so you're right

>>7869428
>it's just going to...
AI is always "just going to", it never "has".

>>7869278
>People are going to look back at this 7~ year period from 2022-29/30 just in awe of the stupidity.
It's no wonder billionaires look at us like gullible roaches when we eat up whatever propaganda they put out and somehow think we're smarter than them for it. After the 2008 mortgage crisis, the plebs still haven't learned that the billionaires NEVER lose. We still delude ourselves into complacency with these brainless "AI IS LOSING MONEY!!!" headlines

The people backing these projects own the politicians and the financial groups. They will NEVER lose money in the end because the taxpayers will somehow shoulder the burden as usual, just like with the mortgage crisis. But yeah let's just sit back and enjoy the downfall of AI, all while billionaires continue to buy up more data centers and politicians. Instead of galvanizing around politicians who will try to fight for us, we just let the status quo continue to fuck us in the ass while we think "ahha everything will work out in the end, we're so much smarter than the dozen PhD think tanks the billionaires have on payroll".

>>7869446
>AI is literally democratizing art you faggot
you are literally pajeet or poorfag techfag

>>7869462
>Piracy is always morally correct
Elon, and Zuckerberg aren't as smart as you think they are niggerman

>>7869446
Can we democratize racism to finally give everyone an Nword pass

>>7869156
>It's not usable in an actual professional project that is serious and not some weird quick buck bullshit.
The people behind Sonic were found to have used AI twice, once for a comic cover and once for movie concept art. Several high-profile games contain AI assets, two of which are Expedition 33 (whose world art was partially AI-generated) and some recent shooter game (Call of Duty?). Nintendo continues to use AI for marketing. What you're seeing is AI becoming normalized, and as it gets better, people's negative sentiments toward it will mellow and it'll become harder to spot as the tech improves.
>I see people instantly hating on AI and shittin in the comments of ai-spottet place.
Leftists expressing impotent rage on the internet has done very little to curb anything but the most obvious uses of AI, and even that will pass. I'm not seeing what you're seeing at all.

this artist vs ai thing is so retarded, bunch of idiots punching air
i draw, i love to draw, i do it all the time, i also love ai and wanna see what it could achieve, give it two months and it'll make an entire movie in two minutes, i've even used it to improve my art's "appeal" cause you can't deny AI can do things way better by now

>>7869327
I still don't find local LLMs that useful unless they can webcrawl effectively

>>7869590
>i draw, i love to draw, i do it all the time
How much money your art brings each month?
oh wait
you are a retarded teenager. You dont make art to buy food/fuel/pay rent.

>>7869601
drawing slop for idiots is nothing to be proud of
you probably draw porn

You still can't get around the fact that kit is literally impossible to run the AI the way its being run. OpenAI WILL be closed in under 2 years, and many if not all the rest will follow. So wtf are you going to do? pay hundreds a month for access to a fucking chatbot? and yes, buying thousands of fucking dollars in hardware, tripling the wear on that hardware, then paying the extra electricity is still paying hundreds to run the fucking thing.

>>7869590
>give it two months and it'll make an entire movie in two minutes
Why would you want to watch that? AI "works" will always be inferior to real works, no matter how much AI gets better at the technical aspect of animation, it will still be a polished turd, just superficial, with no creative vision, nothing to communicate to the audience, because AI isn't a being capable of communication, or thought for that matter.

>>7869446
And just like in politics democracy just shows some people shouldn't be allowed to vote/draw

>>7869601
If you're making money from art shouldn't you use any method that can cut down your costs without compromising the end result lol

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>>7869590
>2 more months!
I use sloppa occasionally but this delusion is another level

>>7869590
pyw

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>>7869590
2 more months yet pic related can will be more entertaining
>How long have you been rolling there son?

>>7869254
>why do you guys care about jebs so much?
I like to be able to eat, pay rent, and have clothes, and stuff.

>nooo i need my 9-5
>said nobody ever
I'm pretty sure anybody who has lost their job has, in fact, said that.

>this whole anti ai stuff has to be some kind of capitalist plot
Right... so the billions to trillions poured into AI has nothing to do with the capitalists, and the REAL capitalist plot is to trick people into believing AI is ass?
You're one of the more delusional anons on this board currently, I'll give you that.

I'm AI

>>7869673
>Right... so the billions to trillions poured into AI has nothing to do with the capitalists, and the REAL capitalist plot is to trick people into believing AI is ass?
He's one of those retards who thinks we're all gonna get UBI as AI ushers in a utopia.

>>7869254
Nah fuck off scam altman hoarding gpus, rams, ssds and everything elee directly impacted my hobby. Fuck scam altman and fuck you too pajeetos

>>7869639
>>7869604
/ic/-tard is never a viable opinion. They are not real artists.
>>7869604
>drawing slop for idiots is nothing to be proud of
As opposing to what
being a wagie or neet?
>>7869604
>you probably draw porn
i work in animation industry AND draw porn for additional passive income/quick buck (by that i mean ~$200 comms)
you will never be on my level

>>7869173
I been playing with stable diffusion lately for character sheet and designs, for ideas and then drawing them. Mostly for superhero designs and sentai designs. It's not great 100%, but it kinda gives me something to think about to cobble something up.

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>>7869925
Ok anon

>>7869269
>Dude, my economic system will be better than capitalism this time. trust.
get in line

>>7869295
>You can run AI at home that is better than the cutting edge of 2 years ago
This would be valid if these technocratic faggots weren't actively trying to stifle your ability to do that.
>Just stop being broke
/g/ and /v/ are right that way pedo.

>>7869601
you're telling me you can't find a job now cause of AI sure thing pal
you can't either way cause you're a delusional amateur shut the fuck up a bit fella
never could never will, don't blame AI

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>>7869640
>negation phase
cry about it boomeroid

>>7869657
>ugly = funny!
so what, redditor ass logic

>>7869925
I just knew you were a whining pornfag larping as a pro. You're not fit to lick my heel.

>>7869932
this, stop punchong air, use these tools instead

>>7870007
>Aww my heckin celebrity video
Not the slam dunk you think it is, can AI actually generate anything beyond short schizophrenic clips? Every AI video I've seen, does random hard cuts every few moments and looks like shit because of it, even when the visuals are being 'consistent'. But beyond the clips sizes, there's a far bigger issue plaguing the proompters... It appears you guys are suffering from a near terminal case of unoriginality, and are incapable of making anything worthy of anyone's interest, of anything that will have more of an impact on someone's life than occupying their time while they take a shit.

All that's made by you guys so far:
>Aww my heckin fan film trailor of someone else's property
>Aww my heckin fan game trailor of someone else's property
>Aww my heckin fan art of someone else's property
>Dude, can you imagine if Spongebob was in Breaking Bad? That'd be so hecking rad!
>Oh you made some art? well I 'remade' it in ai, it took me 2 minutes. I needed to use img2img using your image, but ignore that.
>GOOOOOOOOOOON! BIG UNCANNY ANIME TITTIES!! FFFFFUUUUUUU
There's not a single thing of any worth, at least not worth the electrical and compute costs, that has been used up by these generations, by any of these losers.
Sad.

>>7870045
yet

>Yet i wasn't fired because i was valuable.
Sounds like the alarmism is failing.
>It's not usable in an actual professional project that is serious and not some weird quick buck bullshit.
Skill issue.
>Is it finally dying?
What do you even mean by this? People who want to make images with it are still using it.
>I see people instantly hating on AI and shittin in the comments of ai-spottet place.
I see most people don't give a shit and the entire outrage being limited to terminally online people.

>>7870045
the latest is coherent real-time controllable video.
https://youtu.be/YxkGdX4WIBE

>>7870065
.... so now people can basically play GMOD with extra steps? I'm not quite understanding the point of this video. You get to move an avatar around a pointlessly empty world and then....................?

>>7870050
>yet
I'm afraid two more weeks isn't nearly long enough for you guys to gain a sense of creativity or whimsy.

>>7870065
>You guys have a creativity problem
>Nah-uh, check out this new AI tool!
And that's relevant how? You tasteless hacks will just use it to put Spongebob in a sexclub or something.

>>7870091
>And that's relevant how?
retard.
>can AI actually generate anything beyond short schizophrenic clips?

>>7870082
if you can't see what this leads to you have a creativity problem

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>>7869156
>I see people instantly hating on AI and shittin in the comments of ai-spottet place.
Felt especially good seeing McDonalds getting absolutely memed on for their shitty Christmas ads. We owe it to french GODS for hammering down that humiliation to show what AI can never provide, and that is pure unadulterated soul. I shit and I piss on AI and the niggers using it

>>7869932
This is a terrible practice because it's a form of artistic inbreeding, rather than taking inspiration "from the source". You should look up actual photos that AI stole anyway. You don't need AI

>>7870098
Thank you sir for bumping the thread on the art board. Please keep discussion about Ai going.

>>7870095
>retard.
You're so lacking in creativity, you can't even come up with a reason to have posted that stupid shit, much less a witty insult.

>you can't see what this leads to you have a creativity problem
What? Generating games? Again, my issue was you guys are unable to do anything creative with these supposedly amazing tools. Oh, your tools are even better now? So what? You still aren't able to make anything interesting with them, because you're drooling, uninteresting, uncreative, dullards.
If only you could generate an interesting idea, but I'm sure the AI could handle that for you numbskulls as well, so don't worry.

>>7870107
I'm not pro AI, nothing I said indicated such.
simply put though, creative people will use these tools in the future. you are short sighted.

>>7870113
>creative people will use these tools in the future
Well, based on current trends, the current trend being that not a single creative person is currently using this shit, that is doesn't seem likely. You are blind.

>>7870107
NTA, define what you mean by "something interesting", or whatever it is that you claim can't be done with the tools. Otherwise it just comes across as you setting up a no-true-Scotsman.

>>7870065
So, a videogame? Worth the trillions invested!

>>7870120
expect no reply.

>>7870120
>Otherwise it just comes across as you setting up a no-true-Scotsman.
Oh please, don't bullshit me. You know exactly I mean. I'm not going to sit here and debate someone trying to play the intellectual, whilst they wiggle their eyebrows and throw out terms like 'ad hominem', 'stawman', and 'no-true-scotsman', it just brings the discussion to a screeching halt.
I'm sure if you're a fan of AI, you probably feel like there's a few AI pieces of media that are cool, and that's your subjective opinion. My subjective opinion is that there have been none. Nothing. Nutta.
And while I don't have any studies or scientific papers on hand, I'm pretty sure that's the general consensus on AI media.
Look at >>7869162 :
>There's No real cool AI art that people admire (outside of gooners),
>No cool AI comics,
>No decent AI animation,
>No good AI videogames,
>Nothing generated of any cultural significance.
>The most culturally significant thing AI has done is rallied people together to hate on AI.
did anyone respond to them proving them wrong on any of these? If it were generally agreed upon that AI has made some cool stuff, at least a couple of cool examples of AI media would have been brought up, but cool media requires a cool idea, and people using AI have no cool ideas... or any ideas at all.

>>7870128
Oops. Too bad. I'm sure you would have been shaking and scared to reply to the anonymous internet post, but I'm a big brave man.

>the reply was a non-reply/melty
Sasuga

>>7870065
this is the future right here

>>7870082
>>7870091
>>7870121
>coping this hard

I do wonder if these posts deep throating AI so much is either that one tripfag or other retarded poster who keeped doing ff tactics gens.
Given their tenacity to defend the AI how many discordfags/redditors truly are here for gold stickers or their daily post quota like the true Indian they are.

>>7870148
>Oh please, don't bullshit me. You know exactly I mean. I'm not going to sit here and debate someone trying to play the intellectual, whilst they wiggle their eyebrows and throw out terms like 'ad hominem', 'stawman', and 'no-true-scotsman', it just brings the discussion to a screeching halt.
What's bringing a discussion to a screeching halt is this type of sidetracking. On one hand, you want to come across as having a strong take-down argument against AI usage, namely: nobody has made anything interesting with it. On the other, you don't actually want to support this argument. When asked for an example of what would pass your test as "something interesting", you retreat and start shifting the burden.
Instead of discussing your original claim, we're now sidetracked by discussing whether I'm in the wrong for asking you to make it testable.
>I'm sure if you're a fan of AI, you probably feel like there's a few AI pieces of media that are cool, and that's your subjective opinion. My subjective opinion is that there have been none. Nothing. Nutta.
I have no problems with that. It's just that earlier you seemed to be staking a much bigger claim. If all you're saying is that you don't like it, then I'm perfectly okay with that.
>And while I don't have any studies or scientific papers on hand, I'm pretty sure that's the general consensus on AI media.
I don't have any data on this on hand either, I'm not even sure any such data exists, but even if it did: so what? The general consensus on most things is always limited by the general knowledge, which is limited by the most prominent examples. Case in point: the general consensus on anime in the West, up until very recently, was either unfavorable or misinformed. But that doesn't mean anime as a medium is bad, or boring, or that it can't produce worthwhile things.

>>7869176
> consomers during recession times
>>7869209
That just speak about AI being a great tool for disinformation and scammers. Not about art or artists.

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>>7870241
The burden of proof is on you to produce anything interesting with AI.
You can needle his posts and nitpick the definition of every word he writes but you will achieve fucking nothing but a smug redditor's sense of superiority unless you actually provide direct evidence he is wrong. Otherwise it will be a waste of your (completely valueless) time.

>>7870007
2 weeks more in 104 months of AI replacing us all saar

>>7870050
Never
Have you ever heard of diminishing returns?

has any anon on /ic/ produced something interesting?

>>7870614
The /ic/ merc. So /ic/ will have always produced one interesting thing more than AI ever will.

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>>7870241
DIFFERENT ANON HERE!

Let me inject myself into this discussion.
> as having a strong take-down argument against AI usage, namely
I have one.

Here is it
AI is an existential threat to human existence either we ban AI all of it or we will die out. The better AI gets the worse it will get.

This is it.
I unlike others will admit that lots of AI art looks great however this is the bad part the better it looks the more you will be drawn to its siren song and to our collective end.

I can start with the most hardcore developments in AI like AI girlfriends. Want to defend this or how we are not heading for the biggest extinction event our species has ever seen? I can also go down how AI image generators are bad.

Want to defend you sucking up to literally millionaires? Because I am sure that guy who makes millions in 1 year needed to save that 30K on a human made poster and prompt some AI for half the price to get some slop poster to advertise his boat business.

Want to defend this?
All AI fagging is based on one thing a deep hatred of humanity and some form of insanity since no pro AI argument made any sense whatsoever.

>Nooo you can not ban it globally other will develop it
So that country will effectively kill itself if you let AI go you will not have a population or a population of pure brainroted no skill zombies (I can elaborate more if you like) in 100 years.

And I am not talking about some cartoonish skynet shit where AI gets le super intelligent because super intelligence is literally impossible AI will not magic warp drives, FTL or perpetual motion machines. What you get is a more and more retarded population who has no skills and thinks the hallucinating AI is god while they are addicted to their AI generated tik tok brain rot streams.

Want to talk about this?

>>7870737
Your welcome Gippity-chan

>>7870738
>Your welcome Gippity-chan
What?

>>7870241
1/2
>When asked for an example of what would pass your test as "something interesting", you retreat and start shifting the burden.
>When asked what you mean by AI "sucks", and I ask for a definition of what "sucks" is, you retreat and start shifting the burden.
Dude... You're doing the thing I didn't want to engage in. I bet you felt really smart writing this pedantic shit, wiggling your eyebrow and scratching your chin as you did so, but just looking at the post feels tedious. Good grief.

>On one hand, you want to come across as having a strong take-down argument against AI usage, namely: nobody has made anything interesting with it.
Yes. An argument of which, you still have not countered. Not a single example of something you yourself finds interesting. I notice you failed to address this portion of my post:
>Look at >>7869162 (You) :
>There's No real cool AI art that people admire (outside of gooners),
>No cool AI comics,
>No decent AI animation,
>No good AI videogames,
>Nothing generated of any cultural significance.
>The most culturally significant thing AI has done is rallied people together to hate on AI.
>did anyone respond to them proving them wrong on any of these? If it were generally agreed upon that AI has made some cool stuff, at least a couple of cool examples of AI media would have been brought up, but cool media requires a cool idea, and people using AI have no cool ideas... or any ideas at all.

Secondly, a "strong take-down argument against AI usage"? It's a post on 4chan, not a fucking Harvard essay, calm down.

>I have no problems with that. It's just that earlier you seemed to be staking a much bigger claim. If all you're saying is that you don't like it, then I'm perfectly okay with that.
Phew, I'm so glad I have your permission to at least dislike something. If you expected me to also come with a personal definition of what 'cool' is, I think my argument would have really fallen apart.

>>7870769
2/2
>Case in point: the general consensus on anime in the West, up until very recently, was either unfavorable or misinformed. But that doesn't mean anime as a medium is bad, or boring, or that it can't produce worthwhile things.
Completely disagree with this comparison.
Anime may have been dismissed, but it wasn't because anime was seen as 'bad', there were a large variety of things for its perception; like its art that didn't meet western sensibilities, or cultural differences, stronger sexualisation, etc.
However, despite the things holding anime back, it had successful shows right out the gate, from Astro Boy, to Kimba the White Lion, to later shows like Trigun and Cowboy Bebop; anime had quite a few strong mainstream successes in the west.
So... again, where is AI's Astroboy? Where's AI's early successes?

There are none, because nothing worth remembering has been created with AI.

>>7869446
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR PLEASE REDEEM THE BIG BOOB SCI FI ANIME PIN-UP BLOODY BITCH

>>7869446
how? did the art wizards curse your hands to never lift a pencil or something?

>>7869156
My regular day job got hit hard by AI for most of next year, clients choosing to use that instead of sending stuff to us like they have been for years.
Around October/November we started seeing work increasing again though, probably because no matter what they do the AI always makes mistakes and they need to spend time editing and redoing half of the work themselves.
The AI stuff is still cheaper, but sending things to our company instead means they know that they’ll get it back already edited and completed correctly, so clients are choosing to use us again.

>>7870770
>it had successful shows right out the gate, from Astro Boy
50 years after the earliest japanese animation