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If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>Post Your Work and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
When receiving a critique, try to provide one in return

>best art teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi
Hide Sensei

>best art books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life

Previous thread >>7877505
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Doll lost
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>>7881584
And they always point towards the pelvis. Hope that helps the 2-3 people that are still posting trying to get good.

The site will never recover from the damage monkeyfag and zoomniggers did to it.

Build construct, don't draw with your feelings, this is the way.
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A thread made by either a complete retard with a grudge or a samefagging cunt from sharty. How lovely. Can someone make a less retarded op?
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I'm the guy who asked the abs question in the last thread, didn't expect it to cause such a shitstorm. Thanks for the replies I guess, here's some constructed midsections from what I understand.
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>>7881587
READ A FUCKING BOOK. READ THE OP. THE INFO IS ALL THERE IN THE OP.

PLEASE. TRY.
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>>7881596
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>>7881584
Yeah you love being publicly humiliated huh? Shit drawing btw
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>>7881584
How long that take, cunt? 10 minutes? Go back to grayscale and learn volume. This looks so fucked up it is unreal. The palette is all over thr place I am actually sickened. Jesus christ...
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Why are people arguing
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>>7881598
>>7881596
Appreciate the straight lines and whatnot. But it's too long senpai. Unless this guy is like 7 foot tall the proportions are all out of whack. It's much better than the other ones though LOL.
such a sad thread
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>>7881602
That's what happens when there's too many namefags. It was bound to happen from the start.
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>>7881603
I know, I’m working on proportions. Drawings are from Paul Richer, I’ll post the ref. Something about the way he draws them makes it very difficult to get them on the full page. I posted these last thread bc they’re from a different artist and are easier to understand.
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>>7881602
Tell people that the shape of the abs are similar to two balls, the lower ball that connects to the pubis is bigger and it always goes downwards to the pubic area because that's literally to the part it connects. When you draw the pelvis area like a bucket it sort of looks like a dick.

zoomniggers discord chimp out of frustration and ignorance.

It's the beg thread, they will never learn to draw and they don't want you to learn how to draw either. They are only here to shit the thread and tribilize things, they will never learn to draw not sure why they even bother. I honestly think it's malice and not stupidity, no one chimps out like that because they are stupid, or do they? I don't know i had top tier education in a first world country.
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>>7881602
We're being raided by a bunch of subhumans. Same as usual
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>>7881603
You’d be surprised at how hard it is to get this on a single page. Either the torso is too short or the legs are too stubby
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>>7881607
Why would someone raid the thread where people want to learn
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>>7881606
Tribalize* teehee.

Anyways this is you people don't deserve good references or red lines or anything at all. The place deserves to be the way it is.
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>>7881609
Because these people don't want to learn, they want to feel good about their trash so they get offended when someone offers genuine advice. Should've went harder on the spammers and discordfags.
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>>7881610
Why does it deserve it?
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>>7881606
This made me laugh because I didn’t expect this at all? So this looks like two balls? Is that what this is about? I’m trying to make sure I understand
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>>7881616
It's too late to understand. If you've been here longer than two minutes you'd understand how to shit it has went. It is supposed to resemble a dick in the bottom. Can't you read, fucker?
Do more references. Actually, you know what? Fuck you. I don't have to help you. I'm sick of this shit.
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>>7881616
It's just a way to simplify it because the two lower abs are bigger than the rest. I drew a bucket to represent the hips becuase the abs actually curve towards the bottom of the hips but that curve is barely visible in a straight on angle.

Not like it matters, these retards are doomed
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Why /dbag/ and /courses/ still exist, it's 1 step away from containing a RUS trojan, you know it will eventually happen. Poorfags don't deserve content.
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>>7881602
one dude having a meltie
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>>7881630
Calling out the permabegs and the failed mix races is not a meltie, it's a favour. They have no place here.
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get raped by the way, you lost the discussion, you will never learn how to draw, just leave the site, you are a waste of air. Go do a flip, commit suicide.
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>retards arguing at 3am on 4chan over nothing award

collective iq of 78 between the lot of you
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>>7881635
Are you going to discuss abs and anatomy or are you just going to bitch. Say it, the most basic bitch ass way to draw the hips is a bucket, the abs is a long bread with a bigger lump at the bottom.

You know i'm right. Close the thread faggot, little niglets are not welcomed, at least the retarded zoomers that are never going to make it tried to stand their ground, shame their entire generation was never taught critical thinking, the main thing that's required to learn how to draw.
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>>7881638
I'm not who you were arguing with you fucking retard. I just find you niggers cat fighting in the draw thread fucking obnoxious.
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>>7881574
LMAO what the fuck happened here, I was only gone for a few hours and now there's an all out war about abdominal cocks, holy shit you guys are cracking me the fuck up I can't
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>>7881641
>203x209
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>>7881639
>I'm not who you were arguing with you fucking retard.
I know
>I just find you niggers cat fighting in the draw thread fucking obnoxious.
I know.

You didnt gatekeep. Alt F4.
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is /beg/ finally healing
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>>7881574
>me when I see female abdominal muscles
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>>7881649
really? i unintentionally have them from daily activities, and thought they probably looked a little weird.
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>>7881589
>>7881594
>This is the beg thread, don't spam garbage
How out of touch do you have to be? THAT is beginner art, you retards. Did you forget what the term means?
Also, how can you belittle someone like that? We've only seen a few works. He can improve.
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>>7881595
The shoulders should only be about the same width as the head and the size between the arms are inconsistent, but otherwise good effort in a proportion study. Keep at it and you'll get and intuition for it.
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>>7881643
When you click on the image it enlarges a tiny bit as if it's beckoning for a laugh.
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I’ll spam my permaprebeg scribbles whether you like it or not!
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King shit
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>>7881584
I really like the shoulder / arm thingies. Banger fashion-sense
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Any anons that were struggling on the relationship of foot size to the rest of the body, this one guy seemed to have figured it out.*

*Obviously the freaks of the world are likely going to have deviations but it's something at least.
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Hello, I hate practicing.
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Anyone has something (picture, reference, whatever) that'll show me how to boxify the breasts/female body?
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>>7881702
You might want to learn about how to draw circles from squares and spheres from cubes, anon.
[source: doxy's boob tutorial]
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PostedItAgain dot com
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wanna kms
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>>7881602
resident nodraw schizo posts marc brunet art and pretends it's his, proceed to samefag for 4 hours straight while not posting his work to pretend this general is somehow dead
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>>7881602
Because fuck your that’s why fsggot
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Everything I draw has something off about it I can't figure out that always comes through when I'm done linearting. orz
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>>7881749
Your underlying sketch brush size is too large compared to your linework size, this compounds badly on the finished piece since it accentuates the searching line effect of a sketch on something that's supposed to look finished, that's based on what I can see from your previous work.
There's also something odd going in with her neck, left (viewer's side) shoulder and his back shoulder + arm touching her shoulder (his arm at the back appears larger than the one closer to the viewer too and doesn't seem to connect to the shoulder), you also might want to erase that peek of his ear.
Good stuff though, looks really nice other than the small errors.
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>>7881760
Ooh thanks! That will help a lot. Never heard of the "searching line effect".
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>>7881763
Out of the top of my head Peter Han should mention this probably at the start of Dynamic Bible (the old version), should probably be in Vol. 2. Other authors mention this too but I forget who would other than Han.
It's a bit different than chicken scratching since it feels more like drawing a large line over and over again until you get something that feels right.
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>>7881765
Sorry, Vol. 1, not the second one.
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>>7881623
I'm assuming you painted some portions in greyscale with a soft brush, then converted to screentone?
If you want your image to look more like authentic manga, then don't do that. Use a full "sheet" of screentone, and carve it into the shape you want with a hard eraser or using the selection tool.
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Thread challenge
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First time trying this sort of trad painting style, kinda proud how it turned out
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>>7881585
>>7881584
Mr Brunet you're a real one. Thanks for the tips. Hopefully we'll get rid of the bad influence in this thread. Please keep doing god's work
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>>7881767
Thanks! I'll definitely keep this in mind and tell some of my friends who have a similar problem.
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>>7881780
she looks so uncomfortable
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What do you guys think about /dad/?
Is anyone here part of it and what is your experience with it? Would you recommend it?
I've been kind of curious about it, feel like I need some sort of kick in the backside like that to get my lazy ass to draw consistently erryday
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I found what got me to draw every single day is an A5 sized sketchbook. Perfect size to constantly have next to me. The effortless accessibility gets me moving every time I think of something silly to sketch
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>>7881574
WIP.
I should definitely stop copying shit and start drawing from imagination, it makes people think that I am way better than I am.
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im liking this drawing/painting a little and its making me feel unsure if i should continue it bc if i like something it usually means its pretty bad
should i continue with this? now that im nearing the end (only need to refine some things and do the chest/belly/face etc) idk if its a waste of time or not, it is a really experimental piece and i learnt a lot from it
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>>7881676
Added to the collection.
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>>7881685
Very comfy scene. I love this.
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Is constructionmaxxing the way?
I am sick of copying, it doesnt improve me even if I have gotten rather fast at shitting out copies and the "draw from imagination" meme does not work for me(I cannot focus on drawing while also focusing on keeping an image in my mind, it just doesnt work).
Is contruction all I have left?
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>>7881820
How do you shake off that urge to just rot in bed and doomscroll all day though
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>>7881697
>this one guy seemed to have figured it out.*
You never put your feet against your forearm? I discovered that they're equal when I was a child.
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>>7881846
Good:
Leave your room
Better:
Leave your home
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>>7881832
Completing a project is a skill itself, and if you're both having fun and learning, I don't see any reason to stop.
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>>7881843
Have a goal. Learn iterative drawing, and the process of memorizing body parts/muscles and its rotations.
First and foremost, you NEED to be able to copy with at least 80% accuracy before you can reliably "construct" things from memory, and you need to have at least a basic understanding of perspective. If you can't copy accurately you won't be able to grab images from your mind and place it on paper without it looking inaccurate in the first place. If you're already satisfied with the accuracy of your copies then move on to construction.
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loomis is a begtrap
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anime is a permabegtrap
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>>7881846
I have it with me in bed. I pretty much have it with me everywhere.

If the problem is social media for you though, I also use one of those apps that restricts my social media use to 30 minutes a day each. I can't speak for everybody's addictions, but that helped me tremendously, drawing aside
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>>7881510
thanks
>>>/b/945953170
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8S_mno1SCA&t=191s

REALLY good video
All begs should watch it
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tried doing a few rough idea sketches for shady merchant pimp guy
I think second from the top is promising for a more rat-like guy, while the one on the bottom has deep American South early postbellum vibe, and I'm not sure which would be more fitting
maybe I'll develop them a bit more and see which feels right


>>7881832
reminds me a bit of fear and hunger

>>7881855
>permabegtrap
me fr
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>>7881848
Heyy, thanks for the response, I'll see what I can do
>If the problem is social media for you though, I also use one of those apps that restricts my social media use to 30 minutes a day each
Actually this really sounds like something I could use, do you mind sharing the name?
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>>7881914
The one I use is called Screenzen.
Each of my infinitely scrollable apps gets 3 ten minute chunks a day, with a 10 minute cool down between, and a 60 second bootup time before they unlock. It's very customizable
I also keep everything scrollable off my home screen.

Results will vary depending on what kind of person you are. But this setup has pretty much kept me off of things like Twitter completely. I still let myself use 4chan but only for the generals I regularly have pinned.
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>>7881920
Thank you!
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>>7881925
No prob bob. Good luck
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Trying to do my undersketches with less lines is easy but doing it with thinner lines is definitely going to end me. fuck everything
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2026 is the year I'm escaping permabegdom I can feel it.
I actually didn't intend to finish it on valentines, but it fits
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>The Corporal is helping her stretch

Happy Friend's day
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>>7881856
KEk
Bretty hot
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>>7881943
>>7881944
This genuinely made me smile for some reason.
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>>7881932
Reze never loved Denji though the whole point was that she was baiting him like Makima and Himeno were. If anything Asa would be a better pick for a Valentines with Denji. Reze is also presumably dead after her encounter with Angel and Makima as well
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5 minutes character poses
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>>7881947
Lol that makes me happy to hear. They were children’s drawings so maybe that’s why

>>7881954
I like the style but these are very disproportionate bodies. Find a figure drawing artist to study from
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A cleaner sketch lets me focus more on lineweight. Huh.
>>7881958
>children's drawings
I'm wondering now if there is a way to capture that same sort of sense of joy as an adult, or are we all kinda FUBAR due to our life's experience.
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Rate my Loomis heads
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>>7881954
The one on the left is literally the drooling retard wojak with a hole in his head. Kek.
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>>7881971
5/10. Need more practice.
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>>7881971
Forgot pic.
Anyway, do non-/begs/ actually browse here?
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>>7881780
GREAT CHALLENGE! LOVED IT!
>>7880786
>Lmao. Is that me? Thank Peril
Yes that's you lol. Sorry I didn't see your reply.
>>7881522
This gotta be one of my favorite frogs from you!
>>7881245
This looks so cool...
>>7881282
Fukken SAVED! Insane piece of ass and lovely hairdo
>>7881587
Love your stuff
>>7881685
>>7881686
I love your scribbles keep posting them
>>7881856
Best in thread, go on please...
>>7881940
What's the corporal's name?
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>>7881974
I’m not a beginner and I browse all the time.
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>>7881974
Why would nonbegs browse the beg thread? I can imagine one dropping by from time to time out of boredom or amusement, as well as one who mistakenly thinks himself a beg, but otherwise there's no reason to waste time here.
I see this thread as a way to figure things out between begs/ints together, with occasional help from advs.
>rate my heads
The 3/4 one on top lacks the back part of his skull and therefore brain matter, but his face looks like a nigger's, so I guess it's anatomically accurate.
The front face on the right is asymmetrical, but then again many humans are such, and the position of the features / the proportions aren't wrong, so I guess it's passable.
The bottom one and the left one are pretty good.
I give a 6/10.
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>>7881974
Yeah. They give pretty solid advice too. I pretend I'm intermediate lol



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