I've been posting consistently for awhile without any growth so it looks like I got shadowbanned. What are ways artists can grow on X with musk's approval?
>>7928972Find and reach out to other artists that are active, do fanart if you have to
>current year>trying to start fresh on Xbotterit's over man
From what I've noticed you need people to retweet your shit. The only difference between one of my posts getting seen by thousands of people and getting me dozens of new followers and it being seen by 30 is whether a certain guy in Austria I'm more or less friends with and who for some reason has 10k followers was awake and saw it.Also Twatter is so full of bots I don't think you can even know how big you are not should your u care anyway, 80% of my followers are sketchy as fuck, like they haven't posted anything since 2018, keep retweeting camgirls and crypto shit, that kind of stuff. Maybe less so for older accounts, maybe it's because I draw porn sometimes and it attracts them, but still, Elon can eat my ass, I'm not paying for premium.
>>7928972its rough manbeen posting for a few months now and i get maybe 1 or 2 likes on a post if Iim luckyi think ill start replying to bigger posts more but ill never succumb to the humiliation ritual of asking for art friends or mutuals and posting under such beggars
>>7928972>been posting consistently for awhileunlike gallery site such as pixiv, social media doesn't have a centralized chronological feed for new artworks, so while consistent posting is good for maintaining existing audience, it might have limited impact on growth. Algorithm doesn't actually understand your content, it merely predict who might be interested based on how your account associate with other accounts. You must seek out and interact with profiles that produce similar content for your intended audience, mainly by association like following and retweeting.
>>7928972I grew from 0 to 1400 followers over the last year getting into drawing because I draw genshin stuff and I love that game.A big thing is you need a fandom to really catch attention, some kinda game or anime series that has a buncha fans that would appreciate seeing your ideas and takes with the characters of that world. People don't care too much about its quality, but about the idea. The appeal, the humor, does it make them laugh, theres alot that goes into people liking your work!
>complains about lack of engagement on socials>never posts their art95% of the time a lack of attention is because your art is bland, boring or amateurish. Another thing is time. Some artists have been on twitter a long time and some artists had big followings on other places and brought them to twitter (or whatever)But the main reason is your art doesn't stand out.
i dont care for twitter or billionaire tyrants so ive been trying to nurture a small following on bsky off of SFW only art, making an account in 2023 but only starting earnestly jan 2025. since then i have accumulated....... 200 followers. which i am grateful for, but that's not exactly impressive. an acquaintance of mine joined bsky and within three months rocketed up to 600 followers which astonished me, although they do draw loli on the razor thin edge of bsky moderation. i'm not really sure how to reach wider audiences or if i'm even at a skill level deserving of such. but it would be nice for the sake of opportunities and collaborations, both of which are really appealing ideas. i'm not really sure what to do though. not lolis lol
Let the algorithm learn who to push you. Make Pixiv and DeviantArt and use tags there to let your target audience find and pick you up. Then advertise your Twitter there. Now big group of people with similar interests start following you in Twitter and Twitter's algorithm learns that these kind of people like and follow you and the algorithm will start to push you to similar accounts.
>>7929110You need to go where people interested in art go. People go to Pixiv and DeviantArt to find art and artists that interest them. Twitter, BlueSky and Instagram are algorithm based social media where browsing art is not as big.If you dont know your demographics and how to market yourself, social media algorithm wont know either.
>>7929009"follow me and I'll follow back" mentality right?It's exhausting to go to the artist's "media" page and see a gorilion of the same memes and one art
I have 40k followers on X and each art I made barely made it past 200 likes. Turns out I got shadowbanned and deboosted because I post my anime tiddies arts. I hate X so much but that's where my community is.
if i wanted to make money with my art that badly i'd just skip the social media trap
>>7929160did you check it? there is sites that allow you to check
>>7929162Not yet but I already got email notifications that my contents are restricted and swept from others For You page like wtf
>>7929160>I post my anime tiddies arts. I hate X so much but that's where my community is.I'm pretty sure Twitter is not the only place to post anime tiddies art. You do realize lot of Twitter users use it with their real life identity with their friends, family and associates there. Do you think they are comfortable letting them see what they wank to? So why not post to other sites too? Ones that are not usually linked to their real life associates?
>>7929187Because I grow my audience base there from zero and starting over at another platform is not doing anything. Besides, a lot of artists there on X posts anime tiddies and they rack up a lot as well.
>>7929196There are artists and viewers who use Pixiv, but not Deviant Art or Twitter. There are artists and viewers who use DeviantArt but not Pixiv or Twitter. There are artists and viewers who use Twitter but not Pixiv and Deviant Art.Do you see the advantage of using all 3? When you start whining that Twitter is limiting your reach, what do you do next? Cast a wider net? Whine more and hope things will magically fix themselves?
>>7929187>>7929201Big mental problem with artists sticking with 1 site is that they think if they post to more than 1 site, the time they need to work on their art and posting multiplies when in reality you only need to draw the pic once and simply post it to multiple sites, adding maybe 2-4 minutes more compared to posting to just 1 site. But some drawfags multiply the drawing time too for some reason.
>>7929201>>7929202Honestly yeah that's issue on my part thinking that I should rely solely on twitter. I have pixiv and DeviantArt but rarely use them. I should dust off my accounts there then.
>>7929208Aight, use tags. In Pixiv you have 10 tags to use per work so make them count for max reach. If you search the tag in English, the site offers you the japanese tag too so check which one is more popular and use the more popular or both.DeviantArt lets you use more tags so go nuts. Use all tags that apply.
>>7929209Got it. I'll keep that in mind.
>>7929156>"follow me and I'll follow back" mentality right?While I do appreciate the occasional follow back, that's -never- the expectation.I follow people because I like their art and wanted to keep track of it, and I do it willy-nilly. Although if they don't post their own drawing very often I won't follow and I'll just book mark ones I like as example for reference and inspiration purposes.
>>7929117surely devart is a dead end these days? i havent had one since 07. never tried pixiv though. and ive uploaded a view things to newgrounds but im not sure about it...
>>7929263Never talk about things you don't know about. When people find site that gives what they want, they don't drop it as long as it keeps supplying them. DA brings me most comms and subscribers.
>>7929271well, i'll keep it in mind. for now i'll give pixiv a shot
>>7929263NewGrounds has fraction of userbase Pixiv and DeviantArt has. You want to go where people already are and not make them jump through hoops to find you. You can post to multiple sites. My sites are DA, Pixiv, Twitter, Instagram, NewGrounds and Tumblr and that's also the order from most active to least active.No one cares about your personal preferences or mental imagery or presumptions. Numbers don't lie.
WAKE UP BROS A NEW FOTM JUST DROPPED
>fotm is anime girl head ahegaoing in the void at the liquid cancerAnon, just do fucking porn like a normal person.
https://youtu.be/mu-semky9Ls
>>7929160>>7929187I would say use insta, but it's unironically a shithole now. static post don't work well and removing the recent tab on hashtags killed any chance for new accounts to grow unless you plan on spending any money, you need to make shorts now. Deviant art is worse off than insta, mainly because the higher ups hanged themselves while shooting themselves in the balls like the art station did, by dick sucking gen sloppa. newgrounds is filled with preteens now because of THAT game and you have to be there from the start to get any form of traction. I don't even need to mention on why plebbit fucking sucks. Pixiv would seem like a decent option if it weren't for the fact that you need to draw anime specifically and you would have to censor your artwork because of the jap rules/laws. Tumblr is okish now, but it's almost as bad as new grounds in terms of engagement though. zoomietok is super easy to get any engagment, followers, etc, but the major down side is that site is full of mostly pre-teens, so don't expect any money from that. Other sites are dead or forgotten already, so don't bother with those. Your 3 best options would be twatter, insta, and maybe tumblr or newgrounds, you really don't have much options just posting static images, but if you're any animator, then everywhere. Being an animator and a decent one at that is basically cheat/easy-mode, but the downside is that shit if fucking hard and takes a fuck load of time.
>>7929222why don't you just put them on a list? xitter has that feature where you can put specific accounts in a list, where you see only those accounts post,retweets,etc?
hentai-foundry.comIf you're seeking an anime tiddy cumminity shouldn't you go where your audience will most likely be looking for adult artwork, where you can also tag your work appropriately?Normie social media is just big numbers without any real substance
>>7928972pywWhat's the quality of your work that's being posted what's the topic?How are we supposed to help without any details. All you'll get is generic advice which will lead you down an aimless rabbithole
>>7929752>Normie social media is just big numbers without any real substance
>>7929771https://graphtreon.com/patreon-creators/drawing-paintinghttps://graphtreon.com/patreon-creators/adult-animationhttps://graphtreon.com/patreon-creators/comics
>>7929779>futanari>20k paid members
>>7929771Ok, if it's so easy why are you in a thread complaining about not doing the 1%?Just start an onlyfags broYou will totally be rich and famous instantlylol
I've come to the conclusion that I have zero clue what people want to see from me. I pour everything into a drawing, tinker with it for many days, revising over extended periods, by all my standards it looks great, then basically nobody interacts with it. Then I'll look at a commission I did, think it looks like dogshit with mistakes that I don't feel like fixing, hesitantly post it because I haven't been posting much, and it will take off like wildfire. I honestly just have no fucking clue.
>>7929932do you art have "mass appeal"?porn, animation, comic art, create some nice looking characters and ship them together, quirk chungus romance where people don't fully know how to approach thanks to each other uniquines >werewolf x vampire
>>7929849so what you're saying is that you're a bitch and you and want to give up easily? You just want everything to be spoonfed to you, retard.
>>7930047Yeah anon, just kill yourself at this pointjfc the absolute mental illness
>>7929740because "following" feed already do that, I want my retweet and likes to affect my "for you" feeds so I can discovery more similar stuff, and I want my followers to see them too
>>7929984Mostly cheesecake and porn, but even among the same type of art the difference in reception is so drastic and so often at odds with my own assessment of quality that it leaves me pretty bewildered. It's almost reached a point where I feel like the worse I think the drawing is, the more people like it. And this isn't just content, but the actual quality of the art. It really reinforces my belief that "appeal" is really an intangible thing that you either have a knack for finding or you don't, and no amount of technical ability or accuracy can make up for it.
>how do I get more popular?>and no, don't say "draw better" give me a real answerYou need to draw in specific fandoms and use tags, at the very least the title of the game/anime.
>>7930244People are more interested in subjects they have personal attachment than just technical ability. Like for example the Little Nuns artist Diva. I'm not saying their technical ability is greatest of all time, but they post daily interesting picture of cute girls doing funny stuff and there's a lot going in the pictures that make them intersting to scan through to see all the fun details. They definitely have appeal and it's easy to understand why they have large following.One of my most liked pic is very rough sketchy doodle with a concept that covers multiple sub-niches of my regular big umbrella subject and it had 2 very iconic characters from 2 different franchises acting it out. I doodled it just for fun and thought it would be just fun little post but it skyrocketed because it had appeal and the appeal covered not only my usual stuff, but also stuff that went together with it and if you were fan of the characters, even if you werent' my usual targeted audience, you'd still get something out of it.
>>7930244appeal is pretty much "soul vs soulless" but for a consumer mindset, because most people can't grasp the intricacies of the art piece like other artists do and is one the reasons that video essays that destill the essence of their favorite show get alot of views, so you kinda need to "Keep it Simple, Stupid" or have a art pieace so unique ta people stop to see it
