Is becoming a social media artist worth it in the long run?Has anyone here ever gotten big from it?
>>7931644Don't become a coom artist. It will unironically rot your brain
Become a NSFW artist and ignore religitards who think something humans have been doing for millenia is somehow detrimental to you. You'll make good money
>>7931652Not religious at all, just warning OP about what tends to happen with porn artists.
>>7931655NSFW artists tend to be mentally ill before they ever got into art, drawing porn doesn't somehow make you insane
>>7931644Didn't this artist literally troon out after getting a fat onlyfans girlfriend?
>>7931656I wouldn't say so, people who do drugs become insane from them and it's the same for porn. It fucks with your brain.
>>7931655also why is this faggot complaining, he literally gets to post porn, collect money and fuck off, how can he get "harassed" in the first place
>>7931660He was upset because people were laughing at his cringe attempts at being "deep"
>>7931658People who do drugs are already retarded to begin with
>>7931664Before and after can go into massive extremes when it comes to functioning, though. Stupid yeah but a junkie years into his addiction could kill you, something the same person wouldn't do before the drugs
>>7931663How in gods name does this faggot have a million followers?
>>7931644It has its ups and downsGood>it's money in your pocket>it gets you real work after like 5-10 years of doing it because many people with hiring power are secretly coomers>You will get abnormally good at draftsmanship and figure, both of which help with all your other future work>That Titanic scene has ensured a generation of IRL women want to be drawn naked flatteringly, so if you're good, "I can draw you like one of my French girls" WILL get you laid.>It pays well and for substantially lower quality work>If you know coomers in your life, NSFW work can function as a substitute for currency>It's just a really fun thing to draw>People kinda just assume all artists are horny goons anyway, so you're not actually taking that much of a reputation hit by getting paid for the stigmaBad>Long term partners don't like finding out about it unless you're extremely up front about it>Significant chance a major AI company's image generation "no safety filter" weights leak and totally nuke the NSFW space within 5 years>If you make a job out of something you like doing (drawing naked women), it will eventually become a drudgery for you>Your fans are unhinged and generally the most degenerate, worst customer service customers in all of customer service>You are guaranteed going to get doxxed and your public NSFW work will be linked to your real name eventually, so if you plan to work a job where respectability matters, you will fail the background check.>Basically every payment platform perma-hates you once you start, and if you ever want to do non-NSFW business in the future, your negative history with them will follow you>If you go pro with it, it's really hard to get back into the normal working world because it's really hard to explain the resume gapPossible useful test would be>assume 30 dick pics and 5 sex tapes of you personally leaked. Are you fucked?If your life would be derailed or fucked don't do NSFW, it's about this negatively impactful.
>>7931676I assumed you meant a social media PORN artist btw. If you mean some other kind, you will find there are basically only three viable kinds these days>porn>storytime animation vlogger if you're a woman>fan artist (who if DMed does porn)Pretty much everything else is a wasteland unless you're 0.01% good, and if you are, you probably correctly feel>why tf would I need social media, I'm too busy with all the work I get.
>>7931663The giant foot really sells this
I draw NSFW because it's fun.I don't earn money from it anymore. >>7931644>>7931663These guys are on Crack. They must have alot of free time.
>>7931655>>7931663I still dont get how this guy is so popular, his art is not even that good and its absolutely not creative or funny in any way. All his drawings are just studies of bit boobs and naked chicks.
>>7931866Coomer audience
Trend chasing without direction, just drawing whatever is (currently) popular? No.Being part of a fandom while still doing your own things, becoming "that" artist? Yes.
>>7931866he's an amazing animator
>>7931866THE JOKE IS PORN AHAHAHAHA DO YOU GET IT? SEX!!! PORN!!!!!!!!!!! BOOBIES!!!!!!!
>>7932110I get it, but what's so deep and meaningful about it
>>7932174Sex is why you're here talking to us asking what's so meaningful about sex.
>>7932174To answer that question, please consult the diagram
>>7931866The bar in animation is lower as anyone with actual talent at it and who puts the work in gets snapped up to do it professionally, and then doesn't wanna do it at home because as a space it's an all-consuming monster that eats your personal life and will to draw.Anyone who either is immune to this fact or is outside the industry but can nevertheless animate will pretty quickly get a following if their work isn't shit and has any inherent virality; boobs have both.
>>7931644The latinx nigga you posted trooned out soon after making it big and now posts porn of xer tiny girlcock and pierced hrtitties on xer alt. This could happen to any one of you niggas so you decide if it's worth it.
>>7931644>durr do ppl get famous on here>posts pantsu ripperjust say you've been here for over a decade and still havent made it
>>7932291I'm too old to transition, so I'm immune. Can I still make it?
>>7931663oh yeah i remember that threadit was fun
>>7932587Can you link it? I haven't seen it, if you can't find it, when was it made?
>>7932571Back in my day being trans just meant you put on girly things when alone in your room, not cutting your genitals up and demanding the right to use the women's locker room. You damn kids with your HRTs and your webcomics and your puberty blockers and your cartoons and your fursonas and your anime OCs and your court-mandated gender reassignment surgeries.
>>7931644Social media artists are literally just big fishes in small ponds
There's a reason almost none of the Tijuana Bible authors are known.
>>7931644Pantsu ripper used to make good art. Then he turned into a girl. I'll remain high/beg and keep my dick.
>>7933187>Then he turned into a girl.pas possible
>>7931644yeah if it's 20 years agonow it seems so oversaturated it's insane. i can just go to twitter and scroll through my recomendations and get fed with never ending stream of artslop
>>7931866He had one really really really good year before his moral grandstanding arc began.
>>7931644>a social media artistDo you mean an artist who uses social media, or a click farmer? Do the former if you want to I guess, but the latter I wouldnt do unless you just want to use art as a grift [spoiler](dont do that, its a bad idea)[/spoiler]
>>7931671Posted an one animation per day for a year. It's impressive.
>>7931676>>You are guaranteed going to get doxxed and your public NSFW work will be linked to your real name eventually, so if you plan to work a job where respectability matters, you will fail the background check.How though? I get that might happen if you're doing paypaly stuff but what if it's just patreon?Also how does a random fuckass business even check out that you did nsfw work? It's not like past violations and whatnot in a government database.
>>7934359>f but what if it's just patreon?You're good if it's on patreon though. bank statements will only show patreon for both you and the subber. Other platforms though, names will be shown, even ko-fi shows the legal name.
>>7934449You're good short term, you're not good long term>>7934359Your customers are John Wick autists for>I recognize this pattern of brushstrokes from your other work, your writing style, your regional dialect, the average heatmap center of IP addresses you post from or communicate from wherever visible, checked the average time of day you post, I've analyzed every piece of metadata of everything you've ever done anywhere on the internet, I've cross-checked against every artist on linkedin or artstation and any bit of personal info you've ever released that's even CONCEIVABLY about you, I've attempted password resets on every account you control and logged into any account with a publicly leaked password you have to mine info, I've called customer support at your web provider, and webhost, and patreon, and paypal and the service rep let slip too much info, I literally work at one or both or in an intelligence agency and performed an illegal data request in order to pull information regarding-And so on. People are weirdos, and porn weirdos are the weirdest weirdos. Do your best, obviously, but go in knowing>yeah I'm getting doxxed someday if I draw porn, it is what it isyou'll be a lot happier when-not-if it happens.
>>7934455Why are they like this? What's the point of doxing someone that draws porn?
>>7934757At this point it's a question of philosophy, but spitballing, it's two things.First is that every commission requester is a weirdo. A 1SD normie (covers 2/3rds of people) just goes on pornhub and clicks stuff on the homepage.a 2SD anon (95%) has search terms for what they're specifically looking for.a 3SD degen (99.7%) has multiple search terms, keyword and time filters, and is paying for subscription content.a 4SD degen (99.99%) is purchasing the commission of novel pornography.So every single commissioner is pretty much by definition at least a 4SD degen. Second is harder to quantify so I'll write a bit freely: you're in the porn and YOU are the porn. When you draw porn, the idea of who YOU are is part of the porn, for them, because they're a participant in the dance between you two, that ends with porn existing in the world. Part of what they're getting off on is the Promethean energy of making porn exist that others like them enjoy, and to feel they are a master of said process, and a huge part of that is that THEY MADE YOU make porn, they turned money into porn in the world. Especially if you are a woman (and them not knowing makes it even hotter, because they know a woman might lie she was a man), the idea that you might be aroused or disgusted by the things you're drawing is itself part of what makes it hot for them, they're getting off on your mind-state, or even the revulsion of finding out you could actually be a man like you say. So they feel embedded in a mystery, which they build it up in their minds: the more they interact with you, the more they want to know who their dance partner is, and the more it drives them mad. Most commissioners have money, and someone with means in this crazy-making state who DESPERATELY wants to know "WHO AM I MAKING PORN WITH?" can and will go to extreme ends to find out, and they're already an extreme person.Idk. Maybe all that's bullshit, but end result's the same, people that draw porn get doxxed.
>>7934791Interesting. Seems plausible to me.
>>7931655This guy has always been mentally ill>>7932085he's mediocre animator, if you want to see actually good nsfw animators look at tabuley, jjrenchie, suoiresnu, or a dozen more I can't remember the name of >>7934320posting mediocre slop every day is not impressive >>7933187sexo
>>7934970>posting mediocre slop every day is not impressiveFucking do it yourself if you're so great
>>7934791It's important to also keep in mind that if you're fandom specific your chances of getting doxxed increase tenfold. If you stick around drawing porn of characters that were not already made for something sexual, some deranged purity crusader is going to come for you sooner or later. Though this also applies to sfw social media art, you're a little less likely to become a victim of an ape attack that way. I'm a xitter artist and most of what I draw is from a very niche webseries and almost every other artist in the fandom has been doxxed and ran off over retarded drama to the point there's hardly any artists left.
>>7931866because the people... are retarded.
>>7934791I can somewhat get behind that idea. But... You've completely underestimated my audience being broke ass losers.Nobody buys my artwork or commissions me.
>>7931644Eh it's fine if you're not a schizo. If anything, focusing on it a little too much can cause stagnation, but overall that's the only real issue I'd see, then again I'm a NSFW artist and I don't have to deal with much.
>>7931655Telipurte never even got into nsfw properly. He just did safe edging shit. Even echhi is more riske than what he did I don't know why he made such a big deal randomly out of nowhere and nuked his rep
>>7932291>soonThat nigga has been posting nsfw and has been big for years. The only thing new about him is the account he posts on
My fav artists have commented and liked my stuff so I made it
>>7931644I've been thinking about becoming a social media artist but the only (easy) option out there are either becoming nsfw or fanart artist, both requires you to communicate with people and keep up with trend, bonus point if you can somehow becomes 'entertaining' to them like kyle. Nsfw is where you can get easy followers, but then your account is going to be dirty - people will associate your name with nsfw stuff, there's no room for improvisation for yourself unless you want to resort to some niche /d/ tier fetish and entertain your own people. I mean, eventually people will get tired of seeing the newest fotm character dressed up in lingerie or drawn in a mombod in some seductive pose for god knows how many times, if you get what i'm saying.As for fanart, mainly gacha like genshin these days. You need to get into fandom, you need to know what's the newest character on the block, what's the newest ship that people (faggot, troons, and women) like, and keep drawing someone elses character in some random scenario. The catch is that you either have to be extremely good at drawing that people will follow you themselves or you draw some /beg/ tier art and have a good communication with that fandom to ensure constant engagement and interaction. Obviously there will be drama, lots of drama, but if youre an imageboard dweller I'm pretty sure you can tiptoe-ing your way around it.Anyway, since i'm not a people pleaser I decided to not becoming a social media artist and stick to 4cuck and dump my stuff here, but hey, maybe you or anyone itt will do it and took a thing or two out of my advice
>>7933187>I'll remain high/beg and keep my dick.they still have a dick and they still make good art, what a cope
>>7941027Bussy! I'd rather fuck girls with my big dick.
>>7941083nobody asked but thanks for clarifying you don't like dicks, not suspicious at all.
>>7932291More like he got a hooker gf after making it big who did the Lisa Strix treatment on him.
>>7941027Waiting for you to post one.
>>7941210let's see your work too so we know how much of a seething jealous faggot you are
>>7933187I was mutuals with Pantsu once upon a time, I really liked they style of their art it was nostalgic.Then I kept seeing pictures of your ass and I unfollowed. Why do the artist I like always start poppin their bussy for the people? I followed for art!
>>7933187hhoott or not
>>7941221>OMG... IS THAT MY.... MY.... MY FAVORITE JAPANESE CHARACTER WITH SEX APPEAL!!!!! SO PEAK!!!! PEAK!!!!!!!!!! Still waiting.
>>7941292>crabbing this hardjust say you don't like them, but if you want to say their art is bad you should show your own to establish some credibility then explain what is so terrible beyond that you don't like anime or pronouns
>>7931663>like if u agree
>>7941184>Lisa StrixI am too retarded to know what this is about.Mind explaining?
>>7933187Did he actually cut his weiner off?
>>7942651probably for the art gains.
>>7931644>must draw popular/new character for attentionThis is demoralizing.
>>7942651Nah he's just tucking, men can give themselves the illusion of a cameltoe by pushing there balls back up into there bodies and pulling the penis backwards over it and using body tape to hold it all in place. >t. was friends with 2 drag queens
>>7942797Now that you mention it yeah i can see it but some folds looked too much like a clit or labia that i was puzzled as to where the fuck could this guy get fucking vaginoplastia on fucking mexico and recover that quickly.Either way its weird to see someone from here to make it that big and go in all sorts of tangents.
>>7939560>a very niche webseries Oh do tell...
>>7931644genzoman has been going at it for 2 decades and he's still strong. It's better to network and not fully depend on the algo of one or two social media only, tho
>>7939560This is true if you’re in foid, zoomer, and troon majority fandoms. The likelihood that you’ll attract a deranged BPD’s attention are higher in Deltarune than Star Trek.Know what IPs to avoid and you’ll be fine.
>>7943062Is this even english anymore?
>>7931663didn't he also get a girlfriend with an onlyfans
>>7934791good post>>7939560good post alsoon the other hand; you shouldn't post porn of a thing in communities that are not about the porn.It's like you deliberately covered yourself in meat, walk into a lion's cage and then expect them not to eat you alive.>>7943062>Know what IPs to avoidIt's all of them now.If you're not some variation of a brainrotten sexually indoctrinated tik tok doomscrolling trooner foider fujo yuriyaoi shipping turbo autistic level 4 drama casting hrtshaman, you cannot do anything anywhere.And those fandoms who maybe aren't infested on the surface; it's just a matter of time.
>>7931644Coom artist here. You need a lot of patience and persistence. First three years I was barely making anything, but if you learn how to actually use social media efficiently, find your niche art and your target audience that's willing to pay for the niche shit you draw, and learn what people actually want to see, then you'll make it. Also, never take art/social media advice from begs here. This is why this place isn't a good place for artists to grow. People need to ask question to actual successful artists. This place is only good for playful banter and interacting with other begs
>>7944071are sfw artist doomed
>>7944073Not doomed. If you consistently draw things people want to see and keep exploring that direction, you’re fine. But with SFW work, your creativity and ideas get tested a lot more. The same applies to NSFW, but since sex sells, it’s often easier to come up with topics and get attention.One good example of a successful SFW artist that I know who really knows his target audience is falseknees. He focuses on drawing birds and creates art for his bird loving audience. This artist also makes merch of birds and comics. He’s been doing that for a while, building his audience with persistence.
>>7944073sfw requires a lot more work, investment, and creativity in order for it to pay off. just as >>7944081 said. Just have realistic expectations.
>>7944081>>7944146fuck you..
>>7944071>>7944081Im a nsfw artist and I doubt this, especially the Attached image. This feels like a fake meme just to swing your big dick around. Because I've seen it before.I always ask myself. "Why would I ever subscribe to anyone's patreon if i can just get it for free"I highly doubt that casuals are this retarded that they can't just use a mouse and keyboard to search your name on Google.I've tried to engage with my patrons/audience. They just come for a quick fap and nothing more. There's so much free porn, you'd have to be an idiot to pay. You're audience are not browsing twitter because it's such a fun website and they're supporting. No. They just want free porn. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the competition and drama. I'd go play a video game and enjoy my time.
>>7944178>always ask myself. "Why would I ever subscribe to anyone's patreon if i can just get it for free"nta, but people sub to support the artist they like and because they like their style, also they don't/can't draw. The same can be said for fucking anything. Why spend money on games when you can pirate and the vast amount of free games online exist? Why spend money on restaurants and groceries when you can grow your own food and make it at home? You're thinking too much like a producer and not a consumer, anon. fix that
>>7944178By swinging my huge dick, now everyone here knows I actually know what I'm talking about.You're free to assume it's fake if you want. This board needs advice from people who knows what they're talking about / are actually paying their bills with art. Begs shouldn't be listening to beg adviceMost of my Patreon subs pay because they want the earliest access and they want to support me. They know they *could* wait for the leaks, but it takes time for that shit to get uploaded and they don't want to wait. Engaging with your audience is hard, I get you. But you just have to keep doing it
>>7944202Fair point.>>7944186>why buy games and food.because it's more convenient + time... I buy physical games like grandtheftauto half price.Free games is a whole other rabbit hole.
>>7944202what's the best way to do tiers and engaging with your audience? atm im moving risque art onto a freetier since insta and twitter is killing my engagement... then i put like tits out edits for 10$ and wips for 5 and 10... but i don't really know how to market it. i have like 10k on insta and 4k on twitter just drawing my oc...
>>7931866You had to be there for his daily animations during covid to get it
